Temporary, but it does signal the completion of a thousand year cycle which will destroy the gap between the real and the ideal, between mundanity and insanity.
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Temporary, but it does signal the completion of a thousand year cycle which will destroy the gap between the real and the ideal, between mundanity and insanity.
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Temporary, but it does signal the completion of a thousand year cycle which will destroy the gap between the real and the ideal, between mundanity and insanity.
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
Same question. I mean, I get it from Lost Causers, but seriously, what's with that?
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
The genocide against Native Americans accelerated during the Civil War due to the federal government misusing war powers as a pretext.
Temporary, but it does signal the completion of a thousand year cycle which will destroy the gap between the real and the ideal, between mundanity and insanity.
Nooooo, I don't wanna go back to the Hellnight...
Children's rights are human rights.
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Der Waffle MousBlame this on the misfortune of your birth.New Yark, New Yark.Registered Userregular
there's the whole issue with the homestead act and the dakota war and the largest (known) mass execution conducted by the US government.
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
He personally signed the death warrants of 38 Dakota men, in what was the largest mass execution in American history
It's kind of amazing that while the US was in the middle of the Civil War we still made time to terrorize the native population on the other side of the country
PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
the official inquiry into the sand creek massacre concluded that it was in fact a massacre, but col. chivington couldn't be punished because he was no longer in the army when the inquiry was finished
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Kane Red RobeMaster of MagicArcanusRegistered Userregular
Well then. Funny how that doesn't get mentioned in the history books.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
Sorry to keep harping on it, but when I say he "personally signed" the death warrants, I don't mean the Presidential photo-op thing where he jotted his name down on papers set in front of him.
Citing his career as a lawyer, he read every case file, examined all evidence, and personally condemned all 38 men to death.
Engineers had to devise and construct a set of gallows capable of murdering 38 men simultaneously. It was an act of slow, deliberate, intentional cruelty.
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Der Waffle MousBlame this on the misfortune of your birth.New Yark, New Yark.Registered Userregular
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
He personally signed the death warrants of 38 Dakota men, in what was the largest mass execution in American history
Dude hated natives
Im reading he commuted the death sentence of 264 prisoners out of 303 people originally sentenced to die?
Originally the army had wanted to execute over 300 Dakota men who had surrendered. Lincoln commuted 265 of those sentences, resulting in protests from the white populace of Minnesota and Republican losses in the next Congressional election.
Originally the army had wanted to execute over 300 Dakota men who had surrendered. Lincoln commuted 265 of those sentences, resulting in protests from the white populace of Minnesota and Republican losses in the next Congressional election.
yeah, the 38 that were executed were found to have participated in massacres or had been rapists
the rest were deemed enemy combatants ( and were still imprisoned because the sentence was only commuted)
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
I have very mixed feelings about Lincoln, but I think there's more negative than positive there if only by a little
Like him explicitly not being an abolitionist, not thinking black and white people deserved equal rights, and thinking that that after slavery was ended black people should largely leave the country
I have very mixed feelings about Lincoln, but I think there's more negative than positive there if only by a little
Like him explicitly not being an abolitionist, not thinking black and white people deserved equal rights, and thinking that that after slavery was ended black people should largely leave the country
To be fair this was actually the predominantly popular opinion among free blacks at the time too. (It lost its popularity around the end of the civil war, as the (ultimately ineffectual) Reconstructionist protective measures for freedmen in the South was seen as sign that it might be possible to nudge American society ever so slightly into a more just model. (Plus, when millions of slaves were actually freed it became very quickly apparent that attempting to resettle all of them, even if they were cooperative, was completely impossible.) It was considered inconceivable to even most radicals that white Americans would ever let Africans Americans be, slavery or not, without having both metaphorical and very literal nooses around their necks.
Portland protestors knocked over statues of Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt in the wee hours of the morning. This was the correct day to do that, so god bless 'em.
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
He personally signed the death warrants of 38 Dakota men, in what was the largest mass execution in American history
Dude hated natives
Im reading he commuted the death sentence of 264 prisoners out of 303 people originally sentenced to die?
Originally the army had wanted to execute over 300 Dakota men who had surrendered. Lincoln commuted 265 of those sentences, resulting in protests from the white populace of Minnesota and Republican losses in the next Congressional election.
yeah, the 38 that were executed were found to have participated in massacres or had been rapists
the rest were deemed enemy combatants ( and were still imprisoned because the sentence was only commuted)
Here's the thing
To view the executions as just, one must first assume the war was just. One must also assume that "evidence" - provided entirely by the occupiers of stolen land, who had a vested interest in making the people whose land they were stealing appear as monstrous as possible - was accurate. It also assumes that a grand guignol execution, on a scale seen neither before nor since, was a just punishment for fuckin' anything.
If you are willing to go out on those three simultaneous limbs, fuckin' go with god. But when a novelty execution, outlandish in its exaggerated cruelty, is held up by a colonizing force as "Well, actually, this was the merciful option," I'm gonna look at the whole thing pretty fucking askance.
Like, maybe the executive of an imperial force kinda fuckin' sucked, you know?
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I don't view any execution as just, especially one executed by an occupying force, because fucking duh
I have very mixed feelings about Lincoln, but I think there's more negative than positive there if only by a little
Like him explicitly not being an abolitionist, not thinking black and white people deserved equal rights, and thinking that that after slavery was ended black people should largely leave the country
To be fair this was actually the predominantly popular opinion among free blacks at the time too. (It lost its popularity around the end of the civil war, as the (ultimately ineffectual) Reconstructionist protective measures for freedmen in the South was seen as sign that it might be possible to nudge American society ever so slightly into a more just model. (Plus, when millions of slaves were actually freed it became very quickly apparent that attempting to resettle all of them, even if they were cooperative, was completely impossible.) It was considered inconceivable to even most radicals that white Americans would ever let Africans Americans be, slavery or not, without having both metaphorical and very literal nooses around their necks.
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So it is the shitty Pinkerton name, with all the shitty modern-day 'contract security' bullshit.
How do you feel about spontaneous solar eclipses?
Big fan if Trump stares at it without eye protection. Again.
oh dip, steph miller gonna become the next godhand by sacrificing the band of the grift?
is the eclipse a temporary deal or the beginning of a new epoch of total darkness, this is important
hitting hot metal with hammers
That is likely, but I also think it's very possible that he'll try to pull some shit in the wrong country and end up in a ditch.
I don't; "that wrong shit" is what he has minions for. He will never face the consequences of his actions.
sign me the fuck up
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The story in question right here, for those who want to read about it.
this is some Grant Morrison nonsense
Teddy I understand, but what are we mad with Abe about?
Same question. I mean, I get it from Lost Causers, but seriously, what's with that?
Hell yeah I love blaseball go Dale
The genocide against Native Americans accelerated during the Civil War due to the federal government misusing war powers as a pretext.
Nooooo, I don't wanna go back to the Hellnight...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_War
He personally signed the death warrants of 38 Dakota men, in what was the largest mass execution in American history
Dude hated natives
sheridan and sherman were the architects of the indian wars
painting the north as anything other than war heroes tends to complicate the rosy picture of american history
Just varying degrees of bad.
Citing his career as a lawyer, he read every case file, examined all evidence, and personally condemned all 38 men to death.
Engineers had to devise and construct a set of gallows capable of murdering 38 men simultaneously. It was an act of slow, deliberate, intentional cruelty.
Im reading he commuted the death sentence of 264 prisoners out of 303 people originally sentenced to die?
yeah, the 38 that were executed were found to have participated in massacres or had been rapists
the rest were deemed enemy combatants ( and were still imprisoned because the sentence was only commuted)
Like him explicitly not being an abolitionist, not thinking black and white people deserved equal rights, and thinking that that after slavery was ended black people should largely leave the country
Yeah, I didn't know about this shit until earlier today.
In fact, the vast majority of atrocities inflicted upon Native Americans I learned about outside of the classes I took.
Ken Burns' The West is extremely good and definitely covers a great deal of the U.S. interaction (and earlier colonial powers) with native americans
highly HIGHLY recommend it
Here's the thing
To view the executions as just, one must first assume the war was just. One must also assume that "evidence" - provided entirely by the occupiers of stolen land, who had a vested interest in making the people whose land they were stealing appear as monstrous as possible - was accurate. It also assumes that a grand guignol execution, on a scale seen neither before nor since, was a just punishment for fuckin' anything.
If you are willing to go out on those three simultaneous limbs, fuckin' go with god. But when a novelty execution, outlandish in its exaggerated cruelty, is held up by a colonizing force as "Well, actually, this was the merciful option," I'm gonna look at the whole thing pretty fucking askance.
Like, maybe the executive of an imperial force kinda fuckin' sucked, you know?
but whites were absolutely massacred
Right, just as soon as everyone in the army who did that gets strung up too (not to mention the tendency to label any battle they lost a massacre).
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