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There's Actually Zero Difference Between Good & [Bad] Food

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I hesitate to say the Britain has the best anything in the world.

    But then I don’t know that much about Britain.

    Hey Brits, what do you got that’s best in the world?

    Fuckin’… woolen sweaters?

    Sarcasm

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    There's a lot of justified heat directed at British cuisine, but your pastry game is on point

    A warm kidney pie on a cold day, heating your hands and sating your hunger at the same time? Lovely

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I hesitate to say the Britain has the best anything in the world.

    But then I don’t know that much about Britain.

    Hey Brits, what do you got that’s best in the world?

    Fuckin’… woolen sweaters?

    The weather is amazing when it stops, much like the jokes about our food.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    I made risotto tonight. It was delicious and turned out perfectly.

    I am never making risotto again.

    You know I never minded making risotto. It turns out delicious and all I had to do was add some liquid every few minutes and stir for a bit?

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    Gin! Definitely the best gin.

    And whisky.

    I see a pattern.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    -Loki- wrote: »
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    Gin! Definitely the best gin.

    And whisky.

    I see a pattern.

    Bourbon is from America and the best scotch these days comes from Japan.

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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    Gin! Definitely the best gin.

    Wellllllllll

    I mean they still win SOME categories in the world gin awards

    I would argue that the best gin in the world is coming out of Australia these days though

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I hesitate to say the Britain has the best anything in the world.

    But then I don’t know that much about Britain.

    Hey Brits, what do you got that’s best in the world?

    Fuckin’… woolen sweaters?

    Sarcasm

    Dry nihilist humour

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I hesitate to say the Britain has the best anything in the world.

    But then I don’t know that much about Britain.

    Hey Brits, what do you got that’s best in the world?

    Fuckin’… woolen sweaters?

    Sarcasm

    Dry nihilist humour

    Cheddar

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited January 2023
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    Gin! Definitely the best gin.

    This seems reasonable but also I'm not a huge fan of gin.
    V1m wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    I hesitate to say the Britain has the best anything in the world.

    But then I don’t know that much about Britain.

    Hey Brits, what do you got that’s best in the world?

    Fuckin’… woolen sweaters?

    The weather is amazing when it stops, much like the jokes about our food.

    I'm from California, dogg, it's like you're not even trying

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I'm not really sure what the relevance of that is, I am not up on my California knowledge

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I'm not really sure what the relevance of that is, I am not up on my California knowledge

    California either has no weather or apocalypse.

    It's sunny in Southern California something like 300-330 days out of the year.

    It is also the land where everything burns every summer and has been in a drought for something like 40 years.

    Somehow not a desert yet.

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    SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    I made risotto tonight. It was delicious and turned out perfectly.

    I am never making risotto again.

    You know I never minded making risotto. It turns out delicious and all I had to do was add some liquid every few minutes and stir for a bit?

    There's a way to make it without the tedious stirring. You use 300g arborio rice, half an onion, 1l stock and 2tsp white wine vinegar. Soften the onion in a little oil, quickly fry off the rice, add the stock and the vinegar, bring to the boil, put a lid on the pot and throw it in a 160C oven for 20 minutes.

    Take it out, stir it all up. From that point you have a perfect risotto base to add whatever else you want to. The recipe I use has some smoked salmon, frozen peas, spring onions and a squirt of lemon juice thrown in before putting it back in the oven for 5 minutes.

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    -Loki- wrote: »
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    Gin! Definitely the best gin.

    And whisky.

    I see a pattern.

    Bourbon is from America and the best scotch these days comes from Japan.

    Bourbon is whiskey (the e is important).

    And incorrect but if you want get technical the Scottish taught the Japanese so the point still stands.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Some credit for making worcestershire sauce

    Then all the credit clawed back and then some for the spelling-pronunciation gap

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    sarukun wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what the relevance of that is, I am not up on my California knowledge

    California either has no weather or apocalypse.

    It's sunny in Southern California something like 300-330 days out of the year.

    It is also the land where everything burns every summer and has been in a drought for something like 40 years.

    Somehow not a desert yet.

    Cause of stealing all the water from southern Arizona and northwest Mexico

    I likely have no idea what I’m talking about….maybe most of the water comes from the Sacramenti vs the Colorada?

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what the relevance of that is, I am not up on my California knowledge

    California either has no weather or apocalypse.

    It's sunny in Southern California something like 300-330 days out of the year.

    It is also the land where everything burns every summer and has been in a drought for something like 40 years.

    Somehow not a desert yet.

    Cause of stealing all the water from southern Arizona and northwest Mexico

    I likely have no idea what I’m talking about….maybe most of the water comes from the Sacramenti vs the Colorada?

    Forget it, Captain, it’s Chinatown.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    There's a lot of justified heat directed at British cuisine, but your pastry game is on point

    I mean it’s not though, the valid complaints about British cuisine come from expats from Britain who mostly were part of the Great Depression. That particular generation has that little money they considered garlic to be a luxury. And yeah, that food was pretty fuckin bland because they were dirt poor. And you know what? So did everyone’s food. The difference is that your food evolved and you eat the better food and rather than looking at modern British food, everyone points at their food from the 1920s and laughs.

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Are we shitting on British Food? Because I will fight someone bare-chested in the street over Fish and Chips being a top 10 Hangover food.

    Ya got Salty, sweet, Crispy, Flakey, juicy.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    British food is good

    Cause of the imperialism

    Which makes it bad

    But yummy

    It’s one manifestation of the thesis of this thread in fact!

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Now help me prepare this non-inclusive but resource optimized community gruel in the community cookery

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what the relevance of that is, I am not up on my California knowledge

    California either has no weather or apocalypse.

    It's sunny in Southern California something like 300-330 days out of the year.

    It is also the land where everything burns every summer and has been in a drought for something like 40 years.

    Somehow not a desert yet.

    Well, more it hasn't reverted to being a desert again yet. Because we can pipe in as much water as we like, plant crops and trees, build cities, but none of it has changed the fact it's still a desert and should the water from up north stop flowing nature will reassert equilibrium.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    It's not a desert though, it's a chapparal.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It's not a desert though, it's a chapparal.

    On the coast, but there's a whole lot of Southern California past the San Gabriel Mountains

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    Yeah the desert part

    This is why SoCal rocks, drive an hour in any direction* and you end up in a completely different biome

    *lol, assuming no traffic

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It's not a desert though, it's a chapparal.

    On the coast, but there's a whole lot of Southern California past the San Gabriel Mountains

    But they never show that part in movies or TV or anything so it might not actually exist at all!

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It's not a desert though, it's a chapparal.

    On the coast, but there's a whole lot of Southern California past the San Gabriel Mountains

    But they never show that part in movies or TV or anything so it might not actually exist at all!

    Oh they show it, the area's very popular for filming, they just rarely represent it as California in the movies. I grew up near a very popular "downtown" street in Lancaster that was often used for vehicle stunts.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    British food is good

    Cause of the imperialism

    Which makes it bad

    But yummy

    It’s one manifestation of the thesis of this thread in fact!

    the curry is also cursed.

    (that's bad)

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    Yeah, fish and chips is perfectly good (if unhealthy) food.

    Now, Irish food on the other hand... well, I'm a big fan of the annual family dinner on St. Patricks Day.

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It's not a desert though, it's a chapparal.

    No it's a pizza - all the dry on one side, wet/open on the other.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Yeah, fish and chips is perfectly good (if unhealthy) food.

    Now, Irish food on the other hand... well, I'm a big fan of the annual family dinner on St. Patricks Day.

    Colcannon is the saddest food that I love. Like I admire that you came up with a hearty comforting dish made entirely out of winter animal fodder, good job the Irish.

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Blake T wrote: »
    There's a lot of justified heat directed at British cuisine, but your pastry game is on point

    I mean it’s not though, the valid complaints about British cuisine come from expats from Britain who mostly were part of the Great Depression. That particular generation has that little money they considered garlic to be a luxury. And yeah, that food was pretty fuckin bland because they were dirt poor. And you know what? So did everyone’s food. The difference is that your food evolved and you eat the better food and rather than looking at modern British food, everyone points at their food from the 1920s and laughs.

    And rolling straight from the Depression into the Blitz and rations etc.

    Entire decades of poverty food.


    Also, mushy peas are amazing. And while I'm not a fan of savory pie, I can totally understand the appeal and would likely reach for a meat pie over a poptart on a given day.

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Meat pies are one of those things that like... the entire concept is not a common thing in American cuisine but it feels like should be. Except chicken pot pie, that feels like the one example that made it through the filter and I have no idea why.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I've never made a homemade pizza but I've had a terrible idea.

    1. Pizza crust
    2. Tomatilla sauce
    3. Queso fresco
    4. Crumbled chorizo
    5. Diced onions
    6. Cilantro
    7. Squeeze of lime

    Mexican street taco pizza

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    British food is good

    Cause of the imperialism

    Which makes it bad

    But yummy

    It’s one manifestation of the thesis of this thread in fact!

    There's plenty of good non-imperialist ethnic British food, too. See Jedoc's cottage pie lunch.

    But most British foods are not easy to make really well, or rather: far tooeasy to make badly, and unforgiving of poor quality ingredients.

    Person A might have a cream tea made by a really good cook and enjoy fresh, light, buttery scones, well made raspberry preserve and home made clotted cream and come away from the experience with a very different view from Person B who might have had a visually indistinguishable version of the same meal that was infinitely poorer. The same might apply to just about any iconic british food from fish and chips to steak & kidney pudding. Done well, it's fantastic. Done poorly, no.

    And a lot of our foods also have very little middle ground between delicious and deeply disappointing. eg: a Yorkshire pudding is either a delight or a disaster, and can go from one to the other in a few moments of misjudgement. Most of our dishes take a lot of skill to do well, and until you have that skill you don't make an 'OK' Yorkshire pudding.

    Anyone who thinks we don't care about food should ponder how many Michelin starred restaurants there are here, or why, given half an opportunity, British people will discuss food at length and with feeling, even if we pretend we're just joking around. You will get our opinions about a 'proper' full English (Scottish or Irish) breakfast, or beer, or local chippy, because we care about it just as much as an Italian does their pasta.

    Here ends the serious post.

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    JayKaos wrote: »
    Meat pies are one of those things that like... the entire concept is not a common thing in American cuisine but it feels like should be. Except chicken pot pie, that feels like the one example that made it through the filter and I have no idea why.

    Stromboli was invented in Philadelphia, the chimichanga in arizona, and the Hot Pocket in Colorado

    Pepperoni rolls come from west Virginia! I forgot that one.

    Corn dogs are American, too!

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Honestly some of the best eating I every had was my two trips to England.


    I don't remember much of the trips other than the food.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    All i know is every episode of Great British Baking Show I want to eat all the things they make

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Honestly some of the best eating I every had was my two trips to England.


    I don't remember much of the trips other than the food.

    London?

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Of course corn dogs were made
    In America, they are the food manifestation of our national id

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