Probably a little too political for them right now, after all
They literally have a book where Captain America says it is an unjust war and deserts to save Vietnamese civilians and Iron Man is reviled by his peers for deploying with the military! It makes no sense!
(Spider-Man: Life Story is very good)
Their version of Civil War is still mostly "everyone is an idiot", from what I saw.
Eh not really
It works a lot better, IMO, because it is something that has built over decades and the initial flashpoint of Steve going AWOL and Tony having to bring him in is a lot more buyable as a source of serious conflict between former friends
also history of the marvel universe sounds like it suuuuuuuuucks
I was into it when it was announced cause Javier Rodriguez kicks ass and I like Waid like 70% of the time
But christ it is genuinely just dry ass wiki narration for 6 issues
Who thought that would be compelling???
i dunno, but he's currently writing x-men
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So false alarm on Ms. Marvel, folks. Kamala's back on Earth and it looks like that last arc being so dull might have been an outlier. The book feels like Ms. Marvel again
I still think erasing her parents' memories was dumb, but I'm willing to see how it plays out. Hope it's temporary, but reversing it at this point might be dumber, so eh
Also it is an interesting parallel that Ahmed had both Kamala's and Miles's parents meet with them in the same month, one set of parents announcing new life and the other announcing impending death
Interested to see if the new suit is an intentional Symbiote Spidey nod, maybe Kamala will get her own Venom-type villain out of it?
Ed Brisson did an interview about Ghost Rider and I think I'm gonna give this book a shot:
The thing that I like about Danny -- and while this was also true of Johnny, you saw it more in Danny -- is how much he absolutely hates being the Ghost Rider. He's tried everything to rid himself of the curse and nothing worked. Well almost nothing. He has managed to rid himself of the curse, yet always finds himself craving it again.
Danny has an addictive personality, coupled with some anger issues, and that's something that we'll be exploring pretty heavily in the series. We're trying to evolve who Danny is and what he's all about.
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This book is about both of them. I know some folks got the impression that it's a book about Danny because he was on the cover that first dropped, but rest assured that this is equally a Johnny Blaze book.
Johnny has his own journey ahead of him. He's recently seized control of Hell and is doing his best to keep the place under control -- but he's new to management and like every new manager, no one likes him. Demons are conspiring against him while Mephisto laughs from his jail cell in Las Vegas.
[...]
The relationship between the brothers is going to be the centerpiece to the book. Even when they've worked together, they've always been at each other's throats.
Johnny is trying to contain Hell breaking open and vomiting demons on earth, Danny just wants to leave it all behind and focus on running his bar, The Fadeaway.
And, surprising no one, Aaron Kuder draws a really fuckin good Ghost Rider
Looks like whatever's happening soon to Green Lantern is spreading to Captain Marvel.
CAPTAIN MARVEL #12
Writer: KELLY THOMPSON
Penciller: LEE GARBETT
Cover: MARK BROOKS
CAPTAIN MARVEL VERSUS THE AVENGERS! THE LAST AVENGER!
Captain Marvel has fought off alien hordes. Rescued X-Men. Punched Thanos in the face. Literally saved the world. She now faces her greatest challenge: kill the Avengers. Has one of the world’s most powerful heroes gone dark? But why? And what does this mean for Carol... for the world? Life on Earth will never be the same. Kelly Thompson teams up with Eisner-nominated artist Lee Garbett for a brand-new arc -- and a bold new direction!
also history of the marvel universe sounds like it suuuuuuuuucks
I was into it when it was announced cause Javier Rodriguez kicks ass and I like Waid like 70% of the time
But christ it is genuinely just dry ass wiki narration for 6 issues
Who thought that would be compelling???
I like a lot of these type of things (Grand Design, anything Hickman), but even I opted out of History after 1 issue. The other things all at least had a storyline flowing through it or some other connective tissue. This was just "This happened. Oh and that happened. And that happened."
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She already killed Tony Stark in the last 5 years!
as much more important ksd and beyond carol is, i miss her weirdo adventures from the brian reed run more and more as i see how she's been used
I really liked the immediate post SW run where she got Alpha Flight of all folks as a supporting cast and just got up to weird space shit
Unfortunately that lasted like 6 issues before the creative team went back to TV work and here we are
You know she was still doing that Alpha Flight stuff after Fazekas and Butters left, right? Christos Gage did the short CW2 tie-in run, then Margaret Stohl did 14 issues, still doing Alpha Flight stuff.
as much more important ksd and beyond carol is, i miss her weirdo adventures from the brian reed run more and more as i see how she's been used
I really liked the immediate post SW run where she got Alpha Flight of all folks as a supporting cast and just got up to weird space shit
Unfortunately that lasted like 6 issues before the creative team went back to TV work and here we are
You know she was still doing that Alpha Flight stuff after Fazekas and Butters left, right? Christos Gage did the short CW2 tie-in run, then Margaret Stohl did 14 issues, still doing Alpha Flight stuff.
Yes but I do not think it is nearly as good as it was with Fazekas and Butters
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I mean in the sense that comic book dead is a pretty meaningless state you bounce back from in like two story arcs
Right, but my point is that in universe, she has already gone dark and villainous extremely recently.
Eh, it wasn't intentional and she really regretted it and felt bad
Which doesn't work in real life but in comic book world means you haven't really made the jump to villain
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I never saw any regret or feeling bad, but I will take your word for it. Heck, she could barely stomach an apology to Ms. Marvel, from what I remember.
I would bet money that "Captain Marvel maybe goes evil" by Kelly Thompson will be a much better story than "Captain Marvel goes Minority Report cop" at least
Also making the "Siancong War" is a fucking cop-out when Stan Lee was writing comics about Flash being in 'Nam in the 60s while it was still going
Just like how making Cap fight explicitly not-Nazi Hydra in Captain America was a cop-out when Cap was created as an explicitly anti-Nazi character
Marvel's initial explosion of fame and success happened because they weren't afraid to tackle real world events and politics in their comics. Now they're just another pathetic corporate machine desperate to avoid offending any white supremacists who buy their comics while still sidelining minority, LGBTQ etc creators. Sad, is what it is.
Well, they are owned by the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world, pretty much, and the MCU has been far more effective at sanding off real world politics than the comics have, even given the comics' recent push to do stuff like, well, Secret Empire. I think that if you put this most recent decision in a vacuum, it probably makes a bunch of sense, in that they're probably tired of having to say, "well Frank Castle fought in THIS war now, just go with it," and this means they no longer have to retcon it.
But!
You can't take this decision in a vacuum, and even if it unintentionally fits a pattern, it still fits a pattern. There are obviously exceptions; plenty of people working on Marvel comics are making challenging comics that fully engage with current events and the history of this country. But they also publish stories like Secret Empire, using off-brand Nazis that have marketable logos you can slap on merchandise. And you can also take money from weapons manufacturers until everyone yells at you, I guess.
I don't mind Marvel making challenging comics which attract criticism, that's what they should be doing. What I don't like is when they make decisions that are just the safest, most fence-sitting cautious ones they could. Have an opinion on Vietnam? Whoa someone might disagree with us! Let's make a not-Vietnam that we can use to tell stories with a Vietnam aesthetic without ever having to take responsibility for treating the historic material with any respect or weight!
Next their going to make Magneto a made up ethnicity of semitic people who were subject to a genocide in Not-WWII by the Mazis or something. Because who needs reality when you can just treat everything with the same kind of pathetic juvenile irreverence?
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I think finding in text reasons to deal with the fact these characters are still operating/don't age/or are tied to increasingly distant history is supremely unnecessary. Like we all get it, it's fiction. The Simpsons don't age and neither does Tony Stark.
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It works a lot better, IMO, because it is something that has built over decades and the initial flashpoint of Steve going AWOL and Tony having to bring him in is a lot more buyable as a source of serious conflict between former friends
But christ it is genuinely just dry ass wiki narration for 6 issues
Who thought that would be compelling???
i dunno, but he's currently writing x-men
Also it is an interesting parallel that Ahmed had both Kamala's and Miles's parents meet with them in the same month, one set of parents announcing new life and the other announcing impending death
Interested to see if the new suit is an intentional Symbiote Spidey nod, maybe Kamala will get her own Venom-type villain out of it?
And, surprising no one, Aaron Kuder draws a really fuckin good Ghost Rider
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
I am sure it is temporary but still, nah, I'm cool
Unfortunately that lasted like 6 issues before the creative team went back to TV work and here we are
I think they should have called it "captain marvel dark," it's much classier
was that the fazekas and butters run that i didn't realize actually happened?
I cant believe the Avengers have gone evil.
I like a lot of these type of things (Grand Design, anything Hickman), but even I opted out of History after 1 issue. The other things all at least had a storyline flowing through it or some other connective tissue. This was just "This happened. Oh and that happened. And that happened."
He was absolutely comic book dead.
You know she was still doing that Alpha Flight stuff after Fazekas and Butters left, right? Christos Gage did the short CW2 tie-in run, then Margaret Stohl did 14 issues, still doing Alpha Flight stuff.
Right, but my point is that in universe, she has already gone dark and villainous extremely recently.
Which doesn't work in real life but in comic book world means you haven't really made the jump to villain
the captain marvel who laughs
Who could resist such handsome security personnel?!?
Just like how making Cap fight explicitly not-Nazi Hydra in Captain America was a cop-out when Cap was created as an explicitly anti-Nazi character
Marvel's initial explosion of fame and success happened because they weren't afraid to tackle real world events and politics in their comics. Now they're just another pathetic corporate machine desperate to avoid offending any white supremacists who buy their comics while still sidelining minority, LGBTQ etc creators. Sad, is what it is.
But!
You can't take this decision in a vacuum, and even if it unintentionally fits a pattern, it still fits a pattern. There are obviously exceptions; plenty of people working on Marvel comics are making challenging comics that fully engage with current events and the history of this country. But they also publish stories like Secret Empire, using off-brand Nazis that have marketable logos you can slap on merchandise. And you can also take money from weapons manufacturers until everyone yells at you, I guess.
It's been a while, but Dark Reign Ms. Marvel was Moonstone in disguise, no? At least, she was on the Thunderbolts team during Dark Reign.
Next their going to make Magneto a made up ethnicity of semitic people who were subject to a genocide in Not-WWII by the Mazis or something. Because who needs reality when you can just treat everything with the same kind of pathetic juvenile irreverence?