I don’t know how I feel about ragging on Trump because he shutdown the whole country, because he didn’t, the governors basically agreed to among themselves, and also because I think any reasonable person would agree that the hard shutdown period was at least a month or so too short.
When you fuck up the virus response so badly it crushes the country for as long as it has? Yeah you can get tagged for shutting it down. Like his party hasn't done shit with stimulus or helping states recover, he owns the shutdown.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
That video is cheesy but I kinda like it? They laid out simple policy goals, made Trump look bad, and did it to the music and editing style of a generic HGTV show.
I don’t know how I feel about ragging on Trump because he shutdown the whole country, because he didn’t, the governors basically agreed to among themselves, and also because I think any reasonable person would agree that the hard shutdown period was at least a month or so too short.
When you fuck up the virus response so badly it crushes the country for as long as it has? Yeah you can get tagged for shutting it down. Like his party hasn't done shit with stimulus or helping states recover, he owns the shutdown.
Yeah the lack of a solid testing and contact tracing plan is part of why hard shutdowns were necessary, and why those shutdowns (and softer shutdowns) are lasting so long. And his refusal to put a fucking mask on is part of why we still have so many things shut down, and are probably looking at a second round of hard shutdowns if the political will exists.
When you don’t have the ability to identify and trace positive individuals, and when you resist measures to reduce spread, shutdowns are the only tool that’s left. And you can’t lay it all at the feet of governors, because there are maskholes in every state and the president has been their king. That’s a coast to coast problem created and fed specifically by him.
So yeah. He owns a lot of the shutdown. Similar to the death toll. Would we have had tens of thousands dead regardless of who’s in office? Yes. Would it likely be a hundred thousand less if it wasn’t Trump? Also yes. Would there have been shutdowns regardless? Yes. Could it have been less with a proper response? Also yes.
I don’t know how I feel about ragging on Trump because he shutdown the whole country, because he didn’t, the governors basically agreed to among themselves, and also because I think any reasonable person would agree that the hard shutdown period was at least a month or so too short.
Trump shut down the government over funding for his wall, I know it was millenia ago, in the before times, but it should not be forgotten.
So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
I don’t know how I feel about ragging on Trump because he shutdown the whole country, because he didn’t, the governors basically agreed to among themselves, and also because I think any reasonable person would agree that the hard shutdown period was at least a month or so too short.
Trump shut down the government over funding for his wall, I know it was millenia ago, in the before times, but it should not be forgotten.
His approval rating tanked over the whole fiasco so it's worth reminding folk about it.
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So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
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So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
i mean to be fair the third one is a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value so we'd really only need two i mean just saying does anybody on the planet really want to know what jorgensen has to say
So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
i mean to be fair the third one is a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value so we'd really only need two i mean just saying does anybody on the planet really want to know what jorgensen has to say
I get a thrill reading tweets that Jorgensen puts out and the absolutely delusional people who believe in that candidacy. It's like star citizen fans talking about how the game is almost in alpha.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
I don't think there's enough booze in the world for the mods to be able to handle three election threads.
But yeah, I agree- Trump weaseled his way into something he shouldn't have yet again because the media wants a damn horserace- and the potential for a Trump public speaking event to be like a massive interstate pileup in action, as people want to watch it as it happens, and gawk the whole time. In a regular election, he's perched on his throne in the Oval Office bathroom issuing proclamations over Twitter while Biden eats his lunch over what a fucking whiny child he is.
Let me guess: honor system or NBC just said "fuck it, we'll forgo the COVID tests for those sweet, sweet eyeballs on us" as far as the whole 'everyone tested before the town hall' promise?
So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
I don't think there's enough booze in the world for the mods to be able to handle three election threads.
But yeah, I agree- Trump weaseled his way into something he shouldn't have yet again because the media wants a damn horserace- and the potential for a Trump public speaking event to be like a massive interstate pileup in action, as people want to watch it as it happens, and gawk the whole time. In a regular election, he's perched on his throne in the Oval Office bathroom issuing proclamations over Twitter while Biden eats his lunch over what a fucking whiny child he is.
Let me guess: honor system or NBC just said "fuck it, we'll forgo the COVID tests for those sweet, sweet eyeballs on us" as far as the whole 'everyone tested before the town hall' promise?
NBC is not going to do testing. Like there is no way Trump agreed to a test he can't control. So they'll trust his absolutely lying ass doctor to say he's clear and that's that.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
i mean to be fair the third one is a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value so we'd really only need two i mean just saying does anybody on the planet really want to know what jorgensen has to say
Wait, Jorgenson is having one too?
I thought the third one was the Trump one (definitely a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value), and the other two would be this one and the Biden specific one.
best result tonight is probably if nobody really cares about biden's event and trump says something completely idiotic
so really the most likely outcome
Well people should tune into the Biden one to see what a non fucking crazy person with empathy sounds like, but we'll see. As I recall their separate night townhalls Trump's was lower rated. I think Quid earlier said a lot of people can't stand hearing that human stain talk.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
best result tonight is probably if nobody really cares about biden's event and trump says something completely idiotic
so really the most likely outcome
Well people should tune into the Biden one to see what a non fucking crazy person with empathy sounds like, but we'll see. As I recall their separate night townhalls Trump's was lower rated. I think Quid earlier said a lot of people can't stand hearing that human stain talk.
That’s just a guess on my part.
Last cycle I and lots of others might have out of sheer curiosity as to what Trump would say because of the absurd spectacle.
But now that’s just a Tuesday. Trump is going to make outlandish BS claims. I know if I take away my obvious distaste for the man, I’d still probably tune in to the one offering something different from the last four years of shrieking rage.
best result tonight is probably if nobody really cares about biden's event and trump says something completely idiotic
so really the most likely outcome
Well people should tune into the Biden one to see what a non fucking crazy person with empathy sounds like, but we'll see. As I recall their separate night townhalls Trump's was lower rated. I think Quid earlier said a lot of people can't stand hearing that human stain talk.
Honestly, hearing him talk makes my brain ooze out of my ears. He sounds stupid, lazy, vile and disgusting
best result tonight is probably if nobody really cares about biden's event and trump says something completely idiotic
so really the most likely outcome
Well people should tune into the Biden one to see what a non fucking crazy person with empathy sounds like, but we'll see. As I recall their separate night townhalls Trump's was lower rated. I think Quid earlier said a lot of people can't stand hearing that human stain talk.
Honestly, hearing him talk makes my brain ooze out of my ears. He sounds stupid, lazy, vile and disgusting
And he's sounded that way through 50 years of public life, but people are still surprised...how, I have no idea.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
Do we know if the people for the town hall have been groomed and curated? I assume Trump will only get softballs and rant for 2h.
He got softballs at the last one and still fucked them up. Like dude could whiff on a teaball set up.
Frankly just being on air ranting is bad for him. We keep seeing stories about "How are the ratings..." but we already know that everybody will be watching for Trump for self-immolation. It'd be nice for him to be asked something that he considers "nasty".
Maybe someone will look him in the eyes and start their question with: "My mother died of COVID last week..."
So we're really going to have each candidate simultaneously do their own separate shows tonight. This is surreal and so fucking stupid. I don't blame Biden for trying to salvage the debate, though.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
i mean to be fair the third one is a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value so we'd really only need two i mean just saying does anybody on the planet really want to know what jorgensen has to say
Wait, Jorgenson is having one too?
I thought the third one was the Trump one (definitely a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value), and the other two would be this one and the Biden specific one.
U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence, according to four former officials familiar with the matter.
The warnings were based on multiple sources, including intercepted communications, that showed Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence during a December 2019 trip to Ukraine, where he was gathering information that he thought would expose corrupt acts by former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
The intelligence raised concerns that Giuliani was being used to feed Russian misinformation to the president, the former officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information and conversations.
So our Intelligence agencies know Giuliani is being used by the Russians for misinformation targeted at Trump and around Biden. Even more so after the bullshit from earlier this week shows how much effort is being put into this by Putin and his people.
Jesus, I only just saw this and never saw it mentioned here, but apparently the Trump Campaign has managed to take down the most patient man in Washington. Seems Scully lied about some tweets that were sent back when the second debate was up in the air, saying his account had been hacked rather than trying to defend them. He's been suspended, I'm sure he'll be fine in the long run, but damn this entire election season is just leaving everything in its path in ruins.
This is as close to punishment as we can expect from the media, I guess. So busy turning news into tabloid-level clickbait that they've ruined legitimate discourse in the country for generations.
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I haven't decided which town hall I want to watch. I doubt anyone normal will be at Trump's, and I can't stand hearing him talk... But I have already voted for Biden. So it's a toss up...
While stopping by the ER to drop off some things for mom (because I can't be with her or Dad while he's undergoing emergency surgery thanks to the TRUMP VIRUS grr...), I noticed that a local station is hosting a Trump rally next week.
WRPW (Cities 92.9) is an FM broadcast conservative radio station in Central Illinois with a talk format. WRPW, licensed to Colfax, Illinois in the Bloomington-Normal market, broadcasts at 92.9 MHz with an ERP of 6000 watts. WRPW is owned by Pilot Media, a subsidiary of Great Plains Media. Great Plains' CEO is Jerry Zimmer, a longtime partner in the Zimmer Radio Group based in Cape Girardeau, MO. The station changed to a news/talk format on August 30, 2007 from a rhythmic contemporary format that was known as Power 92.9.
Well, I had never listened to them before, but seeing that on a billboard kind of cemented it.
And doing a google search to post quotes here and present both sides "Fairly" pulled up their google hits for news, and... ugh. They are doing a trump watch party tonight though. I wonder if that's what was going on at the absolutely stuffed upscale steak house in town that had overflow parking.
U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence, according to four former officials familiar with the matter.
The warnings were based on multiple sources, including intercepted communications, that showed Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence during a December 2019 trip to Ukraine, where he was gathering information that he thought would expose corrupt acts by former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
The intelligence raised concerns that Giuliani was being used to feed Russian misinformation to the president, the former officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information and conversations.
So our Intelligence agencies know Giuliani is being used by the Russians for misinformation targeted at Trump and around Biden. Even more so after the bullshit from earlier this week shows how much effort is being put into this by Putin and his people.
I shouldn’t laugh but,
Trump had “shrugged his shoulders” at O’Brien’s warning, the former official said, and dismissed concern about his lawyer’s activities by saying, “That’s Rudy.”
That’s our little scamp Rudy, for ya, always getting into a little trouble.
I haven't decided which town hall I want to watch. I doubt anyone normal will be at Trump's, and I can't stand hearing him talk... But I have already voted for Biden. So it's a toss up...
I haven't decided which town hall I want to watch. I doubt anyone normal will be at Trump's, and I can't stand hearing him talk... But I have already voted for Biden. So it's a toss up...
Neither.
The answer is neither.
You know me better than that. =P Watching conservative politics is how I cope with my dad being in the ER! ... seems to be a pattern this year...
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When you fuck up the virus response so badly it crushes the country for as long as it has? Yeah you can get tagged for shutting it down. Like his party hasn't done shit with stimulus or helping states recover, he owns the shutdown.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Yeah the lack of a solid testing and contact tracing plan is part of why hard shutdowns were necessary, and why those shutdowns (and softer shutdowns) are lasting so long. And his refusal to put a fucking mask on is part of why we still have so many things shut down, and are probably looking at a second round of hard shutdowns if the political will exists.
When you don’t have the ability to identify and trace positive individuals, and when you resist measures to reduce spread, shutdowns are the only tool that’s left. And you can’t lay it all at the feet of governors, because there are maskholes in every state and the president has been their king. That’s a coast to coast problem created and fed specifically by him.
So yeah. He owns a lot of the shutdown. Similar to the death toll. Would we have had tens of thousands dead regardless of who’s in office? Yes. Would it likely be a hundred thousand less if it wasn’t Trump? Also yes. Would there have been shutdowns regardless? Yes. Could it have been less with a proper response? Also yes.
Fucking China will pay for the stimulus!!
Talk about reality’s hack writers recycling season 2016 in the dumbest way possible, BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I mean he's coming through on mexico paying for the wall. He just didn't mention they'd do it to keep our plague ridden asses from them.
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The same China that he's accusing of giving us this virus on purpose? Yeah, they're gonna pay up. Sure.
Well, I guess he can just take it out of the proceeds of the trade war that we're totally winning... oh wait...
Trump shut down the government over funding for his wall, I know it was millenia ago, in the before times, but it should not be forgotten.
Are we gonna have a separate thread(s) for these things?
His approval rating tanked over the whole fiasco so it's worth reminding folk about it.
My initial thought is that we can just accommodate them in here, and this will encourage people to provide context for their comments instead of just posting hot takes.
The alternative is having three goddamn election threads active at once, and hahahahahahaNO.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Excellent.
i mean to be fair the third one is a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value so we'd really only need two i mean just saying does anybody on the planet really want to know what jorgensen has to say
I get a thrill reading tweets that Jorgensen puts out and the absolutely delusional people who believe in that candidacy. It's like star citizen fans talking about how the game is almost in alpha.
pleasepaypreacher.net
I've seen a couple people saying this, but the website is still up for me?
Probably not the worst time for it to be down, if so, because the top trend has been bot bullshit for hours at this point. Bleh.
I don't think there's enough booze in the world for the mods to be able to handle three election threads.
But yeah, I agree- Trump weaseled his way into something he shouldn't have yet again because the media wants a damn horserace- and the potential for a Trump public speaking event to be like a massive interstate pileup in action, as people want to watch it as it happens, and gawk the whole time. In a regular election, he's perched on his throne in the Oval Office bathroom issuing proclamations over Twitter while Biden eats his lunch over what a fucking whiny child he is.
Let me guess: honor system or NBC just said "fuck it, we'll forgo the COVID tests for those sweet, sweet eyeballs on us" as far as the whole 'everyone tested before the town hall' promise?
I can has cheezburger, yes?
NBC is not going to do testing. Like there is no way Trump agreed to a test he can't control. So they'll trust his absolutely lying ass doctor to say he's clear and that's that.
pleasepaypreacher.net
so really the most likely outcome
Wait, Jorgenson is having one too?
I thought the third one was the Trump one (definitely a waste of time both for relevance and entertainment value), and the other two would be this one and the Biden specific one.
Well people should tune into the Biden one to see what a non fucking crazy person with empathy sounds like, but we'll see. As I recall their separate night townhalls Trump's was lower rated. I think Quid earlier said a lot of people can't stand hearing that human stain talk.
pleasepaypreacher.net
That’s just a guess on my part.
Last cycle I and lots of others might have out of sheer curiosity as to what Trump would say because of the absurd spectacle.
But now that’s just a Tuesday. Trump is going to make outlandish BS claims. I know if I take away my obvious distaste for the man, I’d still probably tune in to the one offering something different from the last four years of shrieking rage.
Honestly, hearing him talk makes my brain ooze out of my ears. He sounds stupid, lazy, vile and disgusting
He got softballs at the last one and still fucked them up. Like dude could whiff on a teaball set up.
pleasepaypreacher.net
And he's sounded that way through 50 years of public life, but people are still surprised...how, I have no idea.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Frankly just being on air ranting is bad for him. We keep seeing stories about "How are the ratings..." but we already know that everybody will be watching for Trump for self-immolation. It'd be nice for him to be asked something that he considers "nasty".
Maybe someone will look him in the eyes and start their question with: "My mother died of COVID last week..."
gonna be honest i heard three and just assumed
So our Intelligence agencies know Giuliani is being used by the Russians for misinformation targeted at Trump and around Biden. Even more so after the bullshit from earlier this week shows how much effort is being put into this by Putin and his people.
While stopping by the ER to drop off some things for mom (because I can't be with her or Dad while he's undergoing emergency surgery thanks to the TRUMP VIRUS grr...), I noticed that a local station is hosting a Trump rally next week.
Well, I had never listened to them before, but seeing that on a billboard kind of cemented it.
And doing a google search to post quotes here and present both sides "Fairly" pulled up their google hits for news, and... ugh. They are doing a trump watch party tonight though. I wonder if that's what was going on at the absolutely stuffed upscale steak house in town that had overflow parking.
I shouldn’t laugh but,
That’s our little scamp Rudy, for ya, always getting into a little trouble.
Neither.
The answer is neither.
You know me better than that. =P Watching conservative politics is how I cope with my dad being in the ER! ... seems to be a pattern this year...