In an unprecedented move Scott Morrison has announced that he doesn't represent women, effectively stepping down from 51% of his role, and has appointed Marise Payne to the position of "Prime Minister for Women"
(Tegan George is a politics reporter for Channel 10)
...Fuck's sake.
At this point, there are two possible answers, given the multitude of failure, over weeks.
Scott Morrison is capable of change, but chooses (for whatever reason) not to.
Scott Morrison is incapable of change.
The former is sociopathic. The latter is psycopathic.
Neither is preferable. Neither is fucking acceptable in the leader of a country.
Yeah agree there is no good answer to this question and him getting away seemingly Scot (heh) free sets a really bad tone. I would hate to see things slide right down to ‘grab em by the p*****’ level
In an unprecedented move Scott Morrison has announced that he doesn't represent women, effectively stepping down from 51% of his role, and has appointed Marise Payne to the position of "Prime Minister for Women"
(Tegan George is a politics reporter for Channel 10)
...Fuck's sake.
At this point, there are two possible answers, given the multitude of failure, over weeks.
Scott Morrison is capable of change, but chooses (for whatever reason) not to.
Scott Morrison is incapable of change.
The former is sociopathic. The latter is psycopathic.
Neither is preferable. Neither is fucking acceptable in the leader of a country.
This doesn't sound like it's saying much mind; By this logic, we'd label the government sociopathic too, which might be appropriate.
I would not be at all surprised if sociopathy in government was comparable to the stats for sociopathy among CEOs.
(Not that sociopathy is inherently bad. Leaders of large groups need to distance themselves from those under them somewhat in order to avoid stress. Sociopaths are quite good at that and sociopath≠evil. Many war heroes have been people who have handled situations better than most, being able to get the job done as their comrades were cut down by their side. It can be useful and good.)
But Morrison appears to be lacking in empathy and too stupid to hide it which is just unforgivable. We like our politicians to at least pretend to be good people and care about others.
The Australian Labor Party is like, the oldest (or one of the oldest) continuously extant union parties in the world. The only reason we enjoy a decent standard of living in both countries, (admittedly NZ has lost it’s way re:unions and Australia is heading that way) is because of our socialist parties.
You think Labor are socialists, am I reading that right?
It’s actually a pretty sad indictment of our media landscape and mainstream cultures if you think socialism isn’t relevant to Australian and New Zealand politics
That was more about going off-topic but if the mods are ok with that in this thread it's not a problem to go into here. Socialism is relevant but I don't see it as a huge impact on politics, and what kind of socialism are we talking? Socialism comes in all shapes and sizes, there's not a single definition for socialism. What I do know is like any modern state in the west Australia isn't going to pay much attention by bringing up Lenin. He was a left wing dictator, he has no credibility.
E: but yeah I do agree with you in the sense that the blight that is neoliberalism is ascending
Neoliberalism has been dominant since WWII, if not before.
Not the original poster, but yeah. Yeah, I do think that Labor are socialist. What sort of socialism? Well, pulled directly from their website they're:
'The Australian Labor Party is a democratic socialist party and has the objective of the
democratic socialisation of industry, production, distribution and exchange, to the
extent necessary to eliminate exploitation and other anti-social features in these fields.'
and in their Constitution they say that they are for:
'[The] redistribution of political and economic power so that all members of society have
the opportunity to participate in the shaping and control of the institutions and
relationships which determine their lives'
'establishment and development of public enterprises, based upon federal, state
and other forms of social ownership, in appropriate sectors of the economy'
There's a lot more, right here in their constitution - they're not hard line, no private property style socialists (they even call that out as a point) but they're definitely socialists.
Are they really pushing hard in achieving these goals? Are they particularly effective at the moment, given the uphill battle they fight against the Murdoch press and a reasonably uncharismatic leader for the last while? No. But to say they're not socialists and not having a huge imapct on politics is a bit odd, given that the Labor part championed Award wages, Penalty Rates, Supeannuation and Maternity Leave to name only a few.
"Those 3.1 million vaccines were not supplied to Australia, and that explains the difference between the numbers.
"We made that very clear back in February, and we made it very clear that they were indicative figures we were working to at that time."
Agriculture Minister David Littleproud went further, accused the EU of cutting Australia "short" of the vaccine.
"We are 3 million short at the moment," he told the Nine Network.
"We were 3 million short by the EU.
"They cut us short."
The chief spokesman for the European Commission – the EU's executive branch – told a press conference on Tuesday (local time) that the only vaccine export authorisation request that had been denied to Australia was the highly publicised one of 250,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine from Italy last month.
A complete fucking shambles. Libs showing that same keen skill of project management we saw with the NBN for the vaccine rollout.
The fundamental problem for Morrison is that with every other announce-do-nothing pattern they've used it's been for something abstract "100 million for the arts" that then disappears into bureaucracy and months pass and no-one is sure if it happened or not. There's very few places to hide when they don't follow through with actually getting the vaccine they told us we already had.
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Even the replacement - 20 million more doses of Pfizer, he didn’t mention that we won’t get them until at earliest the end of the year.
Even the replacement - 20 million more doses of Pfizer, he didn’t mention that we won’t get them until at earliest the end of the year.
There's no reason to think he's gotten anything with that timetable.
It's another ScoMo dissolving promise like all the others.
By the end of the year the US will be closing in on full vaccination, so there's probably going to be a whole lot of extra Pfizer flying around to first world countries who can pay.
Remember people, in the midst of a prosecution about the toxic culture in the SAS resulting in numerous war crimes, with the figure at the center being discovered to have tried to silence witnesses and who stockpiled classified material by burying it in his backyard...the Coalition finds it really important to stress that the military is all about killing people to defend Australian values: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/military-reminded-lethal-violence-defend-australian-values/100066796
Reading up on the (NZ) government changes to health care... I think they're a good idea? Certainly, the DHB system seems to have basically just led to chronic underfunding, with central government then frequently blaming the DHBs for overrunning their budgets, while never addressing their funding formulation, so it seems like it can't really go backwards from that.
I'm a bit dubious honestly. I don't think the DHB model has functioned particularly well, but I agree with Ian Powell here, that this is just shifting the bureaucracy elsewhere:
DHBs are actually being scapegoated for the pressures on the system that are causing difficulties such as underfunding, such as the social determinants of health such as poverty ... such as workforces shortages.
The reality is that healthcare is underfunded. Shuffling reporting lines and management responsibilities around is not a solution in itself.
I'm a bit dubious honestly. I don't think the DHB model has functioned particularly well, but I agree with Ian Powell here, that this is just shifting the bureaucracy elsewhere:
DHBs are actually being scapegoated for the pressures on the system that are causing difficulties such as underfunding, such as the social determinants of health such as poverty ... such as workforces shortages.
The reality is that healthcare is underfunded. Shuffling reporting lines and management responsibilities around is not a solution in itself.
This is true, but the changes address one of the reasons that underfunding has been allowed to continue, I think - particularly under National, they've pointed to headline figures of 'increase in funding', while blaming the DHBs for overrunning budget, or restricted budget. I think (hope) that game becomes harder to pull off when they aren't pointing at a separate, arcanely elected body, and instead just have the national health agency saying 'we don't have enough money'. I mean, let's face it, the chronic insufficient funding in our healthcare has been around for as long as I've been alive, so maybe I'm just hopeful that removing some of the opacity allows it to be finally politically untenable for it to continue.
Not to doomsday but I feel like the conservative response would be a free market solution.
Thus far, voter response to that has been a resounding 'fuck off', which I hope remains the case.
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The DHB structure really was a solution for a different time. The DHBs made sense to address some of the main failings and shortcomings of the system as it used to exist in the 80's/90's, but their own shortcomings and inflexibility are beginning to to creak as they become less able to address the new needs of a vastly different population and environment than existed 30 years ago. They have served their purpose, and experiences like the ongoing pandemic have showed up weaknesses that they simply are not well equiped to address as the health system continues to evolve.
Pretty much: DHBs always had a built-in use-by date. At some point, they were always going to become an outdated response to a problem that no longer exists. Sooner or later we were always going to need to restructure the health system to address the next set of problems that we need to resolve; in light of this, the real questions are:
is this restructure too much, or too soon? Could we have still gotten sufficient benefit out of the existing circumstances than we might lose with the disruption of a reorgansiation?
is the proposed set of changes actually fit to address the new set of constraints and weaknesses on the health system?
The DHBs have been getting long in the tooth for years. This Pandemic has only futher enforced and exacerbated that.
The new set up sounds like it might address the current failings better, and build a better platform from which to respond at a national level to the needs of New Zealand's population.
Change is scary to me. It might be good might be bad. But I don't have confidence.
Still, if it means not voting for DHBs that would be one guaranteed plus.
OMG THIS
It's the worst game of pin the tail on the cat ever
It's usually work out whether the person is a crazed anti-vaxxer, to be fair. Though there was the anti-fluoride issue as well. And also, occasionally, flat earthers.
Ok, fine, it was try to work out if you were voting for batshittery, or just someone interested in the health and welfare of their community.
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Change is scary to me. It might be good might be bad. But I don't have confidence.
Still, if it means not voting for DHBs that would be one guaranteed plus.
OMG THIS
It's the worst game of pin the tail on the cat ever
It's usually work out whether the person is a crazed anti-vaxxer, to be fair. Though there was the anti-fluoride issue as well. And also, occasionally, flat earthers.
Ok, fine, it was try to work out if you were voting for batshittery, or just someone interested in the health and welfare of their community.
I usually went for nurses first, then doctors, and then other people.
Change is scary to me. It might be good might be bad. But I don't have confidence.
Still, if it means not voting for DHBs that would be one guaranteed plus.
OMG THIS
It's the worst game of pin the tail on the cat ever
It's usually work out whether the person is a crazed anti-vaxxer, to be fair. Though there was the anti-fluoride issue as well. And also, occasionally, flat earthers.
Ok, fine, it was try to work out if you were voting for batshittery, or just someone interested in the health and welfare of their community.
I usually went for nurses first, then doctors, and then other people.
Sadly, this is not as good a defense guard against batshittery as you might at first assume.
Change is scary to me. It might be good might be bad. But I don't have confidence.
Still, if it means not voting for DHBs that would be one guaranteed plus.
OMG THIS
It's the worst game of pin the tail on the cat ever
It's usually work out whether the person is a crazed anti-vaxxer, to be fair. Though there was the anti-fluoride issue as well. And also, occasionally, flat earthers.
Ok, fine, it was try to work out if you were voting for batshittery, or just someone interested in the health and welfare of their community.
I usually went for nurses first, then doctors, and then other people.
Sadly, this is not as good a defense guard against batshittery as you might at first assume.
So my parents stay vaguely plugged into Aussie politics, and apparently there's an incompetent sex-ed video you guys spent a bunch of money on?
nearly $8 million on a series of 350 videos.
The most infamous of which was a girl forcing a milkshake onto a boys face as an allegory for consent (not specifically sexual consent but consent in general)....
within the videos I saw, there is a lot of talking around topics and not actually "saying the words" which has drawn rightful criticism
Those awkward forced handshakes? Actually "laying on hands"
“I’ve been in evacuation centres where people thought I was just giving someone a hug and I was praying, and putting my hands on people … laying hands on them and praying in various situations,”
Social Media is the work of The Devil
“Sure, social media has its virtues and its values and enables us to connect with people in ways we’ve never had before – terrific, terrific – but those weapons can also be used by the evil one and we need to call that out.”
Those awkward forced handshakes? Actually "laying on hands"
“I’ve been in evacuation centres where people thought I was just giving someone a hug and I was praying, and putting my hands on people … laying hands on them and praying in various situations,”
Social Media is the work of The Devil
“Sure, social media has its virtues and its values and enables us to connect with people in ways we’ve never had before – terrific, terrific – but those weapons can also be used by the evil one and we need to call that out.”
Well never fear for some insane reason he still polls preferred over Labor to "handle the pandemic".
Those awkward forced handshakes? Actually "laying on hands"
“I’ve been in evacuation centres where people thought I was just giving someone a hug and I was praying, and putting my hands on people … laying hands on them and praying in various situations,”
Social Media is the work of The Devil
“Sure, social media has its virtues and its values and enables us to connect with people in ways we’ve never had before – terrific, terrific – but those weapons can also be used by the evil one and we need to call that out.”
Well never fear for some insane reason he still polls preferred over Labor to "handle the pandemic".
Fucking WhY?????
Because as much as I despise the fucker, and as much as it's mostly the various Premiers doing the job, the fact is, we've been relatively unscathed.
Even without any meaningful vaccine schedule, fact is, our daily cases are ridiculously small when compared to most of the rest of the world (about ~1% of the US's infections, and ~2% of the US's death rate, on a per capita basis, ~3% and ~5% respectively compared to Canada).
And people aren't going to want to change horses mid-stream.
Yes, but:
- the vaccine schedule has been delayed
- he's bankrupted childcare centres
- he's stopped jobseeker
- and appears to be encouraging people to fly to and spend tourism bucks in marginal seats for political gain
It's very hard to point at anything he's responsible for that's been done well.
But yeah, people are going to give him credit for the premiers' work
Blind luck and the states doing all the heavy lifting is what got us to this point in the pandemic.
his responsibility was to source and secure a/multiple vaccine options and distribute them once they became available.
we have ended up with all our eggs in one basket and that has left us scrambling at the first hitch.
I still have no idea when I will get vaccinated, I would in an instant were it available but at the moment all I have is "maybe before the end of the year.... maybe"
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Yeah agree there is no good answer to this question and him getting away seemingly Scot (heh) free sets a really bad tone. I would hate to see things slide right down to ‘grab em by the p*****’ level
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This doesn't sound like it's saying much mind; By this logic, we'd label the government sociopathic too, which might be appropriate.
(Not that sociopathy is inherently bad. Leaders of large groups need to distance themselves from those under them somewhat in order to avoid stress. Sociopaths are quite good at that and sociopath≠evil. Many war heroes have been people who have handled situations better than most, being able to get the job done as their comrades were cut down by their side. It can be useful and good.)
But Morrison appears to be lacking in empathy and too stupid to hide it which is just unforgivable. We like our politicians to at least pretend to be good people and care about others.
The up skirt photo is kinda hard because he deleted it (because the store staff forced him to) 2 years ago? Probably not retrievable.
The online harassment? He just deleted his social media accounts. They all have this backed up and logged. They just didn’t want to do it.
Not the original poster, but yeah. Yeah, I do think that Labor are socialist. What sort of socialism? Well, pulled directly from their website they're:
'The Australian Labor Party is a democratic socialist party and has the objective of the
democratic socialisation of industry, production, distribution and exchange, to the
extent necessary to eliminate exploitation and other anti-social features in these fields.'
and in their Constitution they say that they are for:
'[The] redistribution of political and economic power so that all members of society have
the opportunity to participate in the shaping and control of the institutions and
relationships which determine their lives'
'establishment and development of public enterprises, based upon federal, state
and other forms of social ownership, in appropriate sectors of the economy'
There's a lot more, right here in their constitution - they're not hard line, no private property style socialists (they even call that out as a point) but they're definitely socialists.
https://www.alp.org.au/media/1574/alp_national_constitution.pdf
Are they really pushing hard in achieving these goals? Are they particularly effective at the moment, given the uphill battle they fight against the Murdoch press and a reasonably uncharismatic leader for the last while? No. But to say they're not socialists and not having a huge imapct on politics is a bit odd, given that the Labor part championed Award wages, Penalty Rates, Supeannuation and Maternity Leave to name only a few.
The fundamental problem for Morrison is that with every other announce-do-nothing pattern they've used it's been for something abstract "100 million for the arts" that then disappears into bureaucracy and months pass and no-one is sure if it happened or not. There's very few places to hide when they don't follow through with actually getting the vaccine they told us we already had.
There's no reason to think he's gotten anything with that timetable.
It's another ScoMo dissolving promise like all the others.
By the end of the year the US will be closing in on full vaccination, so there's probably going to be a whole lot of extra Pfizer flying around to first world countries who can pay.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
bit.ly/2XQM1ke
Still, if it means not voting for DHBs that would be one guaranteed plus.
The reality is that healthcare is underfunded. Shuffling reporting lines and management responsibilities around is not a solution in itself.
This is true, but the changes address one of the reasons that underfunding has been allowed to continue, I think - particularly under National, they've pointed to headline figures of 'increase in funding', while blaming the DHBs for overrunning budget, or restricted budget. I think (hope) that game becomes harder to pull off when they aren't pointing at a separate, arcanely elected body, and instead just have the national health agency saying 'we don't have enough money'. I mean, let's face it, the chronic insufficient funding in our healthcare has been around for as long as I've been alive, so maybe I'm just hopeful that removing some of the opacity allows it to be finally politically untenable for it to continue.
Thus far, voter response to that has been a resounding 'fuck off', which I hope remains the case.
Pretty much: DHBs always had a built-in use-by date. At some point, they were always going to become an outdated response to a problem that no longer exists. Sooner or later we were always going to need to restructure the health system to address the next set of problems that we need to resolve; in light of this, the real questions are:
The DHBs have been getting long in the tooth for years. This Pandemic has only futher enforced and exacerbated that.
The new set up sounds like it might address the current failings better, and build a better platform from which to respond at a national level to the needs of New Zealand's population.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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No idea, I haven't looked at a hard copy of the herald in years - probably since before they switched to tabloid sizing?
OMG THIS
It's the worst game of pin the tail on the cat ever
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It's usually work out whether the person is a crazed anti-vaxxer, to be fair. Though there was the anti-fluoride issue as well. And also, occasionally, flat earthers.
Ok, fine, it was try to work out if you were voting for batshittery, or just someone interested in the health and welfare of their community.
I usually went for nurses first, then doctors, and then other people.
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Sadly, this is not as good a defense guard against batshittery as you might at first assume.
Yeah.
Sadly.
Now I'm sad again.
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We did, yes!
nearly $8 million on a series of 350 videos.
The most infamous of which was a girl forcing a milkshake onto a boys face as an allegory for consent (not specifically sexual consent but consent in general)....
within the videos I saw, there is a lot of talking around topics and not actually "saying the words" which has drawn rightful criticism
The whole thing is a bit weird
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About 3-4 staff working on each video for a month, assuming no management overhead.
Those awkward forced handshakes? Actually "laying on hands"
“I’ve been in evacuation centres where people thought I was just giving someone a hug and I was praying, and putting my hands on people … laying hands on them and praying in various situations,”
Social Media is the work of The Devil
“Sure, social media has its virtues and its values and enables us to connect with people in ways we’ve never had before – terrific, terrific – but those weapons can also be used by the evil one and we need to call that out.”
Well never fear for some insane reason he still polls preferred over Labor to "handle the pandemic".
Fucking WhY?????
Because as much as I despise the fucker, and as much as it's mostly the various Premiers doing the job, the fact is, we've been relatively unscathed.
Even without any meaningful vaccine schedule, fact is, our daily cases are ridiculously small when compared to most of the rest of the world (about ~1% of the US's infections, and ~2% of the US's death rate, on a per capita basis, ~3% and ~5% respectively compared to Canada).
And people aren't going to want to change horses mid-stream.
- the vaccine schedule has been delayed
- he's bankrupted childcare centres
- he's stopped jobseeker
- and appears to be encouraging people to fly to and spend tourism bucks in marginal seats for political gain
It's very hard to point at anything he's responsible for that's been done well.
But yeah, people are going to give him credit for the premiers' work
Its all luck.
his responsibility was to source and secure a/multiple vaccine options and distribute them once they became available.
we have ended up with all our eggs in one basket and that has left us scrambling at the first hitch.
I still have no idea when I will get vaccinated, I would in an instant were it available but at the moment all I have is "maybe before the end of the year.... maybe"
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