ButtersA glass of some milksRegistered Userregular
edited January 2008
Crush is probably tough as nails but there are other broads on that show that would be more punishing. I'd rather be stepped on by her than fucking HELLGA.
Crush is probably tough as nails but there are other broads on that show that would be more punishing. I'd rather be stepped on by her than fucking HELLGA.
Hellga is just.....yea.
Do we have the stats on her? And what her name was before the surgery?
Also, just once, I want one of the contenders to...as the whistle is about to blow... turn to Toa and ask him: "Do you think you can get me The Rock's autograph?" and then run like hell.
Despite how "in shape" you get, there is a very very good reason she kicks asses for a living and you do not.
She kicks female asses for a living. If I got in shape I would easily have 20 pounds on her. That is a lot for a woman to give up.
Andy Kaufman called.
He said what's up and do you want to hang out next Saturday.
See that actually kind of proves my point. Andy never did lose to any of the women.
I would never take on a female boxer as I would definitely get my ass kicked no matter how hard I trained. But I think I would hold my own grappling a woman I have a considerable size advantage over.
See that actually kind of proves my point. Andy never did lose to any of the women.
I would never take on a female boxer as I would definitely get my ass kicked no matter how hard I trained. But I think I would hold my own grappling a woman I have a considerable size advantage over.
That's largely because they were hired by him to drive other people nuts with that exact fact. It was part of the joke.
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Until she pulls some technique that you have no defense for other than being strong.
It's tough to out grapple someone when they are that much stronger than you. I am not saying I would win but I think I would hold my own. I've had to wrestle women (never in regulation) before in high school and there wasn't much any of them could do to me. When you reach a certain level, the difference is just too great to over compensate for. I know of one girl in Ohio that's been able to clinch a winning season and although she's good, it's really only because she's 103 pounder. If she went up to 112 she'd be screwed.
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edited January 2008
butters...gina is one of the top MMA female fighters. even if you had 20 pounds on her, she would fuck your ass up unless you trained hardcore for at least a few years.
oh yeah, and the thing about grappling is, size doesn't mean shit if the person is skilled. an armbar will still fuck you up no matter how big you are. as will an ankle lock.
butters...gina is one of the top MMA female fighters. even if you had 20 pounds on her, she would fuck your ass up unless you trained hardcore for at least a few years.
oh yeah, and the thing about grappling is, size doesn't mean shit if the person is skilled. an armbar will still fuck you up no matter how big you are. as will an ankle lock.
Maybe so. I still say 20 pounds to a man is a lot to give up though I didn't know she was one of the best. I figured she just had a slight background in it and got into American Gladiators because she's hot.
EDIT: Oh and you are being stupid if you say size doesn't mean shit. There is a reason they have weight classes in that shit now, duder.
She's got a Muay Thai record of 12-1 with an MMA record of 5-0.
She's also a bit of an camera whore, though, explaining her involvement in American Gladiators and Fight Girls
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edited January 2008
If it's just grappling and no striking and the two people are of approximately equal skill level, then yeah, 20 pounds is gonna make a difference. But if the smaller person is an experienced fighter and the other is just "in shape", the weight difference probably isn't gonna be an issue.
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butters...gina is one of the top MMA female fighters. even if you had 20 pounds on her, she would fuck your ass up unless you trained hardcore for at least a few years.
oh yeah, and the thing about grappling is, size doesn't mean shit if the person is skilled. an armbar will still fuck you up no matter how big you are. as will an ankle lock.
Maybe so. I still say 20 pounds to a man is a lot to give up though I didn't know she was one of the best. I figured she just had a slight background in it and got into American Gladiators because she's hot.
EDIT: Oh and you are being stupid if you say size doesn't mean shit. There is a reason they have weight classes in that shit now, duder.
weight doesn't mean shit when compared to skill in grappling. yeah there are weight classes because they are fighting professionally and are all roughly the same skill level.
now if it was a professional grappler that weighs 140 vs. some schmo on the street that weighs 180. the grappler will almost always win.
If it's just grappling and no striking and the two people are of approximately equal skill level, then yeah, 20 pounds is gonna make a difference. But if the smaller person is an experienced fighter and the other is just "in shape", the weight difference probably isn't gonna be an issue.
Well I'd be in shape and have 13 years of wrestling experience under my belt. Made it to states, almost twice.
EDIT: I don't watch or know that much about MMA but it seems to me the best ones are the grapplers. Cotour or whatever his name is wins against guys half his age because of his grappling skills.
If it's just grappling and no striking and the two people are of approximately equal skill level, then yeah, 20 pounds is gonna make a difference. But if the smaller person is an experienced fighter and the other is just "in shape", the weight difference probably isn't gonna be an issue.
Well I'd be in shape and have 13 years of wrestling experience under my belt. Made it to states, almost twice.
EDIT: I don't watch or know that much about MMA but it seems to me the best ones are the grapplers. Cotour or whatever his name is wins against guys half his age because of his grappling skills.
well, see, i didn't know that about you. how long have you been out of wrestling? I still think you would have to do more then 'get in shape'. Like how to handle fighting on your feet.
If it's just grappling and no striking and the two people are of approximately equal skill level, then yeah, 20 pounds is gonna make a difference. But if the smaller person is an experienced fighter and the other is just "in shape", the weight difference probably isn't gonna be an issue.
Well I'd be in shape and have 13 years of wrestling experience under my belt. Made it to states, almost twice.
EDIT: I don't watch or know that much about MMA but it seems to me the best ones are the grapplers. Cotour or whatever his name is wins against guys half his age because of his grappling skills.
well, see, i didn't know that about you. how long have you been out of wrestling? I still think you would have to do more then 'get in shape'. Like how to handle fighting on your feet.
I've done a little martial arts (red belt in Taekwondo) but not much. But the whole idea for me would be to take the fight to the ground. Taekwondo is pretty crappy for combat.
I've been out of competition a while but I got back into it a lot last year coaching my brother.
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edited January 2008
Wrestling was fun as hell. I wasn't super great at it, but still lots of fun.
I loved far-side cradles. Pinned 3 guys in a row at a tournament with it.
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edited January 2008
My brother is 6'1", lanky, yet stronger then shit. He had a fucking killer far-side. I wish he would have had my coach in high school. The program really went south shortly after I graduated and he really could have been great with better coaching and better competition on his team.
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edited January 2008
I have a second degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do. It's the most useless martial art imaginable for anything other than fancy dancing. If someone tried to fancy dance me in an alley, I'd be so set.
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Ha ha ha yea! I agree. My instructor was big on Hopkido and integrating some of it into his teaching but taekwondo sparring is a sport more than anything.
I have a second degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do. It's the most useless martial art imaginable for anything other than fancy dancing. If someone tried to fancy dance me in an alley, I'd be so set.
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No. The jets and sharks are tougher than most taekwondo blackbelts.
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I just laughed when she stepped on that contestant last night and shrugged it off.
Cheating or not, I'm pretty sure she would fuck most anyone here up in a fight. I know if I pissed her off, I'd run.
Hellga is just.....yea.
Do we have the stats on her? And what her name was before the surgery?
If I got in shape I wouldn't be too scared. Men are just plain better at grappling but in the state I am now...yeah I wouldn't fuck with her.
EDIT: According to NBC Hellga is 6'1" 205. That is a lot of broad.
Despite how "in shape" you get, there is a very very good reason she kicks asses for a living and you do not.
She kicks female asses for a living. If I got in shape I would easily have 20 pounds on her. That is a lot for a woman to give up.
Andy Kaufman called.
He said what's up and do you want to hang out next Saturday.
See that actually kind of proves my point. Andy never did lose to any of the women.
I would never take on a female boxer as I would definitely get my ass kicked no matter how hard I trained. But I think I would hold my own grappling a woman I have a considerable size advantage over.
That's largely because they were hired by him to drive other people nuts with that exact fact. It was part of the joke.
It's tough to out grapple someone when they are that much stronger than you. I am not saying I would win but I think I would hold my own. I've had to wrestle women (never in regulation) before in high school and there wasn't much any of them could do to me. When you reach a certain level, the difference is just too great to over compensate for. I know of one girl in Ohio that's been able to clinch a winning season and although she's good, it's really only because she's 103 pounder. If she went up to 112 she'd be screwed.
sure as hell doesn't look like "grappling" to me.
:winky:
Kick em in the cunt.
Go for their sense of self-esteem and self-worth. Bonus points for tears.
oh yeah, and the thing about grappling is, size doesn't mean shit if the person is skilled. an armbar will still fuck you up no matter how big you are. as will an ankle lock.
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Maybe so. I still say 20 pounds to a man is a lot to give up though I didn't know she was one of the best. I figured she just had a slight background in it and got into American Gladiators because she's hot.
EDIT: Oh and you are being stupid if you say size doesn't mean shit. There is a reason they have weight classes in that shit now, duder.
She's also a bit of an camera whore, though, explaining her involvement in American Gladiators and Fight Girls
I don't have any problem with her being in front of a camera.
weight doesn't mean shit when compared to skill in grappling. yeah there are weight classes because they are fighting professionally and are all roughly the same skill level.
now if it was a professional grappler that weighs 140 vs. some schmo on the street that weighs 180. the grappler will almost always win.
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Well I'd be in shape and have 13 years of wrestling experience under my belt. Made it to states, almost twice.
EDIT: I don't watch or know that much about MMA but it seems to me the best ones are the grapplers. Cotour or whatever his name is wins against guys half his age because of his grappling skills.
well, see, i didn't know that about you. how long have you been out of wrestling? I still think you would have to do more then 'get in shape'. Like how to handle fighting on your feet.
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I've done a little martial arts (red belt in Taekwondo) but not much. But the whole idea for me would be to take the fight to the ground. Taekwondo is pretty crappy for combat.
I've been out of competition a while but I got back into it a lot last year coaching my brother.
I loved far-side cradles. Pinned 3 guys in a row at a tournament with it.