i don't know that "At some point 9S yells angrily" is a spoiler
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Here's my perspective on what was happening up to now as I played the game, now that I've come down from the high of how awesome it is. Spoilers go up to the start of Route C.
My first impression of the game was "ick, controls," but swapping just two of the buttons and realizing the lock-on could be tapped helped a lot. I fumbled around in route A with side quests, hit that point of no return on being able to do some of them. So that overall inflated my playthrough for route B because partially completed quests had to be redone from the ground up. Mind you when I finished route B I had 36 hours logged on my playtime (though the clock runs when you're "paused" and I have to do that a lot).
The plot was... meh to me. Some of the existential beats were heavy-handed, but for the most part the passing observations of "humans, m i rite" were fantastic. 9S' perspective on things really built on all that. I was writing off the Adam and Eve stuff as typical-anime-bullshit, which it sorta still is, but as a perceived final encounter it was a bit of a letdown.
Then route C was teased after the credits. So I started it up, and it was clearly "this is what happens next." Oh okay, I can dig that, rad. Then the shit rapidly hits the fan, and as 2B and 9S escape the bunker, the fucking credits start showing like a motion picture's opening sequence.
Thirty.
Six.
Hours.
I screamed literally, in joy. I think I'd be hard pressed to come up with other examples of directorial bait and switches of that sort. I really, really hope the game from here on follows through on that, because if that's all it's got... well, hey it was still awesome as hell.
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Oh by the way, if
2B doesn't come back somehow
I will hate this game forever and never touch it again~
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You're making good progress. My playtimer stopped in Route B.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
Wait, something in route C doesn't make sense.
I went to Pascal's village as 9S and everyone was dead. I just showed up as A2, after sparing Pascal, and... it's back to normal? Is 9S losing his shit (I mean, given the crazy shit I just saw he very much is).
I went to Pascal's village as 9S and everyone was dead. I just showed up as A2, after sparing Pascal, and... it's back to normal? Is 9S losing his shit (I mean, given the crazy shit I just saw he very much is).
I missed that bit in its natural form, because I already had the resources the sidequest needed, so when I was trying to complete the "fill out the enemy glossary" sidequest that's available somewhere, I had to keep on going back to that area to try and get it to spawn
I went to Pascal's village as 9S and everyone was dead. I just showed up as A2, after sparing Pascal, and... it's back to normal? Is 9S losing his shit (I mean, given the crazy shit I just saw he very much is).
just keep playing, lots of things get explained
Just did and nooooooooooooooo
Edit - Oh god and it keeps getting worse.
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edited November 2017
Route C
I don't know what to do with Pascal. I can hack, I can kill... but the door opens and I can walk away. I don't know which is right at all.
Edit - I made my choice.
I walked away. Goddamn it I'm sorry Pascal. Maybe they can learn to live with it, is my hope. But I'm not killing them, and wiping their memories seemed wrong too.
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Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Replicants are a thing from the original Nier
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Replicants are a thing from the original Nier
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
Oh yeah, you're probably right.
People being shitty to other people makes more sense than whatever shit I imagined.
Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Replicants are a thing from the original Nier
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
Oh yeah, you're probably right.
People being shitty to other people makes more sense than whatever shit I imagined.
This game is full of smiles and rainbows.
Route C Alt route
So if you wipe pascal's memory, you find him in the village later, and he will sell you the body parts, and machine cores of the kids he's been scrounging.
It's pretty grim.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
I should not have read that spoiler. That said, AHHHHHH
Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Replicants are a thing from the original Nier
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
Oh yeah, you're probably right.
People being shitty to other people makes more sense than whatever shit I imagined.
This game is full of smiles and rainbows.
it is very very important to yorha to maintain these largely arbitrary distinctions between robots because otherwise their mission falls apart
Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Replicants are a thing from the original Nier
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
Oh yeah, you're probably right.
People being shitty to other people makes more sense than whatever shit I imagined.
This game is full of smiles and rainbows.
it is very very important to yorha to maintain these largely arbitrary distinctions between robots because otherwise their mission falls apart
Nier Replicant/Gestalt/Automata-spoilers. (Up to mid route C?)
Humans went all-in for making artifical people in their own image. They can enjoy eating fish. They can get drunk. They like music. They sing. Their blood is red.
At least some of them can operate magic.
Androids use machinery. They carry phones around. Or have pods carry phones around. They use non-portable email-technology by choice.
When humanity died, they tried to preserve their own souls, prepared the future production of perfect, untainted clone-bodies, and left everything in the hands of androids.
Androids are like doggos. They've been looking at the driveway all this time.
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edited November 2017
The translation team has failed me on Route C.
"Please make your choice." Uh, do you mean who to play as or who dies you fucking Greek tragedy?
Edit - Oh, and Route C complete.
Edit - Wait, now what?
This chapter selection shit is a little overwhelming because I dunno how many of them lead to different endings and such. And I know DAMN well that there's more to this story than A2 collapsing the tower.
He didn't play the original NieR. So the very end isn't even in his mind. Having played the original, you could sense what they were going to ask of you.
He has NO idea.
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I have a question about post-route-C.
So with the chapter select thing, will I play the game from that chosen point until I reach an ending again? Or do I just play to the end of the chapter? I noticed last night if I choose "start game" I will be put right at the start as if it were a new file, playing as 2B, only all my stats / items carry over.
So with the chapter select thing, will I play the game from that chosen point until I reach an ending again? Or do I just play to the end of the chapter? I noticed last night if I choose "start game" I will be put right at the start as if it were a new file, playing as 2B, only all my stats / items carry over.
Pretty sure every time you load up a save you can pick a new chapter? This is just for completionism. It tells you how many quests you’ve completed for each chapter for example.
Getting the next ending details in spoiler
If you wanted you could just load up the final chapter and make the opposite choice for ending d right now.
So with the chapter select thing, will I play the game from that chosen point until I reach an ending again? Or do I just play to the end of the chapter? I noticed last night if I choose "start game" I will be put right at the start as if it were a new file, playing as 2B, only all my stats / items carry over.
you can pretty much jump around willy nilly with chapter select. you dont need to finish a chapter or anything
this is useful for things such as jumping between an early chapter and a late chapter to grind cash via buying and selling the same item low, then high as items become worth more in the later chapters, or finding sidequests you missed, or just going to the final fight choice
Okay I have to take a break for the night, emotions ran pretty high during route C (which I'm still not done with).
That little choose-your-own-adventure thing with the twins was odd, but I'm glad I'm figuring out more about the background of why any of this is happening at all. I'm kind of shocked to see that androids are just THAT into the idea of protecting humanity.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Replicants are a thing from the original Nier
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
Oh yeah, you're probably right.
People being shitty to other people makes more sense than whatever shit I imagined.
This game is full of smiles and rainbows.
Route C Alt route
So if you wipe pascal's memory, you find him in the village later, and he will sell you the body parts, and machine cores of the kids he's been scrounging.
It's pretty grim.
Route C
Yeah I....killed Pascal.
Wiping his memory didn't seem right, it seemed awful, and walking away seemed like the coward's way out, so....
Edit - Oh, and Route C complete.
Edit - Wait, now what?
This chapter selection shit is a little overwhelming because I dunno how many of them lead to different endings and such. And I know DAMN well that there's more to this story than A2 collapsing the tower.
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Some real-ass shit, friend.
Some real-ass shit.
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The plot was... meh to me. Some of the existential beats were heavy-handed, but for the most part the passing observations of "humans, m i rite" were fantastic. 9S' perspective on things really built on all that. I was writing off the Adam and Eve stuff as typical-anime-bullshit, which it sorta still is, but as a perceived final encounter it was a bit of a letdown.
Then route C was teased after the credits. So I started it up, and it was clearly "this is what happens next." Oh okay, I can dig that, rad. Then the shit rapidly hits the fan, and as 2B and 9S escape the bunker, the fucking credits start showing like a motion picture's opening sequence.
Thirty.
Six.
Hours.
I screamed literally, in joy. I think I'd be hard pressed to come up with other examples of directorial bait and switches of that sort. I really, really hope the game from here on follows through on that, because if that's all it's got... well, hey it was still awesome as hell.
you will regret your words and your deeds
Knock it off! :P
"You damn dirty robots!"
And the camera pulls back all dramatic as 'Kiss From a Rose' starts playing.
just keep playing, lots of things get explained
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Edit - Oh god and it keeps getting worse.
I'm assuming that "Replicants" were supposed to be a means of saving humanity from, what, a plague or something? I dunno what "relapses" are yet.
Also nice little bombshell about the blackboxes and their origin. YORHA models aren't actually androids eh? Now I get why emotions "weren't permitted" - it's probably a safeguard against the YORHA models finding out they're not actually capable of emotion since they're technically machines. But then, they've all clearly underestimated the machines being capable of that stuff (as long as they aren't attached to the network) so maybe it was moot all along?
I'm currently at the point where 9S entered the tower, and the game swapped me back to A2. I have a feeling this is my last chance to do some things though there's a locked chest or two I forgot to ran 9S over to. OH WELL I guess I'll have to play the whole thing over again.
Re: the blackboxes, I don't think it's that the androids are incapable of emoting. after all 9S seems pretty sad and angry. I think it's more that the yorha androids are actually machines, and they're forbidden from emoting because it's important to the androids to convince themselves that machines are subsubhuman, unlike them, who are just subhuman.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
This game is full of smiles and rainbows.
Route C Alt route
It's pretty grim.
Nier Replicant/Gestalt/Automata-spoilers. (Up to mid route C?)
At least some of them can operate magic.
Androids use machinery. They carry phones around. Or have pods carry phones around. They use non-portable email-technology by choice.
When humanity died, they tried to preserve their own souls, prepared the future production of perfect, untainted clone-bodies, and left everything in the hands of androids.
Androids are like doggos. They've been looking at the driveway all this time.
Edit - Wait, now what?
when you're ready you'll want to go back and make the choice you didn't make at the end to see the other side of that exchange
He has NO idea.
Getting the next ending details in spoiler
this is useful for things such as jumping between an early chapter and a late chapter to grind cash via buying and selling the same item low, then high as items become worth more in the later chapters, or finding sidequests you missed, or just going to the final fight choice
Route C
Wiping his memory didn't seem right, it seemed awful, and walking away seemed like the coward's way out, so....
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@Henroid (route C spoilers re: "now what?"):
The main narrative isn't over until you get ending E
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
Sooooooooo
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Also as far as 9S goes, I chose to stay.