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StarCraft: Rumors of Starcraft 3 where as real as a full night's sleep.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    He's an industry guy who's been around for a very long while. He has a reputation for being a bit of a dick but I hadn't heard he did anything worse.

    ...did he do something worst MMMig?

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    No, he's just a real, real dick.

    Oh I didn't post my DJWheat pic did I?
    Now there's a REAL eSport journalist I enjoyed from way back. He's been working for Twitch for a while now.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    OK, this gave me a good laugh.

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited June 2021
    That's going on the wall.

    Ed: after I trick my wife into letting me have something like that on the wall.

    "Trust me hon, it'll be tastefully cultural."

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Crossposting this from the HotS thread since it's sort of relevant here:

    It's been a while, but the wife is back to the A-Z HotS art challenge. The next one up is hot!

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    She dropped this into Reddit and has been getting lots of upvotes and praise. Of course, the running joke is drawing Blaze in watercolors. :biggrin: Pretty good for someone who only started doing art a few years ago.

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    EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Just the other day I reinstalled StarCraft after like a year and a half, and did some placement matches. Ended up still in plat 2. I'm garbage at the game but apparently I'm still better than at least a majority after not playing at all for a long time. I feel like I could push to diamond with just a little effort.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    tomorrow the out rounds at the world championships at Katowice start. The games have been fantastic last couple of days and the bracket is basically perfect. This is the first offline tournament held in years, and the players are living up to it. It starts at 6 am Eastern tomorrow, and the stream is:

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I never was that good at SC (I think I peaked at Plat in the early days?). The game requires so much macro and micro and I could never get it all down fast enough. Build orders helped a lot, but once things got off track, I was toast.

    BUT! One of the biggest things I couldn't stand was damaged units. I don't know why, but I couldn't stand not sending out some SVCs to repair my mech units. Probably should just get used to units being disposable and create a bigger economy to simply replace them. :D

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    That's neat but how is SK doing with covid

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    I'm no official or doctor but their huge spike has started going down as fast as it went up (similar to other countries' trends).

    Fully vaccination rate of 85% (boosters at 40%+) and they're opening up almost completely very soon.

    I don't know how hospitalizations are doing but at this trend end of April looks like it should be alright?

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Hmm well hope it works out for them, know I still wouldn't consider any sort of live crowd events.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Yes. I'm pretty consistently of the opinion recently that planning for live events right now is a Bad Thing.

    I'm kind of torn because I'd love more SC2 live content here and such. But like, also, it's not really responsible right now.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Does anyone else remember how this song was played constantly during the Brood Wars days?

    https://youtu.be/Gw4WhFeycCY

    Or am I remembering wrong?

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    That does sound familiar...

    This one definitely made its mark tho
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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Does anyone else remember how this song was played constantly during the Brood Wars days?

    https://youtu.be/Gw4WhFeycCY

    Or am I remembering wrong?

    Possible. I remember them using music from the soundtrack of The Rock a lot, too. I may still have 2001 vods somewhere. God that was just the best

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Oh god SC64...

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    hiraethhiraeth SpaceRegistered User regular
    The ASL finals were great, totally not the typical TvT without being too spoilery

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited October 2022
    A small glimpse from the Artosis life that a couple of friends and I were fortunate to share

    We had been asked not to talk about it since Nal_Ra's reputation was important as a pro gamer, but I guess the cat's out now ^^'
    This was a long, long time ago :)


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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    So, turns out Starcraft still has tournaments and gets patches and everything. Just, you know, if you wanted to compare to any other games *cough Heroes of the Storm cough*

    Anyways, there's a tourney going on this past week or so (https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2), and the Grand Finals are going on now and it's pretty fun! Even if it's TvT.

    First couple games spoilers:
    Oliveira is the first Chinese player to make it to the Grand Finals here, winning upset after upset. Up against the well-known and favored player, Maru (who apparently was most worried about the TvT match-up :lol: ). Maru took the first game pretty convincingly, and you could hear the commentators worrying about how this would affect Oliveira, since it could be a really tilting match. And then Maru goes for a double proxy barracks in the second game, which let's be honest has been tilt-inducing for a decade or more :lol::lol: . But Oliveira not only holds the rush, but pulls out a win! He looked so excited on that win, and probably feels like he's proven he can do this.

    Game 3 is starting now, so we'll see how it goes, but whatever it ends up being it won't be a blow-out!

    Edit: third game
    Well Oliveira is showing that first game wasn't a fluke! Really his defense just seems so strong, he's winning these games by just shutting down Maru's attacks and then being ahead and taking advantage of that. (Or at least, that's how it looks to be, I'm really rusty at SC2 haha)

    Edit2: fourth game and beyond, as saying whether there's a fifth game or not would spoiler stuff :tongue:
    Oliveira wins again by shutting down a strong attack and getting more damage done. Showing so strongly. Poor Maru!

    And then the fifth game, the last game, soooo intense. I thought Maru had it! Classic Tank/Viking TvT play. I think Oliveira had a little lead in the end, but then Maru accidentally split his tanks away (they routed a different way it looks like), and Oliveira just jumped on them. And a huge final fight, and then Oliveira emerged victorious! 4-1, only losing that first fight, Oliveira beating some really big names in the tourney.

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    hiraethhiraeth SpaceRegistered User regular
    And ASL was supposed to start tomorrow but has been pushed back a week.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    kime wrote: »
    So, turns out Starcraft still has tournaments and gets patches and everything. Just, you know, if you wanted to compare to any other games *cough Heroes of the Storm cough*

    Anyways, there's a tourney going on this past week or so (https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2), and the Grand Finals are going on now and it's pretty fun! Even if it's TvT.

    First couple games spoilers:
    Oliveira is the first Chinese player to make it to the Grand Finals here, winning upset after upset. Up against the well-known and favored player, Maru (who apparently was most worried about the TvT match-up :lol: ). Maru took the first game pretty convincingly, and you could hear the commentators worrying about how this would affect Oliveira, since it could be a really tilting match. And then Maru goes for a double proxy barracks in the second game, which let's be honest has been tilt-inducing for a decade or more :lol::lol: . But Oliveira not only holds the rush, but pulls out a win! He looked so excited on that win, and probably feels like he's proven he can do this.

    Game 3 is starting now, so we'll see how it goes, but whatever it ends up being it won't be a blow-out!

    Edit: third game
    Well Oliveira is showing that first game wasn't a fluke! Really his defense just seems so strong, he's winning these games by just shutting down Maru's attacks and then being ahead and taking advantage of that. (Or at least, that's how it looks to be, I'm really rusty at SC2 haha)

    Edit2: fourth game and beyond, as saying whether there's a fifth game or not would spoiler stuff :tongue:
    Oliveira wins again by shutting down a strong attack and getting more damage done. Showing so strongly. Poor Maru!

    And then the fifth game, the last game, soooo intense. I thought Maru had it! Classic Tank/Viking TvT play. I think Oliveira had a little lead in the end, but then Maru accidentally split his tanks away (they routed a different way it looks like), and Oliveira just jumped on them. And a huge final fight, and then Oliveira emerged victorious! 4-1, only losing that first fight, Oliveira beating some really big names in the tourney.
    I have still been following SC2 very closely, and I think Time beat in sequence, the best ZvT in the world, the best PvT in the world, and the best TvT in the world. One of the all-time performances.

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Didn't even know Blizzcon was next weekend.

    Here's hoping!

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    BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    I wish I could be excited. A few years ago I would have been absolutely stoked. Blizzard just isn't the right company to do it anymore.

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    rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    There's enough out there to believe something Starcraft is in development (not necessarily an RTS), but I strongly doubt its ready to show at Blizzcon, and nothing Jez has said even hints at that. The main "surprise" at this one is likely the first Diablo 4 expansion, which has already seen some leaks.

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    The big one is likely that new IP that they mentioned some time back.

    Something in the fantasy genre, iirc.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    The big one is likely that new IP that they mentioned some time back.

    Something in the fantasy genre, iirc.

    They already have Warcraft and Diablo, do they really need a NEW fantasy setting?

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    rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    MMMig wrote: »
    The big one is likely that new IP that they mentioned some time back.

    Something in the fantasy genre, iirc.

    They already have Warcraft and Diablo, do they really need a NEW fantasy setting?

    Warcraft is bound up with pretty high/epic fantasy and Diablo is about becoming a human demon-blender. It is kind of tough to make something more "grounded" (heh) for a survival game in those settings given expectations. Plus it would need "all hunters, everywhere, for all time" branding or such.

    Artistic identity also matters, you can see from the huge backlash to Diablo 3. If you wanted a semi-realistic, bright and natural setting, neither Diablo's mandated dreariness nor WoW's stylized/simplified art are a great fit.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    MMMig wrote: »

    This quote from the article annoys me irrationally.
    We're curious to find out what kind of war StarCraft 3 will explore given that the ending to StarCraft 2 pretty much put an end to most conflict.

    Not really. It ended the conflict of the moment but the setting is a shit show. "A victory so final as to end war," is hubris at its highest even when you don't have giant flesh eating space bugs to worry about.

    The UED is still out there, and their return was the only thing except Amon that Kerrigan was afraid of. And with Kerrigan gone the Zerg just got handed over to a new queen gifted superior vision and cunning but with no reason to show the restraint Kerrigan showed in Heart of the Swarm. The swarm was broken but it's always broken until the Zerg campaign starts and it rebuilds from zero to infinity again.

    Artanis united the Protoss against a common foe, but that foe is gone now and unity involved Artanis unilaterally dismantling a lot of the factions' cultural identities (and the Dark Templar were already worried about their culture eroding due to unity with Aiur). The Taldarim are going to fuck off at the first sign of not getting their way, somebody's going to be salty about the caste system being thrown down. And severing the Khala is definitely one of those things that will come back to haunt them.

    We don't know what's going on in the Dominion but it can't be great because when Artanis paid a friendly visit they were on edge badly enough that they were shooting first and identifying later.

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    I'd like to play a new SC, but I can't bring myself to care at all about the story anymore. I was done with WoL

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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »

    This quote from the article annoys me irrationally.
    We're curious to find out what kind of war StarCraft 3 will explore given that the ending to StarCraft 2 pretty much put an end to most conflict.

    Not really. It ended the conflict of the moment but the setting is a shit show. "A victory so final as to end war," is hubris at its highest even when you don't have giant flesh eating space bugs to worry about.

    The UED is still out there, and their return was the only thing except Amon that Kerrigan was afraid of. And with Kerrigan gone the Zerg just got handed over to a new queen gifted superior vision and cunning but with no reason to show the restraint Kerrigan showed in Heart of the Swarm. The swarm was broken but it's always broken until the Zerg campaign starts and it rebuilds from zero to infinity again.

    They did a follow up novel after SC2 where Zagara invited the terrans and protoss to her new throneworld for peace talks. She even grew tables and chairs for them to sit on from zerg biomatter.

    She offered snacks.

    These are all true things that are canon.

    The three big factions of the three races - Dominion, Daelaam, and Swarm, are currently friends. But yes, there are fringe factions that are more hostile - Terran separatists, rogue Zerg hives, and Alarak is still out there up to some shit (if he's the next big bad of the franchise, then sold.)

    I think they could definitely tell some more grounded stories, without some over-arching mega-threat from beyond the universe to unite them all. Just have each faction with their own campaign, their own goals and ambitions, their own moral viewpoint. Let the franchise grow and change from there.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Just saying, Kerrigan invited the other factions to come be friends too, about two missions before she ate Duke and Fenix.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    I'unno making a big hiring announcement at the start of 2022 tells me we're not seeing it this year

    https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23768911/create-a-new-universe-with-us

    Which, yes, that sounds absurd, but Blizzard has never been a speedy company


    Rumours for basically every Blizzard product have been circulating for this Blizzcon, it's kinda funny. Everyone's just thinking about it because of the acquisition, I suppose. I'm just expecting Diablo and WoW expacs

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited October 2023
    I’m pretty sure it’s StarCraft ghost, now a soulslike of course

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »

    This quote from the article annoys me irrationally.
    We're curious to find out what kind of war StarCraft 3 will explore given that the ending to StarCraft 2 pretty much put an end to most conflict.

    Not really. It ended the conflict of the moment but the setting is a shit show. "A victory so final as to end war," is hubris at its highest even when you don't have giant flesh eating space bugs to worry about.

    The UED is still out there, and their return was the only thing except Amon that Kerrigan was afraid of. And with Kerrigan gone the Zerg just got handed over to a new queen gifted superior vision and cunning but with no reason to show the restraint Kerrigan showed in Heart of the Swarm. The swarm was broken but it's always broken until the Zerg campaign starts and it rebuilds from zero to infinity again.

    Artanis united the Protoss against a common foe, but that foe is gone now and unity involved Artanis unilaterally dismantling a lot of the factions' cultural identities (and the Dark Templar were already worried about their culture eroding due to unity with Aiur). The Taldarim are going to fuck off at the first sign of not getting their way, somebody's going to be salty about the caste system being thrown down. And severing the Khala is definitely one of those things that will come back to haunt them.

    We don't know what's going on in the Dominion but it can't be great because when Artanis paid a friendly visit they were on edge badly enough that they were shooting first and identifying later.

    I'm guessing nobody played the Nova mini-expansion, which you should, it was actually pretty great and I was generally bummed we didn't see more expansions like that. It actually delves a bit into post-Legacy of teh Void politics.

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    Long story made short, Valarians #2, who used to be his father's #2, felt that Valarian had betrayed humanity by siding with aliens and so made some preemptive strikes against, not the protoss directly, but the Tal'darim. While stuff gets resolved, it definitely ends with Aldarok implying that humanity just proved itself a threat. I never got a sense from that episode that the Tal'darim stayed with the rest of the protoss after the war, so I imagine that schism already happened.

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    I’m pretty sure it’s StarCraft ghost, now a soulslike of course

    Would be so fucking down for this.

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    rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    A "soulslike" actually designed around stealth and long-range combat would be kind of novel?

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    TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    RTS as a genre really needs a break out game to revive it again. It's been dormant for far too long. If that's Starcraft 3, I welcome it.

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