Kruleboyz Monsta-Killaz are... a super weird choice?
You manufacture three distinct types of Orruks, with tight ranges - hard ladz, swamp ladz, and monster hunters. And to add to the swamp ladz range... you decide to make ones that... also hunt monsters.
Or maybe Bonesplittaz are getting shunted off back to The Old World?
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Pestilense rats are great. I hope we continue to get more Skaven in Underworlds, with Skryre and Moulder warbands.
(And I hope they make Skittershank's Clawpack available in such a way that I don't have to pay an unwanted aelf tax.)
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Halos Nach TariffCan you blame me?I'm too famous.Registered Userregular
To be, I guess fair, the Warclans book removed all (or most of?) the special rules that Bonesplittaz had to represent their monster hunting stuff, I don't know if their lore was adjusted to de-emphasise that element? The FEC warcry warband were also monster hunting specialists! I guess it's a go-to design space in the realm of beasts.
I'm quite delighted with all of the CoS stuff they've shown so far, though I was hoping for mixed units of elves/humans/dwarfs, but I can understand why they haven't taken that route I guess.
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The Cities stuff is neat. The Manticore especially is a great model.
On the painting front, I can now knock out Namarti like an industrial manufacturing line. Apothecary White and Akhelian Green, a bit of Black Templar, some metallics and pinks, shade the non-contrast appropriately, and Björn Stronginthearm's your uncle. They look good and aren't excruciating.
i saw online someone had zoomed in on the cities preview image and it lists 2 human sub-factions*, 2 aelf sub-factions* and a dwarf sub-faction*. I doubt elves and dwarves will get new minis but if they have warscrolls and rules that work i'll be happy. just want to play my dark elves!
*may be the wrong way to describe them but my brain is drawing a blank right now
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They're described as 'orders,' so I assume it's some sort of battle trait akin to imperial guard in 40k, but only certain units/heroes can issue orders, etc.
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I told myself no more models, but this CoS stuff is just killing it right now.
The new Harbinger of Decay spoke to me, and after much research about what faction I wanted as my backup Sigmar army I went with Maggotkin. My Seraphon playing buddy had an old unpainted Start Collecting Nurgle Demons stashed away, and I had a Shattered Stormvault collecting dust that he's going to do some light conversion work to. It'll be a bit before I can grab the Harbinger's boxed set (and I still need a bunch of stuff for my Idoneth) but it's fun to mix up the painting projects and theorycraft lists for such radically different factions.
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There was an image leaked from crypts of blood, but it was months ago now, so I'd expect to see it released in the next few weeks. Though I guess I'm not totally clear if it'll be coming through the usual GW channels or if it's more of a general toy store board game thing?
I'm pretty excited to mess with the new General's Handbook. My group and I aren't super competitive, but we do like to mix it up some. I know some long time players don't care for battle tactics and grand strategies, so I'm interested to see if the new season has less auto-take-feely stuff in it. For us, obviously, if we don't like it, we just don't use it.
The new GHB is interesting. First game with it was against Seraphon with croak, and the primal dice helped me more than him I think, as I think they're marginally stronger on unbinding than casting
We played the mission where you get mortals for running or doing bad on charges, which basically killed my vampire lord on zombie dragon, with some real bad rolls.
The tactics feel a bit more tricky to get than the last ghb
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That mission is the main one which I don't like out of this batch, feels like a punishment for something that's basically essential for playing the game normally, but 1 stinker out of 12 isn't bad.
I do quite like the idea of just throwing primal dice into unbinds with the spell eater command trait and forcing enemy wizards to forget crucial spells where possible, could be cute.
Cities continue to look very cool and also continue to look like they're going to be a nightmare for cleanup before assembly. On the other hand very Contrast and underpainting friendly.
Cities are pretty much the 15th century hussites, it looks like. Handcannon, pavise, the helmet design even.
Makes me expect a new War Wagon.
It's kinda fits with a theme that even on their crusades they're kinda focused on defense against more powerful enemies. Using heavy shields and wagon forts for battles
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*Pushes Glasses Up* Those are clearly members of the 95th Regiment. They are armed with rifles. Not muskets.
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Except rifle is short for rifled musket, which is what they're carrying.
No. Rifled muskets refer to firearms that had been smooth-bore but converted to a rifled barrel most commonly seen with weapons in the American Civil War. The 95th Rifles used purpose built Baker Rifles that had never been smooth-bore.
Either way my .69 cal musket can put a lead ball through a six inch wood log so a wooden shield would not be very effective. That's a dude holding a shield that could just be firing and loading another musket to increase the volume of lead balls downrange to hope enough hit the enemy.
All that being said, The Cites of Sigmar models are cool as hell!
Just from looking at the youtube thumbnail I can tell you its a bad idea.
"Yes, please fire your rifle while the muzzle is a foot and a half from my head. No, I won't be wearing any hearing protection, in fact I'll have a giant tin can on my head."
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"WHAT?"
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Just from looking at the youtube thumbnail I can tell you its a bad idea.
"Yes, please fire your rifle while the muzzle is a foot and a half from my head. No, I won't be wearing any hearing protection, in fact I'll have a giant tin can on my head."
Later
"WHAT?"
Single shot muskets and rifles were usually used in two or three ranks. Every solider firing at once in a volley to try and account for the general inaccuracies and slow rate of fire by putting as much lead into the air at once to try and hit the enemy that was usually doing the same thing.
I've done this in real life. It is loud but not crazy loud because the barrels even from the third rank are out past your face.
The worst part is getting hit in the face by the powder burn from the pan of the flintlock of the person to your left. After the prime goes through the touch hole and ignites the main charge, there is some back blast through the touch hole at a high enough pressure to hit the person on the right since you are all elbow to elbow. We tend to use modern flash shields attached to the frizzen screw. It is a curved piece of brass that blocks the explosion going right, but sometimes you get someone without one or you have to take them off for historical accuracy reasons.
Just from looking at the youtube thumbnail I can tell you its a bad idea.
"Yes, please fire your rifle while the muzzle is a foot and a half from my head. No, I won't be wearing any hearing protection, in fact I'll have a giant tin can on my head."
Later
"WHAT?"
Single shot muskets and rifles were usually used in two or three ranks. Every solider firing at once in a volley to try and account for the general inaccuracies and slow rate of fire by putting as much lead into the air at once to try and hit the enemy that was usually doing the same thing.
I've done this in real life. It is loud but not crazy loud because the barrels even from the third rank are out past your face.
The worst part is getting hit in the face by the powder burn from the pan of the flintlock of the person to your left. After the prime goes through the touch hole and ignites the main charge, there is some back blast through the touch hole at a high enough pressure to hit the person on the right since you are all elbow to elbow. We tend to use modern flash shields attached to the frizzen screw. It is a curved piece of brass that blocks the explosion going right, but sometimes you get someone without one or you have to take them off for historical accuracy reasons.
Did you do this with actual ammo, or with just powder/paper for a reenactment? The volume differences between the two are pretty big. Either way, hearing damage is cumulative, and stereocilia don't grow back. You might not think you are doing any longterm damage, but you are. I always tell people to double up on earpro when they are shooting (earbuds plus earmuffs), obviously if you're doing a reenactment the muffs wouldn't really fit the aesthetic, but earbuds are still very useful, and if worn correctly aren't visible outside of the ear. You could probably even find flesh colored ones that would be pretty much invisible.
There have been battlefield physicians talking about hearing damage due to rifle and cannon fire going back as far as the 1500s. As long as we have had guns we have had firearm related hearing loss. It would be even worse when you're wearing a big metal helmet.
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Just from looking at the youtube thumbnail I can tell you its a bad idea.
"Yes, please fire your rifle while the muzzle is a foot and a half from my head. No, I won't be wearing any hearing protection, in fact I'll have a giant tin can on my head."
Later
"WHAT?"
Single shot muskets and rifles were usually used in two or three ranks. Every solider firing at once in a volley to try and account for the general inaccuracies and slow rate of fire by putting as much lead into the air at once to try and hit the enemy that was usually doing the same thing.
I've done this in real life. It is loud but not crazy loud because the barrels even from the third rank are out past your face.
The worst part is getting hit in the face by the powder burn from the pan of the flintlock of the person to your left. After the prime goes through the touch hole and ignites the main charge, there is some back blast through the touch hole at a high enough pressure to hit the person on the right since you are all elbow to elbow. We tend to use modern flash shields attached to the frizzen screw. It is a curved piece of brass that blocks the explosion going right, but sometimes you get someone without one or you have to take them off for historical accuracy reasons.
Did you do this with actual ammo, or with just powder/paper for a reenactment? The volume differences between the two are pretty big. Either way, hearing damage is cumulative, and stereocilia don't grow back. You might not think you are doing any longterm damage, but you are. I always tell people to double up on earpro when they are shooting (earbuds plus earmuffs), obviously if you're doing a reenactment the muffs wouldn't really fit the aesthetic, but earbuds are still very useful, and if worn correctly aren't visible outside of the ear. You could probably even find flesh colored ones that would be pretty much invisible.
There have been battlefield physicians talking about hearing damage due to rifle and cannon fire going back as far as the 1500s. As long as we have had guns we have had firearm related hearing loss. It would be even worse when you're wearing a big metal helmet.
Just from looking at the youtube thumbnail I can tell you its a bad idea.
"Yes, please fire your rifle while the muzzle is a foot and a half from my head. No, I won't be wearing any hearing protection, in fact I'll have a giant tin can on my head."
Later
"WHAT?"
Single shot muskets and rifles were usually used in two or three ranks. Every solider firing at once in a volley to try and account for the general inaccuracies and slow rate of fire by putting as much lead into the air at once to try and hit the enemy that was usually doing the same thing.
I've done this in real life. It is loud but not crazy loud because the barrels even from the third rank are out past your face.
The worst part is getting hit in the face by the powder burn from the pan of the flintlock of the person to your left. After the prime goes through the touch hole and ignites the main charge, there is some back blast through the touch hole at a high enough pressure to hit the person on the right since you are all elbow to elbow. We tend to use modern flash shields attached to the frizzen screw. It is a curved piece of brass that blocks the explosion going right, but sometimes you get someone without one or you have to take them off for historical accuracy reasons.
Did you do this with actual ammo, or with just powder/paper for a reenactment? The volume differences between the two are pretty big. Either way, hearing damage is cumulative, and stereocilia don't grow back. You might not think you are doing any longterm damage, but you are. I always tell people to double up on earpro when they are shooting (earbuds plus earmuffs), obviously if you're doing a reenactment the muffs wouldn't really fit the aesthetic, but earbuds are still very useful, and if worn correctly aren't visible outside of the ear. You could probably even find flesh colored ones that would be pretty much invisible.
There have been battlefield physicians talking about hearing damage due to rifle and cannon fire going back as far as the 1500s. As long as we have had guns we have had firearm related hearing loss. It would be even worse when you're wearing a big metal helmet.
Pretty much every army buddy I have has hearing loss of some kind, even with modern hearing protection.
These sigmar dudes with shields (as previously mentioned, based off historical wagon warriors) seem to be an entirely different ballgame. When you're the guys with (hand)cannons, and your opponents are the ones with arrows/rocks/acidspit/ghosthands/explodingmushrooms/assortedshrapnel/etc etc, having a big wooden door to stand behind seems like a pretty sensible idea.
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Yes presumably the shields are more useful against the various enemies the cities would typically be fighting, of whom only like skaven and maybe kharadron would be likely to have guns.
Plus this is a fantasy setting who knows what kind of fucked up super wood they might have access to.
Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
This encapsulates most of my knowledge of 18th century warfare.
The guy named "Guybrush Threepwood" charging into the French lines with a guy named "Pvt. Dancer" is peak historical immersion.
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Mmm, it's probably some kinda Steelbark Ironwood from Chamon, impervious to all but the most magical of bullets! Plus, y'know, it probably just gives a +1 save or unrendable vs missile weapons, or something, so it's not like they're going to be immune to damage.
Yes presumably the shields are more useful against the various enemies the cities would typically be fighting, of whom only like skaven and maybe kharadron would be likely to have guns.
Plus this is a fantasy setting who knows what kind of fucked up super wood they might have access to.
Every time I look at the new City of Sigmar models I want them more.
I don't need a third AoS army, do I?
This is the question when whatever Malerion's army is. THe Slaanesh pull double duty so they don't really count as a 3rd
Now if Tyrion's is more martial than magical and has dragons I see my brother getting it or if the satyr elves are more like the wood elves of old
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Every time I look at the new City of Sigmar models I want them more.
I don't need a third AoS army, do I?
Need? Of course not. But you didn't need the first two now did you but you still got them!
CoS has some really nice models. I started an army a few months ago because
1.) I am an idiot and thought starting an army in the same year it is likely going to be completely redone would be a good idea
2.) I wanted to get some of the awesome existing models before they were discontinued, and
3.) I wanted to get some of the awesome existing models before their replacements saw massive price hikes
I can't wait to finally finish painting stuff like my Steam Tanks and Demigryph Knights the day before the new Battletome is released that squats them. Luckily I'm pretty sure that even if GW does a major hatchet job to the model line most if not all of my Freeguild models should be proxy-able for the new kits, although I'll have to rebase everyone which will be a pain in the ass.
Anyway, now is the simultaneously best and worst time to start a Cities army. If you do decide to start one before the new relaunch I would focus on Dwarves for the time being. They're cool models, but they've also shown up in the Dawnbringers Crusade promo images unchanged, so they should see any major shifts to their product lines (unlike Aelves, which are rumored to be getting nuked, and Freeguild, which are getting replaced).
most if not all of my Freeguild models should be proxy-able for the new kits, although I'll have to rebase everyone which will be a pain in the ass.
i have seen some speculation/analysis on the preview images where people think the new basic infantry are still on 25mm bases, which would be great if true.
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You manufacture three distinct types of Orruks, with tight ranges - hard ladz, swamp ladz, and monster hunters. And to add to the swamp ladz range... you decide to make ones that... also hunt monsters.
Or maybe Bonesplittaz are getting shunted off back to The Old World?
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More Warcry baboons.
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Bretonnian BSB is resin.
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Pestilense rats are great. I hope we continue to get more Skaven in Underworlds, with Skryre and Moulder warbands.
(And I hope they make Skittershank's Clawpack available in such a way that I don't have to pay an unwanted aelf tax.)
I'm quite delighted with all of the CoS stuff they've shown so far, though I was hoping for mixed units of elves/humans/dwarfs, but I can understand why they haven't taken that route I guess.
I was thinking the same thing! I love the style of these goofs.
On the painting front, I can now knock out Namarti like an industrial manufacturing line. Apothecary White and Akhelian Green, a bit of Black Templar, some metallics and pinks, shade the non-contrast appropriately, and Björn Stronginthearm's your uncle. They look good and aren't excruciating.
*may be the wrong way to describe them but my brain is drawing a blank right now
the Crypt of blood
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/04/warcry-starter-set-vampires-battle-stormcast-eternals-in-the-crypt-of-blood/
https://warhammer-community.com/2023/07/06/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-examining-the-2023-2024-generals-handbook/
As for the merch, yeesh, talk about rich blooded.
Did they give a release window on this or are they just reacting to a leak here? I kind of just want those minis to paint.
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We played the mission where you get mortals for running or doing bad on charges, which basically killed my vampire lord on zombie dragon, with some real bad rolls.
The tactics feel a bit more tricky to get than the last ghb
I do quite like the idea of just throwing primal dice into unbinds with the spell eater command trait and forcing enemy wizards to forget crucial spells where possible, could be cute.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/10/freeguild-fusiliers-take-aim-and-fire-on-the-enemies-of-sigmar/
Cities continue to look very cool and also continue to look like they're going to be a nightmare for cleanup before assembly. On the other hand very Contrast and underpainting friendly.
Makes me expect a new War Wagon.
It's kinda fits with a theme that even on their crusades they're kinda focused on defense against more powerful enemies. Using heavy shields and wagon forts for battles
*Pushes Glasses Up* Those are clearly members of the 95th Regiment. They are armed with rifles. Not muskets.
VIDEO ALREADY INVALID!
Except rifle is short for rifled musket, which is what they're carrying.
No. Rifled muskets refer to firearms that had been smooth-bore but converted to a rifled barrel most commonly seen with weapons in the American Civil War. The 95th Rifles used purpose built Baker Rifles that had never been smooth-bore.
Either way my .69 cal musket can put a lead ball through a six inch wood log so a wooden shield would not be very effective. That's a dude holding a shield that could just be firing and loading another musket to increase the volume of lead balls downrange to hope enough hit the enemy.
All that being said, The Cites of Sigmar models are cool as hell!
"Yes, please fire your rifle while the muzzle is a foot and a half from my head. No, I won't be wearing any hearing protection, in fact I'll have a giant tin can on my head."
Later
"WHAT?"
Single shot muskets and rifles were usually used in two or three ranks. Every solider firing at once in a volley to try and account for the general inaccuracies and slow rate of fire by putting as much lead into the air at once to try and hit the enemy that was usually doing the same thing.
I've done this in real life. It is loud but not crazy loud because the barrels even from the third rank are out past your face.
The worst part is getting hit in the face by the powder burn from the pan of the flintlock of the person to your left. After the prime goes through the touch hole and ignites the main charge, there is some back blast through the touch hole at a high enough pressure to hit the person on the right since you are all elbow to elbow. We tend to use modern flash shields attached to the frizzen screw. It is a curved piece of brass that blocks the explosion going right, but sometimes you get someone without one or you have to take them off for historical accuracy reasons.
Did you do this with actual ammo, or with just powder/paper for a reenactment? The volume differences between the two are pretty big. Either way, hearing damage is cumulative, and stereocilia don't grow back. You might not think you are doing any longterm damage, but you are. I always tell people to double up on earpro when they are shooting (earbuds plus earmuffs), obviously if you're doing a reenactment the muffs wouldn't really fit the aesthetic, but earbuds are still very useful, and if worn correctly aren't visible outside of the ear. You could probably even find flesh colored ones that would be pretty much invisible.
There have been battlefield physicians talking about hearing damage due to rifle and cannon fire going back as far as the 1500s. As long as we have had guns we have had firearm related hearing loss. It would be even worse when you're wearing a big metal helmet.
Fair.
Pretty much every army buddy I have has hearing loss of some kind, even with modern hearing protection.
These sigmar dudes with shields (as previously mentioned, based off historical wagon warriors) seem to be an entirely different ballgame. When you're the guys with (hand)cannons, and your opponents are the ones with arrows/rocks/acidspit/ghosthands/explodingmushrooms/assortedshrapnel/etc etc, having a big wooden door to stand behind seems like a pretty sensible idea.
Plus this is a fantasy setting who knows what kind of fucked up super wood they might have access to.
The guy named "Guybrush Threepwood" charging into the French lines with a guy named "Pvt. Dancer" is peak historical immersion.
This is for a flesh eater courts mini, I'm calling it now. Like a brettonian reliquary banner but with a still un-living vampire saint corpse.
I don't need a third AoS army, do I?
fucked up super wood is the title of my sex tape
This is the question when whatever Malerion's army is. THe Slaanesh pull double duty so they don't really count as a 3rd
Now if Tyrion's is more martial than magical and has dragons I see my brother getting it or if the satyr elves are more like the wood elves of old
Need? Of course not. But you didn't need the first two now did you but you still got them!
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Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
CoS has some really nice models. I started an army a few months ago because
1.) I am an idiot and thought starting an army in the same year it is likely going to be completely redone would be a good idea
2.) I wanted to get some of the awesome existing models before they were discontinued, and
3.) I wanted to get some of the awesome existing models before their replacements saw massive price hikes
I can't wait to finally finish painting stuff like my Steam Tanks and Demigryph Knights the day before the new Battletome is released that squats them. Luckily I'm pretty sure that even if GW does a major hatchet job to the model line most if not all of my Freeguild models should be proxy-able for the new kits, although I'll have to rebase everyone which will be a pain in the ass.
Anyway, now is the simultaneously best and worst time to start a Cities army. If you do decide to start one before the new relaunch I would focus on Dwarves for the time being. They're cool models, but they've also shown up in the Dawnbringers Crusade promo images unchanged, so they should see any major shifts to their product lines (unlike Aelves, which are rumored to be getting nuked, and Freeguild, which are getting replaced).
i have seen some speculation/analysis on the preview images where people think the new basic infantry are still on 25mm bases, which would be great if true.