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Godzilla and other, less important Kaiju

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    NECA finally revealed their KotM figures. Looks like we're getting

    -Godzilla
    -Mothra
    -Rodan
    -Another Godzilla :razz:

    Guess we're gonna have to wait awhile to get a Ghidorah. :( Mothra is also TIIIIINNNYYY

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    NECA posted this in response to thier lack of Ghidorah



    I had assumed they were referring to the "reveal it tomorrow" portion, but it was ambiguous, so someone asked specifically



    Super bummed about that. Not sure I want to grab these now, as I'm not sure I'll be able to shake the feeling of the series being "incomplete."

    Also probably puts a nail in the coffin of ever getting the MUTO's.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    That is super weird

    Why would they make 3/4 of the monsters in the movie?

    I genuinely don't understand that

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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    Too big/complicated/costly? He is a fair bit bigger than Godzilla.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Too big/complicated/costly? He is a fair bit bigger than Godzilla.

    Ah, the Ridley excuse.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    That is super weird

    Why would they make 3/4 of the monsters in the movie?

    I genuinely don't understand that

    Couple of guesses.

    Firstly, a in-scale Ghidorah would be quite large, requiring basically a new sizeclass all to himself. NECA has done large figures before, so that's not an issue. My guess, though, is they don't think he'd sell enough at that higher pricepoint, based on how other Godzilla figures have sold. (NECA has only done one Godzilla figure that wasn't 6" tall, and that was back in 2014)

    Secondly, Ghidorah is a realy odd duck. He basically has five tail-like appendages (two actual tails and then his three snake-heads). NECA typically do tails as bendable wires encased in, rubberized plastic I think? These are a much cheaper method than jointing up the tail (like a MonsterArts figure would) but the wires eventually wear out. With a tail, you can get away with that because you won't be posing it THAT much. With Ghidorah's snake heads, though, good luck. Either they go with longevity and really crank up the price; or they go cheap and people wind up with expensive Ghidorah figures that wear out after a few years (unless you just refuse to touch them.)

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    They’ve certainly made larger kaiju before, several of the Pacific Rim Kaiju are gigantic in comparison to the Jaegers and Godzilla figures

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Also, this is the first time they've done non-Godzilla figures for this line; they might just be waiting to see how well they sell before comitting to a larger and more expensive figure.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    New TV spot with some additional footage. I'd recommend skipping this one as it has a bit of a spoiler
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrb8PitaCU

    Looks like Rodan is definitely not on Ghidorah's side.

    Also slightly more footage of the two unknown kaiju bursting out of the ground. That mountain shot is fantastic.

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    HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
    New TV spot with some additional footage. I'd recommend skipping this one as it has a bit of a spoiler
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrb8PitaCU

    Looks like Rodan is definitely not on Ghidorah's side.

    Also slightly more footage of the two unknown kaiju bursting out of the ground. That mountain shot is fantastic.
    I want to watch this right now!

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Oh SHIT!

    So they posted an official version of the TV spot (Same spoiler warning applies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihhSmk4sXE8) and I may have just pieced something together based on something I saw pointed out
    So when the mountain explodes into a Kaiju, there's a brief bit where it turns into "footage" with

    "Monarch Outpost 67,
    Munich, Germany"

    in the bottom right hand corner.

    Ignoring that there may be 67 (or more) monarch outposts, if you go to http://www.monarchsciences.com there's the locations of Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah, and a bunch of other sites that aren't clickable because they're classified (There's also a bunch of twitter stuff, but lets ignore that)

    There's a site right where Munich would be. There are like 16 of these classified sites, and if each one wound up being a kaiju....

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    SmurphSmurph Registered User regular
    It's weird because I'm a big Marvel fan, but I find myself way more excited for King of Monsters than I am for Avengers. Like, I wanna get a big group together to see it so we can cheer when Godzilla wrecks Ghidorah because that's what the whole theater did in the last movie and it was awesome.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.

    Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
    North & South America

    Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)

    Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland

    Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest

    Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:

    Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island

    Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?

    Peru, Otishi National Park

    Europe
    Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?

    Munich, Germany -
    Location of unknown mountain kaiju

    Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park

    Africa
    Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?

    Sudan, somewhere along the Nile

    Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.

    Isreal, near the Dead Sea

    Asia & Austrailia
    Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest

    Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close

    Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    What do they mean by "see the full trailer online"

    Is there one that's more than 30 seconds

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    What do they mean by "see the full trailer online"

    Is there one that's more than 30 seconds

    They either mean the already existing trailer, or the's a new one coming, but the's not an existing new one at the moment.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    How fucking big is Ghidorah going to be

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    How fucking big is Ghidorah going to be

    His body is about the size of Godzilla, then he has three big neck/heads and two huge wings.

    For comparison, the MonsterArts 2019 Godzilla is $70 and 16 cm tall. Meanwhile Ghidorah is like $180, at 25cm tall with a 60cm wingspan.

    He's fucking enormous.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.

    Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
    North & South America

    Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)

    Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland

    Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest

    Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:

    Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island

    Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?

    Peru, Otishi National Park

    Europe
    Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?

    Munich, Germany -
    Location of unknown mountain kaiju

    Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park

    Africa
    Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?

    Sudan, somewhere along the Nile

    Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.

    Isreal, near the Dead Sea

    Asia & Austrailia
    Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest

    Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close

    Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
    Godzilla vs The Mummy?

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    How fucking big is Ghidorah going to be

    His body is about the size of Godzilla, then he has three big neck/heads and two huge wings.

    For comparison, the MonsterArts 2019 Godzilla is $70 and 16 cm tall. Meanwhile Ghidorah is like $180, at 25cm tall with a 60cm wingspan.

    He's fucking enormous.

    Isn't that the one with the supporting structure for the wings because they won't stay up on their own?

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.

    Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
    North & South America

    Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)

    Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland

    Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest

    Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:

    Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island

    Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?

    Peru, Otishi National Park

    Europe
    Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?

    Munich, Germany -
    Location of unknown mountain kaiju

    Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park

    Africa
    Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?

    Sudan, somewhere along the Nile

    Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.

    Isreal, near the Dead Sea

    Asia & Austrailia
    Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest

    Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close

    Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
    Godzilla vs The Mummy?
    Imagine if the Sphinx is merely a marker for the resting place of the real thing.

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    Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    If I didn't live in a small apartment, I'd get a bookshelf the MonsterArts Ghidorah and Godzilla.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.

    Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
    North & South America

    Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)

    Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland

    Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest

    Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:

    Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island

    Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?

    Peru, Otishi National Park

    Europe
    Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?

    Munich, Germany -
    Location of unknown mountain kaiju

    Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park

    Africa
    Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?

    Sudan, somewhere along the Nile

    Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.

    Isreal, near the Dead Sea

    Asia & Austrailia
    Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest

    Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close

    Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
    Godzilla vs The Mummy?
    Imagine if the Sphinx is merely a marker for the resting place of the real thing.
    I like how the Sphinx has become a mythological creature even though it probably only exists because some asshole ruler saw a bigass lion statue and told his followers to carve his head into its head.

    If here is a Sphinx kaiju, I hope it doesn't have a humanish face.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Found a comparison shot of MonsterArts Ghidorah and Godzilla. He's a biggun

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Holy fuck balls that is imposing

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So I went through the Monarch Sciences webpage and tried to get better beads on where all those classified locations are. It's hard because you can't zoom in so well, so I had to really eyeball it. Here's what I came up with.

    Spoilers in case you don't want to have "Was this a location from that map" in your mind when you watch the movie.
    North & South America

    Arizona, north-east of Phoenix (Between the Tonto National Forest and the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest)

    Somewhere between South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska; possibly the Thunder Basin National Grassland

    Georgia, southeast of Atlanta, possibly the Oconee National Forest

    Burmuda, almost certainly the Bermuda triangle. :razz:

    Middle of the Pacific, I’m guessing this is Skull Island

    Columbia, maybe near Cerro Torra?

    Peru, Otishi National Park

    Europe
    Scotland, has GOT to be Loch Ness, right?

    Munich, Germany -
    Location of unknown mountain kaiju

    Western Russia, possibly Yugyd Va National Park

    Africa
    Morocco, south of Gibraltar, north of the city of Meknes, perhaps?

    Sudan, somewhere along the Nile

    Egypt, almost right on Cairo, likely near Giza.

    Isreal, near the Dead Sea

    Asia & Austrailia
    Cambodia, north-west of the Roniem Forest

    Japan, I think they’re aiming for Mt. Fuji rather than Tokyo, but it’s close

    Austraila, near the Watarrka National Park
    Godzilla vs The Mummy?
    Imagine if the Sphinx is merely a marker for the resting place of the real thing.
    I like how the Sphinx has become a mythological creature even though it probably only exists because some asshole ruler saw a bigass lion statue and told his followers to carve it's head into his head.

    If here is a Sphinx kaiju, I hope it doesn't have a humanish face.
    That would make for a very strange creature.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Godzilla looks so tiny in comparison!

    I can see why NECA isn't putting out their own version. Thing would easily be more than $100 for a line of $25 action figures.

    Give us the MUTOs then, you cowards!

    EDIT: I did the math; if those are to scale, Ghidorah is going to be nearly 600 feet tall in the movie.

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    MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Holy hell. Those wings look big enough that they actually could provide lift for him.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Godzilla vs Kong has been moved up a few months to March 13, 2020, so we won't have to quite wait another year for the next film after KotM.

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    HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
    The 2014 Legendary Godzilla movie wasn't a very good film

    But all the monster bits were great and the Godzilla parts were amazing

    So if King of Monsters can at least do the same then it'll be a success in my eyes

    In the mean time I'll just keep rewatching this scene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdJITgE-2Ik

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Is that the Breath scene in Godzilla 2014 that everyone talks about? It's kinda underwhelming.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    It is not. This is;

    https://youtu.be/23aj7dbFyJw

    Although that part where the tail lights lead up through the dark to his head is pretty fantastic, IMO.

    Oh brilliant
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    HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
    You have to understand that no one was expecting the 2014 Godzilla to even have atomic breath.

    The last Western Godzilla was terrible and most peoples expectations were probably low.

    So when all of a sudden his tail starts glowing, audiences were like "is he really going to do the thing? Oh shit it's fucking happening! Even that unnamed faceless solider can't believe he's seeing the atomic breath."

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I really liked 2014 Godzilla

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    I reflexively elbowed my wife in the side and said "oh shit here it comes" with an almost giddy note to my voice. Not quite loud enough to annoy nearby movie goes but it was close.

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I really liked 2014 Godzilla

    I didn't just like it, I'd call it a genuinely good movie

    There's only three Godzilla movies I consider good in that way

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    What makes a movie genuinely good, exactly? What are the validation criteria for a movie?

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    SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    The A plot of Godzilla hunting down the MUTOS was good. It did a good job a casting these creatures less as monsters to be destroyed and more like forces of nature.

    The B plot of bland soldier man trying to get home to whisk his family to safety was bad. Because it was almost entirely incidental to the A plot. And in the end he fails. The son nearly dies on the bridge and the wife is danger when monsters stomp on her hospital.

    He could have just as easily during one of their several phone calls said "There's a big monster making it's way to San Francisco. Get out of town ASAP I'll find you."

    Instead he says "something is happening. Stay put and I'll come and take you to safety." He wanted to be the hero an in the process put his family in even more danger

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    SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    The real hero was the bus driver who just gunned it with that bus full of kids. Fuck you Army guys and your tanks I'm trying to take these children somewhere safe!

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    What makes a movie genuinely good, exactly? What are the validation criteria for a movie?

    "Genuinely good" in this case is an experiential descriptor, not an objective one

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