Is the CZ-11 based on a SLBM? The launch looks really, really similar to what you'd expect to see from a sub missile.
Some ground based silo launched missiles launch similarly. Think it's to protect the engines. Basically shoot it out like a bullet, discard a protective engine cover then fire it up in mid air. Here's a Dnepr (converted SS-18 icbm) launch.
Maintaining their usual levels of ambition from the last few years, the Indian Space Research Organization announced today (n.b., mildly annoying news site) that they're planning to build and launch a space station by 2030. The plan seems to be deployments of several weeks at a time to start, and for it to be an entirely domestic project - the ISRO is increasingly big on its independence and tends to avoid international projects when they can.
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Maintaining their usual levels of ambition from the last few years, the Indian Space Research Organization announced today (n.b., mildly annoying news site) that they're planning to build and launch a space station by 2030. The plan seems to be deployments of several weeks at a time to start, and for it to be an entirely domestic project - the ISRO is increasingly big on its independence and tends to avoid international projects when they can.
Whilst conceptually cool, it's pretty crazy that a nation where ~31% of it's citizens can't read is planning on building a space station.
Will that 31% really know (or care) that the station even exists once it is built? They're probably too busy trying to get access to basic sanitation or escape systemic poverty.
Is the CZ-11 based on a SLBM? The launch looks really, really similar to what you'd expect to see from a sub missile.
Some ground based silo launched missiles launch similarly. Think it's to protect the engines. Basically shoot it out like a bullet, discard a protective engine cover then fire it up in mid air. Here's a Dnepr (converted SS-18 icbm) launch.
Maintaining their usual levels of ambition from the last few years, the Indian Space Research Organization announced today (n.b., mildly annoying news site) that they're planning to build and launch a space station by 2030. The plan seems to be deployments of several weeks at a time to start, and for it to be an entirely domestic project - the ISRO is increasingly big on its independence and tends to avoid international projects when they can.
Whilst conceptually cool, it's pretty crazy that a nation where ~31% of it's citizens can't read is planning on building a space station.
Will that 31% really know (or care) that the station even exists once it is built? They're probably too busy trying to get access to basic sanitation or escape systemic poverty.
I've heard this crazy theory that a country with over a billion citizens is capable of working on at least three things at once.
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Oh, I know. I'm not saying they shouldn't build it (I love space; I want more humans in space, from all nations, we all benefit), it's just a particularly iconic example of the tremendous socio-economic disparity that exists in Indian society.
Not every out there project can succeed, at least Stratolaunch had one flight.
Meanwhile, Antonov's An-225 is still flying after +30 years of pretty continuous service, the demolishing of its original payload, and its owner country being dissolved. Truly, we live in the worse timeline.
(No, not really. But I was genuinely expecting Stratolaunch...and the Stratolaunch company...to use this thing for at least a few years.)
Not every out there project can succeed, at least Stratolaunch had one flight.
Meanwhile, Antonov's An-225 is still flying after +30 years of pretty continuous service, the demolishing of its original payload, and its owner country being dissolved. Truly, we live in the worse timeline.
(No, not really. But I was genuinely expecting Stratolaunch...and the Stratolaunch company...to use this thing for at least a few years.)
Allen's untimely death most likely took the wind out of their sails, and with nobody to fill the void...
The lesson here is that succession planning is important.
At 11:30 pm EDT SpaceX will be attempting to launch their 3rd Falcon Heavy with the various payloads of the STP-2 mission atop it. This will be a very challenging launch from the perspective of landing the center booster, with the drone ship over 1200 km's downrange and from the perspective of payload deployment, with the second stage being required to do four separate burns over the course of six hours or so.
Center core missed the drone ship live on the broadcast. Side boosters landed back at the Cape without issues.
I watched this from 20-25 miles away to the south, this FH was absolutely hauling ass at the start of the launch. Should be some neat pictures of the center stage core lighting up the exhaust from the two side boosters
edit: to give a bit more context for those who can't watch a clip later: The barge was something like 600+ miles off the coast, far enough out that the sky was already starting to brighten, and the center core had to do a 3-engine burn instead of the normal burn because of how hot it was coming in. I'd hazard a guess that the odds probably weren't in favor of this one no matter how hard they tried.
edit2: Watching again, they might have purposefully missed due to something else going wrong on the decent. It veers way off to one side and is tilted over pretty far when it hits
Center core missed the drone ship live on the broadcast. Side boosters landed back at the Cape without issues.
I watched this from 20-25 miles away to the south, this FH was absolutely hauling ass at the start of the launch. Should be some neat pictures of the center stage core lighting up the exhaust from the two side boosters
edit: to give a bit more context for those who can't watch a clip later: The barge was something like 600+ miles off the coast, far enough out that the sky was already starting to brighten, and the center core had to do a 3-engine burn instead of the normal burn because of how hot it was coming in. I'd hazard a guess that the odds probably weren't in favor of this one no matter how hard they tried.
edit2: Watching again, they might have purposefully missed due to something else going wrong on the decent. It veers way off to one side and is tilted over pretty far when it hits
I mean, its always aimed somewhat off, and this was definitely a stretch to catch the middle core here. I'll have to watch the video though, this one sounds like a good one to watch.
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The infrared shot of the booster coming in looks super cool. I feel like that's way more detail than I normally notice on a typical shot.
Edit edit: Yeah, it looks like they had already centered their suicide slam, and probably decided they were going too fast. It looks like it tilted itself over to try and get as far a way from the drone ship as possible, cause the last time it impacted the water at high velocity right next to the ship, the ship was out of service for months.
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2nd burn changed inclination while the 3rd burn raised its orbit and changed orbit inclination. So on the 4th burn all the energy went to forward momentum to circularize orbit since inclination was already set.
It's too bad about the center core, maybe the fourth try will be the charm.
So NASA settled on its next big decadal mission and after narrowing it down from a number of proposals they settled on the obvious one.
If things go well by 2034 we'll have an autonomous nuclear-powered drone helicopter gallivanting around the most flight-friendly environment in the solar system.
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I’m not a fan of nominal flight abort tests. I personally think they should be testing the system by simulating a rocket failure and seeing how the automated response works. And by ‘simulating’ I mean strapping a block of C4 with a remote detonator to a structural member, or something else important.
If these fireworks are gonna be my only real protection against a RUD event, I want them tested as close as possible to that. That’s how they test aircraft engines after all…
I’m not a fan of nominal flight abort tests. I personally think they should be testing the system by simulating a rocket failure and seeing how the automated response works. And by ‘simulating’ I mean strapping a block of C4 with a remote detonator to a structural member, or something else important.
If these fireworks are gonna be my only real protection against a RUD event, I want them tested as close as possible to that. That’s how they test aircraft engines after all…
Test nominal for baseline, then test catastrophic.
I’m not a fan of nominal flight abort tests. I personally think they should be testing the system by simulating a rocket failure and seeing how the automated response works. And by ‘simulating’ I mean strapping a block of C4 with a remote detonator to a structural member, or something else important.
If these fireworks are gonna be my only real protection against a RUD event, I want them tested as close as possible to that. That’s how they test aircraft engines after all…
That was actually done once, unintentionally. I can't remember which rocket but one early test launch failed and the LES fired.
Mandla Maseko, the South African former DJ who won a chance to become the first black African in space, has died in a motorbike crash, his family said in a statement.
Maseko, 30, beat 1 million other contenders to win a trip to space sponsored by the Axe Apollo Space Academy, which had yet to be scheduled by the time of his death.
"It hasn't really sunk in yet. I'm envious of myself," Maseko said at the time in a Guardian interview. "I'm not trying to make this a race thing, but us blacks grew up dreaming to a certain stage. You dreamed of being a policeman or a lawyer, but you knew you won't get as far as pilot or astronaut.
"Then I went to space camp and I thought, I can actually be an astronaut."
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Hayabusa2, the Japanese asteroid sample mission, successfully touched down on the asteroid Ryugu, took some photographs, made its collection, and has successfully launched back off the surface. It will be heading back to Earth later this year with those samples.
That's the launch; if transit takes 3 days, that should get it there almost bang on the anniversary. Nice.
(I suspect the timing is not a coincidence.)
Is this where we post the super fuel efficient path that looks like it was the result of a drunk driver?
I was trying to find it again, but didn't know the search team, and didn't remember if I posted it in this thread or the science one and didn't wanna look too long.
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Some ground based silo launched missiles launch similarly. Think it's to protect the engines. Basically shoot it out like a bullet, discard a protective engine cover then fire it up in mid air. Here's a Dnepr (converted SS-18 icbm) launch.
Will that 31% really know (or care) that the station even exists once it is built? They're probably too busy trying to get access to basic sanitation or escape systemic poverty.
That brown-orange smoke around the start of the launch (N2O4 and hydrazine) is spooky to see in action like that.
I've heard this crazy theory that a country with over a billion citizens is capable of working on at least three things at once.
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/stratolaunch-the-worlds-biggest-plane-is-on-sale-for-400-million-2854822/
Not every out there project can succeed, at least Stratolaunch had one flight.
Meanwhile, Antonov's An-225 is still flying after +30 years of pretty continuous service, the demolishing of its original payload, and its owner country being dissolved. Truly, we live in the worse timeline.
(No, not really. But I was genuinely expecting Stratolaunch...and the Stratolaunch company...to use this thing for at least a few years.)
Allen's untimely death most likely took the wind out of their sails, and with nobody to fill the void...
The lesson here is that succession planning is important.
Many of the varied and interesting experimental payloads are detailed here:
Barring another random URL change you can watch live here:
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I watched this from 20-25 miles away to the south, this FH was absolutely hauling ass at the start of the launch. Should be some neat pictures of the center stage core lighting up the exhaust from the two side boosters
edit: to give a bit more context for those who can't watch a clip later: The barge was something like 600+ miles off the coast, far enough out that the sky was already starting to brighten, and the center core had to do a 3-engine burn instead of the normal burn because of how hot it was coming in. I'd hazard a guess that the odds probably weren't in favor of this one no matter how hard they tried.
edit2: Watching again, they might have purposefully missed due to something else going wrong on the decent. It veers way off to one side and is tilted over pretty far when it hits
I mean, its always aimed somewhat off, and this was definitely a stretch to catch the middle core here. I'll have to watch the video though, this one sounds like a good one to watch.
Edit:
The infrared shot of the booster coming in looks super cool. I feel like that's way more detail than I normally notice on a typical shot.
Edit edit: Yeah, it looks like they had already centered their suicide slam, and probably decided they were going too fast. It looks like it tilted itself over to try and get as far a way from the drone ship as possible, cause the last time it impacted the water at high velocity right next to the ship, the ship was out of service for months.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Damn. The 4th burn of the second stage REALLY kicked the speed up. The 3rd burn just radically changed the apogee, but maaaan this last burn.
It's too bad about the center core, maybe the fourth try will be the charm.
Citing the results of this launch the US Air Force has approved Falcon Heavy for defense department payloads: https://www.afspc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1886864/first-falcon-heavy-mission-for-defense-department-successfully-launched/
If things go well by 2034 we'll have an autonomous nuclear-powered drone helicopter gallivanting around the most flight-friendly environment in the solar system.
If these fireworks are gonna be my only real protection against a RUD event, I want them tested as close as possible to that. That’s how they test aircraft engines after all…
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Test nominal for baseline, then test catastrophic.
That was actually done once, unintentionally. I can't remember which rocket but one early test launch failed and the LES fired.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/africa/africas-first-would-be-astronaut-dies-intl/index.html
(I suspect the timing is not a coincidence.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/science/chandrayaan-2-india-moon.html
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
I was trying to find it again, but didn't know the search team, and didn't remember if I posted it in this thread or the science one and didn't wanna look too long.