Why would they make 3/4 of the monsters in the movie?
I genuinely don't understand that
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GreasyKidsStuffMOMMM!ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered Userregular
Too big/complicated/costly? He is a fair bit bigger than Godzilla.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Why would they make 3/4 of the monsters in the movie?
I genuinely don't understand that
Couple of guesses.
Firstly, a in-scale Ghidorah would be quite large, requiring basically a new sizeclass all to himself. NECA has done large figures before, so that's not an issue. My guess, though, is they don't think he'd sell enough at that higher pricepoint, based on how other Godzilla figures have sold. (NECA has only done one Godzilla figure that wasn't 6" tall, and that was back in 2014)
Secondly, Ghidorah is a realy odd duck. He basically has five tail-like appendages (two actual tails and then his three snake-heads). NECA typically do tails as bendable wires encased in, rubberized plastic I think? These are a much cheaper method than jointing up the tail (like a MonsterArts figure would) but the wires eventually wear out. With a tail, you can get away with that because you won't be posing it THAT much. With Ghidorah's snake heads, though, good luck. Either they go with longevity and really crank up the price; or they go cheap and people wind up with expensive Ghidorah figures that wear out after a few years (unless you just refuse to touch them.)
Also, this is the first time they've done non-Godzilla figures for this line; they might just be waiting to see how well they sell before comitting to a larger and more expensive figure.
So they posted an official version of the TV spot (Same spoiler warning applies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihhSmk4sXE8) and I may have just pieced something together based on something I saw pointed out
So when the mountain explodes into a Kaiju, there's a brief bit where it turns into "footage" with
"Monarch Outpost 67,
Munich, Germany"
in the bottom right hand corner.
Ignoring that there may be 67 (or more) monarch outposts, if you go to http://www.monarchsciences.com there's the locations of Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah, and a bunch of other sites that aren't clickable because they're classified (There's also a bunch of twitter stuff, but lets ignore that)
There's a site right where Munich would be. There are like 16 of these classified sites, and if each one wound up being a kaiju....
It's weird because I'm a big Marvel fan, but I find myself way more excited for King of Monsters than I am for Avengers. Like, I wanna get a big group together to see it so we can cheer when Godzilla wrecks Ghidorah because that's what the whole theater did in the last movie and it was awesome.
So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.
Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
North & South America
Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)
Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland
Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest
Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:
Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island
Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?
Peru, Otishi National Park
Europe
Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?
Munich, Germany -
Location of unknown mountain kaiju
Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park
Africa
Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?
Sudan, somewhere along the Nile
Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.
Isreal, near the Dead Sea
Asia & Austrailia
Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest
Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
How fucking big is Ghidorah going to be
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.
Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
North & South America
Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)
Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland
Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest
Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:
Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island
Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?
Peru, Otishi National Park
Europe
Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?
Munich, Germany -
Location of unknown mountain kaiju
Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park
Africa
Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?
Sudan, somewhere along the Nile
Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.
Isreal, near the Dead Sea
Asia & Austrailia
Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest
Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close
So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.
Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
North & South America
Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)
Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland
Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest
Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:
Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island
Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?
Peru, Otishi National Park
Europe
Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?
Munich, Germany -
Location of unknown mountain kaiju
Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park
Africa
Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?
Sudan, somewhere along the Nile
Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.
Isreal, near the Dead Sea
Asia & Austrailia
Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest
Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close
Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
Godzilla vs The Mummy?
Imagine if the Sphinx is merely a marker for the resting place of the real thing.
So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.
Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
North & South America
Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)
Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland
Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest
Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:
Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island
Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?
Peru, Otishi National Park
Europe
Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?
Munich, Germany -
Location of unknown mountain kaiju
Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park
Africa
Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?
Sudan, somewhere along the Nile
Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.
Isreal, near the Dead Sea
Asia & Austrailia
Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest
Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close
Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
Godzilla vs The Mummy?
Imagine if the Sphinx is merely a marker for the resting place of the real thing.
I like how the Sphinx has become a mythological creature even though it probably only exists because some asshole ruler saw a bigass lion statue and told his followers to carve his head into its head.
If here is a Sphinx kaiju, I hope it doesn't have a humanish face.
Found a comparison shot of MonsterArts Ghidorah and Godzilla. He's a biggun
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Holy fuck balls that is imposing
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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darunia106J-bob in gamesDeath MountainRegistered Userregular
So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.
Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
North & South America
Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)
Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland
Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest
Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:
Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island
Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?
Peru, Otishi National Park
Europe
Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?
Munich, Germany -
Location of unknown mountain kaiju
Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park
Africa
Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?
Sudan, somewhere along the Nile
Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.
Isreal, near the Dead Sea
Asia & Austrailia
Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest
Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close
Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
Godzilla vs The Mummy?
Imagine if the Sphinx is merely a marker for the resting place of the real thing.
I like how the Sphinx has become a mythological creature even though it probably only exists because some asshole ruler saw a bigass lion statue and told his followers to carve it's head into his head.
If here is a Sphinx kaiju, I hope it doesn't have a humanish face.
Although that part where the tail lights lead up through the dark to his head is pretty fantastic, IMO.
Oh brilliant
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HeatwaveCome, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered Userregular
You have to understand that no one was expecting the 2014 Godzilla to even have atomic breath.
The last Western Godzilla was terrible and most peoples expectations were probably low.
So when all of a sudden his tail starts glowing, audiences were like "is he really going to do the thing? Oh shit it's fucking happening! Even that unnamed faceless solider can't believe he's seeing the atomic breath."
I reflexively elbowed my wife in the side and said "oh shit here it comes" with an almost giddy note to my voice. Not quite loud enough to annoy nearby movie goes but it was close.
The A plot of Godzilla hunting down the MUTOS was good. It did a good job a casting these creatures less as monsters to be destroyed and more like forces of nature.
The B plot of bland soldier man trying to get home to whisk his family to safety was bad. Because it was almost entirely incidental to the A plot. And in the end he fails. The son nearly dies on the bridge and the wife is danger when monsters stomp on her hospital.
He could have just as easily during one of their several phone calls said "There's a big monster making it's way to San Francisco. Get out of town ASAP I'll find you."
Instead he says "something is happening. Stay put and I'll come and take you to safety." He wanted to be the hero an in the process put his family in even more danger
The real hero was the bus driver who just gunned it with that bus full of kids. Fuck you Army guys and your tanks I'm trying to take these children somewhere safe!
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Guess we're gonna have to wait awhile to get a Ghidorah. Mothra is also TIIIIINNNYYY
I had assumed they were referring to the "reveal it tomorrow" portion, but it was ambiguous, so someone asked specifically
Super bummed about that. Not sure I want to grab these now, as I'm not sure I'll be able to shake the feeling of the series being "incomplete."
Also probably puts a nail in the coffin of ever getting the MUTO's.
Why would they make 3/4 of the monsters in the movie?
I genuinely don't understand that
Ah, the Ridley excuse.
Couple of guesses.
Firstly, a in-scale Ghidorah would be quite large, requiring basically a new sizeclass all to himself. NECA has done large figures before, so that's not an issue. My guess, though, is they don't think he'd sell enough at that higher pricepoint, based on how other Godzilla figures have sold. (NECA has only done one Godzilla figure that wasn't 6" tall, and that was back in 2014)
Secondly, Ghidorah is a realy odd duck. He basically has five tail-like appendages (two actual tails and then his three snake-heads). NECA typically do tails as bendable wires encased in, rubberized plastic I think? These are a much cheaper method than jointing up the tail (like a MonsterArts figure would) but the wires eventually wear out. With a tail, you can get away with that because you won't be posing it THAT much. With Ghidorah's snake heads, though, good luck. Either they go with longevity and really crank up the price; or they go cheap and people wind up with expensive Ghidorah figures that wear out after a few years (unless you just refuse to touch them.)
Looks like Rodan is definitely not on Ghidorah's side.
Also slightly more footage of the two unknown kaiju bursting out of the ground. That mountain shot is fantastic.
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So they posted an official version of the TV spot (Same spoiler warning applies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihhSmk4sXE8) and I may have just pieced something together based on something I saw pointed out
"Monarch Outpost 67,
Munich, Germany"
in the bottom right hand corner.
Ignoring that there may be 67 (or more) monarch outposts, if you go to http://www.monarchsciences.com there's the locations of Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah, and a bunch of other sites that aren't clickable because they're classified (There's also a bunch of twitter stuff, but lets ignore that)
There's a site right where Munich would be. There are like 16 of these classified sites, and if each one wound up being a kaiju....
Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)
Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland
Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest
Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:
Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island
Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?
Peru, Otishi National Park
Europe
Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?
Munich, Germany -
Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park
Africa
Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?
Sudan, somewhere along the Nile
Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.
Isreal, near the Dead Sea
Asia & Austrailia
Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest
Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close
Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
Is there one that's more than 30 seconds
They either mean the already existing trailer, or the's a new one coming, but the's not an existing new one at the moment.
Frrrrrrt
At least there is this
Give me a Gigan, dammit!
His body is about the size of Godzilla, then he has three big neck/heads and two huge wings.
For comparison, the MonsterArts 2019 Godzilla is $70 and 16 cm tall. Meanwhile Ghidorah is like $180, at 25cm tall with a 60cm wingspan.
He's fucking enormous.
Isn't that the one with the supporting structure for the wings because they won't stay up on their own?
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If here is a Sphinx kaiju, I hope it doesn't have a humanish face.
I can see why NECA isn't putting out their own version. Thing would easily be more than $100 for a line of $25 action figures.
Give us the MUTOs then, you cowards!
EDIT: I did the math; if those are to scale, Ghidorah is going to be nearly 600 feet tall in the movie.
But all the monster bits were great and the Godzilla parts were amazing
So if King of Monsters can at least do the same then it'll be a success in my eyes
In the mean time I'll just keep rewatching this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdJITgE-2Ik
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https://youtu.be/23aj7dbFyJw
Although that part where the tail lights lead up through the dark to his head is pretty fantastic, IMO.
The last Western Godzilla was terrible and most peoples expectations were probably low.
So when all of a sudden his tail starts glowing, audiences were like "is he really going to do the thing? Oh shit it's fucking happening! Even that unnamed faceless solider can't believe he's seeing the atomic breath."
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I didn't just like it, I'd call it a genuinely good movie
There's only three Godzilla movies I consider good in that way
The B plot of bland soldier man trying to get home to whisk his family to safety was bad. Because it was almost entirely incidental to the A plot. And in the end he fails. The son nearly dies on the bridge and the wife is danger when monsters stomp on her hospital.
He could have just as easily during one of their several phone calls said "There's a big monster making it's way to San Francisco. Get out of town ASAP I'll find you."
Instead he says "something is happening. Stay put and I'll come and take you to safety." He wanted to be the hero an in the process put his family in even more danger
"Genuinely good" in this case is an experiential descriptor, not an objective one