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Cleopatra in Space is p good though. Lots of things going on, quality visuals and animation, many characters, fine gags and dialogue, not too many tropes. Also cats all over the place.
Watched a Zenimation on Disney+ and ended up watching all of them. Bunch of clips stitched together from various Disney movies throughout their entire animated catalog, arranged by theme (flight, water, cityscapes,etc) but the big trick is they've removed the score and dialog but left the atmospheric and other sound effects. It's remarkably effective and captivating.
Such amazing cartoon being made these days. She-ra, BoJack, DuckTales, American Dad, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander over Yonder…
I think I may prefer cartoons to live-action, which is often cynical and depressing; cartoons are optimistic and hopeful (well, except BoJack, of course).
Such amazing cartoon being made these days. She-ra, BoJack, DuckTales, American Dad, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander over Yonder…
I think I may prefer cartoons to live-action, which is often cynical and depressing; cartoons are optimistic and hopeful (well, except BoJack, of course).
MovieBob did a great Big Picture about the end of She-Ra, and how it's exactly what we needed right now.
Am I being too harsh on She-Ra? I saw the first season and though it was just fine. And then the second season opened up with an extremely obvious The Importance of Teamwork episode.
I mean, I appreciate that it's available, and I might not be the target demographic (which is fine). But it's not really grabbing me yet.
Am I being too harsh on She-Ra? I saw the first season and though it was just fine. And then the second season opened up with an extremely obvious The Importance of Teamwork episode.
I mean, I appreciate that it's available, and I might not be the target demographic (which is fine). But it's not really grabbing me yet.
Not really feeling Amphibia. Every episode involves Ann/e being stupid, selfish, naive, careless or completely thoughtless and then the problem she creates resolves in the end. Funny and inventive at times but very very rote. And unlike Owl House, another incredibly similar isekai-style series, it doesn't have Eda.
There are things I like about it, but it is definitely the lesser show. The last few episodes seem to set up a status quo that’s going somewhere, though.
Owl House is legitimately great. I haven’t watched too much of Amphibia so I haven’t picked up on the trend, but I do enjoy the episodes I’ve seen.
Unrelatedly, I started Young Justice Season 3 (or Young Justice Outsiders season 1 since Amazon likes to be super confusing...). After the first episode I like what the plot appears to be, and that they seem to be returning to the core group, which they not utilizing well was always my biggest complaint of season 2, but the animation is noticeably worse and more choppy compared to how brilliant the original run was.
Am I being too harsh on She-Ra? I saw the first season and though it was just fine. And then the second season opened up with an extremely obvious The Importance of Teamwork episode.
I mean, I appreciate that it's available, and I might not be the target demographic (which is fine). But it's not really grabbing me yet.
It gets better with each season.
It very much a tween show, though.
I wasn't totally sold until the last couple episodes of season 3.
Am I being too harsh on She-Ra? I saw the first season and though it was just fine. And then the second season opened up with an extremely obvious The Importance of Teamwork episode.
I mean, I appreciate that it's available, and I might not be the target demographic (which is fine). But it's not really grabbing me yet.
It gets better with each season.
It very much a tween show, though.
I wasn't totally sold until the last couple episodes of season 3.
I feel it started off "good enough to watch the next episode" and progressed to "must-see tv".
Edit: Though, I feel, a lot of that is that it takes time to build an emotional connection to the characters, as is the case with other long-form fiction.
Not really feeling Amphibia. Every episode involves Ann/e being stupid, selfish, naive, careless or completely thoughtless and then the problem she creates resolves in the end. Funny and inventive at times but very very rote. And unlike Owl House, another incredibly similar isekai-style series, it doesn't have Eda.
There are things I like about it, but it is definitely the lesser show. The last few episodes seem to set up a status quo that’s going somewhere, though.
Owl House is legitimately great. I haven’t watched too much of Amphibia so I haven’t picked up on the trend, but I do enjoy the episodes I’ve seen.
Unrelatedly, I started Young Justice Season 3 (or Young Justice Outsiders season 1 since Amazon likes to be super confusing...). After the first episode I like what the plot appears to be, and that they seem to be returning to the core group, which they not utilizing well was always my biggest complaint of season 2, but the animation is noticeably worse and more choppy compared to how brilliant the original run was.
Star Vs. Evil is still the high point of modern Disney, both for being really good and being one of the most honest examinations of how racism works on TV in years.
I'm amazed (and heartened) by how quickly LGBT representation's getting normalized in family animation.
I watched this with both my daughters (one is 3, while the other is 7). They both enjoyed it, although my 7 year old did effectively ask "but why does he not want to tell his parents about his boyfriend?" because she just doesn't understand why that would be a problem. And that is because of lots of tv shows / cartoons thankfully normalise this.
For instance, there's a BBC show called "Marrying Mum and Dad" where the kids plan a wedding for their parents; there are a considerable amount of episodes where it's 2 dads or 2 mums getting married and again she really enjoys it.
It's... fine? Maybe a little better than the Bugs at the amusement park thing posted earlier in the thread. Daffy's segment is probably the best since it has the least dialog and the most inventive gags, but it might lean into Daffy's, well, Daffy side a little too much.
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I mostly watch She-Ra for Catra, Scorpia and Entrapta to be honest, but I think it's still a fairly clean nice show.
Also the s4 episode with Madame Raz is heartbreaking.
Though I had She-Ra/Catra as a romance pegged from the jump. It was not subtle, despite some critics not seeing it until they made it text instead of subtext.
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The one thing I cared about for half of the series was a happy ending for Scorpia. If everything else was terrible, but she ended up happy, I would have been okay with it. Fortunately, they did a great job with the ending the show all around!
I pretty regularly, but maybe not consistently, found it to be funny.
Basically everything with Entrapta is great. The slightly running gag of Catra is kinda still a cat made me smile. There's one particular shot of Scorpia staring absently out a window, that's kinda perfect.
Meeting Bo's parents was... i don't know... I like the show more for them doing that.
A big plus with She-Ra is that there aren't too many things you have grit your teeth and ignore to enjoy it, and the things you do have to get over are consistant.
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She-Ra is definitely aimed at a younger crowd, but of such good quality that, at worst, it drags a little bit at a couple points. Otherwise, it's a pretty fantastic show.
It is also unrelentingly wholesome and does not shy away from "non-standard" portrayals of family, body types, or sexuality. Even better, all of those things are simply part of the show instead of something the showmakers try to beat you over the head with to show how progressive they're being. Parents are parents, married folks are just married, and people are generally just positive and supportive of one another as people.
Given where the show started with the original She-Ra and He-Man way back in the early 80s, it's lightyears of difference both in show quality and messaging.
She-Ra is definitely aimed at a younger crowd, but of such good quality that, at worst, it drags a little bit at a couple points. Otherwise, it's a pretty fantastic show.
It is also unrelentingly wholesome and does not shy away from "non-standard" portrayals of family, body types, or sexuality. Even better, all of those things are simply part of the show instead of something the showmakers try to beat you over the head with to show how progressive they're being. Parents are parents, married folks are just married, and people are generally just positive and supportive of one another as people.
Given where the show started with the original She-Ra and He-Man way back in the early 80s, it's lightyears of difference both in show quality and messaging.
It's seriously the kind of show we need right now. I love it so much.
There's not a character on the show that I don't love.
So apparently in the new Looney Tunes Elmer Fudd no longer has a hunter's rifle. He's still a hunter, though.
Like, I'm not mad about this or anything, but why even have him be a hunter anymore instead of just finding him something else to do.
I've been watching the new shorts. (My opinion has upgraded to "pretty decent," if you care.) And... they do, for the most part. In the latest crop they have Bugs harass Elmer for his private pool, Bugs give Elmer dating advice, Bugs thwart Elmer's attempts at being a tough-guy interrogator, Bugs interrupt Elmer's attempt at landscape painting, etc. It works pretty well. Elmer only shows up in his hunting gear for a series of less than one minute gags about a portable hole.
My take on the whole thing is that the new Looney Tunes are already incredibly violent. There's plenty of TNT, chainsaws, cannons, etc. It borders on being too much. With all that going on, you don't really miss the guns at all.
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That's just a bridge too far, don't even use the character then, especially if there is still violence everywhere else. Make the gun more of a blunderbuss or something if you're really scared of kids seeing it, but chances are they're already seeing more realistic versions while they floss in Fortnite. This is Wolverine never using his claws for things other than opening cans or cutting glass levels of stupid.
The former Vice President recently suggested that maybe cops should be trained to shoot people in the leg. How media represents guns has a massive effect on public perception of how safe/dangerous they are and what they should be used for. If cartoons aren't allowed to represent gunshot wounds as some gunpowder on someone's face and maybe a blackeye I ain't gonna cry over it.
The former Vice President recently suggested that maybe cops should be trained to shoot people in the leg. How media represents guns has a massive effect on public perception of how safe/dangerous they are and what they should be used for. If cartoons aren't allowed to represent gunshot wounds as some gunpowder on someone's face and maybe a blackeye I ain't gonna cry over it.
I would sooner put the blame and spotlight on television and movies for perpetuating those perceptions.
For instance, counterpoint: How many people do you know that genuinely believe that sticking their finger down a gun barrel will actually stop it from firing?
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Such amazing cartoon being made these days. She-ra, BoJack, DuckTales, American Dad, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander over Yonder…
I think I may prefer cartoons to live-action, which is often cynical and depressing; cartoons are optimistic and hopeful (well, except BoJack, of course).
MovieBob did a great Big Picture about the end of She-Ra, and how it's exactly what we needed right now.
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/how-she-ra-game-changing-ending-made-cartoon-history-the-big-picture/
American Dad deserves to still be going though.
It's last decade is significantly more worthwhile then most everything else on TV.
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I mean, I didn't care much for it either, but to be fair American Dad's first few seasons weren't great either.
And that how I started rewatching My Name is Earl.
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I mean, I appreciate that it's available, and I might not be the target demographic (which is fine). But it's not really grabbing me yet.
It gets better with each season.
It very much a tween show, though.
Owl House is legitimately great. I haven’t watched too much of Amphibia so I haven’t picked up on the trend, but I do enjoy the episodes I’ve seen.
Unrelatedly, I started Young Justice Season 3 (or Young Justice Outsiders season 1 since Amazon likes to be super confusing...). After the first episode I like what the plot appears to be, and that they seem to be returning to the core group, which they not utilizing well was always my biggest complaint of season 2, but the animation is noticeably worse and more choppy compared to how brilliant the original run was.
I wasn't totally sold until the last couple episodes of season 3.
I feel it started off "good enough to watch the next episode" and progressed to "must-see tv".
Edit: Though, I feel, a lot of that is that it takes time to build an emotional connection to the characters, as is the case with other long-form fiction.
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Star Vs. Evil is still the high point of modern Disney, both for being really good and being one of the most honest examinations of how racism works on TV in years.
I watched this with both my daughters (one is 3, while the other is 7). They both enjoyed it, although my 7 year old did effectively ask "but why does he not want to tell his parents about his boyfriend?" because she just doesn't understand why that would be a problem. And that is because of lots of tv shows / cartoons thankfully normalise this.
For instance, there's a BBC show called "Marrying Mum and Dad" where the kids plan a wedding for their parents; there are a considerable amount of episodes where it's 2 dads or 2 mums getting married and again she really enjoys it.
https://youtu.be/CuJ1xMVqY0I
It's... fine? Maybe a little better than the Bugs at the amusement park thing posted earlier in the thread. Daffy's segment is probably the best since it has the least dialog and the most inventive gags, but it might lean into Daffy's, well, Daffy side a little too much.
Also the s4 episode with Madame Raz is heartbreaking.
I was back on board.
Course I only watch during blood donations so it's gonna be a long time before I actually finish the series.
Though I had She-Ra/Catra as a romance pegged from the jump. It was not subtle, despite some critics not seeing it until they made it text instead of subtext.
Basically everything with Entrapta is great. The slightly running gag of Catra is kinda still a cat made me smile. There's one particular shot of Scorpia staring absently out a window, that's kinda perfect.
Meeting Bo's parents was... i don't know... I like the show more for them doing that.
It is also unrelentingly wholesome and does not shy away from "non-standard" portrayals of family, body types, or sexuality. Even better, all of those things are simply part of the show instead of something the showmakers try to beat you over the head with to show how progressive they're being. Parents are parents, married folks are just married, and people are generally just positive and supportive of one another as people.
Given where the show started with the original She-Ra and He-Man way back in the early 80s, it's lightyears of difference both in show quality and messaging.
It's seriously the kind of show we need right now. I love it so much.
There's not a character on the show that I don't love.
...
Well, except: (minor season 5 spoiler)
Fuck that guy.
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/05/clerks-animated-series-oral-history/amp/
Oral history of Clerks the Animated Series, still probably the best thing Kevin Smith has done (and I'm a fan of his).
Like, I'm not mad about this or anything, but why even have him be a hunter anymore instead of just finding him something else to do.
I've been watching the new shorts. (My opinion has upgraded to "pretty decent," if you care.) And... they do, for the most part. In the latest crop they have Bugs harass Elmer for his private pool, Bugs give Elmer dating advice, Bugs thwart Elmer's attempts at being a tough-guy interrogator, Bugs interrupt Elmer's attempt at landscape painting, etc. It works pretty well. Elmer only shows up in his hunting gear for a series of less than one minute gags about a portable hole.
My take on the whole thing is that the new Looney Tunes are already incredibly violent. There's plenty of TNT, chainsaws, cannons, etc. It borders on being too much. With all that going on, you don't really miss the guns at all.
https://youtu.be/bAyb4Z5QhRY
I would sooner put the blame and spotlight on television and movies for perpetuating those perceptions.
For instance, counterpoint: How many people do you know that genuinely believe that sticking their finger down a gun barrel will actually stop it from firing?
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