fundamentally adc has been "get jumped first by idiots with a thousand gapclosers" every teamfight for like, what, 5? years
dont see that changing
uh no now we can play Kai'sa and Samira and jump headfirst into the threats ourselves tvym
enemy team doesn't need gapclosers to help me int, what is this, 2018
To be fair, Tristana is the OG YOLO.
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My Xayah games didn't go as well this morning. I got absolutely dumpstered by a Jhin and a Kai'sa who were both much, much better ADCs than me. I think my biggest problem was I was focusing on playing less passive in lansing phase, which translated into "get stupid, get dead, get snowballed on", and then I struggled to figure out how to play from behind from there. It was still hella fun, I still want to play more Xayah.
fundamentally adc has been "get jumped first by idiots with a thousand gapclosers" every teamfight for like, what, 5? years
dont see that changing
uh no now we can play Kai'sa and Samira and jump headfirst into the threats ourselves tvym
enemy team doesn't need gapclosers to help me int, what is this, 2018
To be fair, Tristana is the OG YOLO.
Oh true
For a while I was self-banned from playing adcs with any mobility because I will use it to int, so I didn’t play tristana much until a couple years ago.
But even on an immobile adc I will still flash forward (because flash+4th shot is the most enormously satisfying thing) so the self-ban was not helpful
My Xayah games didn't go as well this morning. I got absolutely dumpstered by a Jhin and a Kai'sa who were both much, much better ADCs than me. I think my biggest problem was I was focusing on playing less passive in lansing phase, which translated into "get stupid, get dead, get snowballed on", and then I struggled to figure out how to play from behind from there. It was still hella fun, I still want to play more Xayah.
Kai’sa you should be able to bully in lane (assuming equal help from supports) but Jhin should beat you. In general as I’m sure you’ve noticed, Xayah can get a lot out of zoning with feathers—make sure there’s always some territory where they can’t walk forward to trade without getting rooted! I think she feels a bit unique to play because so much of her threat is the zone rather than actual damage from trading (like you can’t walk up and try to trade with cait or Jhin of Lucian—they will win that unless you are quite ahead—but you can make it so they can’t walk forwards, so you feel really safe and strong.)
I really like Xayah—her damage output is crazy and her feather stuff is interesting but not so complex as to be unmanageable
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I like a lot about xayah but I can’t gel with her animations so I’m terrible at her
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So far today I have won or helped win lane phase in every ranked game but eventually lost because every other lane fed out the ass.
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jhin kinda beats everyone right now, but the nerfs he's getting look to be kinda brutal.
xayah i just find so hard to play without ER. she's so mana and cdr hungry it was basically a perfect item for her. the Q-AA-E combo is really satisfying tho, very few adcs get that quick catch and burst sort of combo.
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fundamentally adc has been "get jumped first by idiots with a thousand gapclosers" every teamfight for like, what, 5? years
dont see that changing
uh no now we can play Kai'sa and Samira and jump headfirst into the threats ourselves tvym
enemy team doesn't need gapclosers to help me int, what is this, 2018
if ur not inting ur not trying
health is a resource. if u lose a game without spending as much of it as possible u gave up
my pyke support started sickle, did that for about 10 minutes, then switched to spaulders but i literally never saw him in lane.
only ended up with 800g on his support item at the end of the game at 36 minutes. we won and aside from some 3/4v1s in lane where i got ate was one of the better jinx games i've had this preseason. i don't really understand how this game works lol.
fundamentally adc has been "get jumped first by idiots with a thousand gapclosers" every teamfight for like, what, 5? years
dont see that changing
uh no now we can play Kai'sa and Samira and jump headfirst into the threats ourselves tvym
enemy team doesn't need gapclosers to help me int, what is this, 2018
if ur not inting ur not trying
health is a resource. if u lose a game without spending as much of it as possible u gave up
This is why I karthus. You think you killed me, but I'm doing damage for 7 seconds and have an ult. Jokes on you for killing me.
I'm actually working on learning Vi Mid currently, I forgot how much fun she is to play.
Knock knock open up the door IT'S PUNCHES.
People really underestimate how much damage her E's blast can do through minions, and how big the hitbox on it is. And with a Doran's Shield (and Vi's innate health regen being silly), you can heal through most trades. If you get to double-tap someone's face with E, you can basically chunk 'em.
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I'm actually working on learning Vi Mid currently, I forgot how much fun she is to play.
Knock knock open up the door IT'S PUNCHES.
People really underestimate how much damage her E's blast can do through minions, and how big the hitbox on it is. And with a Doran's Shield (and Vi's innate health regen being silly), you can heal through most trades. If you get to double-tap someone's face with E, you can basically chunk 'em.
Aside from being gender-swapped, here's an accurate portrayal of Vi gameplay:
The new crit item buffs have me theory crafting while I'm driving. Infinity Edge seems to be a clear 3rd item. Navori Quickblades have been awesome; I want to love Essence Reaver but it's still not getting great looks. I still want to try it out. It would look like Mythic, Essence, Infinity, Navori, defensive, boots->PD?
Edit: replace defensive with LDR/Mortal
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New changes to ADC stuff has me rethinking my Trist build.
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Jinx is going to be painfully locked into much too expensive Hurricane second. I don't really think any of the other zeal items can go in your 2nd slot because even with Kraken Slayer you need more AD. I had been making IE 2nd sometimes for just raw AD but that's dead now too. So Jinx is perma-trapped in Kraken Slayer -> Boots -> Hurricane -> IE.
I guess in games where you can really turret, Phantom Dancer 2nd could be viable, but Jinx has so much attack speed already now with Kraken and Boots and Q passive that you really have to be safe to turret to get much value out of it. You actually hit the attack speed cap with just KS + PD + Boots with max Q. Not getting Hurricane until 4th item is exceedingly painful though, Jinx is entirely balanced around the Fishbones Hurricane synergy making her an AoE hypercarry in teamfights who also has extreme pushing power with the ability to delete waves.
The new crit item buffs have me theory crafting while I'm driving. Infinity Edge seems to be a clear 3rd item. Navori Quickblades have been awesome; I want to love Essence Reaver but it's still not getting great looks. I still want to try it out. It would look like Mythic, Essence, Infinity, Navori, defensive, boots->PD?
Edit: replace defensive with LDR/Mortal
I haven't bought ER since the change, because when I want a sheen item, i just go triforce.
Is there a champ out there that is so hungry for cdr that they want the ER for sheen and they will get something else for their Mythic?
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The new crit item buffs have me theory crafting while I'm driving. Infinity Edge seems to be a clear 3rd item. Navori Quickblades have been awesome; I want to love Essence Reaver but it's still not getting great looks. I still want to try it out. It would look like Mythic, Essence, Infinity, Navori, defensive, boots->PD?
Edit: replace defensive with LDR/Mortal
I haven't bought ER since the change, because when I want a sheen item, i just go triforce.
Is there a champ out there that is so hungry for cdr that they want the ER for sheen and they will get something else for their Mythic?
Maybe a bruiser tank type whose CDs are very impactful and wants a damage item? Maybe Jarvan?
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The new crit item buffs have me theory crafting while I'm driving. Infinity Edge seems to be a clear 3rd item. Navori Quickblades have been awesome; I want to love Essence Reaver but it's still not getting great looks. I still want to try it out. It would look like Mythic, Essence, Infinity, Navori, defensive, boots->PD?
Edit: replace defensive with LDR/Mortal
I haven't bought ER since the change, because when I want a sheen item, i just go triforce.
Is there a champ out there that is so hungry for cdr that they want the ER for sheen and they will get something else for their Mythic?
Ah, yes, sorry, I was speaking in reference to ADCs that would utilize ER's crit as well as its spellblade and mana restore passive. Xayah, possibly Senna, etc
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Been dippin back into this after the end of the season and they really fucked up with this item rework, didn't they
Been dippin back into this after the end of the season and they really fucked up with this item rework, didn't they
Ya they broke everything again. I don't even know if I want to play certain champs now. I've been playing aram trying to figure it out, but I just feel weaker on almost every champ.
Even went so far as to install bitz.gg. God I hate that app so far.
How many people use blitz.gg? I haven't played ranked with it, and I know its all new items, but can't feel the runes and items are always wrong in aram?
Just thought I'd give it a try with the new items but a lot of the apps suggestions are just bad. Or maybe I'm bad and don't know how to itemize
How many people use blitz.gg? I haven't played ranked with it, and I know its all new items, but can't feel the runes and items are always wrong in aram?
Just thought I'd give it a try with the new items but a lot of the apps suggestions are just bad. Or maybe I'm bad and don't know how to itemize
I don't think it's calibrated for ARAM. You want to build much differently for ARAM than a normal game.
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How many people use blitz.gg? I haven't played ranked with it, and I know its all new items, but can't feel the runes and items are always wrong in aram?
Just thought I'd give it a try with the new items but a lot of the apps suggestions are just bad. Or maybe I'm bad and don't know how to itemize
I don't think it's calibrated for ARAM. You want to build much differently for ARAM than a normal game.
It is calibrated for ARAM. It has a separate setting for ARAM and for normals.
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Also winning a ranked match because their Mundo flashed to their carry while holding your Brand Ult both feels great and is a big whoof mood
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Just got an S in aram as fiddles, going in, enggaging, dying yet doing so much. I was honestly surpised with the S, thoght I died so much. But then my team all honored me. And I guess, maybe i just died smartly and kicked ass?
I dunno, post game felt so good.
Got a gemstone and a 520 champ, but I'll take the gemstone for sure.
I'm practicing Xayah for clash since I imagine Jhin will be banned
Building Kraken>Navori Quickblades>IE/Mortal Reminder>IE/Mortal Reminder/Mercurial Scimitar/dunno, GA or Lord Dominick's or maybe ER or maybe Bloodthirster
Playing under elo in flex queue so it's a shit show regardless but it does feel good. Just need to be cognizant of when you can and can't step up (basically I seldom want to trade early unless my support created a really strong advantage)
I'm practicing Xayah for clash since I imagine Jhin will be banned
Building Kraken>Navori Quickblades>IE/Mortal Reminder>IE/Mortal Reminder/Mercurial Scimitar/dunno, GA or maybe ER or maybe Bloodthirster
Playing under elo in flex queue so it's a shit show regardless but it does feel good. Just need to be cognizant of when you can and can't step up (basically I seldom want to trade early unless my support created a really strong advantage)
I'm guessing you have no twitch games. Just smurf and go ap twitch. That's still op right?
Want to free agent in clash this weekend but not really sure I have the time block. 1 year old daughter throws wrenches in everything. Even now, got to poo, but she's eating. So it's sit, squirm, and wait lol
I'm practicing Xayah for clash since I imagine Jhin will be banned
Building Kraken>Navori Quickblades>IE/Mortal Reminder>IE/Mortal Reminder/Mercurial Scimitar/dunno, GA or maybe ER or maybe Bloodthirster
Playing under elo in flex queue so it's a shit show regardless but it does feel good. Just need to be cognizant of when you can and can't step up (basically I seldom want to trade early unless my support created a really strong advantage)
Have you experimented with Collector for Dem Big E's? I wanted to, but had a few horrible games in a row and rage-queued Thresh to go ham-hooking.
I'm practicing Xayah for clash since I imagine Jhin will be banned
Building Kraken>Navori Quickblades>IE/Mortal Reminder>IE/Mortal Reminder/Mercurial Scimitar/dunno, GA or maybe ER or maybe Bloodthirster
Playing under elo in flex queue so it's a shit show regardless but it does feel good. Just need to be cognizant of when you can and can't step up (basically I seldom want to trade early unless my support created a really strong advantage)
I'm guessing you have no twitch games. Just smurf and go ap twitch. That's still op right?
I'm not interested in playing AP twitch--I find building crit satisfying. In general I don't play much twitch because I don't use his stealth well. I did play 2-3 games of him a week or two ago to get an S so I could get a lootbox; I did so now I don't have to play him for another year
oh And I forgot lord dominick's, above, let me edit that in.
I'm practicing Xayah for clash since I imagine Jhin will be banned
Building Kraken>Navori Quickblades>IE/Mortal Reminder>IE/Mortal Reminder/Mercurial Scimitar/dunno, GA or maybe ER or maybe Bloodthirster
Playing under elo in flex queue so it's a shit show regardless but it does feel good. Just need to be cognizant of when you can and can't step up (basically I seldom want to trade early unless my support created a really strong advantage)
Have you experimented with Collector for Dem Big E's? I wanted to, but had a few horrible games in a row and rage-queued Thresh to go ham-hooking.
idk, flat pen is good but so many games have these disgusting tanks that I feel like I should take lord dominick's for the arpen and giant slayer; not sure though.
I do like Essence Reaver on Xayah, but I think if she takes PoM it's not necessary, and Quickblades are super good.
If I'm wanting to edge deeper into ranked than placements, would I be well off to try Flex queue? I have heard it's less toxic overall. I just don't know if spamming normals is helping or hurting at this point.
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What is flex queue?
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To be fair, Tristana is the OG YOLO.
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Oh true
For a while I was self-banned from playing adcs with any mobility because I will use it to int, so I didn’t play tristana much until a couple years ago.
But even on an immobile adc I will still flash forward (because flash+4th shot is the most enormously satisfying thing) so the self-ban was not helpful
Kai’sa you should be able to bully in lane (assuming equal help from supports) but Jhin should beat you. In general as I’m sure you’ve noticed, Xayah can get a lot out of zoning with feathers—make sure there’s always some territory where they can’t walk forward to trade without getting rooted! I think she feels a bit unique to play because so much of her threat is the zone rather than actual damage from trading (like you can’t walk up and try to trade with cait or Jhin of Lucian—they will win that unless you are quite ahead—but you can make it so they can’t walk forwards, so you feel really safe and strong.)
I really like Xayah—her damage output is crazy and her feather stuff is interesting but not so complex as to be unmanageable
xayah i just find so hard to play without ER. she's so mana and cdr hungry it was basically a perfect item for her. the Q-AA-E combo is really satisfying tho, very few adcs get that quick catch and burst sort of combo.
if ur not inting ur not trying
health is a resource. if u lose a game without spending as much of it as possible u gave up
my pyke support started sickle, did that for about 10 minutes, then switched to spaulders but i literally never saw him in lane.
only ended up with 800g on his support item at the end of the game at 36 minutes. we won and aside from some 3/4v1s in lane where i got ate was one of the better jinx games i've had this preseason. i don't really understand how this game works lol.
This is why I karthus. You think you killed me, but I'm doing damage for 7 seconds and have an ult. Jokes on you for killing me.
Knock knock open up the door IT'S PUNCHES.
People really underestimate how much damage her E's blast can do through minions, and how big the hitbox on it is. And with a Doran's Shield (and Vi's innate health regen being silly), you can heal through most trades. If you get to double-tap someone's face with E, you can basically chunk 'em.
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Aside from being gender-swapped, here's an accurate portrayal of Vi gameplay:
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The new crit item buffs have me theory crafting while I'm driving. Infinity Edge seems to be a clear 3rd item. Navori Quickblades have been awesome; I want to love Essence Reaver but it's still not getting great looks. I still want to try it out. It would look like Mythic, Essence, Infinity, Navori, defensive, boots->PD?
Edit: replace defensive with LDR/Mortal
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I guess in games where you can really turret, Phantom Dancer 2nd could be viable, but Jinx has so much attack speed already now with Kraken and Boots and Q passive that you really have to be safe to turret to get much value out of it. You actually hit the attack speed cap with just KS + PD + Boots with max Q. Not getting Hurricane until 4th item is exceedingly painful though, Jinx is entirely balanced around the Fishbones Hurricane synergy making her an AoE hypercarry in teamfights who also has extreme pushing power with the ability to delete waves.
I haven't bought ER since the change, because when I want a sheen item, i just go triforce.
Is there a champ out there that is so hungry for cdr that they want the ER for sheen and they will get something else for their Mythic?
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Maybe a bruiser tank type whose CDs are very impactful and wants a damage item? Maybe Jarvan?
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Ah, yes, sorry, I was speaking in reference to ADCs that would utilize ER's crit as well as its spellblade and mana restore passive. Xayah, possibly Senna, etc
Ya they broke everything again. I don't even know if I want to play certain champs now. I've been playing aram trying to figure it out, but I just feel weaker on almost every champ.
Even went so far as to install bitz.gg. God I hate that app so far.
...man, lane is a *lot* easier when you enter it 2/0/1 due to the enemy team messing up the invade and eating a KNUCKLE SAMMICH.
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Just thought I'd give it a try with the new items but a lot of the apps suggestions are just bad. Or maybe I'm bad and don't know how to itemize
I don't think it's calibrated for ARAM. You want to build much differently for ARAM than a normal game.
It is calibrated for ARAM. It has a separate setting for ARAM and for normals.
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I dunno, post game felt so good.
Got a gemstone and a 520 champ, but I'll take the gemstone for sure.
Building Kraken>Navori Quickblades>IE/Mortal Reminder>IE/Mortal Reminder/Mercurial Scimitar/dunno, GA or Lord Dominick's or maybe ER or maybe Bloodthirster
Playing under elo in flex queue so it's a shit show regardless but it does feel good. Just need to be cognizant of when you can and can't step up (basically I seldom want to trade early unless my support created a really strong advantage)
I'm guessing you have no twitch games. Just smurf and go ap twitch. That's still op right?
Have you experimented with Collector for Dem Big E's? I wanted to, but had a few horrible games in a row and rage-queued Thresh to go ham-hooking.
I'm not interested in playing AP twitch--I find building crit satisfying. In general I don't play much twitch because I don't use his stealth well. I did play 2-3 games of him a week or two ago to get an S so I could get a lootbox; I did so now I don't have to play him for another year
oh And I forgot lord dominick's, above, let me edit that in.
idk, flat pen is good but so many games have these disgusting tanks that I feel like I should take lord dominick's for the arpen and giant slayer; not sure though.
If I'm wanting to edge deeper into ranked than placements, would I be well off to try Flex queue? I have heard it's less toxic overall. I just don't know if spamming normals is helping or hurting at this point.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Flex queue is just that, 5 man flex queue.