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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I am very much looking forward to going home to check out WandaVision tonight.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited January 2021
    Still think the first time he shows up in a PG-13 crossover he keeps censoring himself, someone else asks him why and he says they only get a limited number of f bombs to keep their rating and he’s saving it for a big moment.

    Then when the moment arrives, some other character, like Spider-Man, says it instead and he gets mad.

    Hugh Jackman walks out of the same dimensional portal that Deadpool did or whatever, looks directly into the camera, says "This is the last time I'm doing this, I don't even give a fuck," lights a cigar, then turns and blows the smoke directly in Deadpool's face with a huge shit-eating grin.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I honestly think it would be rad if Wanda is the reason for mutants being in the MCU and doing a reverse of no more mutants. Like, what a fun thing to do that slides them in perfectly.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Still think the first time he shows up in a PG-13 crossover he keeps censoring himself, someone else asks him why and he says they only get a limited number of f bombs to keep their rating and he’s saving it for a big moment.

    Then when the moment arrives, some other character, like Spider-Man, says it instead and he gets mad.

    Hugh Jackman walks out of the same dimensional portal that Deadpool did or whatever, looks directly into the camera, says "This is the last time I'm doing this, I don't even give a fuck," lights a cigar, then turns and blows the smoke directly in Deadpool's face with a huge shit-eating grin.

    If you gave Hugh Jackman bright yellow and blue (or yellow and brown) super hero tights, he would 100% do it again.

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Still think the first time he shows up in a PG-13 crossover he keeps censoring himself, someone else asks him why and he says they only get a limited number of f bombs to keep their rating and he’s saving it for a big moment.

    Then when the moment arrives, some other character, like Spider-Man, says it instead and he gets mad.

    Hugh Jackman walks out of the same dimensional portal that Deadpool did or whatever, looks directly into the camera, says "This is the last time I'm doing this, I don't even give a fuck," lights a cigar, then turns and blows the smoke directly in Deadpool's face with a huge shit-eating grin.

    If you gave Hugh Jackman bright yellow and blue (or yellow and brown) super hero tights, he would 100% do it again.

    Let Hugh Jackman eat cheeseburgers and live his life!

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    I honestly think it would be rad if Wanda is the reason for mutants being in the MCU and doing a reverse of no more mutants. Like, what a fun thing to do that slides them in perfectly.

    I've been wanting them to do this for a long while (my original pick I think was for her to get her hands on an Infinity stone and wishing for her brother back), and WandaVision seems like it would be a real good opportunity

    The show is already likely going to have her use her powers to reality warp her children into existence, why not 198 more mutants to go along with it?

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    actually a little peeved my disney + free year ended yesterday because I'll miss wandavision, but damn i can't justify the price for literally one show

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    Yes and no.

    Like, I think you could definitely lose something if it's just these mutants. It would have to be clearly defined as like, now humans are mutating and you gotta be worried about your eleven year old developing super powers from here on out.

    But I also think if you do it as a percentage of the population suddenly and inexplicably developing powers that they're not in full control of, you could definitely harness some of the world that hates and fears them.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

    Oh see I specifically wouldn't want this

    Having a bunch of competent superheroes (and villains and other) with fully realized backstories and lives and all that just appear feels like the bad way to do it to me

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    Since they're already dipping their toes into multiverse a with Doctor Strange and probably Spider-Man 3, what if they are gearing up to introduce mutants with a Secret Wars event dealing with the colliding multiverse? They could have Hugh Jackman cameo as Old Man Logan from one universe and bring Laura from Logan, then introduce a younger X-team from another universe. I think it could be fun also to have Laura from a universe where the X-Men were already legendary heroes helping lead the team.

    Sorry if that's too rambling, I was just thinking about how it could work. It would also have the added bonus of giving us a Thor-corps movie.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited January 2021
    Straightzi wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

    Oh see I specifically wouldn't want this

    Having a bunch of competent superheroes (and villains and other) with fully realized backstories and lives and all that just appear feels like the bad way to do it to me

    i guess i'm just trying to still have magneto still be able to have his backstory, specifically, in this scenario. he's the only one where the timing matters.

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    edited January 2021
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

    Oh see I specifically wouldn't want this

    Having a bunch of competent superheroes (and villains and other) with fully realized backstories and lives and all that just appear feels like the bad way to do it to me

    i guess i'm just trying to still have magneto still be able to have his backstory, specifically, in this scenario. he's the only one where the timing matters.

    hear me out now:

    ice detainee magneto

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Like, I say no Magneto or Xavier

    We've had enough Magneto and Xavier in the movies we've already seen

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    ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    WandaVision Ep 1
    a little more dry than I was expecting at first, but the hints at things amiss worked well, especially near the end of the dinner. I imagine the intrigue will really start to ramp up in subsequent episodes.

    I couldn't watch Ep2 because Disney+ is garbage for me when new shows are added. Picture keeps freezing constantly while the audio keeps going.

    Olsen and Bettany are great, it's nice to see them have more to do with their characters.

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    SproutSprout Registered User regular
    WandaVision Ep 1
    a little more dry than I was expecting at first, but the hints at things amiss worked well, especially near the end of the dinner. I imagine the intrigue will really start to ramp up in subsequent episodes.

    I couldn't watch Ep2 because Disney+ is garbage for me when new shows are added. Picture keeps freezing constantly while the audio keeps going.

    Olsen and Bettany are great, it's nice to see them have more to do with their characters.

    WandaVision
    I wonder if Wanda’s accent comes back as another sign of the illusion or whatever weakening. She hadn’t dropped it for Endgame, had she?

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    actually a little peeved my disney + free year ended yesterday because I'll miss wandavision, but damn i can't justify the price for literally one show

    Xbox Game Pass Ultimate comes with 1-month of Disney+ for free, and you can get 3 months of it for $1 if you've never subbed before: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-game-pass
    It won't let you watch the whole show probably though, depending on how slow they roll the episodes out

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Wandavision ep 1 and 2
    two moments that implicate that Wanda is subconsciously in charge I think: when vision's boss chokes everyone starts to freeze/loop until Wanda tells Vision to help. Wh n the beekeeper (AIM? Distorted antman trying to get into her vision? Did in hazmat suit?) turns up, Wanda says no and everything rewinds.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

    what if a portal opens and all the mutants from the gifted step into the mcu

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

    what if a portal opens and all the mutants from the gifted step into the mcu

    okay yes, awesome, do that

    anything for more of the gifted's polaris

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

    what if a portal opens and all the mutants from the gifted step into the mcu

    There are a few they could stand to leave behind

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Wandavision ep 1 and 2
    two moments that implicate that Wanda is subconsciously in charge I think: when vision's boss chokes everyone starts to freeze/loop until Wanda tells Vision to help. Wh n the beekeeper (AIM? Distorted antman trying to get into her vision? Did in hazmat suit?) turns up, Wanda says no and everything rewinds.
    My first thought it was Swarm.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    edited January 2021
    Straightzi wrote: »
    yeah the only mutant i'd okay with "always being there" is apocalypse

    everyone else is just a brand new mutant baby

    i want kate pryde falling through her bed for the first time, cyclops levelling a school, gambit blowing up a slammer in a heated game of pogs

    what if a portal opens and all the mutants from the gifted step into the mcu

    There are a few they could stand to leave behind

    if all we get are andy, polaris, the cuckoos, and john proudstar that's enough for me

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    The Gifted's Cuckoos were so good

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

    Oh see I specifically wouldn't want this

    Having a bunch of competent superheroes (and villains and other) with fully realized backstories and lives and all that just appear feels like the bad way to do it to me

    i guess i'm just trying to still have magneto still be able to have his backstory, specifically, in this scenario. he's the only one where the timing matters.

    hear me out now:

    ice detainee magneto

    Giving Magneto the Simon Phoenix treatment is the easiest solution to this particular problem, yes.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I've long argued for a Magneto who is still a survivor but not necessarily a Holocaust survivor

    However, a lot of people have pointed out that this might also look really bad, as Magneto is one of the most prominent Jewish comic book characters

    I think you could still do it - I would specifically make sure that a modernized Magneto is introduced alongside a Kate Pryde who is openly Jewish and whose family history is likely linked back to the Holocaust as well

    But it is a dicey choice regardless

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

    Oh see I specifically wouldn't want this

    Having a bunch of competent superheroes (and villains and other) with fully realized backstories and lives and all that just appear feels like the bad way to do it to me

    i guess i'm just trying to still have magneto still be able to have his backstory, specifically, in this scenario. he's the only one where the timing matters.

    hear me out now:

    ice detainee magneto

    Giving Magneto the Simon Phoenix treatment is the easiest solution to this particular problem, yes.

    ICE concentration camps, not cryo storage

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    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    actually a little peeved my disney + free year ended yesterday because I'll miss wandavision, but damn i can't justify the price for literally one show

    Xbox Game Pass Ultimate comes with 1-month of Disney+ for free, and you can get 3 months of it for $1 if you've never subbed before: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-game-pass
    It won't let you watch the whole show probably though, depending on how slow they roll the episodes out

    One episode a week, so activate this deal when the show is done rolling out for the lowest cost to see it. I think 9 episodes total with 2 out the first week.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I've long argued for a Magneto who is still a survivor but not necessarily a Holocaust survivor

    However, a lot of people have pointed out that this might also look really bad, as Magneto is one of the most prominent Jewish comic book characters

    I think you could still do it - I would specifically make sure that a modernized Magneto is introduced alongside a Kate Pryde who is openly Jewish and whose family history is likely linked back to the Holocaust as well

    But it is a dicey choice regardless

    Make his parents Holocaust survivors and make him a survivor of something else.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    i feel like you lose a lot of x-men's...everything if mutants are just suddenly there, instead of being born/human evolution

    I don’t think you have to, the power is based around reality, so reality just shifts so they’ve always been there, along with their backstories.

    Oh see I specifically wouldn't want this

    Having a bunch of competent superheroes (and villains and other) with fully realized backstories and lives and all that just appear feels like the bad way to do it to me

    i guess i'm just trying to still have magneto still be able to have his backstory, specifically, in this scenario. he's the only one where the timing matters.

    hear me out now:

    ice detainee magneto

    Giving Magneto the Simon Phoenix treatment is the easiest solution to this particular problem, yes.

    ICE concentration camps, not cryo storage

    Oh, ah, well, now there's egg on my face

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Honestly I had the same thought, but the use of "detainee" was the pertinent clue

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Wandavision eps 1 and 2
    The whole 50's sitcom thing was played a lot more straight than I had expected. Obviously things aren't alright, but I was definitely expecting it to go full color before the end of episode 2.

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    StempyStempy Registered User regular
    Chall wrote: »
    Since they're already dipping their toes into multiverse a with Doctor Strange and probably Spider-Man 3, what if they are gearing up to introduce mutants with a Secret Wars event dealing with the colliding multiverse? They could have Hugh Jackman cameo as Old Man Logan from one universe and bring Laura from Logan, then introduce a younger X-team from another universe. I think it could be fun also to have Laura from a universe where the X-Men were already legendary heroes helping lead the team.

    Sorry if that's too rambling, I was just thinking about how it could work. It would also have the added bonus of giving us a Thor-corps movie.

    They ARE doing a lot of multiverse stuff but I strongly think Marvel are going with a mostly traditional introduction to mutants.

    Not for nothing was there a whole scene in Endgame dedicated to show a huge wave of Radiation sweeping across the globe as a result of the Snap. That scene doesn’t really add anything else to the film and isn’t brought up again. (It’s used as foreshadowing that Thanos uses the stones again, but they’ve already tracked him down at this point.)

    Then you’ve got a 5 year gap and two more snaps in upstate New York. I can easily see this being used as a thing that alters some people’s DNA or some such. Now I think about it, tying it to the Snap could be a reason for Fear and Distrust of mutants.

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    McFodderMcFodder Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    Wandavision eps 1 and 2
    The whole 50's sitcom thing was played a lot more straight than I had expected. Obviously things aren't alright, but I was definitely expecting it to go full color before the end of episode 2.

    WandaVision first 2 eps
    I think the... sincerity? honesty? of the sitcom side is what made the little odd touches work so well, plus it was done well enough to get some real laughs out of us. Some real Rik Mayall energy in episode 2.
    Very excited to see where this goes.

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    SproutSprout Registered User regular
    McFodder wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    Wandavision eps 1 and 2
    The whole 50's sitcom thing was played a lot more straight than I had expected. Obviously things aren't alright, but I was definitely expecting it to go full color before the end of episode 2.

    WandaVision first 2 eps
    I think the... sincerity? honesty? of the sitcom side is what made the little odd touches work so well, plus it was done well enough to get some real laughs out of us. Some real Rik Mayall energy in episode 2.
    Very excited to see where this goes.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I've long argued for a Magneto who is still a survivor but not necessarily a Holocaust survivor

    However, a lot of people have pointed out that this might also look really bad, as Magneto is one of the most prominent Jewish comic book characters

    I think you could still do it - I would specifically make sure that a modernized Magneto is introduced alongside a Kate Pryde who is openly Jewish and whose family history is likely linked back to the Holocaust as well

    But it is a dicey choice regardless

    It made sense when the character was introduced, a mere 20 years after WW2, but as we move further and further away from that fixed date, it gets harder and harder to justify - even when we're dealing with comic book tricks and/or sliding timelines - how he's still around.

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