Haha, this is great and precisely how I am feeling about a lot of idiotic "biopolitics of Zerg Swarm as compared to moral agency in Tom Clancy's The Division" reviews that are cropping up with increasing frequency.
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yeah. Those demons should totally hash it out with the doomguy. Who is by all accounts a base and vile aggressor. "It's just ONE DUDE with a shotgun. How bad can it be?" -Hell knight moments before being blown clean in half by a double barrel.
Y'know that episode of South Park where everyone is a Yelp Reviewer, and Gerald (Kyle's dad) writes these super smug, totally pretentious yelp reviews while wearing a cardigan sweater and smoking a pipe? This reminds me of that, and I was totally picturing Runyon Dralp writing that review in a similar manner to Gerald Broflovski.
Doom is so good. It's like if you went back to your childhood home, and your dad was still alive, and the cat that was put down when you were 10 ran up to and rubbed up against your leg. It's an impossible transplant from 1993 into 2016. Dark magics must have been involved in it's creation. I half expect someone to start screaming "It's unnatural! It's just not right! What's dead should stay dead!" Meanwhile I'm just happy to have Doom back.
And yeah, seems like precisely the sort of game that would get lukewarm to negative reviews for being just another hyper violent, white male power fantasy, which unironically glorifies violence for it's own sake. If Polygon hadn't already made a laughing stock of themselves with their "first 30 minutes" footage, I'm sure we'd have seen an equally unhinged "Kiss Vs Kill" article about Doom from them already.
I'm not so sure that this is a "millenial" issue. I feel like rectum-gazing overanalysis has been attached to every art form throughout history. Millenials just took it out of academia and obscure zines and put it on the internet.
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I'm not so sure that this is a "millenial" issue. I feel like rectum-gazing overanalysis has been attached to every art form throughout history. Millenials just took it out of academia and obscure zines and put it on the internet.
BACK IN MY DAY WE KNEW A GAME WAS GOOD BUT THE FACES THE MAN MADE IN GAMEPRO!
Also the irony that the "Review" reads exactly like one of Tycho's news posts does not escape me.
I'm replaying Quake this month and that was refreshingly... fast? Now the Doom reviews start pouring in where everyone comments on how fast-paced it is, but back when we played Doom and Quake the first time, they were just "the speed that games simply are" 8-)
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Very clever choice of the fuchsia byline, that makes it ambiguous if the review is coming from Polygon or Kotaku (reads more like Polylgon though. Oh, and I guess that's Polygon's share buttons, so... maybe not so ambiguous.)
If the opinion of some random poster on the internet means anything to you, it is. The single player is amazing while the multiplayer is passable but not great.
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This comic is accurate. I keep seeing more reviews like this these days.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Very clever choice of the fuchsia byline, that makes it ambiguous if the review is coming from Polygon or Kotaku (reads more like Polylgon though. Oh, and I guess that's Polygon's share buttons, so... maybe not so ambiguous.)
Honestly it sounds like Kill Screen to me. I love them, but they are the worst offenders for stuff like this (no surprise they used to be owned by Pitchfork).
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
I keep thinking I'm reading this wrong, because there is no possible way... but, are you comparing Millennials to "The Greatest Generation"?
I have terrible news for you. If you think Millennials have suffered depredations now, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're going to look back on these days as the good ol' times.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
I keep thinking I'm reading this wrong, because there is no possible way... but, are you comparing Millennials to "The Greatest Generation"?
I have terrible news for you. If you think Millennials have suffered depredations now, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're going to look back on these days as the good ol' times.
I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case (especially if Trump wins). My point is that Gen X came of age during the 80's and 90's, a time where the worst armed conflicts were Grenada and the Gulf War, and the economy was on the rise.
Very clever choice of the fuchsia byline, that makes it ambiguous if the review is coming from Polygon or Kotaku (reads more like Polylgon though. Oh, and I guess that's Polygon's share buttons, so... maybe not so ambiguous.)
Honestly it sounds like Kill Screen to me. I love them, but they are the worst offenders for stuff like this (no surprise they used to be owned by Pitchfork).
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
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Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
I'm really struggling with where to even begin, and how to even go about this in good faith.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
*woosh*
I got you were making fun of my pointing out that Boomers fought in Vietnam (for some reason). Just didn't get how this related to Tube's claim that Millenials never knew suffering because the draft wasn't around.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
I'm really struggling with where to even begin, and how to even go about this in good faith.
So perhaps it's best I just don't.
You could start by explaining what I got factually incorrect? So far, no one has pointed anything out.
I guess I was more saying that every generation has had its way of telling the generation before it What The Shit Is Really Going On, and for the Boomers it was burning whatever of their parent's stuff they could find that didn't fit utopia, for Gen X it was Breakfast Club letters about what individuality really means and why they are the first ones to ever unleash it, and for Millennials it is taking every single thing they encounter and putting it through the chipper-shredder of social responsibility and presenting it back to you accusingly. They're all gyrations of the same rituals, which is being Real while others are being False.
And every generation has also had its way of telling the generation after it why they are the absolute worst, and for Boomers it was open letters to Gen X about how Boomers had ideals and Gen X has catchphrases, for Gen X it's open letters to Millennials about their easy lives and low attention spans, and for Millennials it will probably be open letters about how their kids spend too much time in virtual reality and not enough time solving real world problems.
The belief in our absolute generational superiority is the only connective tissue that truly ties us together. And that statement, in itself, is such a perfect encapsulation of my Gen X cynicism that my parents and my children would never agree!
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
*woosh*
I got you were making fun of my pointing out that Boomers fought in Vietnam (for some reason). Just didn't get how this related to Tube's claim that Millenials never knew suffering because the draft wasn't around.
Two forces are at play - one is that we know how incredibly embarrassing the earnest people of the 60s were even at the times they were making major positive social changes. They were ridiculous. Millennial earnestness is no different, but when they're in the forest they can't see the trees. The second is that Gen X dealt with this inherited embarrassment by coating ourselves in a thick layer of irony that sincerity has no hope of penetrating, and we've never emerged. When faced with True Believers, the effect is similar to confronting a vampire with a crucifix. But in the end, everyone is completely out of touch in their own way, and as collective generations we'll simply have to be confused by each other for eternity.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
Oh, you were drafted?
No, but neither was Gen X.
Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
I'm really struggling with where to even begin, and how to even go about this in good faith.
So perhaps it's best I just don't.
You could start by explaining what I got factually incorrect? So far, no one has pointed anything out.
Well, first, I find your proposition that Millennials have bore the brunt of a historic economic downturn, and war to be preposterous.
Millennials might be coming of age during an era of slim economic opportunity, but to say they've uniquely suffered the worst is nonsense. Millennials haven't lost their houses, their retirement, their middle class income which they were using to support a family. Millennials have no responsibilities or obligations, nothing to lose, and by and large are pushing the burden of adulthood onto their parents if statistics on how many of them still live at home into their 20's and 30's are to be believed.
As for the wars, I think others have already points out that's a wash. There is nothing uniquely burdensome about the wars an incredibly tiny minority of Millennials are fighting compared to the wars a tiny minority of Gen Xers were involved in.
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Wait, is Doom actually good?
DOOM is fucking rad. It's Mortal Kombat: the FPS
Is it 1993?
And yeah, seems like precisely the sort of game that would get lukewarm to negative reviews for being just another hyper violent, white male power fantasy, which unironically glorifies violence for it's own sake. If Polygon hadn't already made a laughing stock of themselves with their "first 30 minutes" footage, I'm sure we'd have seen an equally unhinged "Kiss Vs Kill" article about Doom from them already.
I'm not so sure that this is a "millenial" issue. I feel like rectum-gazing overanalysis has been attached to every art form throughout history. Millenials just took it out of academia and obscure zines and put it on the internet.
BACK IN MY DAY WE KNEW A GAME WAS GOOD BUT THE FACES THE MAN MADE IN GAMEPRO!
Also the irony that the "Review" reads exactly like one of Tycho's news posts does not escape me.
Yeah that is what I'm wondering as well.
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PSN: IncindiumX
If the opinion of some random poster on the internet means anything to you, it is. The single player is amazing while the multiplayer is passable but not great.
Honestly, it takes some goddamned balls for guys whose generation has never known want to throw shade on one that fought in a pointless armed conflict and suffered the brunt of one of the worst economic downturns in world history. Major goddamned balls.
I'm sorry, but are they trying to court the CNN demographic by being smug about millenials?
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Honestly it sounds like Kill Screen to me. I love them, but they are the worst offenders for stuff like this (no surprise they used to be owned by Pitchfork).
I keep thinking I'm reading this wrong, because there is no possible way... but, are you comparing Millennials to "The Greatest Generation"?
I have terrible news for you. If you think Millennials have suffered depredations now, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're going to look back on these days as the good ol' times.
I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case (especially if Trump wins). My point is that Gen X came of age during the 80's and 90's, a time where the worst armed conflicts were Grenada and the Gulf War, and the economy was on the rise.
At least the Boomers had Vietnam.
Oh, yeah. Kill Screen are hardcore contrarians.
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No, but neither was Gen X.
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Well, at least Gen X had Grenada and the Gulf War.
They've been doing this a bit, but to be fair, they are slowly becoming old men.
And Millenials had Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you heard of them.
I really don't get why people are this upset at me pointing out historical context as to why Gen X really isn't in a position to look down on Millenials? Especially when a ton of people here look down on Boomers for similar reasons.
Steam: pazython
*woosh*
I'm really struggling with where to even begin, and how to even go about this in good faith.
So perhaps it's best I just don't.
I got you were making fun of my pointing out that Boomers fought in Vietnam (for some reason). Just didn't get how this related to Tube's claim that Millenials never knew suffering because the draft wasn't around.
You could start by explaining what I got factually incorrect? So far, no one has pointed anything out.
Steam: pazython
And every generation has also had its way of telling the generation after it why they are the absolute worst, and for Boomers it was open letters to Gen X about how Boomers had ideals and Gen X has catchphrases, for Gen X it's open letters to Millennials about their easy lives and low attention spans, and for Millennials it will probably be open letters about how their kids spend too much time in virtual reality and not enough time solving real world problems.
The belief in our absolute generational superiority is the only connective tissue that truly ties us together. And that statement, in itself, is such a perfect encapsulation of my Gen X cynicism that my parents and my children would never agree!
Well, first, I find your proposition that Millennials have bore the brunt of a historic economic downturn, and war to be preposterous.
Millennials might be coming of age during an era of slim economic opportunity, but to say they've uniquely suffered the worst is nonsense. Millennials haven't lost their houses, their retirement, their middle class income which they were using to support a family. Millennials have no responsibilities or obligations, nothing to lose, and by and large are pushing the burden of adulthood onto their parents if statistics on how many of them still live at home into their 20's and 30's are to be believed.
As for the wars, I think others have already points out that's a wash. There is nothing uniquely burdensome about the wars an incredibly tiny minority of Millennials are fighting compared to the wars a tiny minority of Gen Xers were involved in.