There seems to be like 2 too many stories. There's origin, romance, half brother, introduction of Atlantis, introduction of like two other species and Black Manta.
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Shazam looked really good. The phone charging and "you're dead" were good, but holy shit do they need to delete the backpack kid dance from the real movie immediately, post haste.
Aquaman looked fine, bonus points for fighting crab people. Mera looks nice and whatever CGI they did to highlight her hair was working. Kinda don't want to deal with kid Aquaman backstory though.
Shazam looked really good. The phone charging and "you're dead" were good, but holy shit do they need to delete the backpack kid dance from the real movie immediately, post haste.
Aquaman looked fine, bonus points for fighting crab people. Mera looks nice and whatever CGI they did to highlight her hair was working. Kinda don't want to deal with kid Aquaman backstory though.
It makes perfect sense that a kid in an adult super body would be doing fortnite dances.
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Aquaman looks pretty meh, but Marvel could be decent. Not MCU-grade, but watchable (so infinitely better than the last several DC films). Could be the start of a good direction for DC movies, finally.
Shazam looked really good. The phone charging and "you're dead" were good, but holy shit do they need to delete the backpack kid dance from the real movie immediately, post haste.
Aquaman looked fine, bonus points for fighting crab people. Mera looks nice and whatever CGI they did to highlight her hair was working. Kinda don't want to deal with kid Aquaman backstory though.
It makes perfect sense that a kid in an adult super body would be doing fortnite dances.
Not a kid without a steady home, console or smart phone. But my nephews do it all the time so it was a cute moment.
Shazam looked really good. The phone charging and "you're dead" were good, but holy shit do they need to delete the backpack kid dance from the real movie immediately, post haste.
Aquaman looked fine, bonus points for fighting crab people. Mera looks nice and whatever CGI they did to highlight her hair was working. Kinda don't want to deal with kid Aquaman backstory though.
It makes perfect sense that a kid in an adult super body would be doing fortnite dances.
Not a kid without a steady home, console or smart phone. But my nephews do it all the time so it was a cute moment.
A kid that goes to a public school though, where he'd absolutely get exposed to that.
Being poor doesn't mean you have zero exposure to pop culture.
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I was watching videos about Final Fantasy and playing games in my high school computer lab twenty years ago, a kid attending modern public school would definitely likely have access to that stuff.
As a rule, kids are waaaay more proficient with technology than adults give them credit for.
Shazam looked really good. The phone charging and "you're dead" were good, but holy shit do they need to delete the backpack kid dance from the real movie immediately, post haste.
Aquaman looked fine, bonus points for fighting crab people. Mera looks nice and whatever CGI they did to highlight her hair was working. Kinda don't want to deal with kid Aquaman backstory though.
It makes perfect sense that a kid in an adult super body would be doing fortnite dances.
Not a kid without a steady home, console or smart phone. But my nephews do it all the time so it was a cute moment.
You think he's never gotten a round of Fortnite on a friend's phone? That seems pretty unlikely.
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I'm really digging the Shazam trailer. Pretty meh on the Aquaman trailer.
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Aquaman's trailer feels like it's trying to be Thor 1-3 in terms of plot, plus a prologue/series of flashback sequences a la Man of Steel. Tone seems to be about Thor 2 level. Could be good, but it seems really overstuffed.
From my perspective, Aquaman looks like a spectacle movie that if my friends said "hey, we're going to see Aquaman" I could go with them and not feel like it was a waste of money. Not necessarily a good movie, but probably worth the price of admission once for the big set pieces on a theater screen.
Shazam looks like Big with Superpowers. One of my earliest childhood memories is being with my parents in a theater watching Big, so it hits the right notes. But, it also doesn't seem like a movie that needs to be seen at a theater to fully experience. Probably more of a "wait for a rental" movie than a "go to the theater" movie for me.
Aquaman and Shazam both had impressive trailers. I liked Aquaman a bit more, Wan can do no wrong. That lightning bolt on Shazam's and Marvel's chests needs to be redone immediately. Zachary Levi looks up for the job for Captain Marvel, it's a pity Black Adam won't be in it. My speculation for Shazam is that
Ivo absorbed or duplicated Marvel's power to give it to himself.
aquaman is... meh? It seems like the kind of 'stranger in a strange land' origin that's been done a bunch of times in these films
but I dunno, I like Momoa so hopefully it's good
it was the smallest on the list but
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Shazam sold me. Zachary Levi and silly antics. I'm all in. I just hope the final product is as good as that trailer.
Also, why isn't Black Adam the villain? Don't they have Dwayne Johnson on retainer to play him? I would have loved to see Levi and Johnson acting opposite of each other.
Guess I'm in the minority. I loved Zack Levi in Chuck, but Shazam just seems too silly to me. It crossed that invisible line that I can't really define.
Meanwhile, Aquaman blew me away. I mean I know it's just classic no frills paint by numbers hero's journey and I certainly never expected to blown away by Aquaman, but that trailer hits all the right chords for me. Two Steps From Hell trailer music really sold it for me.
Guess I'm in the minority. I loved Zack Levi in Chuck, but Shazam just seems too silly to me. It crossed that invisible line that I can't really define.
Meanwhile, Aquaman blew me away. I mean I know it's just classic no frills paint by numbers hero's journey and I certainly never expected to blown away by Aquaman, but that trailer hits all the right chords for me. Two Steps From Hell trailer music really sold it for me.
Actually, that's only half of Two Steps. One Step, maybe.
Meanwhile Yeen Titans Go to the Movies is sitting at 10 positive reviews on RT. Here's hoping that sticks.
Teen Titans cartoon Director - We've got another hit on our hands!
DC - How Grim is it?
Cartoon Director - Not Grim at all! People keep loving it being such fun!
DC - Whats it about?
Caroon Director - Well, its a movie about how fun comic properties have a hard time making it to the big screen with DC, and just lightheartedly making fun about how a lot of these characters really are for little kids
DC - And, like, how many people does your team kill?
Cartoon Director - Err, none?
DC - Wow, eternal torture it is then! Thats super dark. And I bet this 'Starfire' is the cruelest of all! With her fire powers..
Cartoon Director - Wait, I think you are missing...
DC - I'm green lighting a live action show! I want it rated hard R, plenty of nudity, and lots of killing! Just the way you do best Teen Titans!
Shazam (the movie) looks cool. They cranked the dial wayyy in the opposite direction of Grimdark Murderkill, which is nice. Shazam (the character, or Captain Marvel, whatever the heck his name is) looks off to me, though. I don't have a problem with Zachary Levi, but it kind of just looks like Levi in a fake muscle suit walking around at comic con or something. It doesn't look like something from a big budget film.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Shazam's budget was relatively small. Which wouldn't necessarily stop the movie from being good, mind. Deadpool was in the same situation, and it went over like gangbusters.
Then again, Deadpool is Deadpool. Shazam doesn't have quite the hook, or following. I'll have to agree with whoever said the trailer looked encouraging but nothing you'd want to shell out at the movie theater for.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shazam's budget was relatively small. Which wouldn't necessarily stop the movie from being good, mind. Deadpool was in the same situation, and it went over like gangbusters.
Then again, Deadpool is Deadpool. Shazam doesn't have quite the hook, or following. I'll have to agree with whoever said the trailer looked encouraging but nothing you'd want to shell out at the movie theater for.
Shazam's 'hook' is hopefully that its a live action hero movie that both a 6 year old, a 16 year old, and a 36 year old can enjoy without any one of them feeling they are there solely to benefit the other. That doesn't mean 'a storyless mess for children' but that its a hopeful, uplifting story about doing the right thing, being brave, and learning to be a good person. Which is also solidly amusing and full of well shot (pleas for the love of pete keep the camera STILL) comic book action.
The one weakness that the DC universe has is that although kids clearly enjoy the movies, and kids are far more comfortable with sex, violence and death onscreen (and always have been) than adults give them credit for there isn't really a clear 'safe' onboarding point for parents to say "OK kids, here is where you, a 6 year old can join on to this franchise". Kids are left jumping onto secondary products and then just finding their way in from there. If DC is smart, they use Shazam as that onboarding point, a retarget the movies in a more hopeful and optimistic path going forward.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shazam's budget was relatively small. Which wouldn't necessarily stop the movie from being good, mind. Deadpool was in the same situation, and it went over like gangbusters.
Then again, Deadpool is Deadpool. Shazam doesn't have quite the hook, or following. I'll have to agree with whoever said the trailer looked encouraging but nothing you'd want to shell out at the movie theater for.
Shazam's 'hook' is hopefully that its a live action hero movie that both a 6 year old, a 16 year old, and a 36 year old can enjoy without any one of them feeling they are there solely to benefit the other. That doesn't mean 'a storyless mess for children' but that its a hopeful, uplifting story about doing the right thing, being brave, and learning to be a good person. Which is also solidly amusing and full of well shot (pleas for the love of pete keep the camera STILL) comic book action.
The one weakness that the DC universe has is that although kids clearly enjoy the movies, and kids are far more comfortable with sex, violence and death onscreen (and always have been) than adults give them credit for there isn't really a clear 'safe' onboarding point for parents to say "OK kids, here is where you, a 6 year old can join on to this franchise". Kids are left jumping onto secondary products and then just finding their way in from there. If DC is smart, they use Shazam as that onboarding point, a retarget the movies in a more hopeful and optimistic path going forward.
Well... betting on WB/DC being "smart" is a bad bet most of the time.
Also, IIRC, it might be too late by then. Isn't both Aquaman and Wonder Woman 2 both for release first? Not that either look too objectionable to kids, and WW2 does at least have people not expecting a dumpster fire. But if both of those are bad, I can see people mentally/emotionally/financially checking out before Shazam hits the cinema.
Batman from BvS to JL is just so jarring. He came this close to outright murdering Superman, and then suddenly "He was my best friend, I failed him. I wish he was here"
Like... what? My favorite bit was during the fight at the end
Batman, on a ledge mowing down aliens with a gun. Then Supes shows up and he just stands there smiling at him like a schoolgirl staring at her crush.
That was something else...
Though, I genuinely enjoyed Suicide Squad. Like, even more than Wonder Woman so I dunno... :rotate:
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so wait am i alone in not knowing that there is a standalone JOAQUIN PHOENIX joker movie coming out next year????
"I think the good movies work better. Somebody once said the best business strategy in motion pictures is quality," chairman of film at Warner Bros, Toby Emmerich mused.
"And I think in a world of Rotten Tomatoes and social media, what's been proven is the better the movie — particularly in the superhero genre — the better it performs. You can't hide the bacon anymore."
"the good movies work better" mindblowing realisations from warner bros this late in the game
so wait am i alone in not knowing that there is a standalone JOAQUIN PHOENIX joker movie coming out next year????
"I think the good movies work better. Somebody once said the best business strategy in motion pictures is quality," chairman of film at Warner Bros, Toby Emmerich mused.
"And I think in a world of Rotten Tomatoes and social media, what's been proven is the better the movie — particularly in the superhero genre — the better it performs. You can't hide the bacon anymore."
"the good movies work better" mindblowing realisations from warner bros this late in the game
.... so they're not making a standalone joker movie? No wait, excuse me, they're not making TWO standalone joker movies with two different jokers? Cause that really conflicts with the above quote.
so wait am i alone in not knowing that there is a standalone JOAQUIN PHOENIX joker movie coming out next year????
"I think the good movies work better. Somebody once said the best business strategy in motion pictures is quality," chairman of film at Warner Bros, Toby Emmerich mused.
"And I think in a world of Rotten Tomatoes and social media, what's been proven is the better the movie — particularly in the superhero genre — the better it performs. You can't hide the bacon anymore."
"the good movies work better" mindblowing realisations from warner bros this late in the game
oh my god your 95 years old as a studio how do you not get this i just my brain it hurts i think im bleeding from it pain pain pain black.
I'm not OK with a Joker origin movie. But if they're doing multiple Joker movies, possibly as "origins", that's not so bad (unless the movies suck... which is highly likely with DC...). It would fit with the character's "who the fuck knows where he came from" mysterious origin.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
Isn't the implication in that quote that they have no idea what quality is, and will release as many movies as possible and let the public figure out which ones are good?
I'm playing the Teen Titans Go Figure mobile game, and every woman in Metropolis is wearing a name tag that reads "Hi my name is Martha" when you challenge them to battle their name is listed as "a Martha" and when you defeat them they say "That's no way to treat a Martha!".
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Aquaman looked fine, bonus points for fighting crab people. Mera looks nice and whatever CGI they did to highlight her hair was working. Kinda don't want to deal with kid Aquaman backstory though.
It makes perfect sense that a kid in an adult super body would be doing fortnite dances.
But yeah, both of those trailers show promise.
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Not a kid without a steady home, console or smart phone. But my nephews do it all the time so it was a cute moment.
A kid that goes to a public school though, where he'd absolutely get exposed to that.
As a rule, kids are waaaay more proficient with technology than adults give them credit for.
You think he's never gotten a round of Fortnite on a friend's phone? That seems pretty unlikely.
Shazam looks like Big with Superpowers. One of my earliest childhood memories is being with my parents in a theater watching Big, so it hits the right notes. But, it also doesn't seem like a movie that needs to be seen at a theater to fully experience. Probably more of a "wait for a rental" movie than a "go to the theater" movie for me.
aquaman is... meh? It seems like the kind of 'stranger in a strange land' origin that's been done a bunch of times in these films
but I dunno, I like Momoa so hopefully it's good
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Also, why isn't Black Adam the villain? Don't they have Dwayne Johnson on retainer to play him? I would have loved to see Levi and Johnson acting opposite of each other.
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Meanwhile, Aquaman blew me away. I mean I know it's just classic no frills paint by numbers hero's journey and I certainly never expected to blown away by Aquaman, but that trailer hits all the right chords for me. Two Steps From Hell trailer music really sold it for me.
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Actually, that's only half of Two Steps. One Step, maybe.
Teen Titans cartoon Director - We've got another hit on our hands!
DC - How Grim is it?
Cartoon Director - Not Grim at all! People keep loving it being such fun!
DC - Whats it about?
Caroon Director - Well, its a movie about how fun comic properties have a hard time making it to the big screen with DC, and just lightheartedly making fun about how a lot of these characters really are for little kids
DC - And, like, how many people does your team kill?
Cartoon Director - Err, none?
DC - Wow, eternal torture it is then! Thats super dark. And I bet this 'Starfire' is the cruelest of all! With her fire powers..
Cartoon Director - Wait, I think you are missing...
DC - I'm green lighting a live action show! I want it rated hard R, plenty of nudity, and lots of killing! Just the way you do best Teen Titans!
I doubt they'll deliver, though.
Then again, Deadpool is Deadpool. Shazam doesn't have quite the hook, or following. I'll have to agree with whoever said the trailer looked encouraging but nothing you'd want to shell out at the movie theater for.
Shazam's 'hook' is hopefully that its a live action hero movie that both a 6 year old, a 16 year old, and a 36 year old can enjoy without any one of them feeling they are there solely to benefit the other. That doesn't mean 'a storyless mess for children' but that its a hopeful, uplifting story about doing the right thing, being brave, and learning to be a good person. Which is also solidly amusing and full of well shot (pleas for the love of pete keep the camera STILL) comic book action.
The one weakness that the DC universe has is that although kids clearly enjoy the movies, and kids are far more comfortable with sex, violence and death onscreen (and always have been) than adults give them credit for there isn't really a clear 'safe' onboarding point for parents to say "OK kids, here is where you, a 6 year old can join on to this franchise". Kids are left jumping onto secondary products and then just finding their way in from there. If DC is smart, they use Shazam as that onboarding point, a retarget the movies in a more hopeful and optimistic path going forward.
Also, IIRC, it might be too late by then. Isn't both Aquaman and Wonder Woman 2 both for release first? Not that either look too objectionable to kids, and WW2 does at least have people not expecting a dumpster fire. But if both of those are bad, I can see people mentally/emotionally/financially checking out before Shazam hits the cinema.
It was good enough for me to watch it again this past weekend.
I don't know what that says about me or the movie, but there it is...
I mean there are parts that are entertaining and the last act is a lot more solid than anything leading up to it.
As a whole it just felt unfinished.
Like... what? My favorite bit was during the fight at the end
Though, I genuinely enjoyed Suicide Squad. Like, even more than Wonder Woman so I dunno... :rotate:
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"the good movies work better" mindblowing realisations from warner bros this late in the game
.... so they're not making a standalone joker movie? No wait, excuse me, they're not making TWO standalone joker movies with two different jokers? Cause that really conflicts with the above quote.
oh my god your 95 years old as a studio how do you not get this i just my brain it hurts i think im bleeding from it pain pain pain black.