Hopefully no one has been injured or killed, it's Holy Week for Catholics (Palm Sunday, which was yesterday, through Easter Sunday) and Notre Dame is already a huge tourist attraction, so I have to assume there were a lot of people around.
Wild for it to have survived through events as massive and chaotic as the French Revolution and both World Wars without suffering enough damage to be totally written off, only to seemingly have been totally gutted by fire on a random Monday in 2019.
by all reports the fire was an accident, caused by work being done on the roof area somehow
If we were putting bets down I'd wager on poorly-executed flashing installation. It wouldn't be the first cathedral to burn down to it.
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Fuck.
While not wholly focused on the structure, Lindsay Ellis's essay on The Hunchback of Notre Dame touches on why the structure has survived till even now.. and how important it is.
I can't even imagine what they'll do when the fire's done. Like.. do they try to rebuild? Leave what's left as a tourist attraction?
Honestly? I don't see any way they don't rebuild.
Probably leave the original cornerstone, or if any sections of it have enough of the framework in-tact, leave it as the "original" section. Rebuild the remainder as close to original as possible.
It took almost three hundred years to build Notre Dame, and it has stood for almost seven hundred years now. It's almost incomprehensible that it is just burning down now, without any way to stop it.
by all reports the fire was an accident, caused by work being done on the roof area somehow
If we were putting bets down I'd wager on poorly-executed flashing installation. It wouldn't be the first cathedral to burn down to it.
flashing installation?
is that something used for welding?
Flashing is the metal bits along seams on a roof. On a regular house you can have single pieces, but on something as large as the cathedral they'd have to join the pieces in place, which a while back caused another cathedral to smoke and then catch.
They could have also been using torches or tar or something, but that's such an obvious mistake I can't imagine they made it (and also don't know if their roof would require it).
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It took almost three hundred years to build Notre Dame, and it has stood for almost seven hundred years now. It's almost incomprehensible that it is just burning down now, without any way to stop it.
To be fair, the 300 year build time was due to the cost and knowledge of building materials and so on and so forth. A modern reconstruction of a gothic cathedral should go much, much faster, especially if the French gov't and its people get behind it.
I can't even imagine what they'll do when the fire's done. Like.. do they try to rebuild? Leave what's left as a tourist attraction?
The french are very invested in the building as one of the most important cultural landmarks in Paris and I would not be surprised if they spend a lot of money to rebuild and restore it as much as they can.
It took almost three hundred years to build Notre Dame, and it has stood for almost seven hundred years now. It's almost incomprehensible that it is just burning down now, without any way to stop it.
To be fair, the 300 year build time was due to the cost and knowledge of building materials and so on and so forth. A modern reconstruction of a gothic cathedral should go much, much faster, especially if the French gov't and its people get behind it.
Oh, no doubt. I'm endlessly awestruck that they were able to built it at all with the technology they had at the time. With today's building techniques, it could be rebuilt fairly quickly, but it will never be the same wonder.
I can't imagine "notre dame is good and should be rebuilt" is anything other than a deeply-held conviction by virtually every French person
The only thing I worry about is views on religion are shifting around the globe right now.. but I also believe Notre Dame can transcend that, due to its position as a symbol of the French people and their strength.
I don't think they'll rebuild. The cost of even repairing a historical building like this is astronomical, I would imagine they will keep what remains as a museum to the history but I don't think they'll be rebuilding.
It took almost three hundred years to build Notre Dame, and it has stood for almost seven hundred years now. It's almost incomprehensible that it is just burning down now, without any way to stop it.
To be fair, the 300 year build time was due to the cost and knowledge of building materials and so on and so forth. A modern reconstruction of a gothic cathedral should go much, much faster, especially if the French gov't and its people get behind it.
Oh, no doubt. I'm endlessly awestruck that they were able to built it at all with the technology they had at the time. With today's building techniques, it could be rebuilt fairly quickly, but it will never be the same wonder.
Why can't it be? The Alamo is a major tourist attraction and cultural icon in Texas despite the fact that the vast majority of it had to be completely rebuilt after it was destroyed. Whether a building is in its original form or not, once it has become a symbol it will always be as it is, even if it's completely razed to the ground and rebuilt time and again. It won't stop being the Cathedral of Notre Dame
Was there just last September and will be there again in late August this year. The idea that Notre Dame won't be there is a weird one to try and process. Will be curious to see what is going on by that time with the site.
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that looks...a lot worse than the headlines suggested
Holy shit
the entire roof has collapsed
and it looks like the interior blaze is massive as well
the place might get gutted
this is incredibly tragic
Oh no, that’s terrible.
Officially deemed an accident, looks like.
If we were putting bets down I'd wager on poorly-executed flashing installation. It wouldn't be the first cathedral to burn down to it.
While not wholly focused on the structure, Lindsay Ellis's essay on The Hunchback of Notre Dame touches on why the structure has survived till even now.. and how important it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIIWy3TZ1eI
It sounds like it's going to be a total loss.
flashing installation?
is that something used for welding?
Honestly? I don't see any way they don't rebuild.
Probably leave the original cornerstone, or if any sections of it have enough of the framework in-tact, leave it as the "original" section. Rebuild the remainder as close to original as possible.
Tony Jay's song from the Disney movie is going to be tough to listen to now
Flashing is the metal bits along seams on a roof. On a regular house you can have single pieces, but on something as large as the cathedral they'd have to join the pieces in place, which a while back caused another cathedral to smoke and then catch.
They could have also been using torches or tar or something, but that's such an obvious mistake I can't imagine they made it (and also don't know if their roof would require it).
To be fair, the 300 year build time was due to the cost and knowledge of building materials and so on and so forth. A modern reconstruction of a gothic cathedral should go much, much faster, especially if the French gov't and its people get behind it.
The french are very invested in the building as one of the most important cultural landmarks in Paris and I would not be surprised if they spend a lot of money to rebuild and restore it as much as they can.
Oh, no doubt. I'm endlessly awestruck that they were able to built it at all with the technology they had at the time. With today's building techniques, it could be rebuilt fairly quickly, but it will never be the same wonder.
The only thing I worry about is views on religion are shifting around the globe right now.. but I also believe Notre Dame can transcend that, due to its position as a symbol of the French people and their strength.
Why can't it be? The Alamo is a major tourist attraction and cultural icon in Texas despite the fact that the vast majority of it had to be completely rebuilt after it was destroyed. Whether a building is in its original form or not, once it has become a symbol it will always be as it is, even if it's completely razed to the ground and rebuilt time and again. It won't stop being the Cathedral of Notre Dame
fuck
I didn't know the foundations and framework were made out of wood.
Whelp.
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