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Yeah, I don't think Deke blinked out of existence. I thought they were being a little ambiguous about it, but clearly leaning towards "he just left to see the world."
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
Except Mack and Mom also survived when they were supposed to die, and Coulson had nothing to do with that.
So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
Except Mack and Mom also survived when they were supposed to die, and Coulson had nothing to do with that.
On the other hand
We don't know that was the point they died. Just because it's a convenient point to remove them doesn't mean that's necessarily when it happened.
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So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
Except Mack and Mom also survived when they were supposed to die, and Coulson had nothing to do with that.
On the other hand
We don't know that was the point they died. Just because it's a convenient point to remove them doesn't mean that's necessarily when it happened.
"Trying to save Coulson is what dooms the world."
"Only he (Coulson) can put the pieces together."
May is the one who ultimately realizes it. Instead of jamming a needle in Coulson and curing him, she gives him the serum. Coulson then makes the call on how to use it.
In the alternate realities, they presumably just jammed the needle in him.
Also, Yo-Yo calling Daisy a bad leader is what makes her give that position over to Mack, who then ends up positioning everyone in such a way that May and Fitz end up being nearby to help him and the mom, instead of where everyone would've been positioned if Daisy (or cured Coulson) had called the shots. Alt Yo-Yo presumably didn't do this because in that reality/timeline everyone was all aboard the "save Coulson" train.
So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
Except Mack and Mom also survived when they were supposed to die, and Coulson had nothing to do with that.
On the other hand
We don't know that was the point they died. Just because it's a convenient point to remove them doesn't mean that's necessarily when it happened.
Robin said she was never going to see her mom again when they were split up.
So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
Except Mack and Mom also survived when they were supposed to die, and Coulson had nothing to do with that.
So I say Coulson alone broke the loop. Fitz dying was the timeline tying off a loose end.
Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
Except Mack and Mom also survived when they were supposed to die, and Coulson had nothing to do with that.
On the other hand
We don't know that was the point they died. Just because it's a convenient point to remove them doesn't mean that's necessarily when it happened.
Robin said she was never going to see her mom again when they were split up.
Didn't she say that if she didn't help Talbot, then this will be the last time they see each other?
Since she did help him, possibly not the last time they see each other?
You think time travel is confusing from the outside, can you imagine trying to see time from Robin's perspective? That if/then statement seems to imply that she's not just seeing the future, she's seeing multiple possible futures, all at the same time and all the time.
The problem is they've always stated up until now that Robin only ever sees one timeline and has never been able to change it (as was also the case for her dad). The 'if' wording did confuse me, but I'm sticking with the original facts laid down rather than assuming that changed in the last episode without comment.
Robins dad was the character that could see how people died, and his final scene was on a rooftop with may right? Been wondering if I'm remembering right or confusing something from a different show.
killing the happy Fitz, as that was predictable as all hell and annoying, even if they do have a spare floating around. But writers can't help themselves it seems.
As mentioned Talbot got screwed over. At least he went out in a novel way, though.
Coulson got better before not as the plot demanded a little too much.
At least it's mostly a happy ending (he's in Tahiti, you don't die there it's a magical place. Something will save him).
Do we know how the drawing of one large person with 5 small people in them came to pass or didn't as it was a different time line?
And dammit, I want to know what happened to deke! Someone ask in a QnA!
Maybe it was just a metaphor?
And I think Deke's status is officially
"wait and see"
Real question about Talbot
He came back to Earth with a quinjet, right? And last week May and Deke blew up the mothership. So where did Talbot find a big-ass ship to drop on Chicago? And why did the streets of Chicago look like LA? :P
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Do we know how the drawing of one large person with 5 small people in them came to pass or didn't as it was a different time line?
And dammit, I want to know what happened to deke! Someone ask in a QnA!
Maybe it was just a metaphor?
And I think Deke's status is officially
"wait and see"
Real question about Talbot
He came back to Earth with a quinjet, right? And last week May and Deke blew up the mothership. So where did Talbot find a big-ass ship to drop on Chicago? And why did the streets of Chicago look like LA? :P
I assumed the ship was the wreckage from the one that May and Deke scuttled.
Do we know how the drawing of one large person with 5 small people in them came to pass or didn't as it was a different time line?
And dammit, I want to know what happened to deke! Someone ask in a QnA!
Maybe it was just a metaphor?
And I think Deke's status is officially
"wait and see"
Real question about Talbot
He came back to Earth with a quinjet, right? And last week May and Deke blew up the mothership. So where did Talbot find a big-ass ship to drop on Chicago? And why did the streets of Chicago look like LA? :P
I assumed the ship was the wreckage from the one that May and Deke scuttled.
Here's my guess: he left the Quinnjet behind when he visited his family and needed a new ride. The derelict spaceship floating in space during the title screen was supposed to indicate that he was pulling it to Earth.
Makes about as much sense as "that was Multiple Bot's real head and he's gone for good".
Yeah, I don't think Deke blinked out of existence. I thought they were being a little ambiguous about it, but clearly leaning towards "he just left to see the world."
I actually think he did.
Granted it was not very clear, but they established earlier that Deke Disappearing would be the only way they knew they broke the loop. He was the Canary in the Coal Mine. I rather think that when Fitz 'died' he actuallly disappeared, which is why no funeral. the Fitz that died was a time duplicate (think Futurama...Time Duplicates never survive since they should not exist). Show could have used an extra few minutes of exposition about what happen at the end.
Well, that finale was full of emotion. Some really nice stuff from the writers and actors. Daisy and Coulson, May and Coulson, Fitz with Mack and May. Lots of teary moments.
I liked the season a lot, if only because it put a pretty tidy bow on things. My biggest issue with it was:
Yo-Yo not telling the group about what her future version said re: Coulson until near the end.
It felt like a really cheap and illogical way to try to heighten the drama, and it's probably the writing trope/crutch I hate the most because it's so lazy.
I feel kind of hesitant to watch the next season, I have a habit of watching shows that over stay their welcome like Chuck or Supernatural.
I really like all the other actors and characters, but with Clark Greg leaving, it feels like the center is gone, and having Mack as director again with the way Fitz was glossed over I’m not sure the writers have anything interesting to say or the ability to say it in an engaging way, especially with all the throw away political lines that have been popping up, some more egregious than others.
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Also, it's a good thing supercharging Daisy didn't lead to her becoming unstable and quaking the world apart.
Not sure about Deke. Trying to decide if it was the same room seen full and empty. If it was, I just assume they had already cleaned it out since they knew they didn't need it. Also assume Deke would take his tool, and Simmons was packing Fitz's?
On the other hand
"Only he (Coulson) can put the pieces together."
May is the one who ultimately realizes it. Instead of jamming a needle in Coulson and curing him, she gives him the serum. Coulson then makes the call on how to use it.
In the alternate realities, they presumably just jammed the needle in him.
Also, Yo-Yo calling Daisy a bad leader is what makes her give that position over to Mack, who then ends up positioning everyone in such a way that May and Fitz end up being nearby to help him and the mom, instead of where everyone would've been positioned if Daisy (or cured Coulson) had called the shots. Alt Yo-Yo presumably didn't do this because in that reality/timeline everyone was all aboard the "save Coulson" train.
Since she did help him, possibly not the last time they see each other?
You think time travel is confusing from the outside, can you imagine trying to see time from Robin's perspective? That if/then statement seems to imply that she's not just seeing the future, she's seeing multiple possible futures, all at the same time and all the time.
It is the only way this squares with previous seasons. "Just do it differently" was what they tried with Robin's dad, and it never worked.
As mentioned Talbot got screwed over. At least he went out in a novel way, though.
Coulson got better before not as the plot demanded a little too much.
At least it's mostly a happy ending (he's in Tahiti, you don't die there it's a magical place. Something will save him).
And dammit, I want to know what happened to deke! Someone ask in a QnA!
Maybe it was just a metaphor?
And I think Deke's status is officially
Real question about Talbot
Makes about as much sense as "that was Multiple Bot's real head and he's gone for good".
Which means maybe we could have Enoch back. Which would be great.
I can see it now. (Infinity War spoiler)
Enoch: 'Ah, the correct amount of time has passed. Now to awaken my ward'
*opens pod*
'... Fuck'
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I actually think he did.
Guy could barely walk. I don't think Parasailing of any kind is likely unfortunately.
It's a magical place.
Have to say the time loop thing was a dud.
A short peek at the recording session for the music of the final episode. Sounds great. A couple of the actors are in attendance too.
Right now it feels like another season would just feel like an extended epilogue to the show. It'll be interesting to see where it goes next year.
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It felt like a really cheap and illogical way to try to heighten the drama, and it's probably the writing trope/crutch I hate the most because it's so lazy.
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I really like all the other actors and characters, but with Clark Greg leaving, it feels like the center is gone, and having Mack as director again with the way Fitz was glossed over I’m not sure the writers have anything interesting to say or the ability to say it in an engaging way, especially with all the throw away political lines that have been popping up, some more egregious than others.
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He is supposed to be directing a bit I think?