Just a reminder that Laura Kelly's opponent for the election that made her Governor, was Kris f'n Kobach, basically concentrated Republicanism in a suit.
And he lost. In Kansas.
People say local and state elections aren't important. This is proof positive, of why it is. Because Governor Kelly got this done, and Kobach would have never let it get this far.
A Tennessee DA is letting abusers walk free because he doesn't consider LGBT marriages marriage. Also advocating country clerks break the law and refuse marriage licensing
Many years back, there was a Simpsons episode that featured a pride parade. The people in the parade were chanting "we're here, we're queer, get used to it". The Simpsons family were standing watching the parade, and replied back that they were used to it; the parade had been going on annually for years. The chanters replied with a dejected sigh, apparently hoping there was still a battle to be fought.
That episode has not aged well.
Sic transit gloria mundi.
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TetraNitroCubaneThe DjinneratorAt the bottom of a bottleRegistered Userregular
I am sorry to bring this thread back, because I know my heart always sinks when I see it. But this feels important.
The Trump administration took its hardest line yet to legalize anti-gay discrimination on Friday when it asked the Supreme Court to declare that federal law allows private companies to fire workers based only on their sexual orientation.
An amicus brief filed by the Justice Department weighed in on two cases involving gay workers and what is meant by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bans discrimination "because of sex.” The administration argued courts nationwide should stop reading the civil rights law to protect gay, lesbian, and bisexual workers from bias because it was not originally intended to do so.
That view conflicts with some lower court rulings that found targeting someone for their sexual orientation is an illegal form of both sex discrimination and sex stereotyping under Title VII. Those courts have found, to illustrate the point, that a gay man wouldn't be targeted if he were instead a woman dating a man; thus he faced discrimination because of his sex.
But the administration said in its brief Friday that Title VII’s ban on sex discrimination only prohibits unequal treatment between "biological sexes,” as it argued last week in a related brief against transgender rights, in which the Justice Department said companies should be able to fire people because they are transgender as well.
It's not like we didn't see this coming, but it's still giving me an honest to god panic attack.
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It's with sadness and fear that I bump this thread again. I'm sorry if this is inappropraite, but I don't see any other thread in which to post this, and I sort of need to howl into the void.
The Trump administration has finalized a Department of Health and Human Services administrative rule rolling back health care discrimination protections for LGBTQ people, according to an HHS press release. The rule was released Friday, June 12, the fourth anniversary of the Pulse shooting, which left 49 victims, including many queer and trans people, dead in an Orlando, Florida, nightclub.
First proposed in May 2019, the rule reverses an Obama-era interpretation that sex discrimination under Section 1557 of the Affordable Care Act applied to discrimination against queer and trans people, as well as people who are seeking or have had an abortion.
“HHS will enforce Section 1557 by returning to the government’s interpretation of sex discrimination according to the plain meaning of the word ‘sex’ as male or female and as determined by biology,” reads the agency’s press release.
The timing of this announcement is deliberate and chilling, and I am not taking it well today. I was on the edge of transitioning and coming out when Trump was elected, and after he was, I decided it was safer to hide and cower in fear. It's been gut wrenching to watch this all go down, and continue to go down, with their obvious and pointed hatred so naked, and so obvious.
This Administration has lost nearly 4/5ths of it's Rules changes in Court, so hopefully the inevitable lawsuit against this is similarly victorious. Or the injunction lasts into the Biden presidency and he rolls it back to the Obama understanding without it ever having gone into effect.
As in many other instances, with them the cruelty is the point.
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Also, standing reminder that being defeated in court takes time, money, effort, and mental fortitude. It doesn't fucking matter if they will eventually see this ruling overturned, it still does fucking damage RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.
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Also, standing reminder that being defeated in court takes time, money, effort, and mental fortitude. It doesn't fucking matter if they will eventually see this ruling overturned, it still does fucking damage RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.
They just openly want to kill me.
Fuck them all. GOP delenda est
fuck gendered marketing
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Also, standing reminder that being defeated in court takes time, money, effort, and mental fortitude. It doesn't fucking matter if they will eventually see this ruling overturned, it still does fucking damage RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.
Agreed.
Let’s be blunt, laws and regulations don’t actually do anything to directly stop bad actors, but they do (1) provide victims with recourse and (2) the message that the state is on their side. Regardless if (1) is reinstated in court, (2) is explicitly gone as long as these murderous white supremacist fascists are in power. And that matters.
The specific ruling only applies to Title VII, but the opinion's reasoning would seem to extend all sex discrimination protections to cover all gender identities.
An amicus brief filed by the Justice Department weighed in on two cases involving gay workers and what is meant by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bans discrimination "because of sex.” The administration argued courts nationwide should stop reading the civil rights law to protect gay, lesbian, and bisexual workers from bias because it was not originally intended to do so.
I wonder if they've noticed that that's a very dangerous argument to give a precedent to.
This one about freedom to bear arms probably wasn't intended to refer to semi automatics and machine guns and grenade launchers and so on.
An amicus brief filed by the Justice Department weighed in on two cases involving gay workers and what is meant by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bans discrimination "because of sex.” The administration argued courts nationwide should stop reading the civil rights law to protect gay, lesbian, and bisexual workers from bias because it was not originally intended to do so.
I wonder if they've noticed that that's a very dangerous argument to give a precedent to.
This one about freedom to bear arms probably wasn't intended to refer to semi automatics and machine guns and grenade launchers and so on.
Well, only if you care about things like "logical consistency" or "precedent", and that sort of high-falutin' talk is dangerous intellectualism to this SCOTUS.
The only thing that please me more than the way Roberts and Gorsich(!) voted is the decision itself.
Summary for people that can't watch YouTube?
"Federal civil rights law protects gay, lesbian and transgender workers, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.
The landmark ruling will extend protections to millions of workers nationwide and is a defeat for the Trump administration, which argued that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act that bars discrimination based on sex did not extend to claims of gender identity and sexual orientation.
The 6-3 opinion was written by Justice Neil Gorsuch and joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and the court's four liberal justices."
The 11th circuit has gone completely off the rails and now deems medical abuse as protected by the first amendment.
Slate staff writer:
11th Circuit rules that bans on anti-LGBTQ "conversion therapy" violate the First Amendment. 2–1 decision, both judges in the majority appointed by Trump. A really awful and frightening decision. https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/f
I’d underline this about the radicalism of this 11th Cir conversion therapy decision: it’s only about *licensure* of therapists. The panel majority is saying the 1A forbids authorities regulating this harmful practice among people it grants licenses to.
The majority demands more "research"- which the medical community rightfully refuses to do, considering it unethical. Not that the 11th's judges would ever be satisfied, of course.
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Jesus Christ.
This "bigotry and hatred are protected speech" bullshit is really getting fucking old.
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This "bigotry and hatred are protected speech" bullshit is really getting fucking old.
Sadly this is the new, and so far pretty successful because of conservative courts, tactic they are using to enshrine their ideology into law. It's gonna be this for the foreseeable future until the composition of the courts gets changed.
The usual suspects are claiming this is a legit First Amendment issue which is just..what. This is about licensing therapists. The entire profession is speech. So. Either you can license them, and thereby restrict what they can say, or you can't. Oh wait you're not trying to overturn licensing? Just claim this is an exception for reasons? Get fucked. Arrg.
The usual suspects are claiming this is a legit First Amendment issue which is just..what. This is about licensing therapists. The entire profession is speech. So. Either you can license them, and thereby restrict what they can say, or you can't. Oh wait you're not trying to overturn licensing? Just claim this is an exception for reasons? Get fucked. Arrg.
Yeah, I'm getting more and more a "cheerleading for Omelas" vibe from the free speech "absolutist" crowd. Fuck the fact that conversion therapy does real harm to those subjected to it, making sure that free speech is in no way impeded is more important.
The 11th circuit has gone completely off the rails and now deems medical abuse as protected by the first amendment.
Slate staff writer:
11th Circuit rules that bans on anti-LGBTQ "conversion therapy" violate the First Amendment. 2–1 decision, both judges in the majority appointed by Trump. A really awful and frightening decision. https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/f
I’d underline this about the radicalism of this 11th Cir conversion therapy decision: it’s only about *licensure* of therapists. The panel majority is saying the 1A forbids authorities regulating this harmful practice among people it grants licenses to.
The majority demands more "research"- which the medical community rightfully refuses to do, considering it unethical. Not that the 11th's judges would ever be satisfied, of course.
There is still on going research into conversion therapy. I know the STEM field defines research to be purely about experimentation, but therapy research looks a lot different for a number of good reasons. There have been articles published this year about the process and how harmful it is. There will be continued research into the effects of the therapy over the short and long term as banning it doesn't prevent it from happening. The research can be broadly lumped into 2 types of results. The first one we can call "Holy shit y'all won't believe how fucked up these people are after enduring this torture," and "We really think it is cool to torture children." I can't say I see this changing anytime soon. Fuck these guys.
Edit: Slight edits for less snark since I wasn't trying to direct it at any posters here, but the universe at large.
In non-Trump lame duck news, Tulsi Gabbard continues to be a shitbird during her own lame duck. Specifically she's trying to amend Title IX to make it illegal for trans women to play sports.
The Department of Justice has submitted a proposal to the White House to change the way they enforce Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
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The change would specifically eliminate “disparate impact” protections for minorities. This is one of the most important tools in civil rights cases, because it doesn’t require plaintiffs to prove intent to discriminate. Instead, it covers instances where policies have a different impact on minority groups.
For example, one of the most famous of these types of cases involved literacy tests for voting that was meant to prevent Black people from voting. Because they had frequently been forced out of schools, this put Black people at a disadvantage. The law didn’t specifically single out Black Americans, but its effects took away their right to vote more than others.
The Department of Justice has submitted a proposal to the White House to change the way they enforce Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
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The change would specifically eliminate “disparate impact” protections for minorities. This is one of the most important tools in civil rights cases, because it doesn’t require plaintiffs to prove intent to discriminate. Instead, it covers instances where policies have a different impact on minority groups.
For example, one of the most famous of these types of cases involved literacy tests for voting that was meant to prevent Black people from voting. Because they had frequently been forced out of schools, this put Black people at a disadvantage. The law didn’t specifically single out Black Americans, but its effects took away their right to vote more than others.
this is one that needs reversing, ASAP.
I can't see how it would even make it through what I assume is the rule-making process for this kind of thing before Biden is in charge and just kills it. But maybe it can move faster then that.
The proposed change was quietly submitted by the department last month and bypassed the normal federal rule-making process that requires the government to publish the change and allow for public comment. It was one of former Attorney General Bill Barr’s last acts.
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Just a reminder that Laura Kelly's opponent for the election that made her Governor, was Kris f'n Kobach, basically concentrated Republicanism in a suit.
And he lost. In Kansas.
People say local and state elections aren't important. This is proof positive, of why it is. Because Governor Kelly got this done, and Kobach would have never let it get this far.
A Tennessee DA is letting abusers walk free because he doesn't consider LGBT marriages marriage. Also advocating country clerks break the law and refuse marriage licensing
That episode has not aged well.
It's not like we didn't see this coming, but it's still giving me an honest to god panic attack.
The Trump administration will now allow doctors to discriminate against LGBTQ people.
The timing of this announcement is deliberate and chilling, and I am not taking it well today. I was on the edge of transitioning and coming out when Trump was elected, and after he was, I decided it was safer to hide and cower in fear. It's been gut wrenching to watch this all go down, and continue to go down, with their obvious and pointed hatred so naked, and so obvious.
Like if he were going to kick a puppy, he would definitely do it on national animal rights day.
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As in many other instances, with them the cruelty is the point.
They just openly want to kill me.
Fuck them all. GOP delenda est
Agreed.
Let’s be blunt, laws and regulations don’t actually do anything to directly stop bad actors, but they do (1) provide victims with recourse and (2) the message that the state is on their side. Regardless if (1) is reinstated in court, (2) is explicitly gone as long as these murderous white supremacist fascists are in power. And that matters.
"The only real politics I knew was that if a guy liked Hitler, I’d beat the stuffing out of him and that would be it." -- Jack Kirby
The only thing that please me more than the way Roberts and Gorsich(!) voted is the decision itself.
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You had to say that.
**looks around waiting for something horrendous to happen**
Man, everything else is on fire. The horrendous has already happened.
I wonder if they've noticed that that's a very dangerous argument to give a precedent to.
This one about freedom to bear arms probably wasn't intended to refer to semi automatics and machine guns and grenade launchers and so on.
Well, only if you care about things like "logical consistency" or "precedent", and that sort of high-falutin' talk is dangerous intellectualism to this SCOTUS.
Summary for people that can't watch YouTube?
"Federal civil rights law protects gay, lesbian and transgender workers, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.
The landmark ruling will extend protections to millions of workers nationwide and is a defeat for the Trump administration, which argued that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act that bars discrimination based on sex did not extend to claims of gender identity and sexual orientation.
The 6-3 opinion was written by Justice Neil Gorsuch and joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and the court's four liberal justices."
(From video description)
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Clearly they were tipped off as to this decision early and did what they always do
Slate staff writer:
Lawdog with more input:
The majority demands more "research"- which the medical community rightfully refuses to do, considering it unethical. Not that the 11th's judges would ever be satisfied, of course.
This "bigotry and hatred are protected speech" bullshit is really getting fucking old.
This is like saying that licensed physicians should be allowed to perform nonconsensual surgery without anesthesia
It’s immensely harmful, a clear violation of ethics, and is in no way “speech”
But they're just talking (actual argument in the majority). The dissent was...displeased:
Sadly this is the new, and so far pretty successful because of conservative courts, tactic they are using to enshrine their ideology into law. It's gonna be this for the foreseeable future until the composition of the courts gets changed.
Yeah, I'm getting more and more a "cheerleading for Omelas" vibe from the free speech "absolutist" crowd. Fuck the fact that conversion therapy does real harm to those subjected to it, making sure that free speech is in no way impeded is more important.
There is still on going research into conversion therapy. I know the STEM field defines research to be purely about experimentation, but therapy research looks a lot different for a number of good reasons. There have been articles published this year about the process and how harmful it is. There will be continued research into the effects of the therapy over the short and long term as banning it doesn't prevent it from happening. The research can be broadly lumped into 2 types of results. The first one we can call "Holy shit y'all won't believe how fucked up these people are after enduring this torture," and "We really think it is cool to torture children." I can't say I see this changing anytime soon. Fuck these guys.
Edit: Slight edits for less snark since I wasn't trying to direct it at any posters here, but the universe at large.
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/reps-gabbard-and-mullin-introduce-bill-ensure-title-ix-protections-women-and
Yeah, no.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/01/donald-trump-tries-roll-back-discrimination-protections-way-door/
this is one that needs reversing, ASAP.
I can't see how it would even make it through what I assume is the rule-making process for this kind of thing before Biden is in charge and just kills it. But maybe it can move faster then that.