I'm checking back in after taking several hours off. How are we feeling? It looks like 'probable Biden win' from some of the posts I've skimmed on this page, is that accurate?
Turtle-Boy still leads Senate, country could go either way at this point.
It’s fine to be stressed. It’s fine to be anxious.
But please - if you are unable to stop spiralling, log off. Get some sleep.
Nothing you do now is going to change anything. And this is not 2016.
This is all very true, and good advice.
But holy hell how am I EVER going to get to sleep when I'm this anxious?
Stop watching the tire fire? Hell add me on Steam if you want to play something as a distraction or something.
(she says, having caught up with the thread she wasn't intending to read :P)
This doesn't feel like 2016, but it's too close for my personal peace of mind. Could be very bad, could be ok. OTOH this is what the non-blowout "It's close so Trump whines about stopping the count and everyone tells him to fuck off" scenarios looked like, so. It probably helps my internal anxiety calculus that I had written off FL and GA before the night started.
But AP was not yet comfortable with that call. I don't know that Fox has ever actually been wrong about an early call, but they are probably the most aggressive decision desk out there.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Florida... you're never going to not be Florida aren't you.
i actually think by 2024 FL will be a lot less important
You think global warming’s going to get that bad by 2024?
Judging by the votes, Florida is very keen on being drowned by global warming. Curious, really.
You think that's curious? Get a load of this constitutional minimum wage increase (currently $7.25) that seems to have cleared the necessary 60% support:
Raises minimum wage to $10.00 per hour effective September 30th, 2021. Each September 30th thereafter, minimum wage shall increase by $1.00 per hour until the minimum wage reaches $15.00 per hour on September 30th, 2026. From that point forward, future minimum wage increases shall revert to being adjusted annually for inflation starting September 30th, 2027.
Watch out for that Biden fellah, though, I hear he might try to do a socialism.
I'm not feeling all that great about the IL Amendment to legalize a progressive income tax (currently we have a flat tax) but there are still a lot of votes to be tallied. It's just... so frustrating. Especially when the NO vote is so high in counties that do not make anywhere near $250k in median income.
The "no tax hike amendment" people came as close to just lying about shit as I've ever seen from an astroturfed lobying campaign. It honestly blew my mind
Ken Griffin is an amoral void. Which is to say, he's a billionaire.
I'm honestly a little disappointed there wasn't some group 4 shell companies removed from the Governor and Democrats to run ads about passing the 'Soak Chicago' amendment. It's not like downstate has any love for us high fallutin' richie riches living in our towers.
But AP was not yet comfortable with that call. I don't know that Fox has ever actually been wrong about an early call, but they are probably the most aggressive decision desk out there.
Fox is being really aggressive with the calls in the Dem favor and it's weirding me out.
The Fox News desk defended themselves when Karl Rove yelled at them about Ohio being called. I suspect what spooked them is that nobody else wanted to call it along with them.
But AP was not yet comfortable with that call. I don't know that Fox has ever actually been wrong about an early call, but they are probably the most aggressive decision desk out there.
Clearly I'd trade it away in a heartbeat for better news in other races but it's something.
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Whenever ya'll talk about Needles, all I can think of this old OCRemix:
In this situation "too close to call" means "strongly expected to be Biden, but not enough people want to stake their credibility on it."
To put it in DoomBrain terms, Florida still hasn't been called for Trump by most outlets. Biden's status in Arizona could be a smidge weaker than that and he wouldn't get any calls except from Fox and the Decision Desk.
Anybody getting excited about Bullock, don't. Looked at the counties in Montana, and the blue urban/college counties are pretty much in (95%), what's left is all the super-rural red counties that are sparse but do add up.
Senate is still in play. Bullock is holding onto his lead in Montana, we should get Michigan, Arizona, and Minnesota, and then NC, Georgia, and Maine are all possibilities for #50.
Well this could probably be going better but I gotta go to bed soon so I can log into work tomorrow. Hopefully my players don't all bug out of D&D cause they're all too anxious.
Georgia runoffs are probably going to determine the Senate.
Don't count out Maine. The ranked choice is a good thing for Gideon, but will take some time.
Man, if the Senate stays R you're never going to be able to fix anything. A Biden win without the Senate will only be taking the foot off the accelerator. You need to hit the breaks.
Sic transit gloria mundi.
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If the Senate comes down to Warnock/Loeffler, it will be the most expensive run by far. Holy shit. (this is bad)
A lot of states have been called on some networks and not on others. If you plug in all the states where any network has called the state for Biden or Trump, it shows Biden at 88 percent to win the Electoral College, Trump at 6 percent, and a 6 percent chance of a tie. But that depends on Biden winning Arizona and Minnesota, which ABC News hasn’t projected yet.
A lot of states have been called on some networks and not on others. If you plug in all the states where any network has called the state for Biden or Trump, it shows Biden at 88 percent to win the Electoral College, Trump at 6 percent, and a 6 percent chance of a tie. But that depends on Biden winning Arizona and Minnesota, which ABC News hasn’t projected yet.
Ok, I'm back. But I trust 538 as far as I can throw it at this point.
A lot of states have been called on some networks and not on others. If you plug in all the states where any network has called the state for Biden or Trump, it shows Biden at 88 percent to win the Electoral College, Trump at 6 percent, and a 6 percent chance of a tie. But that depends on Biden winning Arizona and Minnesota, which ABC News hasn’t projected yet.
Why doesn't he pretty much just say he fucked us but good, and that it's time to start prepping for four more years of this shit with no way to stop the shitshow now, and he'll be fucking off to nowheresville because this is the same thing he helped do in the year we can't talk about?
A lot of states have been called on some networks and not on others. If you plug in all the states where any network has called the state for Biden or Trump, it shows Biden at 88 percent to win the Electoral College, Trump at 6 percent, and a 6 percent chance of a tie. But that depends on Biden winning Arizona and Minnesota, which ABC News hasn’t projected yet.
Ok, I'm back. But I trust 538 as far as I can throw it at this point.
Star Tribune and Pioneer Press are both calling MN for Biden.
Edit: For context, the two major papers in the state.
A lot of states have been called on some networks and not on others. If you plug in all the states where any network has called the state for Biden or Trump, it shows Biden at 88 percent to win the Electoral College, Trump at 6 percent, and a 6 percent chance of a tie. But that depends on Biden winning Arizona and Minnesota, which ABC News hasn’t projected yet.
Ok, I'm back. But I trust 538 as far as I can throw it at this point.
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Unless Bullock pulls it off or something weird happens in Alaska...it'll come down to Georgia runoff(s).
Turtle-Boy still leads Senate, country could go either way at this point.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
*laughs helplessly*
this
fucking
year and/or administration
And they deleted the tweet where they said Fox retracted it, so, chaos reigns.
Stop watching the tire fire? Hell add me on Steam if you want to play something as a distraction or something.
(she says, having caught up with the thread she wasn't intending to read :P)
This doesn't feel like 2016, but it's too close for my personal peace of mind. Could be very bad, could be ok. OTOH this is what the non-blowout "It's close so Trump whines about stopping the count and everyone tells him to fuck off" scenarios looked like, so. It probably helps my internal anxiety calculus that I had written off FL and GA before the night started.
This one hurts. Absolute dominance by corporations buying a referendum win.
Not the worst prop outcome, either.
It's looking like cash bail won.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Clearly I'd trade it away in a heartbeat for better news in other races but it's something.
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Ken Griffin is an amoral void. Which is to say, he's a billionaire.
I'm honestly a little disappointed there wasn't some group 4 shell companies removed from the Governor and Democrats to run ads about passing the 'Soak Chicago' amendment. It's not like downstate has any love for us high fallutin' richie riches living in our towers.
Sucks shit, but not exactly surprised. TV was absolutely stuffed to the gills with Yes-22 ads and I literally never saw a single No-on-22 ad.
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Fox is being really aggressive with the calls in the Dem favor and it's weirding me out.
Take care of yourselves, try not to doom spiral, its gonna be ok or not but we won't know either way for at least a day or two.
Love you all, thanks for keeping me grounded and see you tomorrow.
Compared to 2016 this is a million times better for the record.
Besides the literal Decision Desk, at least.
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Needles!
Fox is Lucy, Charlie is the Dems, and not pictured are the thousands of right-wingers busting a gut as they jerk us around like cats chasing a toy.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
It really seems like that system does more harm than good.
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In this situation "too close to call" means "strongly expected to be Biden, but not enough people want to stake their credibility on it."
To put it in DoomBrain terms, Florida still hasn't been called for Trump by most outlets. Biden's status in Arizona could be a smidge weaker than that and he wouldn't get any calls except from Fox and the Decision Desk.
Jokes on them, virus doesn't give a crap about who 'owns the libs'
Wayne County 2016: +290k D votes out of 750k cast
Wayne County tonight: +40k D votes out of 300k cast
They're counting election day first then early, which is going to give us the same red mirage as Ohio gave us a blue mirage.
It's 12:40 AM and Texas hasn't been called.
That's a victory plain and simple. Embrace that as something concrete when everything else you want to grasp is still in the air.
Man, if the Senate stays R you're never going to be able to fix anything. A Biden win without the Senate will only be taking the foot off the accelerator. You need to hit the breaks.
In CA at least. Other states seem to do better with it. (mostly).
Ok, I'm back. But I trust 538 as far as I can throw it at this point.
And based on the candidates, and the election GOTV machine that Stacey Abrams has built in Georgia, I don't feel too bad about it.
Why doesn't he pretty much just say he fucked us but good, and that it's time to start prepping for four more years of this shit with no way to stop the shitshow now, and he'll be fucking off to nowheresville because this is the same thing he helped do in the year we can't talk about?
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Star Tribune and Pioneer Press are both calling MN for Biden.
Edit: For context, the two major papers in the state.
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