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AG Jeff Sessions has resigned at President Trumps request, announced via twitter.

ViskodViskod Registered User regular
edited November 2018 in Debate and/or Discourse
Trump just indirectly fired Jeff Session over twitter.

We are pleased to announce that Matthew G. Whitaker, Chief of Staff to Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the Department of Justice, will become our new Acting Attorney General of the United States. He will serve our Country well....
....We thank Attorney General Jeff Sessions for his service, and wish him well! A permanent replacement will be nominated at a later date.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Was Sessions told about this before hand?

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Going by Trumps record, probably not.

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    rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    Regular as clockwork.

    Hope Mueller can put a bow on what he's been doing. He'll be out before the new congress is in.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Was Sessions told about this before hand?

    Yes he submitted a letter

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    So, did Trump actually file the proper paperwork this time?

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Trump requested the resignation so it was a firing.

    CNN reporter with the resignation letter:

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Sessions had know this was coming for awhile. Still surprised they wasted no time.

    Guve us a few days to relax, you asshole.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    If that letter were true, wouldn't that mean that violent crime would need to be near its apex under Trump?

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    mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Is this Trump trying to get people to stop talking about the midterms ASAP?

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    m!ttensm!ttens he/himRegistered User regular
    "Wednesday Afternoon Massacre" just doesn't have the same ring to it that Nixon's massacre did.

    Hump Day AG Bump Day?

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    TachTach Registered User regular
    Fuck. This is seriously not good. Expected, but still not good.

    Over/under on when Mueller is fired?

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    So, how much will Mueller have unsealed Friday now you think?

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Is this Trump trying to get people to stop talking about the midterms ASAP?

    This is Trump trying to kill the Mueller investigation before he releases the results post-election

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    This seems generally ominous, especially because it's, oh I don't know, the day after the goddamn election.

    Also Jr. is expecting to be indicted soon, apparently.

    But this is all coincidence, I'm sure.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    I figured Trump would at least wait a few days before getting rid of Sessions.

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    So, does this mean we are going for firing Mueller before the new congress?

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Viskod was warned for this.
    Well, no more indictments for Mueller and his reports will never be public. Roger Stone and Don Jr have been saved.

    So It Goes on
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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Good thing the House can hire Mueller after January 3rd.

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    I wanted a single day where I could relax. Sigh.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    So, does this mean we are going for firing Mueller before the new congress?

    IIRC even if you move to shut the investigation down they get like six months or something to wrap things up, right?

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited November 2018


    Lawrence Tribe (a Harvard Law professor) says that the new interim AG will take oversight of the muller investigation from rosenstein

    presumably to kill it

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    This is technically not a break-glass moment for the Mueller/Rosenstein firing protests, but it's definitely a stand-ready one.

    I guess we knew this was coming for a long time, still feels like a surprise.

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    moniker wrote: »
    Good thing the House can hire Mueller after January 3rd.

    You are assuming he is fired and not just sabotaged.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    moniker wrote: »
    Good thing the House can hire Mueller after January 3rd.

    I don't think the House has the power to bring indictments (except contempt of Congress I guess)

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    So, does this mean we are going for firing Mueller before the new congress?

    IIRC even if you move to shut the investigation down they get like six months or something to wrap things up, right?

    30 days.

    If you are going with the norms.

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    OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    So, does this mean we are going for firing Mueller before the new congress?

    IIRC even if you move to shut the investigation down they get like six months or something to wrap things up, right?

    People have been saying 30 days, but I’ve personally never seen actual statutory evidence for that.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Good thing the House can hire Mueller after January 3rd.

    I don't think the House has the power to bring indictments (except contempt of Congress I guess)

    According to DOJ neither does DOJ.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Tach wrote: »
    Fuck. This is seriously not good. Expected, but still not good.

    Over/under on when Mueller is fired?

    About 15 minutes after Rosenstein, give or take however long it takes to identify a willing toady.

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    Ah. An impending constitutional crisis in the United States. Lovely.

    I know there were big protests planned if Sessions was fired, but what happens now that he (probably) bowed out himself instead?

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    to give some context to the interim AG's positions, have a gander at this CNN op-ed he wrote last year

    Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far by Matthew Whitaker, who now is ostensibly Muller's boss

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Theres going to be a lot of fuckery over the next couple weeks during the lame duck.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Dehumanized wrote: »


    Lawrence Tribe (a Harvard Law professor) says that the new interim AG will take oversight of the muller investigation from rosenstein

    presumably to kill it

    So Mueller will probably be fired today

    cool

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    IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Desktop Hippie wrote: »
    Ah. An impending constitutional crisis in the United States. Lovely.

    I know there were big protests planned if Sessions was fired, but what happens now that he (probably) bowed out himself instead?

    I mean, it was at Trump's request, so he didn't /really/

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Desktop Hippie wrote: »
    Ah. An impending constitutional crisis in the United States. Lovely.

    I know there were big protests planned if Sessions was fired, but what happens now that he (probably) bowed out himself instead?

    No, that's him being fired. It just means someone near Trump knows how the forced resignation game works.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Desktop Hippie wrote: »
    Ah. An impending constitutional crisis in the United States. Lovely.

    I know there were big protests planned if Sessions was fired, but what happens now that he (probably) bowed out himself instead?

    Protests are for Mueller getting fired.

    Since Whitaker isn't recused, he can end the Mueller investigation right away, right?

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    I guess the question is: why? What can the house do that would impact this

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    OneAngryPossum wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    So, does this mean we are going for firing Mueller before the new congress?

    IIRC even if you move to shut the investigation down they get like six months or something to wrap things up, right?

    People have been saying 30 days, but I’ve personally never seen actual statutory evidence for that.

    Again, this is if his investigation is going to be ended or he is going to be fired. This is not what will happen. Whittaker will just deny any further indictments, and bury Muellers reports.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Desktop Hippie wrote: »
    Ah. An impending constitutional crisis in the United States. Lovely.

    I know there were big protests planned if Sessions was fired, but what happens now that he (probably) bowed out himself instead?

    Sessions firing wasn't one of the protest moments, it stops short at Rosenstein.

    And either way, a forced resignation is the equivalent of a firing for our puposes.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    And here we are, the constitutional crisis.

    So say Mueller gets fired during the lame duck. Can the House re-open things in Jan?

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    OneAngryPossum wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    So, does this mean we are going for firing Mueller before the new congress?

    IIRC even if you move to shut the investigation down they get like six months or something to wrap things up, right?

    People have been saying 30 days, but I’ve personally never seen actual statutory evidence for that.

    Again, this is if his investigation is going to be ended or he is going to be fired. This is not what will happen. Whittaker will just deny any further indictments, and bury Muellers reports.

    House can request the reports though.

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