Don’t even reboot, just have Clark turn off the branding scene on the huge bat-monitor and turn to Bruce.
“These are terrible! Who funds these things?”
“It’s no coincidence Lex Corps. snapped up that film company. Let’s go have a chat with Luther.”
I'm not sure that the general audience would buy it, but I think it's an awesome take that the terrible movies are mostly propoganda by LutherCorp. Though it would be hard to justify them making Lex look like a raging dickhead in BvS.
But it'd easily explain why the new Batman and Superman don't look like the previous ones. Cause the previous ones were just 'actors'.
Honestly, if they were to try and recover the franchise by pitching the current group as the Justice Lords and we get a good DCU from them invading the Justice League dimension, that would legit be a pretty incredible maneuver and I would watch it in a heartbeat.
Especially if it has a bit with an awesome Luthor beating up the lame Luthor for his lunch money, while the Justice League stands around watching because they really aren't sure what the situation calls for.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Wonder Woman '84 is pushed back from November 1, 2019 to June 5, 2020.
Something something lines up with release date of the original movie summer blockbuster but it could have done just as well in November too.
But Phoenix's Joker movie is still scheduled for October of '19.
But now I'm thinking about Idris Elba in the role, so that's not all bad. Not that he'd be able to do much with how stupid every movie Luthor role has been.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
The Joker movie (you know, the Joaquin Phoenix one, not the 47 Jared Leto ones in the works) has cast Bruce Wayne and Alfred Pennyworth, because fuck it, it's pretty much Gotham: the TV show: the movie already.
This might be a testing the waters kind of thing, where if it does well we could get an OG Titans show.
Or maybe it'll just be a fun one-off a la the times the Ninja Turtles meet different versions of themselves.
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This is Grace Randolph so grain of salt because youtube nerd hype, but she's been better than John Campea. Supposedly the real reason for the WW84 delay is to make the film take in some Flashpoint elements and be a soft reboot of the DCEU to be somewhat like Days of Future Past was for the X-Men movies.
There's some iffy stuff, and I laugh that Flashpoint is iconic or classic (Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men is iconic then), but we've already seen Steve Trevor being in 1984 for some reason so there seems to exist the time travel element already.
This might be a testing the waters kind of thing, where if it does well we could get an OG Titans show.
Or maybe it'll just be a fun one-off a la the times the Ninja Turtles meet different versions of themselves.
Do they need to? Teen Titans has been proven to be a successful cartoon years back, and the appetite for the franchise has been maintained through various cartoons like Young Justice and Teen Titans Go. I don't think they would need to proof of concept to get that green lit.
This is Grace Randolph so grain of salt because youtube nerd hype, but she's been better than John Campea. Supposedly the real reason for the WW84 delay is to make the film take in some Flashpoint elements and be a soft reboot of the DCEU to be somewhat like Days of Future Past was for the X-Men movies.
There's some iffy stuff, and I laugh that Flashpoint is iconic or classic (Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men is iconic then), but we've already seen Steve Trevor being in 1984 for some reason so there seems to exist the time travel element already.
Christ. You don't have to Flashpoint all your other movies to reboot things! Just make a movie with a different script direction and different actors! No one was confused as to why Nolan's Batman didn't have Schumaker's Bat-nipples! The time you're spending explaining why you're less murdery is time you could be spending making a better movie!
...why is it that WB has so little respect for comic books yet is slavishly devoted to the details in comic books?
Christ. You don't have to Flashpoint all your other movies to reboot things! Just make a movie with a different script direction and different actors! No one was confused as to why Nolan's Batman didn't have Schumaker's Bat-nipples! The time you're spending explaining why you're less murdery is time you could be spending making a better movie!
...why is it that WB has so little respect for comic books yet is slavishly devoted to the details in comic books?
Because it doesn't understand that Marvel/Disney's success is based on good characters and direction first and all the continuity stuff is the icing on top.
WB thinks all it needs is the icing without remembering you need to bake a proper cake first.
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I realize they have set it up completely differently, but Marvel is about to us time travel as well
Christ. You don't have to Flashpoint all your other movies to reboot things! Just make a movie with a different script direction and different actors! No one was confused as to why Nolan's Batman didn't have Schumaker's Bat-nipples! The time you're spending explaining why you're less murdery is time you could be spending making a better movie!
...why is it that WB has so little respect for comic books yet is slavishly devoted to the details in comic books?
This only works if it's a plug pull, something that I see as being essential to the well being of a stable DCEU.
The catch with doing so though, is that you need to effectively dustbin everything you've done up to this point.
This is Grace Randolph so grain of salt because youtube nerd hype, but she's been better than John Campea. Supposedly the real reason for the WW84 delay is to make the film take in some Flashpoint elements and be a soft reboot of the DCEU to be somewhat like Days of Future Past was for the X-Men movies.
There's some iffy stuff, and I laugh that Flashpoint is iconic or classic (Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men is iconic then), but we've already seen Steve Trevor being in 1984 for some reason so there seems to exist the time travel element already.
This is Grace Randolph so grain of salt because youtube nerd hype, but she's been better than John Campea. Supposedly the real reason for the WW84 delay is to make the film take in some Flashpoint elements and be a soft reboot of the DCEU to be somewhat like Days of Future Past was for the X-Men movies.
There's some iffy stuff, and I laugh that Flashpoint is iconic or classic (Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men is iconic then), but we've already seen Steve Trevor being in 1984 for some reason so there seems to exist the time travel element already.
But time travel, *shudder*
It can't make things any worse at this juncture.
time travel always makes things worse
unless it's in a comedy
Only all those other times. This time I'm sure it'll turn out well!
(Time travel radically improved Marty McFly's life, and that of his family. Eventually.)
And for all that they whine about it causing disaster on The Flash, it has at least averted a tsunami and magical nuke, so I'd take the tradeoff that their personal lives sucked a bit more in return for them still having their lives.
I realize they have set it up completely differently, but Marvel is about to us time travel as well
Yeah, when I realized that Marvel was about to pull a Flashpoint on us before DC did actual Flashpoint (in film, anyway--and the TV version was all right but didn't live up to the potential of the premise) and probably do it better...
Pretty much all of these youtubers claiming to have to sources are BS. And Grace Randolph is one of the worst, peddling that idiotic Disney paying for anti-DC campaign conspiracy theory.
They'll keep rebooting the movies starting from scratch, have 3 different jokers, yet the TV shows aren't allowed to use certain characters because they might get confused by multiple iterations of the same character according to the movie side. Awesome. Just awesome.
They'll keep rebooting the movies starting from scratch, have 3 different jokers, yet the TV shows aren't allowed to use certain characters because they might get confused by multiple iterations of the same character according to the movie side. Awesome. Just awesome.
Yeah, I know it's a little petty, but I held some resentment for Suicide Squad after they killed off Arrowverse Deadshot because of it. Because Michael Rowe did an awesome job IMO, and didn't deserve to have a job axed because the movie division are incompetent assholes.
Not that Suicide Squad needed my resentment for that. It was more than capable of earning that all on it's own.
Jettisoning Smith would be a really good idea since he was less deadshot in the last movie and more "will smith with guns and a shitty eyepiece."
And Will Smith basically just plays Will Smith, so either someone at WB wanted that to be the character or just didn't care and wanted a big name star.
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I read that in the voices of Tim Daly and Kevin Conroy.
Honestly, if they were to try and recover the franchise by pitching the current group as the Justice Lords and we get a good DCU from them invading the Justice League dimension, that would legit be a pretty incredible maneuver and I would watch it in a heartbeat.
Especially if it has a bit with an awesome Luthor beating up the lame Luthor for his lunch money, while the Justice League stands around watching because they really aren't sure what the situation calls for.
Something something lines up with release date of the original movie summer blockbuster but it could have done just as well in November too.
But Phoenix's Joker movie is still scheduled for October of '19.
But now I'm thinking about Idris Elba in the role, so that's not all bad. Not that he'd be able to do much with how stupid every movie Luthor role has been.
If they wanted to really surprise people, he could kill Bruce instead, and set up Earth #whatever number it is where it's Thomas as Batman.
In a stunning twist, Joaquin plays Martha Wayne.
Now now, we don't know he's going to be boring yet
https://youtu.be/AwDIZT3XbjQ
Or maybe it'll just be a fun one-off a la the times the Ninja Turtles meet different versions of themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbsDpFMXB_8
There's some iffy stuff, and I laugh that Flashpoint is iconic or classic (Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men is iconic then), but we've already seen Steve Trevor being in 1984 for some reason so there seems to exist the time travel element already.
But time travel, *shudder*
Do they need to? Teen Titans has been proven to be a successful cartoon years back, and the appetite for the franchise has been maintained through various cartoons like Young Justice and Teen Titans Go. I don't think they would need to proof of concept to get that green lit.
It can't make things any worse at this juncture.
Then the Flash movie is just all of those scenes stitched together.
...why is it that WB has so little respect for comic books yet is slavishly devoted to the details in comic books?
Because it doesn't understand that Marvel/Disney's success is based on good characters and direction first and all the continuity stuff is the icing on top.
WB thinks all it needs is the icing without remembering you need to bake a proper cake first.
This only works if it's a plug pull, something that I see as being essential to the well being of a stable DCEU.
The catch with doing so though, is that you need to effectively dustbin everything you've done up to this point.
time travel always makes things worse
unless it's in a comedy
Only all those other times. This time I'm sure it'll turn out well!
(Time travel radically improved Marty McFly's life, and that of his family. Eventually.)
And for all that they whine about it causing disaster on The Flash, it has at least averted a tsunami and magical nuke, so I'd take the tradeoff that their personal lives sucked a bit more in return for them still having their lives.
Yeah, when I realized that Marvel was about to pull a Flashpoint on us before DC did actual Flashpoint (in film, anyway--and the TV version was all right but didn't live up to the potential of the premise) and probably do it better...
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You can get anything into a dolphin if you try hard enough.
Just ask a male dolphin.
Its not going to be a sequel, but an "entirely new take". Which means that they are rebooting Suicide Squad for a do-over with James Gunn.
New actors? At least keep Robbie and Smith.
Yeah, I know it's a little petty, but I held some resentment for Suicide Squad after they killed off Arrowverse Deadshot because of it. Because Michael Rowe did an awesome job IMO, and didn't deserve to have a job axed because the movie division are incompetent assholes.
Not that Suicide Squad needed my resentment for that. It was more than capable of earning that all on it's own.
And Will Smith basically just plays Will Smith, so either someone at WB wanted that to be the character or just didn't care and wanted a big name star.