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[Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom] thread, in which we regret catching These Hands

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited June 2023
    Adjacent to conversations about spoilers happening in… a couple threads right now, I have desperately tried to avoid spoilers for this game, but in my yearning for people to talk to about it, ended up being spoiled on two major plot points

    This wouldn’t be a big deal honestly except they were both related to quests and items associated with the main quest, namely:
    where Zelda is and the location of the Master Sword
    once I knew both those things, I happened to see the dragon of light flying by when I was on the great sky island for some other business, and I flew over and plucked the sword from her head

    Honestly I might have flown over even if I hadn’t known just to get materials and may have spotted the sword organically, but I’ll never know! I’ve basically nullified a good portion of the quests (I’m guessing the glyphs and the trail of breadcrumbs to get the master sword) because I saw like, one unfortunate spoiler, and that stinks

    Thankfully I did not get spoiled on what’s inside that storm above the Faron Woods

    Uh

    That’s fuckin’ nuts

    Story spoilers for that and other stuff I guess
    absolutely unexpected, and hard as hell to get to because I don’t know if there’s any way to clear that storm before you go there but I didn’t and it was impossible to see! I managed to make it to the door at the end and get to the construct headpiece and that cleared the storm but I’m guessing there’s a whole thing that leads you there otherwise based on what Mineru said about thhe Purah Pad

    It’s also nuts that she’s basically like “congrats on getting the Master Sword” recognizing that I already have it, but if I didn’t have it this would likely have been the start of the breadcrumb trail that I assume would have led to the Lost Woods and wherever else, and the fact that I kind of jumped all of that because I saw one of two spoilers is a real bummer man

    I normally don’t care about spoilers much but here, when the joy is in discovery and exploration and finding things, it genuinely bums me out that I feel like I lost something because I saw a couple

    Anyway, all this is to say, if you’re reading this and haven’t done the glyphs yet, you should do those! Like holy shit, maybe mainline that! Or maybe the main quest stuff? Honestly it’s kind of cool the sequences you can break and that’s part of the design I love, in this instance maybe my brain is just uniquely strange

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited June 2023
    You can clear the faron storm, but it's a very late game project.

    Also nets you a nifty armor set.

    I figured out why I wasn't getting Gerudo Scimitars in the depths! Boy am I annoyed.

    So it turns out the way the Depth statues work is that once you get close enough to one, this spawns a weapon in for them.

    And then that weapon stays there until you pick it up.

    You have to pick it up AND have a blood moon happen to get a fresh weapon.

    Also it's possible that they can't spawn pristine weapons until you've broken the basic type. Not sure on that

    Anyway I've now got two pristine scimitars, 2 pristine claymores (and found so so many more of em). Haven't found any pristine spears *yet* but I'm hopeful. I wanna find a few more Scimitars so I can fuse them with Gleeok horns for high power elemental weapons.

    Also, fun fact: puffshrooms and muddle shrooms count as "busting" for forest dweller weapons. So unlimited smoke bomb on a stick? You bet!

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    The glyphs are designed in kind of a terrible way I think

    If you follow one of the quests, it actually tells you what order they should be viewed in, but also that results in you criss crossing the continent like a madman, and if you do any sort of exploration and view them as you come across them instead you will 100% get the narrative in a wildly jumbled order

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    LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Also, don’t real this spoiler unless you know who Sonia and Rauru are:

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    I know the answer is never, ever think about anything anyone says in a Zelda game, but apparently Zelda is descended from them, therefore…?

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    Lanz wrote: »
    Okay where can i find horriblins. Just plain, regular, default horriblins.

    I need five more horns and this fairy won’t take the other varieties of horriblin horn for this froggy cap

    I used sensor plus on a horns and it would lead me to caves where they were
    Its truly annoying byt here we are.
    Now its on truffles and uh its actually not accurate enough to be useful for that

    Okay sensor set up worked; thanks!

    Luckily I was apparently right next to a cave by one of the great fairies, and there were three regular horriblin inside; then the blood moon came like 20 minutes later and respawned them; now I got a slip proof froggy set

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Personally, I didn't really care about seeing the glyphs out of order because the entire game is basically "do whatever you want in any order you want and discover whatever". It would have maybe been neat if the tears and sages were more reactive to the knowledge you've obviously gotten from previous parts of the mainline quest, but I don't really have a complaint about the way it was done.

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    godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular

    I think I’m too dumb to understand why this is amazing, even reading the author’s explanation in the thread.

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Physics and collision systems are notoriously well..
    Temperamental.

    Turns out stimulating how stuff works is hard. Really hard. You might think calculating 12 * 33 in your head is hard, but that's peanuts to a physics simulation.

    Okay, enough Douglas Adams riffing. Point is, it's very tricky.

    Modeling something like a wheel wrapping chain around itself, thus providing the motive force to lift the entire door? Yikes!

    On that note, how many people did they sacrifice to get the steering stick working as well as they did? That thing scares me.

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    The glyphs are designed in kind of a terrible way I think

    If you follow one of the quests, it actually tells you what order they should be viewed in, but also that results in you criss crossing the continent like a madman, and if you do any sort of exploration and view them as you come across them instead you will 100% get the narrative in a wildly jumbled order

    Yeah, I got the first one and then went "Eh, maybe I don't need to follow the quest line for them and can just go hunting."

    And then I saw memory number... six, I think it was? And I desperately needed to know the context for things, so I then immediately went to where Impa was asking me to go.

    I'm lucky I was able to use my numbered memory context at that point to piece together that the walls in the forgotten temple shows the player the order. I wound up taking pictures of all of the walls to view them in the right order, snapped a shot of the floor map showing where they all were, and went on a series of skydiving adventures to view them chronologically.

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    godmode wrote: »

    I think I’m too dumb to understand why this is amazing, even reading the author’s explanation in the thread.

    Man, I must have been really sleepy while I was doing this puzzle.

    I remember not being able to figure out how to make it work when you need to replicate this (and cheesed it by using rewind after manually opening the door for a few seconds), and now I can clearly realize I was only attaching the wheel to either the door or the chain and not both.

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    The glyphs are designed in kind of a terrible way I think

    If you follow one of the quests, it actually tells you what order they should be viewed in, but also that results in you criss crossing the continent like a madman, and if you do any sort of exploration and view them as you come across them instead you will 100% get the narrative in a wildly jumbled order

    I criss-crossed the map the get them all in order, it's not so bad if you get the towers along the way.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Andy Joe wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    The glyphs are designed in kind of a terrible way I think

    If you follow one of the quests, it actually tells you what order they should be viewed in, but also that results in you criss crossing the continent like a madman, and if you do any sort of exploration and view them as you come across them instead you will 100% get the narrative in a wildly jumbled order

    I criss-crossed the map the get them all in order, it's not so bad if you get the towers along the way.

    Thats what I did knocked out both at once

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    It's probably fine I yeeted that green crystal out of the floating stone orb in the sky, right? Why else would they include a launcher inside?

    Of course now I have no idea where the crystal went or what it's used for but that's a future me's problem.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    It's probably fine I yeeted that green crystal out of the floating stone orb in the sky, right? Why else would they include a launcher inside?

    Of course now I have no idea where the crystal went or what it's used for but that's a future me's problem.

    It'll reset. It probably already did if it didn't land on the platform it needs to go to, in fact.

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    Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
    I did the quest with Impa to get the first glyph and had a tragic unplanned deceleration at ground level when I jumped out of the hot air balloon, which reset my save to before I started the quest

    They haven't really planned for the case where you find the tear before talking to Impa, because she just suddenly shows up and carries on as if you have been speaking all along

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2023
    Lanz wrote: »
    Okay where can i find horriblins. Just plain, regular, default horriblins.

    I need five more horns and this fairy won’t take the other varieties of horriblin horn for this froggy cap

    In the cave underneath the map tower in the area directly east of the lookout landing starting area.

    I know this because I just fought them five minutes ago.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It is funny if you do the first Impa quest before you get the paraglider

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I killed my first Gleeok yesterday! It wasn't ultimately that hard because my armor's upgraded and I had a lot of food, but I did run out of arrows very early on which made that fight very annoying, for honestly, not great rewards

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    The big key to Gleeok's for me is homing arrows.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    yeah, I also was running pretty low on eyes

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    The big key to Gleeok's for me is homing arrows.

    I find having some sort of "get altitude" thing (a platform suspended in the air, a fan on the ground, anything climbable in the arena, whatever) to be a big help. Get up, drop, hit that slowmo bow, pop all three heads before I hit the ground.

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    I've been farming Lynels too goddamn much, I''m actually maxed out on arrows

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    I killed my first Gleeok yesterday! It wasn't ultimately that hard because my armor's upgraded and I had a lot of food, but I did run out of arrows very early on which made that fight very annoying, for honestly, not great rewards

    Gleeok horns have the virtue of being the strongest elemental fusion part. Not only do they have a monstrous 30 Atk, but unlike every other elemental part, they never have to recharge mid fight. They just keep going.

    Also they literally make the blade out of whatever element the horn is every time you attack, which is pretty cool.

    Try fusing them to a shield as well and then parrying some jerks with it, the results are very useful.

    As to fighting them - eyes are great, but also every Gleeok I've encountered has usually had some way to ascend and get airtime for manual headshots nearby.

    Eyes are still easiest though, especially when combo'd with a multishot now - strong enough ones can take out multiple heads in a single shot, which is very funny.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I'll have to go on a resource hunt again soon, my food stores are pretty low now. Another "problem" is that I've got a number of good melee weapons (two biggoron swords, which I just realized is "big goron" mashed together) and fewer good bows

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Wtf is a gleeok

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    The big key to Gleeok's for me is homing arrows.

    I find having some sort of "get altitude" thing (a platform suspended in the air, a fan on the ground, anything climbable in the arena, whatever) to be a big help. Get up, drop, hit that slowmo bow, pop all three heads before I hit the ground.

    Rocket Shields it also helps you stop it's big doom attack if youre fast enough

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Wtf is a gleeok

    three headed dragon

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Wtf is a gleeok

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Wtf is a gleeok

    three headed dragon

    Oh I avoided all those the whole game

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    not a bad call, as fights they aren't...terribly fun

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    I like em. They're not very involved fights, but they're very easy once you solve them.

    Last king Gleeok I ran into crashed into the ground, lost 70% of it's hp, got airborne, crashedv and never got up again. Poor fucker had no idea what stomped him

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Dys wrote: »
    I've been farming Lynels too goddamn much, I''m actually maxed out on arrows

    The one item I wish I could dupe.

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    Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    I mean, dupe diamonds and buy arrows if you want.

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    The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Fig-D wrote: »
    I mean, dupe diamonds and buy arrows if you want.

    I just made a habit of buying arrows regularly and have since stopped, because my arrow supplies just keep going up and up access what the hell am I gonna do with all these arrows?

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    I'm hovering around 500-600 arrows at a time.

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    Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    I was having a real hard time finding arrows in the, I dunno, early-mid game? Basically when I was cruising around Hyrule putting off the main story path as long as I could. After completing my second dungeon the game started handing out arrows like candy. I'm finding a lot of 10 stacks, which I didn't even know were a thing early on! Suddenly I went from 20-ish arrows that I had to conserve to 600 arrows that I shoot at things because I don't want to spend melee weapon durability.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Last week I had zero arrows at one point.

    I just broke 500 this week.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I can build my way up to about a hundred arrows if I go in and focus on clearing out monster dens, because there are generally a ton of boxes to break with arrows inside. Stables usually have some, too. This game is one where it really rewards you for switching up what you're doing every couple of hours, because each area/task generally has different rewards that'll help you with the other stuff you're not currently working on

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Went back exploring in the Depths for a bit and it's really evil how there's super high temperature zones in there that you don't notice until you're gliding through them and realize you can't see what's below you to know if it's safe to drop and warp out of your newfound hell. So I think I'll hold off on that for a bit because apparently there is a way to get Flamebreaker pieces for free, even if I can just buy them outright. It's adventurer law though to never pay for something you can get without paying, murderhobo notwithstanding.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Dys wrote: »
    I've been farming Lynels too goddamn much, I''m actually maxed out on arrows

    The one item I wish I could dupe.

    They can be duped, apparently.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    i mean you can just buy arrows

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