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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

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  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Yes! Your boss or HR should be addressing it.

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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Bucketman wrote: »
    oh no

    we moved desks

    i shoulda asked to stay sitting next to person i was sitting with before

    new person next to me has um hm
    some BO issues hm

    and there is no polite way to handle this tbh
    i'm not gonna say anything i'm too scared

    oh no

    When I worked at the movie theater one of our employees had BO issues. Sweetheart of a guy, but he smelled so bad. When I got promoted the first thing the other managers made me do was talk to him about it because none of them wanted to. One of the other managers was his best friend but no, make the new guy do it.

    Sadly it only got better in fits, we'd talk to him, he'd get better for a month or two.

    Now he is a manager there and some friends that still work there tell me that he tends to leave a...residue on things he touches.

    i asked a coworker if there was a polite way to deal with someone who has bad BO, and he apparently immediately knew who i was talking about, which is a bad sign

    can i just uh tell HR and make them deal with it
    or my boss

    agh there are no good solutions are there

    At an old job someone had a very bad odour and his boss ended up talking to him about it and the guy started crying and I basically swore from then on that I would rather put up with the odour than make someone cry by telling them they smell.

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  • DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    oh no

    we moved desks

    i shoulda asked to stay sitting next to person i was sitting with before

    new person next to me has um hm
    some BO issues hm

    and there is no polite way to handle this tbh
    i'm not gonna say anything i'm too scared

    oh no

    When I worked at the movie theater one of our employees had BO issues. Sweetheart of a guy, but he smelled so bad. When I got promoted the first thing the other managers made me do was talk to him about it because none of them wanted to. One of the other managers was his best friend but no, make the new guy do it.

    Sadly it only got better in fits, we'd talk to him, he'd get better for a month or two.

    Now he is a manager there and some friends that still work there tell me that he tends to leave a...residue on things he touches.

    i asked a coworker if there was a polite way to deal with someone who has bad BO, and he apparently immediately knew who i was talking about, which is a bad sign

    can i just uh tell HR and make them deal with it
    or my boss

    agh there are no good solutions are there

    Talking with co-workers or subordinates about BO or just odors is one of the hardest things to do because it is such a personal issue that the other person may or may not be aware of and if they are aware of it, then it could be some embarrassing physical or medical condition.

    One of my former bosses went to a HR type course once where the topic came up and the example the instructor used was a fellow with extremely bad BO who had gone nose blind to it, so wasn't aware of how bad it was. Long story short, the manager sat down with him and somehow found out that it was due to the guy's clothes which he left sitting in the washer for days at a time where they would develop mold. That is one of the easy ones as it is a lot harder to talk to someone if they have bad gas or sweat a lot or use "essential oils" that just plain stink since some of those don't have easy solutions, or the solutions are attacks on one of their beliefs.

    I believe the takeaway from that section of the course was to have a superior approach the issue with empathy and understanding, but to bring it up so that you don't have some passive aggressive jerk leaving deodorant on their desk or stuff like that. Make sure the other person is aware of the issue and find some kind of way to address it if at all possible.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    We have a guy that we'd called Old Spice Guy for years. If you rode an elevator after him you could get a contact cologning that would attract senior citizens for at least 2 hours. Fortunately they put him in the middle of our open office and I think that was the final straw and they spoke to him about it.

  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    I see it as you do

    i don't understand why such an email would ever be well received

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    When the time comes to hire your next Voggo Specialist and you go cross-eyed looking at 27 resumes that are all pretty damned similar, Barry Pibblesworth's name might jump out when you see it and remember "Oh yeah, that dude reached out a few months ago, maybe he actually, really wants to work here."

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    It's an older generation thing that I still see a lot where people above a certain age think 'just walking into a business and handing the manager your resume' is a good way to get an interview. You don't see it as much now, but it's still advice given by people over a certain age who thinks milennials not getting work is entirely due to laziness on their part.

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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Bobble wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    When the time comes to hire your next Voggo Specialist and you go cross-eyed looking at 27 resumes that are all pretty damned similar, Barry Pibblesworth's name might jump out when you see it and remember "Oh yeah, that dude reached out a few months ago, maybe he actually, really wants to work here."

    In the event that I remembered his name, I would honestly probably disqualify him to be honest. It would be much better for Barry Pibblesworth if I don't remember that he ever applied.

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  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    We had a coworker who had an issue with BO. It was amazing since his BO would directly coordinate with his happiness at work, as in the worse he felt he was being treated the more likely we’d be dealing with serious funk throughout the office. It was apparently something medical with him that he could control.

    Several complaints were made to our local HR, and just as they were about to bring the hammer down on him he complained to corporate that HR was not being accommodating to his disability.

    So up until the day he quit he would punish the office for his low morale, and local HR couldn’t do a thing about it.

  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    Also, if you're aware of a place where you'd like to work, and it seems reasonable that they'd use your skills, sending in your resume in the hopes that they'd see how useful you are is not bat-shit crazy. I think it would be a very low success rate, but hey, that's job hunting.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    that's the kind of very oldschool job hunting tactic that's endorsed by people who haven't actually looked for a new job in at least twenty years

    like uh, following up on an interview or application because it "shows initiative" whereas every hiring manager ever says "please do not do this, it is very annoying and shows you can't follow directions"

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I should start doing letters like that.

    "Dear Company,
    Yesterday I followed one of your trucks. The driver was going 32mph over the speed limit, ran 2 stop signs by driving and taking nude selfies, nearly hit a gaggle of nuns and then double parked your company branded car in front of the strip club and left it idling for 2 hours. I am a telematics account manager and if you hire me, I would be happy to slap him with power of reliable, easy to understand GPS reporting.
    Sincerely, Lindsay Lohan."

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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Shorty wrote: »
    that's the kind of very oldschool job hunting tactic that's endorsed by people who haven't actually looked for a new job in at least twenty years

    like uh, following up on an interview or application because it "shows initiative" whereas every hiring manager ever says "please do not do this, it is very annoying and shows you can't follow directions"

    That's interesting, I saw research that said hiring managers prefer a follow up, preferably between 2-3 weeks.

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  • mcpmcp Registered User regular
    We have two elevators in this building.

    One of them has tape across it and a big out of order sign.

    They didn't disable it though, so when you press the button the door opens. Every time. The system won't move to the other one.

    :rotate:

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  • Drake ChambersDrake Chambers Lay out my formal shorts. Registered User regular
    I have an otherwise awesome coworker who has hideous bad breath. If you're in a car with him it fills the interior to the degree that if you sit behind him you're still not safe.

    I am resigned to never be able to do anything about it.

  • N1tSt4lkerN1tSt4lker Registered User regular
    Daimar wrote: »
    Bucketman wrote: »
    oh no

    we moved desks

    i shoulda asked to stay sitting next to person i was sitting with before

    new person next to me has um hm
    some BO issues hm

    and there is no polite way to handle this tbh
    i'm not gonna say anything i'm too scared

    oh no

    When I worked at the movie theater one of our employees had BO issues. Sweetheart of a guy, but he smelled so bad. When I got promoted the first thing the other managers made me do was talk to him about it because none of them wanted to. One of the other managers was his best friend but no, make the new guy do it.

    Sadly it only got better in fits, we'd talk to him, he'd get better for a month or two.

    Now he is a manager there and some friends that still work there tell me that he tends to leave a...residue on things he touches.

    i asked a coworker if there was a polite way to deal with someone who has bad BO, and he apparently immediately knew who i was talking about, which is a bad sign

    can i just uh tell HR and make them deal with it
    or my boss

    agh there are no good solutions are there

    Talking with co-workers or subordinates about BO or just odors is one of the hardest things to do because it is such a personal issue that the other person may or may not be aware of and if they are aware of it, then it could be some embarrassing physical or medical condition.

    One of my former bosses went to a HR type course once where the topic came up and the example the instructor used was a fellow with extremely bad BO who had gone nose blind to it, so wasn't aware of how bad it was. Long story short, the manager sat down with him and somehow found out that it was due to the guy's clothes which he left sitting in the washer for days at a time where they would develop mold. That is one of the easy ones as it is a lot harder to talk to someone if they have bad gas or sweat a lot or use "essential oils" that just plain stink since some of those don't have easy solutions, or the solutions are attacks on one of their beliefs.

    I believe the takeaway from that section of the course was to have a superior approach the issue with empathy and understanding, but to bring it up so that you don't have some passive aggressive jerk leaving deodorant on their desk or stuff like that. Make sure the other person is aware of the issue and find some kind of way to address it if at all possible.

    This literally made my whole body cringe.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    I did notice that his coat smells a lot

    It wasn't a thing i noticed until today after moving desks, but another coworker mentioned it to me too

    I chatted with my friend who works in HR at another company, and says smelly people is a thing that comes up and she has to address

    Hmph

    Ideally one of my more tactful coworkers will say something before I do, otherwise I'm gonna have to go the HR route because I'm a coward

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    that's the kind of very oldschool job hunting tactic that's endorsed by people who haven't actually looked for a new job in at least twenty years

    like uh, following up on an interview or application because it "shows initiative" whereas every hiring manager ever says "please do not do this, it is very annoying and shows you can't follow directions"

    That's interesting, I saw research that said hiring managers prefer a follow up, preferably between 2-3 weeks.

    The advice hiring managers give to prospective applicants seems to widely vary, based on how annoying they personally finds each step of the hiring process. If they hate reading resumes, they're going to tell you to make your resume incredibly short. If they hate receiving follow-ups, they're going to tell you not to do them.

    Most advice given by hiring managers seems not centered at all around finding the best candidate, but rather 'what makes specifically my life easier?'

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    Our stores are still open, but I said I didn’t feel safe driving (I have a Prius-C, haha) and they were fine with me not coming in. My assistant phoned me and said he wasn’t going to go in either.

    Working from home with kids is virtually impossible, but I am checking my emails just to make sure nothing urgent comes up (like needing to transfer bank funds!) and have shot off a couple myself so upper management knows I’m doing my best.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    Literally the worst thing, and is consistent for getting bad hires by a ton of studies, yet still pushed by that sort of lazy "back in my day we walked in and demanded a job" career services places and self help books written by out of touch Baby Boomers.

    Most companies now have a jobs website to counteract this, as cold calls for employment are almost consistently a nightmare in the US for employers.

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I think I'd rather have a stinky coworker than have to smell essential oils and hear about how it solved someone's back problems.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion The Land of Flowers (and Dragons)Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Javen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    that's the kind of very oldschool job hunting tactic that's endorsed by people who haven't actually looked for a new job in at least twenty years

    like uh, following up on an interview or application because it "shows initiative" whereas every hiring manager ever says "please do not do this, it is very annoying and shows you can't follow directions"

    That's interesting, I saw research that said hiring managers prefer a follow up, preferably between 2-3 weeks.

    The advice hiring managers give to prospective applicants seems to widely vary, based on how annoying they personally finds each step of the hiring process. If they hate reading resumes, they're going to tell you to make your resume incredibly short. If they hate receiving follow-ups, they're going to tell you not to do them.

    Most advice given by hiring managers seems not centered at all around finding the best candidate, but rather 'what makes specifically my life easier?'

    YMMV, but our state guidelines for us pretty much say "use the paper stage, and what is in the interviews, and refuse all contact" to keep the search process fair to all candidates. This is pretty common in the public sector for businesses of scale, as well.

    Follow-ups and cold-calls don't really matter, and probably hurt you, for all but small business hires. Hiring around litigation laws for fair employment means you really have to give equal facetime, and that follow-up often is considered face-time when it comes it litigation if you reply in any meaningful way.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    also the more standards and criteria you have for hiring should potentially help to reduce your personal biases etc
    so i feel like things like that kind of an email are playing to things like how receptive you are to people like that, rather than qualifications etc

    i dunno though i'm not a hiring manager, i just interview people and tell them my rating

    poo
  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    I think I'd rather have a stinky coworker than have to smell essential oils and hear about how it solved someone's back problems.

    BO bothers me much, much less than the smell of essential oils.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    i haven't sat at my desk all day today because of it though which tbh isn't ideal

    poo
  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Daimar wrote: »
    Bucketman wrote: »
    oh no

    we moved desks

    i shoulda asked to stay sitting next to person i was sitting with before

    new person next to me has um hm
    some BO issues hm

    and there is no polite way to handle this tbh
    i'm not gonna say anything i'm too scared

    oh no

    When I worked at the movie theater one of our employees had BO issues. Sweetheart of a guy, but he smelled so bad. When I got promoted the first thing the other managers made me do was talk to him about it because none of them wanted to. One of the other managers was his best friend but no, make the new guy do it.

    Sadly it only got better in fits, we'd talk to him, he'd get better for a month or two.

    Now he is a manager there and some friends that still work there tell me that he tends to leave a...residue on things he touches.

    i asked a coworker if there was a polite way to deal with someone who has bad BO, and he apparently immediately knew who i was talking about, which is a bad sign

    can i just uh tell HR and make them deal with it
    or my boss

    agh there are no good solutions are there

    Talking with co-workers or subordinates about BO or just odors is one of the hardest things to do because it is such a personal issue that the other person may or may not be aware of and if they are aware of it, then it could be some embarrassing physical or medical condition.

    One of my former bosses went to a HR type course once where the topic came up and the example the instructor used was a fellow with extremely bad BO who had gone nose blind to it, so wasn't aware of how bad it was. Long story short, the manager sat down with him and somehow found out that it was due to the guy's clothes which he left sitting in the washer for days at a time where they would develop mold. That is one of the easy ones as it is a lot harder to talk to someone if they have bad gas or sweat a lot or use "essential oils" that just plain stink since some of those don't have easy solutions, or the solutions are attacks on one of their beliefs.

    I believe the takeaway from that section of the course was to have a superior approach the issue with empathy and understanding, but to bring it up so that you don't have some passive aggressive jerk leaving deodorant on their desk or stuff like that. Make sure the other person is aware of the issue and find some kind of way to address it if at all possible.

    Yeah I found out my guy's issue was similar to this, he was working 2 jobs at the time and couldn't afford to do laundry and also didn't want to run the water to keep the bill down.

    Hes been promoted and is making a lot more money now so I have no idea why its still a problem if that was the real reason.

  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    now i'm reading HR articles about this

    my productivity is disrupted

    okay i'll just not sit at my desk a few days, see what happens, and then address it if it's still bad

    poo
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Whether it is a good idea to follow up or not, or send in your resume without them having an open position or not, is basically straight up luck as far as I can tell

    What's the right thing to do? Depends on what mood the person hiring you is in

    Because job hunting sucks all of the shit in the whole world and everyone hates it for good reason, outside of corporate management sociopaths with smiles that contain too many teeth and regularly updated linkedin profiles

    And I'm relatively convinced they're not people anyway just some sort of fucking alien parasite that we picked up somewhere as a species

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I'd probably say my biggest gripe with job hunting is cover letters.

    I continuously hear that hiring managers find them useful but it is one of my least favorite things to do in the universe.

    Here's a page of me trying to sell you on me? Time for me to brag for a page about how awesome I am? I thought that my resume was designed to do that?

    I guess I can't say cover letters are the least favorite thing.

    That belongs to personality quizzes.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    that's the kind of very oldschool job hunting tactic that's endorsed by people who haven't actually looked for a new job in at least twenty years

    like uh, following up on an interview or application because it "shows initiative" whereas every hiring manager ever says "please do not do this, it is very annoying and shows you can't follow directions"

    That's interesting, I saw research that said hiring managers prefer a follow up, preferably between 2-3 weeks.

    that's weird

    you know, I bet this is one of those things that varies a lot based on field and compensation level

  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    I have an otherwise awesome coworker who has hideous bad breath. If you're in a car with him it fills the interior to the degree that if you sit behind him you're still not safe.

    I am resigned to never be able to do anything about it.

    Do ... Do you work with me?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    It's more of an outdated practice that gets "recommended" by older folks who really don't understand how the modern market works. And no, your response is right on the money because cold calling is not how you job hunt.

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    This isn't a frowned upon thing in the land arch industry, I've sent out spec letters before to practices and my year out in industry job came about because of this where they kept my portfolio on file and a few weeks later they had someone hand their notice in and I filled the gap. I don't think I'd do this again as a non student unless I heard a practice had just won a new bid where they'd possibly want to take more staff on or I knew they were growing and heard their workload was too heavy for the current number of staff via the land arch grapevine.

    However, in landscape architecture there's a skill shortage and employers are desperate to get new people into so they're much more likely to want to keep someone's portfolio on file.

    If you take pure architecture the industry is very oversaturated in comparison to land arch and I imagine a speculative portfolio is less likely to be kept on file because they'll have so, so many applicants that they don't want to sort through and store all that nonsense.

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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Shorty wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    that's the kind of very oldschool job hunting tactic that's endorsed by people who haven't actually looked for a new job in at least twenty years

    like uh, following up on an interview or application because it "shows initiative" whereas every hiring manager ever says "please do not do this, it is very annoying and shows you can't follow directions"

    That's interesting, I saw research that said hiring managers prefer a follow up, preferably between 2-3 weeks.

    that's weird

    you know, I bet this is one of those things that varies a lot based on field and compensation level

    Probably, and like other people said it's probably the luck of the drawer what kind of person you get.

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    Zonugal wrote: »
    I'd probably say my biggest gripe with job hunting is cover letters.

    I continuously hear that hiring managers find them useful but it is one of my least favorite things to do in the universe.

    Here's a page of me trying to sell you on me? Time for me to brag for a page about how awesome I am? I thought that my resume was designed to do that?

    I guess I can't say cover letters are the least favorite thing.

    That belongs to personality quizzes.

    I ain't even give a fuck about cover letters any more. I used to find them really hard but after a few years copywriting I'll knock out a cover letter in five minutes that'll have you inviting me to the christening of your first born. Other things that got knocked out of me: any reticence about arbitrarily describing myself as "passionate" about absurd job concepts that no one is passionate about.

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
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    I'd probably say my biggest gripe with job hunting is cover letters.

    I continuously hear that hiring managers find them useful but it is one of my least favorite things to do in the universe.

    Here's a page of me trying to sell you on me? Time for me to brag for a page about how awesome I am? I thought that my resume was designed to do that?

    I guess I can't say cover letters are the least favorite thing.

    That belongs to personality quizzes.

    I ain't even give a fuck about cover letters any more. I used to find them really hard but after a few years copywriting I'll knock out a cover letter in five minutes that'll have you inviting me to the christening of your first born. Other things that got knocked out of me: any reticence about arbitrarily describing myself as "passionate" about absurd job concepts that no one is passionate about.

    My biggest hangup is how disingenuous it all feels.

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    I have an otherwise awesome coworker who has hideous bad breath. If you're in a car with him it fills the interior to the degree that if you sit behind him you're still not safe.

    I am resigned to never be able to do anything about it.

    Do ... Do you work with me?

    Maybe? My door is open now - look for the office with Epic Handshake in chalk just inside the entrance.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Writing a good resume/cover letters is all about lying in ways people can’t prove later.

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    PSA: if your job involves negotiating contracts and you send a contract with "remove personal information on save" checked, you are making the redlining process harder and I hate you.

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