San Diego Comicon blew out a lot of the oomphf of the Lars of the Stars episode for me. Good episode, but it would have been spectacular had I not seen the Comicon clip.
That jelly bird is the most adorable apex predator I've ever seen.
Remember, Steven can view the dreams of others. Thinking about this, I do not think he is viewing Pink Diamond's dream either. I don't think he or Rose is/was Pink Diamond either.
True, Rose looked like Pink, but there are plenty of different gems that we've seen that take on characteristics of their Primary Diamond. We see this in the Pearls, most distinctly, but others like Agate, and Lapis take one Blue's features. All of Pink's gems (the Amethysts, Jaspers, and Rose) have wild poofy hair like Pink's hair. Peridot has a tight hair style and a tad manic demeanor like Yellow's. Not everything is the same or cookie cutter looks, but you can definitely find a characteristic or two that puts them in with a Primary Gem more than another we've seen so far.
We got like 2minutes of a *dream* and 4seconds of an actual image of Pink, I'm grasping at straws here.
Maybe he's picking up something from Yellow? Or maybe its just a residual *something* from this Moon Base...
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Yeah this looks a lot like Rose, guys
The main difference is that they didn't draw her nose with the two parallel lines like they do Rose's, but I think if they did that it would be too obvious, which is why they didn't. There's also some physical changes Rose obviously made herself - longer hair, the peach skin, and having stars appear in her eyes when she's excited, instead of diamonds.
But I also don't think Rose is just a diamond pretending or something. I think she somehow learned how to transfer her consciousness into a Quartz, thus the actual shattering of Pink Diamond, that Rose was blamed for... the diamond had to be shattered in order to transfer her to a new gem? It also leaves the question of where the Rose Quartz she transferred into came from, because usually in this series that would involve replacing someone's consciousness which would still be just as wicked from a moral perspective as shattering a Diamond (though homeworld would care a lot less, one would think).
The reason I think a consciousness transfer had to have happened is 1) The gem shape looks different and 2) Peridot was able to recognize Steven as a quartz even without looking at his gem.
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Their the same person. I think maybe Rose was very close to Pink, like Rose, Pink, and Pearl were a trifecta of besties, and as Pink grew, her Pearl and her first gem she made, most likely Rose, grew with her, and apart from the other Diamonds who looked down on Pink. I think maybe Rose is a part of Pink Diamond, thats how she was made, and why Steven sees dreams like this, but I don't think they are the same.
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I think it would explain
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
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rose is not pink diamond or a part of pink diamond in any way but for the fact that pink's ghost still haunts her after she murdered her in cold blood
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murdered or bubbled, transferred to white diamond's safekeep by her pearl which she sent to accompany her
I think tal's idea that pink was an off color is right, and she tried to offset this lack of power/stature (those seem to be connected in gem society) by creating the rose quartz caste, an entire division of highly capable leaders that could help her command
but this added autonamy threatens the highly demarcated hierarchy of gem kind, potentially calling into question the whole structure and system. What better way to dispose of this potential complication than engineer an assassination, blame it on the troublesome new gem prototype, and to make sure no one ever finds out the truth corrupt the whole planet when you're done?
only for reasons of Dramatic Irony I'm betting either Pearl or White Diamond couldn't go with actually shattering Pink in the end, and she's still alive somewhere in stasis
I still say Pink Diamond is the singer of that song from the one Sadie episode.
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Yellow took on several characteristics of Connie's mom in the dream, it's not unreasonable that Pink's appearance isn't accurate either and has been imbued with some of Rose's characteristics.
Yellow took on several characteristics of Connie's mom in the dream, it's not unreasonable that Pink's appearance isn't accurate either and has been imbued with some of Rose's characteristics.
whatever Pinks deal Im pretty sure we can presume that was the “real” pink. The entire sequence is the dream slowly turning into a memory and its reasonable to assume the last moment was more or less accurate.
It also pointlessly undercuts what is clearly supposed to be our shocking first look at Pink Diamond.
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rose is not pink diamond or a part of pink diamond in any way but for the fact that pink's ghost still haunts her after she murdered her in cold blood
Don't get me wrong,
I still think Rose shattered someone in order to get her current Quartz look, I just think the one she shattered was not Pink Diamond.
Giving more thought to the episode, I think Nephrite is important, and Nephrite is potentially the one Rose shattered. She's upset that there's life on the planet she's been told to conquer, and is arguing with Yellow about it. I wonder if Pink somehow shared or swapped consciousness with Nephrite (which is a skill we know Steven has and has made use of, see his body swap with Lars), and got Nephrite killed, and that's her great regret, that started her on the road to rebellion.
Or another potential route here is that Pink took over Nephrite in order to "have her own army", fucked shit up royally (and got Nephrite shattered), but got away not really caring about the destruction she caused except as it embarrassed her, and that snafu is what pushed Yellow to get her her own colony. Maybe over time Pink regretted that destruction, but not at first, and the "shattering of Pink" (which was really the shattering of some Rose Quartz in Pink's body) was where the shit really hit the fan for Pink. Maybe it was even accidental. But the fact that Pink's retinue was there when Pink got shattered, yet did nothing to stop it suggests a diamond was involved, and right now Pink Diamond herself seems the most likely culpret. But only the gems in the room would believe that Rose Quartz was actually Pink... none of Pink's other gems would.
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I really hope they don't do anything to undermine the idea of rose first degree assassinating pink diamond
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The more I think about it, the more I like my theory
It explains so much... like why Rose never really made clear to Pearl that she'd never be her lover. To Pink, a Pearl's utter devotion was a given. She clearly showered more affection on Pearl than Yellow seems to on her Pearl, but to Pink it was always going to be a queen-and-her-devoted-vassal relationship and nothing more. Until she met Greg,
she maybe didn't even understand that kind of romantic love, and it's only because Greg demanded to be treated as an equal, something Pearl was unable to do.
The start of her mind changing had to be after she accidentally shattered her own gem with a quartz in the consciousness, and went out to earth as a lone quartz with only her pearl for a friend. Because she didn't know what life was like as anything other than a spoiled princess until that point. She came to understand the beauties of both earth and of other gems by experiencing them first hand.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
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Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
I mean,
Peridot has show one supernatural skill only. Pearl knows how to call a weapon which indeed is unexpected for a Pearl to be able to do, but she can still only call things from her gem, not any other supernatural skill.
Steven can: 1) heal with spit 2) resurrect with tears 3) swap bodies 4) call a shield 5) create a shield bubble as seemingly large as he needs 6) create new life-forms out of plants 7)
partially restore broken minds. 8) Share other people's dreams and/or memories.
The only other gem with seemingly multiple supernatural skills instead of just one skill is Garnet (future vision and her fightin' glove), and she's a fusion. Everyone else is limited to one supernatural skill only. Perhaps in time Peridot or Lapis will be able to call a weapon as well, giving them two skills... but two seems to be the limit on supernatural skills, with the sole exception of Rose.
I guess if you want to count bubbling things and teleporting them where they want, that's an additional second skill everyone has... but that still means that Steven has 9 to everyone else's 2.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
I mean,
Peridot has show one supernatural skill only. Pearl knows how to call a weapon which indeed is unexpected for a Pearl to be able to do, but she can still only call things from her gem, not any other supernatural skill.
Steven can: 1) heal with spit 2) resurrect with tears 3) swap bodies 4) call a shield 5) create a shield bubble as seemingly large as he needs 6) create new life-forms out of plants 7)
partially restore broken minds. 8) Share other people's dreams and/or memories.
The only other gem with seemingly multiple supernatural skills instead of just one skill is Garnet (future vision and her fightin' glove), and she's a fusion. Everyone else is limited to one supernatural skill only. Perhaps in time Peridot or Lapis will be able to call a weapon as well, giving them two skills... but two seems to be the limit on supernatural skills, with the sole exception of Rose.
I guess if you want to count bubbling things and teleporting them where they want, that's an additional second skill everyone has... but that still means that Steven has 9 to everyone else's 2.
Yeah, she’s more powerful and manifested more powers. That doesn’t mean secretly a diamond.
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
I mean,
Peridot has show one supernatural skill only. Pearl knows how to call a weapon which indeed is unexpected for a Pearl to be able to do, but she can still only call things from her gem, not any other supernatural skill.
Steven can: 1) heal with spit 2) resurrect with tears 3) swap bodies 4) call a shield 5) create a shield bubble as seemingly large as he needs 6) create new life-forms out of plants 7)
partially restore broken minds. 8) Share other people's dreams and/or memories.
The only other gem with seemingly multiple supernatural skills instead of just one skill is Garnet (future vision and her fightin' glove), and she's a fusion. Everyone else is limited to one supernatural skill only. Perhaps in time Peridot or Lapis will be able to call a weapon as well, giving them two skills... but two seems to be the limit on supernatural skills, with the sole exception of Rose.
I guess if you want to count bubbling things and teleporting them where they want, that's an additional second skill everyone has... but that still means that Steven has 9 to everyone else's 2.
They all have quite a bit more ancillary powers than that. Garnet can create electricity, Pearl can shoot energy blasts from her spear and control sand, Amethyst can make purple fire (a power Jasper shares, so presumably most quartz soldiers can do that).
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
Am I forgetting something about Peridot? We arnt talking about her metal powers are we? Because Peridots absolutely have those powers. The more recent Peridots are just seriously weakened do to resource shortage.
Also Im still stuanchly holding to my idea that the crystal gems invented weapon summoning.
Nah, homeworld soldiers just use modern weapons instead. They don't need to summon personal weapons, so they never learn, just like Peri and her metal powers.
Also Im still stuanchly holding to my idea that the crystal gems invented weapon summoning.
Nah, homeworld soldiers just use modern weapons instead. They don't need to summon personal weapons, so they never learn, just like Peri and her metal powers.
Peri didnt “never need to learn”. She was born with considerably less resources than her gem requires and is much weaker than she should be.
Anyway thats all speculation and I think theyve suptly hint that at the very least summon weapons were invented/rediacovered during the war for earth since Jasper is the only noncrystal gem we have seen use one.
Also Im still stuanchly holding to my idea that the crystal gems invented weapon summoning.
Nah, homeworld soldiers just use modern weapons instead. They don't need to summon personal weapons, so they never learn, just like Peri and her metal powers.
Peri didnt “never need to learn”. She was born with considerably less resources than her gem requires and is much weaker than she should be.
She certainly thinks so, but there's no telling really. Not like we've seen another Peridot.
In any case, the existence of material weapons being used in the gem war can be an indication that some gems can't summon personal weapons, but doesn't really explain why they can't. Everything we know of homeworld tells me that non-soldier homeworld gems simply aren't taught/allowed, not that they can't.
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
Am I forgetting something about Peridot? We arnt talking about her metal powers are we? Because Peridots absolutely have those powers. The more recent Peridots are just seriously weakened do to resource shortage.
I don’t recall it ever being said or shown that other peridots have that power. Did I miss something?
Also Im still stuanchly holding to my idea that the crystal gems invented weapon summoning.
Nah, homeworld soldiers just use modern weapons instead. They don't need to summon personal weapons, so they never learn, just like Peri and her metal powers.
Peri didnt “never need to learn”. She was born with considerably less resources than her gem requires and is much weaker than she should be.
She certainly thinks so, but there's no telling really. Not like we've seen another Peridot.
In any case, the existence of material weapons being used in the gem war can be an indication that some gems can't summon personal weapons, but doesn't really explain why they can't. Everything we know of homeworld tells me that non-soldier homeworld gems simply aren't taught/allowed, not that they can't.
We have seen flashback to the gem war in which a fight takes place and niether side summons their weapon. Hell they dont use weapons at all. A gaggle of Rubys fist fight Rose and Pearl who sre using swords.
You start telling gems they can make their own pocket dimension and summon things out of there who knows what they'll hide, better to just give them a good old fashioned sword
Why Rose (and therefore Steven) has such an incredibly broad range of powers, much moreso than the other gems. And why she can create life, including making plants into sentient warriors. Perhaps the life-giving ability is the reason Diamonds even have colonies, why kindergardens aren't filled with lifeless rocks but living, sentient gems.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
Peridot has demonstrated powers unknown to her or other gems. Pearl too to a more limited degree. It seems clear to me that most gems are capable of quite a bit more than what they believe. They only seem to be limited by their oppressive society that discourages attempting anything outside of one’s role.
Am I forgetting something about Peridot? We arnt talking about her metal powers are we? Because Peridots absolutely have those powers. The more recent Peridots are just seriously weakened do to resource shortage.
I don’t recall it ever being said or shown that other peridots have that power. Did I miss something?
In the episode where her powers are introduced Peri inform Steven that she is a weak varient of Peridots that startes to be produced due to a resource shortage. She says that Peridots from before them had/have metal powers.
Also Im still stuanchly holding to my idea that the crystal gems invented weapon summoning.
Nah, homeworld soldiers just use modern weapons instead. They don't need to summon personal weapons, so they never learn, just like Peri and her metal powers.
Peri didnt “never need to learn”. She was born with considerably less resources than her gem requires and is much weaker than she should be.
She certainly thinks so, but there's no telling really. Not like we've seen another Peridot.
In any case, the existence of material weapons being used in the gem war can be an indication that some gems can't summon personal weapons, but doesn't really explain why they can't. Everything we know of homeworld tells me that non-soldier homeworld gems simply aren't taught/allowed, not that they can't.
We have seen flashback to the gem war in which a fight takes place and niether side summons their weapon. Hell they dont use weapons at all. A gaggle of Rubys fist fight Rose and Pearl who sre using swords.
Our Ruby can summon a personal weapon, so the rest probably could as well.
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Remember, Steven can view the dreams of others. Thinking about this, I do not think he is viewing Pink Diamond's dream either. I don't think he or Rose is/was Pink Diamond either.
True, Rose looked like Pink, but there are plenty of different gems that we've seen that take on characteristics of their Primary Diamond. We see this in the Pearls, most distinctly, but others like Agate, and Lapis take one Blue's features. All of Pink's gems (the Amethysts, Jaspers, and Rose) have wild poofy hair like Pink's hair. Peridot has a tight hair style and a tad manic demeanor like Yellow's. Not everything is the same or cookie cutter looks, but you can definitely find a characteristic or two that puts them in with a Primary Gem more than another we've seen so far.
We got like 2minutes of a *dream* and 4seconds of an actual image of Pink, I'm grasping at straws here.
Maybe he's picking up something from Yellow? Or maybe its just a residual *something* from this Moon Base...
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The main difference is that they didn't draw her nose with the two parallel lines like they do Rose's, but I think if they did that it would be too obvious, which is why they didn't. There's also some physical changes Rose obviously made herself - longer hair, the peach skin, and having stars appear in her eyes when she's excited, instead of diamonds.
But I also don't think Rose is just a diamond pretending or something. I think she somehow learned how to transfer her consciousness into a Quartz, thus the actual shattering of Pink Diamond, that Rose was blamed for... the diamond had to be shattered in order to transfer her to a new gem? It also leaves the question of where the Rose Quartz she transferred into came from, because usually in this series that would involve replacing someone's consciousness which would still be just as wicked from a moral perspective as shattering a Diamond (though homeworld would care a lot less, one would think).
The reason I think a consciousness transfer had to have happened is 1) The gem shape looks different and 2) Peridot was able to recognize Steven as a quartz even without looking at his gem.
It would also explain why Pearl has such a devastating attachment to Rose. Because all the Pearls seem designed to have such a powerful love and a unity of spirit with their diamonds.
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I think tal's idea that pink was an off color is right, and she tried to offset this lack of power/stature (those seem to be connected in gem society) by creating the rose quartz caste, an entire division of highly capable leaders that could help her command
but this added autonamy threatens the highly demarcated hierarchy of gem kind, potentially calling into question the whole structure and system. What better way to dispose of this potential complication than engineer an assassination, blame it on the troublesome new gem prototype, and to make sure no one ever finds out the truth corrupt the whole planet when you're done?
only for reasons of Dramatic Irony I'm betting either Pearl or White Diamond couldn't go with actually shattering Pink in the end, and she's still alive somewhere in stasis
It also pointlessly undercuts what is clearly supposed to be our shocking first look at Pink Diamond.
Don't get me wrong,
Giving more thought to the episode, I think Nephrite is important, and Nephrite is potentially the one Rose shattered. She's upset that there's life on the planet she's been told to conquer, and is arguing with Yellow about it. I wonder if Pink somehow shared or swapped consciousness with Nephrite (which is a skill we know Steven has and has made use of, see his body swap with Lars), and got Nephrite killed, and that's her great regret, that started her on the road to rebellion.
Or another potential route here is that Pink took over Nephrite in order to "have her own army", fucked shit up royally (and got Nephrite shattered), but got away not really caring about the destruction she caused except as it embarrassed her, and that snafu is what pushed Yellow to get her her own colony. Maybe over time Pink regretted that destruction, but not at first, and the "shattering of Pink" (which was really the shattering of some Rose Quartz in Pink's body) was where the shit really hit the fan for Pink. Maybe it was even accidental. But the fact that Pink's retinue was there when Pink got shattered, yet did nothing to stop it suggests a diamond was involved, and right now Pink Diamond herself seems the most likely culpret. But only the gems in the room would believe that Rose Quartz was actually Pink... none of Pink's other gems would.
she maybe didn't even understand that kind of romantic love, and it's only because Greg demanded to be treated as an equal, something Pearl was unable to do.
The start of her mind changing had to be after she accidentally shattered her own gem with a quartz in the consciousness, and went out to earth as a lone quartz with only her pearl for a friend. Because she didn't know what life was like as anything other than a spoiled princess until that point. She came to understand the beauties of both earth and of other gems by experiencing them first hand.
Quartz isn’t the only one with a broader range of powers than her peers.
I mean,
Steven can: 1) heal with spit 2) resurrect with tears 3) swap bodies 4) call a shield 5) create a shield bubble as seemingly large as he needs 6) create new life-forms out of plants 7)
partially restore broken minds. 8) Share other people's dreams and/or memories.
The only other gem with seemingly multiple supernatural skills instead of just one skill is Garnet (future vision and her fightin' glove), and she's a fusion. Everyone else is limited to one supernatural skill only. Perhaps in time Peridot or Lapis will be able to call a weapon as well, giving them two skills... but two seems to be the limit on supernatural skills, with the sole exception of Rose.
I guess if you want to count bubbling things and teleporting them where they want, that's an additional second skill everyone has... but that still means that Steven has 9 to everyone else's 2.
Am I forgetting something about Peridot? We arnt talking about her metal powers are we? Because Peridots absolutely have those powers. The more recent Peridots are just seriously weakened do to resource shortage.
Nah, homeworld soldiers just use modern weapons instead. They don't need to summon personal weapons, so they never learn, just like Peri and her metal powers.
Peri didnt “never need to learn”. She was born with considerably less resources than her gem requires and is much weaker than she should be.
Anyway thats all speculation and I think theyve suptly hint that at the very least summon weapons were invented/rediacovered during the war for earth since Jasper is the only noncrystal gem we have seen use one.
She certainly thinks so, but there's no telling really. Not like we've seen another Peridot.
In any case, the existence of material weapons being used in the gem war can be an indication that some gems can't summon personal weapons, but doesn't really explain why they can't. Everything we know of homeworld tells me that non-soldier homeworld gems simply aren't taught/allowed, not that they can't.
I don’t recall it ever being said or shown that other peridots have that power. Did I miss something?
We have seen flashback to the gem war in which a fight takes place and niether side summons their weapon. Hell they dont use weapons at all. A gaggle of Rubys fist fight Rose and Pearl who sre using swords.
None of the theories in this thread have been dumb.
I dont know what it is lately but this thread has gotten riddiculously hostile and making it an unplesant place to hang out.
In the episode where her powers are introduced Peri inform Steven that she is a weak varient of Peridots that startes to be produced due to a resource shortage. She says that Peridots from before them had/have metal powers.
Our Ruby can summon a personal weapon, so the rest probably could as well.