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The return of the policing thread (All police news, all the time)

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Return my flashlight super politely? Get on the ground

    Leave the area when I tell you to leave the area? Fuck that down on the ground by your hair

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Did that guy seriously just roll up to a pool party and start arresting people?

    He was so fucking excited to do so he either tripped over a tree root, or did some sort of combat roll maneuver he saw on TV.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular


    Dear racist geese:

    Would you kindly go fuck yourselves.

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    Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Some people did some homework on that very cop and found his YouTube profile (the username matched the cop's LinkedIn profile username) where he has a playlist that includes both this video oh himself that he has ostensibly watched along with some videos with such lovely titles as “Man Attacks Baltimore Police Officer,” “Man Sucker-Punches Cop Gets Kicked in the Face,” and “Chief tells the TRUTH that Black People don’t want to hear.”

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    Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Apparently a Texas police department (McKinney) got a report there were a lot of black children at a pool party, meaning a bunch of weeping kids had to be wrestled to the ground. Luckily there were private citizens with video recorders to keep people safe.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bpWP8aMcOo8

    This isn't out of the ordinary.

    A cop pulling and aiming his gun at some youths and being stopped from shooting them by his fellow officers isn't out of the ordinary? :x

    My biggest thought after watching that vid was thank God those other cops were there.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    What did the other cops do?

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    Baron Of HellBaron Of Hell Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    What did the other cops do?

    When he pulls out his gun two other cops physically stop him by grabbing him and lowering his arm.

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    Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    Maybe those are the cops the sign is thanking for keeping them safe.

    (in a "keep hope for humanity" interpretation)

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    What did the other cops do?

    When he pulls out his gun two other cops physically stop him by grabbing him and lowering his arm.

    That didn't happen at all. They just ran over to ask what happened and they run after the people he pointed his gun at.

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Kalief Browder, held on Riker's Island without charges for 3 years, has taken his own life.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    Here's the thing - if you're using the color of the crowd's skin to determine if they belong, you're doing it wrong and racist.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.
    * This is a routine occurrence.

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.

    * This is a routine occurrence.

    The first one, the police were called by pool security who said a large crowd of people were there without permission. The police then got called by a number of people who reported fighting. Do you have some video or audio to back up that second part?

    EDIT: I think the police responded badly but it is possible for both parties to be in the wrong.

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    There is some sort of assumption going on here that the local residents and security had no reason to call the police, other than skin color.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.

    * This is a routine occurrence.

    The first one, the police were called by pool security who said a large crowd of people were there without permission. The police then got called by a number of people who reported fighting. Do you have some video or audio to back up that second part?

    EDIT: I think the police responded badly but it is possible for both parties to be in the wrong.

    Yes. I also didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, and realize that in these sorts of communities, people lie about fighting and permission being granted with regards to minorities. Quite often.

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    GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Did that guy seriously just roll up to a pool party and start arresting people?

    Well in the police officers defense. They were called ostensibly about trespassing. Which was probably bullshit but they didn't know.

    In their prosecution they were called about "trespassing" in a community pool and suspiciously only arrested and threatened the black kids* in the group.

    *its exceedingly clear that the people who called wanted them to do just that.

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    zakkielzakkiel Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    What did the other cops do?

    When he pulls out his gun two other cops physically stop him by grabbing him and lowering his arm.

    That didn't happen at all. They just ran over to ask what happened and they run after the people he pointed his gun at.

    It's ambiguous. At least one of them grabbed his arm.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I'm seeing this all over Facebook this morning, re: the McKinney situation
    Fred Harvey Michael Cory Quattrin
    Facebook friends and family – PLEASE HELP! That (now viral) video of the officer in McKinney subduing a girl in a bathing suit was in OUR neighborhood. The situation was NOT what is being reported…
    A DJ setup in a public space next to the private pool in our neighborhood on Friday and played loud explicit (F-bomb) music for multiple hours (it is unclear if he was invited by a resident as no one has claimed responsibility). The teenagers (both black and white) were being brought into our neighborhood by the carload because the DJ was tweeting out invites to a “pool party” for $15 (obviously unauthorized by our neighborhood). The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene. Some residents who live around the park/pool area tried to come out and settle things down. The teens started yelling racial slurs at our neighbors and started assaulting people and property (throwing bottles at cars and attacking a mother at the pool with 3 young children). The first officer on the scene was by himself. At that time, the party had grown to a large, aggressive crowd. As the officer arrived, many teens started running through our neighborhood. Many of the teens were being very aggressive and yelling at the officers as more arrived.
    This was a very dangerous situation for the officers AND the teens/residents not involved. The news media has refused to hear the neighborhood’s side of this story. The video being distributed is only a very small segment of what happened. This information being distributed by the media and others is extremely distorted and in some cases outright lies.
    PLEASE HELP US STOP THE BROADCASTING OF THIS IGNORANCE. The media is trying to make it look like our neighborhood is a white’s only, racist area. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright LIE.
    The unfortunate result is that our neighbors are now being threatened. We have also had cars and property in and around the park area vandalized this weekend. Unfortunately, the press and social media are trying to enflame the situation.
    I am asking for your help for my family and my neighbor’s safety…PLEASE, PLEASE do not rebroadcast any of these lies.'

    I don't think the media is trying to make it look like the entire area is racist and whites only. I think they are trying to say that the cop in question potentially acted with a racial bias. Which is really different.

    I'm not seeing anybody reporting on assaults or property damage, which is really weird! You'd think that if that stuff was really going on, the chief of police or somebody would have said something about it, instead of saying that the actions of his officer raised concerns and relieving the officer of duty.

    Anyway, I'm really sort of hesitant (to say the least) to take the word of a lone person, reposted throughout Facebook, as gospel. Especially when I can see a cop slamming a hysterical, unarmed woman to the ground with my own eyes.

    Even if all that stuff in the repost was true, it doesn't justify this guy's behavior. People will sometimes latch onto anything if they think it means they don't have to change their views on an issue, and that's what I'm seeing with this one person's post which isn't corroborated by any media reports or the cops themselves, yet is being spread all over the internet because THE MEDIA LIES, TRUST ME NOT THE MEDIA.

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    zakkielzakkiel Registered User regular
    Also, OMG that combat roll. Can we talk about that? Nothing says badass like an impromptu combat roll! Then he sprints at top speed to the pool party and starts whaling on teenagers for making him run around in the hot sun. This man is a god among police.

    I hope his supervisors had the presence of mind to drug test him after seeing this video.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    zakkiel wrote: »
    Also, OMG that combat roll. Can we talk about that? Nothing says badass like an impromptu combat roll! Then he sprints at top speed to the pool party and starts whaling on teenagers for making him run around in the hot sun. This man is a god among police.

    I hope his supervisors had the presence of mind to drug test him after seeing this video.

    You don't actually see the moment he starts his roll on camera, to me it looked more like he tripped. There were a lot of tree roots and such where he was running.

    Cog on
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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Looks like white people started a fight and then called the cops, who only went after people of color.
    Neighbors are defending police who chased black teenagers at gunpoint and tackled a girl wearing a bikini after breaking up a party at a community pool over the weekend in McKinney, Texas.

    But one homeowner and her daughter say those neighbors confronted some teens when they went outside and began taunting them and their guests with racial slurs before starting a fight.

    Tatiana Rose, who lives in the Craig Ranch neighborhood and hosted the party with her siblings, said a woman and man who live in the neighborhood showed up and called their friends “black f*ckers” and told them to return to their Section 8 housing.

    The 19-year-old Rose said most of her friends who attended the party live in Craig Ranch — which sits along a golf course.

    Rose said one of her younger brother’s friends — a white girl named Grace Stone — scolded the neighbors and told them it wasn’t right to use racial slurs.

    “So then they started verbally abusing her, saying that she needs to do better for herself, cursing at her, and I’m saying, no that’s wrong – she’s 14, you should not say things like that to a 14-year-old,” Rose said.

    She said the woman, who she identified as Kate, told her to go back to her government-assisted housing and smacked her in the face when she stuck up for the younger girl, and she said another woman also attacked her.

    They called police, and white partygoers said the officers ignored them and chased, tackled, and pointed guns at black, Hispanic, or Arabic teens.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2015
    I'm also a little weirded out by the inclusion of information that they were playing music with swear words in it. Is this what we've come to? It's okay for the cops to hurt people in order to protect little ears?

    How about we use the opportunity to teach kids about what's okay and what's not okay, disperse people in a way that deescalates the situation instead of escalating it, and not getting so butthurt about some goddamn cuss words?

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    It's a transparent attempt at character assassination. The content of music is basically never legally actionable.

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    knight11eknight11e Registered User regular
    Not that this needs to be said, but don't read the Yahoo comments section about the McKinney thing. I died a little (lot) on the inside.

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    NinjeffNinjeff Registered User regular
    I have a feeling neither the media, nor the facebook post above tell the whole story.
    I THINK the pool party was probably getting loud and out of hand, police were called to disperse the situation, and the one office got decidedly out of hand with it. Like he was trying to control the LA riots or something.
    The one officer seemed like he might have been ok, then Sgt Powerglove comes busting in there and the whole thing quickly spiraled into the abyss of idiocy.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I really don't think there's any context that could make that guy's actions heroic or even okay. I mean unless that lady he slammed to the ground was actually Ra's al Ghul in a clever disguise.

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    NinjeffNinjeff Registered User regular
    I really don't think there's any context that could make that guy's actions heroic or even okay. I mean unless that lady he slammed to the ground was actually Ra's al Ghul in a clever disguise.

    lol.
    Right, thats what i'm saying. I only got to watch part of the vid, but it looked like the one officer was trying to just "keep the peace" and handle it clamly and then the other officer just comes barreling in all cock hard and power strong.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Raise your hand if you are from the South!

    If you are, then you know exactly what went down. Too many black kids showed up at a "white" community pool, and the residents freaked the fuck out. They may have had passes. They may have been invited. They may even have just crashed their white schoolmates pool party.

    I'm sure the neighbors were disturbed by the rap music. There may even have been a fight. But the reason why the police were called and neighbors were out in force confronting the teens is 100 percent that the people in that neighborhood had no intention of letting their community pool become a welcoming place for black people, and the local law enforcement saw it as part of their duty to enforce that desire. Visions of declining property values were dancing in their heads.

    Could be worse. There was a public pier at a local lake near where I grew up where black people could go. One night, some concerned residents doused the pier with gasoline and threw a bunch of broken glass on the shore. Problem solved!

    You really don't have to give residents the benefit of the doubt on this shit. It's just as bad as you think it is, because that's the way things work down here.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Until I see convincing corroboration as to the otherwise, I'm going to trust the original narrative of this story, which is that of a violent racist asshole cop being a violent racist asshole to a bunch of teenagers.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    And because today would be such a drag without yet another video out of tx.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamMIKpW_NY

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Until I see convincing corroboration as to the otherwise, I'm going to trust the original narrative of this story, which is that of a violent racist asshole cop being a violent racist asshole to a bunch of teenagers.

    I do think its just as important to note the housewives that were out in force striking and yelling at the teenagers. That's not the behavior of a resident concerned for public safety. That's the behavior of a tribe enforcing its boundaries.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    And because today would be such a drag without yet another video out of tx.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamMIKpW_NY

    Hey I'm just gonna steal your phone real quick and then pepper spray the fuck out of your face.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    And because today would be such a drag without yet another video out of tx.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamMIKpW_NY

    Hey I'm just gonna steal your phone real quick and then pepper spray the fuck out of your face.

    We cool, though, right?

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.

    * This is a routine occurrence.

    The first one, the police were called by pool security who said a large crowd of people were there without permission. The police then got called by a number of people who reported fighting. Do you have some video or audio to back up that second part?

    EDIT: I think the police responded badly but it is possible for both parties to be in the wrong.

    Yes. I also didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, and realize that in these sorts of communities, people lie about fighting and permission being granted with regards to minorities. Quite often.

    I get it, because of the color of their skin and where they live you decided you know what really happend.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.

    * This is a routine occurrence.

    The first one, the police were called by pool security who said a large crowd of people were there without permission. The police then got called by a number of people who reported fighting. Do you have some video or audio to back up that second part?

    EDIT: I think the police responded badly but it is possible for both parties to be in the wrong.

    Yes. I also didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, and realize that in these sorts of communities, people lie about fighting and permission being granted with regards to minorities. Quite often.

    I get it, because of the color of their skin and where they live you decided you know what really happend.

    Snort.

    I watched the video, read the articles, saw the police response and relied on my cultural knowledge. This isn't exactly Rashomon.

    You remind me of all the arguments I used to have where, in response to discussions of lynching, my Southern neighbors told me about how the men at the end of the rope were horrible monsters who deserved what was coming to them. And I'm sure they were occasionally right! You hang a few thousand people, and you are sure to get a few really bad ones.

    But I knew the deal when I saw the video of those angry white housewives. That's the key, even more than Sgt. Tuck and Roll.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.

    * This is a routine occurrence.

    The first one, the police were called by pool security who said a large crowd of people were there without permission. The police then got called by a number of people who reported fighting. Do you have some video or audio to back up that second part?

    EDIT: I think the police responded badly but it is possible for both parties to be in the wrong.

    Yes. I also didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, and realize that in these sorts of communities, people lie about fighting and permission being granted with regards to minorities. Quite often.

    I get it, because of the color of their skin and where they live you decided you know what really happend.

    I've seen this shit happen over and over (the entirety of this thread being an record of such) that I no longer have either the desire or the wherewithal to give communities that routinely use policing as social and racial control the benefit of the doubt. You want to, more power to you. But I've seen this movie too many times, and I know how it ends.

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    AlazullAlazull Your body is not a temple, it's an amusement park. Enjoy the ride.Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mr Khan wrote: »
    This sort of thing happens all too often, where a bunch of black people gather for a completely innocuous purpose and some racists call the cops because the assembly of black people cannot possibly lead to anything good. Was it this thread, or some other thread on some other forum that had the story about the bus full of school students staying at a hotel in North Florida, where the hotel workers called the cops because nope, entirely too many black kids here.

    It's insane, it's like some places have gone nowhere in the last 70 years.

    So what do you think businesses should do when a large crowd enters without permission and refuses to leave? That's not a public location and is for residents only.

    What does this question have to do with the preceding statements?

    He's trying to make the argument that "well, businesses have the right to demand that people who do not have permission to be there leave." Which, of course, ignores that:

    * They did have permission.
    * The only reason the other residents were complaining was because of their skin color.

    * This is a routine occurrence.

    The first one, the police were called by pool security who said a large crowd of people were there without permission. The police then got called by a number of people who reported fighting. Do you have some video or audio to back up that second part?

    EDIT: I think the police responded badly but it is possible for both parties to be in the wrong.

    Yes. I also didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, and realize that in these sorts of communities, people lie about fighting and permission being granted with regards to minorities. Quite often.

    I get it, because of the color of their skin and where they live you decided you know what really happened.

    Dude, I watched something like what AngelHedgie is implying happened here go down twice when I was living in Georgia. I would bet that most people that have lived in the South for an appreciable amount of time have watched something very similar go down.

    We are making assumptions and sweeping generalizations, but so far nothing I've seen come out of this has made me think they are uncalled for. I'm willing to say that this is a case of an overly aggressive police officer attacking black children because of racism, but lets not pretend that racism might not be why police were called to the scene to begin with.

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