Dehya-aside, is her Signature Weapon any good within the context of “you never actually need 5-star weapons”?
I was going to roll on this Weapon Banner for Cyno’s Spear and Alley Flash regardless, but I’m curious what opinion of Dehya’s weapon is.
Her weapon in general is actually pretty good, yeah, half because Claymores kinda suck, half because it's just a good stat stick. It's got Crit Rate as a Secondary, and better main stats than the only other Claymore that has Crit Rate (Serpent Spine, 510 Attack, 27.6% Crit Rate, versus Beacon's 608 and 33.1%). The Passive is 'fairly' accessible for other characters as well, in that most Claymore characters use their skill in rotation, so you'll proc the 20% Atk% for 8 seconds bonus and the other two effects aren't really hard to have but I'm not sure I'd say you're going to count on them like you would with Dehya.
In a related note, I appreciate that her weapon doesn't proc everything if you have a shield, but her demo gave Noelle as one of the characters. Just total clown shoes.
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Warlock82Never pet a burning dogRegistered Userregular
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So am I forgetting or have they not released a new operator in awhile? I feel like the last batch was the one with fancy Gavial in it (there may have been one or two free ones via events but those don't count :P I mean new banners specifically) My wallet is happy but I'm a bit surprised by this. I mean, heck they brought the summer event back and there doesn't even seem to be new outfits or operators which feels so odd to me (seems like usually they add some stuff on re-runs).
So am I forgetting or have they not released a new operator in awhile? I feel like the last batch was the one with fancy Gavial in it (there may have been one or two free ones via events but those don't count :P I mean new banners specifically) My wallet is happy but I'm a bit surprised by this. I mean, heck they brought the summer event back and there doesn't even seem to be new outfits or operators which feels so odd to me (seems like usually they add some stuff on re-runs).
Yeah, CC didn't have anyone new, the rerun doesn't either. The new skin is this $30 Exia thing they're experimenting with.
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So am I forgetting or have they not released a new operator in awhile? I feel like the last batch was the one with fancy Gavial in it (there may have been one or two free ones via events but those don't count :P I mean new banners specifically) My wallet is happy but I'm a bit surprised by this. I mean, heck they brought the summer event back and there doesn't even seem to be new outfits or operators which feels so odd to me (seems like usually they add some stuff on re-runs).
Yeah, CC didn't have anyone new, the rerun doesn't either. The new skin is this $30 Exia thing they're experimenting with.
Oh yeah, I forgot I already bought that :P But it's not beach themed so I didn't really think of it as part of the event. Yeah it's weird. I mostly noticed cuz I saw the splash art for the costumes and thought they were all new costumes, only to see I already owned them :P (though weirdly the art is original, not just the skins all collaged together... maybe they always do this and I've just never noticed :P I like Angelina's art in that picture better than the actual costume )
Side note, my paranoia on whether that was a new costume made me check my costume archive and realize I'm missing one now T_T It was a free reward for one of those events I didn't do cuz it was weird (I think one of the roguelike modes.. something during 3rd anniversary.. I have a hard time getting excited for them). Doh. Hope it comes back eventually. I don't like having the rando hole in my collection :P
I don't know his salary and I'd probably be in the minority but I'd take Quick in a heartbeat to Colorado if Francouz is injured.
The penguins could also use a real backup, what with jarry non-stop injuries and losing the last two post seasons due to the aforementioned injured starter.
But that was an issue that was known for two years and maybe the GM should have tried to do something about that instead of signing kapenen, McGinn and Friedman and subsequently waiving them because of their terrible contracts the GM gave them
Dehya can die off field from damage. Bleeding doesn't even kill off field!
Just.. fuck, man.
I wondered. I knew she could die in her Burst from DoT with her Mitigation but I figured SURELY they would make her stay at like 1 HP off-field and just cut off her mitigation at that point.
So Columbus is apparently going to move Quick -- not sure if this was their plan all along or a reaction to how much Quick didn't want to go. But flipping him is the only way it makes sense to me.
The amount of conspiracy theories on why Dehya is so bad is pretty amusing. I guess it's very human to try to make some sense out of the inexplicable.
Curious to see if they'll buff her later on. This being MHY I'm not giving very good odds on that - usually what you see once a character goes live is what you get.
I don't see a buff coming any time soon. Zhongli got one because he is the main representative "China" character, as in as the Geo Archon who led Liyue and Liyue being based off China, and Mihoyo being a Chinese company in China where "defamation" of China is considered a criminal act. A crazy person could claim that Zhongli being weak was therefore making China look weak. This isn't conspiracy either, there's already been such a case where the Chinese playerbase was more than willing to exploit that line of attack against Mihoyo in Honkai for another China-representative character.
Dehya though? She has no such connection, she's just a bad unit. So there's no major incentive to fix her.
For as much as I keep bringing up how wild it is that her kit is so bad and she's so mismanaged, I really hope my upcoming 50/50 loss (upcoming....I dunno, maybe in 4.1, I'm not sure there's anything or anyone I want to pull on until the next Archon) that I lose to her. I'd like to play around with her even if she hits like a sock full of feathers. Honestly, the main thing keeping me from pulling for her right now (and failing, I've won like four 50/50s in a row, I ain't getting any more for sure) is that she wants 4-Emblem and fuuuuuuck that domain. I lived in that domain for months and barely got anything decent. I can't do it again.
DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
edited April 14
I have an old teddy bear, his name, is naturally "Rags" but he was my pal through thick and thin. I never dove quite as deep into the fantasy as Calvin, but he was my Hobbes.
he's been pretty worn, his arms don't have any stuffing in them because I pushed them into his torso so people would be like "where's his arm?" and I'd say "he lost it in the war."
when my niece gets older and starts having friend stuffies, I am gonna introduce her to Rags
edit: Rags is placed in my room so that he has a full view so he can keep an eye out for bogies or haints or gremlins while I sleep
This isn't really a defense of Dehya (because other characters in this slot could do just as well; Klee would almost certainly be better), but the mono pyro team with her works perfectly well. That team cruised through floors 9-11 of the spiral abyss yesterday, actually stomping the electro regisvine in 11-3, and... didn't quite succeed in floor 12, but came close! I was able to 3-star the first and second chambers with them, but they were not effective against the matrix thing in the first half of 12-3. Maybe I could have done it with them as the second team, but I was scared off by the pyro abyss mage in 12-1. In retrospect, I probably could have gotten through that thing's shield easily enough with Kazuha swirls, but, what are you gonna do.
Does anyone know how often they normally change up floors 11 and 12? I was expecting them to change them up to some floors that encourage the use of pyro, but that certainly didn't happen.
Edit: I do see most people using the Emblem set on her, but I'm using Lavawalker. It seems like a slam dunk choice to me, but, I'm using her with C6 Bennett and thus actually using some normal attacks occasionally, so I care about more than just her burst.
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edited April 14
Early 4*s were not balanced well. Sucrose, Bennett, and Xingqiu were initially underrated by the community but over time people realized exactly how OP each one was.
The amount of conspiracy theories on why Dehya is so bad is pretty amusing. I guess it's very human to try to make some sense out of the inexplicable.
Curious to see if they'll buff her later on. This being MHY I'm not giving very good odds on that - usually what you see once a character goes live is what you get.
it is a bit sad/silly that deyha wasn't even deemed worthy of being on the launcher screen art for this version.
the idea that there's some internal fight between the creators and the storytellers at MHY does have some weight ;D
Deyha and Cyno could have both been 4 stars and it would have been fine
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the next time a bunch of loot drops next to a campfire i think instead of trying to pick it up I'm just going to shoot myself in the head
If you put the fire out first with some hydro or cryo, then you'll just get a message of "light the fire first" instead of being jerked into the cooking menu. Though seriously yeah, it can get really annoying when stuff that share the same button prompt get clumped together.
Actually I don't have a lot of experience with Sucrose, do her attacks actually move and suck in items? I'm sure her burst does, but you don't want to waste that on something trivial. It's what makes Kazuha secretly OP (more than he is anyways), one tap of his skill and nearby items get sucked into one easy to collect pile.
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the next time a bunch of loot drops next to a campfire i think instead of trying to pick it up I'm just going to shoot myself in the head
If you put the fire out first with some hydro or cryo, then you'll just get a message of "light the fire first" instead of being jerked into the cooking menu. Though seriously yeah, it can get really annoying when stuff that share the same button prompt get clumped together.
Actually I don't have a lot of experience with Sucrose, do her attacks actually move and suck in items? I'm sure her burst does, but you don't want to waste that on something trivial. It's what makes Kazuha secretly OP (more than he is anyways), one tap of his skill and nearby items get sucked into one easy to collect pile.
Sucrose's normal and charged might look like they should move things, but they don't. Her elemental skill sends things on a little loop-de-loop, in then out, but it's not a patch on Kaz planting a vortex on the edge of a pool to dredge stuff up from the depths.
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Kazuha is one of my favorite characters in the game, but his ability to suck in items and to get extra height when exploring without using stamina are the biggest reasons he almost never leaves my teams.
This isn't really a defense of Dehya (because other characters in this slot could do just as well; Klee would almost certainly be better), but the mono pyro team with her works perfectly well. That team cruised through floors 9-11 of the spiral abyss yesterday, actually stomping the electro regisvine in 11-3, and... didn't quite succeed in floor 12, but came close! I was able to 3-star the first and second chambers with them, but they were not effective against the matrix thing in the first half of 12-3. Maybe I could have done it with them as the second team, but I was scared off by the pyro abyss mage in 12-1. In retrospect, I probably could have gotten through that thing's shield easily enough with Kazuha swirls, but, what are you gonna do.
Does anyone know how often they normally change up floors 11 and 12? I was expecting them to change them up to some floors that encourage the use of pyro, but that certainly didn't happen.
Edit: I do see most people using the Emblem set on her, but I'm using Lavawalker. It seems like a slam dunk choice to me, but, I'm using her with C6 Bennett and thus actually using some normal attacks occasionally, so I care about more than just her burst.
Lavawalker is a good second place slot specifically for Mono-Pyro, yeah, maaaaaaybe first place depending on variables. Most people run Emblem because her Energy issues are so severe and her Burst is like 80% of her personal damage, so Emblem just kinda band-aids those two things pretty well by giving her more Energy and converting the amount of Energy Recharge you need on her into more damage.
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In a related note, I appreciate that her weapon doesn't proc everything if you have a shield, but her demo gave Noelle as one of the characters. Just total clown shoes.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Yeah, CC didn't have anyone new, the rerun doesn't either. The new skin is this $30 Exia thing they're experimenting with.
Oh yeah, I forgot I already bought that :P But it's not beach themed so I didn't really think of it as part of the event. Yeah it's weird. I mostly noticed cuz I saw the splash art for the costumes and thought they were all new costumes, only to see I already owned them :P (though weirdly the art is original, not just the skins all collaged together... maybe they always do this and I've just never noticed :P I like Angelina's art in that picture better than the actual costume
Side note, my paranoia on whether that was a new costume made me check my costume archive and realize I'm missing one now T_T It was a free reward for one of those events I didn't do cuz it was weird (I think one of the roguelike modes.. something during 3rd anniversary.. I have a hard time getting excited for them). Doh. Hope it comes back eventually. I don't like having the rando hole in my collection :P
Just.. fuck, man.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
The penguins could also use a real backup, what with jarry non-stop injuries and losing the last two post seasons due to the aforementioned injured starter.
But that was an issue that was known for two years and maybe the GM should have tried to do something about that instead of signing kapenen, McGinn and Friedman and subsequently waiving them because of their terrible contracts the GM gave them
I wondered. I knew she could die in her Burst from DoT with her Mitigation but I figured SURELY they would make her stay at like 1 HP off-field and just cut off her mitigation at that point.
Man, Ron hextall sure does suck as a GM.
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Guess Ottawa's actually making an effort!
It's not much, but it's honest work.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Curious to see if they'll buff her later on. This being MHY I'm not giving very good odds on that - usually what you see once a character goes live is what you get.
Dehya though? She has no such connection, she's just a bad unit. So there's no major incentive to fix her.
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Not gonna lie gave me some feels.
he's been pretty worn, his arms don't have any stuffing in them because I pushed them into his torso so people would be like "where's his arm?" and I'd say "he lost it in the war."
when my niece gets older and starts having friend stuffies, I am gonna introduce her to Rags
edit: Rags is placed in my room so that he has a full view so he can keep an eye out for bogies or haints or gremlins while I sleep
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Does anyone know how often they normally change up floors 11 and 12? I was expecting them to change them up to some floors that encourage the use of pyro, but that certainly didn't happen.
Edit: I do see most people using the Emblem set on her, but I'm using Lavawalker. It seems like a slam dunk choice to me, but, I'm using her with C6 Bennett and thus actually using some normal attacks occasionally, so I care about more than just her burst.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
it is a bit sad/silly that deyha wasn't even deemed worthy of being on the launcher screen art for this version.
the idea that there's some internal fight between the creators and the storytellers at MHY does have some weight ;D
Deyha and Cyno could have both been 4 stars and it would have been fine
If you put the fire out first with some hydro or cryo, then you'll just get a message of "light the fire first" instead of being jerked into the cooking menu. Though seriously yeah, it can get really annoying when stuff that share the same button prompt get clumped together.
Actually I don't have a lot of experience with Sucrose, do her attacks actually move and suck in items? I'm sure her burst does, but you don't want to waste that on something trivial. It's what makes Kazuha secretly OP (more than he is anyways), one tap of his skill and nearby items get sucked into one easy to collect pile.
Sucrose's normal and charged might look like they should move things, but they don't. Her elemental skill sends things on a little loop-de-loop, in then out, but it's not a patch on Kaz planting a vortex on the edge of a pool to dredge stuff up from the depths.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Lavawalker is a good second place slot specifically for Mono-Pyro, yeah, maaaaaaybe first place depending on variables. Most people run Emblem because her Energy issues are so severe and her Burst is like 80% of her personal damage, so Emblem just kinda band-aids those two things pretty well by giving her more Energy and converting the amount of Energy Recharge you need on her into more damage.