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The [Baseball] thread approaches the postseason

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Is a Mike Trout injury basically the free square on a baseball bingo card?

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  • ChallChall Registered User regular
    Knee surgery for Mike Trout

    Not supposed to be season ending but we’ll see

    I didn't know Trout had knees

  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Short answer on AD -- Yeah I would take him for draft picks, but don't think the Lakers would go for that.

    Longer -- AD is awesome, and can fit in with just about any team. It probably wouldn't be like a 4+ year stay, so it seems like we could figure out a way to fit his contract in now while so many of our young guys are still on rookie deals.

    But I think the Lakers would want a player for him, and I don't think we will or should do that. They would do it for very high value draft picks, but we don't have a bunch of top tier "will probably/almost certainly be in the lottery" picks. Fair to project OKC's own picks won't be in the lottery, and the rest are pretty low % chances of being a top tier lottery pick. A lot of top 5 protections, some top 10 protections, and/or from teams that right now just don't look like they'll be in a position to turn into a top 5ish pick either. There's a chance! But long shots. Clippers seem very tentative year to year and I could see a mass exodus, but I don't see Ballmer hard tanking with the fancy new arena coming online.

    That leaves SGA, Jalen Williams, or Chet to get him, and I don't see it happening, SGA is obvious. Jalen Williams is still way too unknown to a lot of people, but is absolutely ridiculous for a 2nd year player and is almost certainly a future all star. Chet is basically our entire (very effective) rim protection when he's on the floor, he fits the team really well because of that, Presti loves him, and the upside is pretty silly. Lu Dort has somehow gone from a defensive specialist/terrible shooter (in)famous for being left completely open from 3 in our bubble playoff series against the Rockets to shooting 40% from 3 on volume, and may be the best 3 and D guy in the league right now. He's on a super team friendly deal and I don't see him going either.

    So that leaves Giddey, our picks, and a few high quality bench players on incredibly team friendly deals. I don't really see LA going for that without demanding so many picks that we say no, as the team friendly deals of Isiah Joe (thanks Philly) and Cason Wallace don't really help a tanking team despite helping us a lot.

    My expectation is that the picks are going to be used to trade for high quality role players more than one big headline superstar. Eventually we have to worry about paying a lot of guys, and the picks + trading them around to get other players are what we need to build a roster around the big money deals. We do have cap space in the short term, but yeah not seeing how we get AD here despite it being a good fit.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    76ers falling apart. Not surprising, really, and Embiid has the worst body language this side of Lebron

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Lol holy shit, what an ending. Into OT!

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Maxey with the hard bailout of Embiid this game, as we all predicted.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Lol of course there's a big reviewed call at the end....

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    Fiatil wrote: »
    Short answer on AD -- Yeah I would take him for draft picks, but don't think the Lakers would go for that.

    Longer -- AD is awesome, and can fit in with just about any team. It probably wouldn't be like a 4+ year stay, so it seems like we could figure out a way to fit his contract in now while so many of our young guys are still on rookie deals.

    But I think the Lakers would want a player for him, and I don't think we will or should do that. They would do it for very high value draft picks, but we don't have a bunch of top tier "will probably/almost certainly be in the lottery" picks. Fair to project OKC's own picks won't be in the lottery, and the rest are pretty low % chances of being a top tier lottery pick. A lot of top 5 protections, some top 10 protections, and/or from teams that right now just don't look like they'll be in a position to turn into a top 5ish pick either. There's a chance! But long shots. Clippers seem very tentative year to year and I could see a mass exodus, but I don't see Ballmer hard tanking with the fancy new arena coming online.

    That leaves SGA, Jalen Williams, or Chet to get him, and I don't see it happening, SGA is obvious. Jalen Williams is still way too unknown to a lot of people, but is absolutely ridiculous for a 2nd year player and is almost certainly a future all star. Chet is basically our entire (very effective) rim protection when he's on the floor, he fits the team really well because of that, Presti loves him, and the upside is pretty silly. Lu Dort has somehow gone from a defensive specialist/terrible shooter (in)famous for being left completely open from 3 in our bubble playoff series against the Rockets to shooting 40% from 3 on volume, and may be the best 3 and D guy in the league right now. He's on a super team friendly deal and I don't see him going either.

    So that leaves Giddey, our picks, and a few high quality bench players on incredibly team friendly deals. I don't really see LA going for that without demanding so many picks that we say no, as the team friendly deals of Isiah Joe (thanks Philly) and Cason Wallace don't really help a tanking team despite helping us a lot.

    My expectation is that the picks are going to be used to trade for high quality role players more than one big headline superstar. Eventually we have to worry about paying a lot of guys, and the picks + trading them around to get other players are what we need to build a roster around the big money deals. We do have cap space in the short term, but yeah not seeing how we get AD here despite it being a good fit.

    ::Phoenix dangling Durant in a 3-way for OKCs picks enters the chat::

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    The As have the best closer in baseball

    Like teats on a bull

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  • KnightKnight Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    phillies were the first team in baseball to 20 wins and are still .5 games behind the braves.

    the world is cruel sometimes lol

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    The Lakers have an interesting offseason to consider if LeBron still wants to play with Bronny.

    If that's not a thing then Bronny made a terrible decision in declaring for the draft. I mean, it was a terrible decision regardless, but it's an even more terrible decision without that motivation.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Declaring for the draft is pretty risk free now-a-days, if you don't hire an agent.

    I think Bronny has 0 chance of "legitimately" being drafted, but he can still go back to college either way.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    The Lakers should run far away from that

    The Pelicans can take their 1st this year (though they will likely take next year’s and leave the Lakers with their own pick at 17)

    The Lakers also have their 2nd

    Bronny is around a 13th round talent

    Agreeing up front to draft Bronny when you desperately need low-salary young guys is stupid

    Do you have the balls to tell Lebron that you won’t draft him but will consider signing him as an UDFA? That risks Lebron dangling his free agency to someone else

    Agreeing to it then allows other teams to fuck with you by saying they’ll draft Bronny before you can- very likely nobody would but that’s potentially a butt-puckering risk

    That’s just with the picks- having a father and son on the same roster, with conditions/expectations, is 1) an HR nightmare 2) an inevitable drama-fest that will tear the team apart and 3) absolutely fucking horrible for Bronny, this whole thing has to be murdering his soul and self-esteem

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    Fiatil wrote: »
    Declaring for the draft is pretty risk free now-a-days, if you don't hire an agent.

    I think Bronny has 0 chance of "legitimately" being drafted, but he can still go back to college either way.

    Bronny has an agent without having to sign with an agent, ha, yeah

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Yeah that ties into the flip side of why it's kind of weird.

    Like I've seen people say he could benefit from the scouts and analysis of his game he'll get from the pre-draft process, but I feel like he has access to that already? But what's more "nepotism" than trying to get that stuff for free when you could otherwise pay for it I guess.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Yeaaaah kind of wacky. Imagine one of your brothers gets kicked out of the NBA, the other goes to jail for the fallout from his DUI, and you then respond by getting your own DUI. Get an uber people.

    It turns out MPJ is the least crazy member of his family by just being an anti-vax crunchy wackadoodle instead of that + *gestures to rest of his family*.

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  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    Using hat as glove?

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • KnightKnight Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    phillies struck out 18 times today and won the game.

    angels also struck out 10 times so of the 54 outs 28 were strikeouts. pretty weird baseball game.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    Knight_ wrote: »
    phillies struck out 18 times today and won the game.

    angels also struck out 10 times so of the 54 outs 28 were strikeouts. pretty weird baseball game.

    That's like a microcosm of the trend in stats the last 15 years. Between velo and spin-rate juicing/over training it's now normal for the league to have more strikeouts than hits per season. K/9 numbers are the highest they've ever been, league average is down about .030 compared to 20 years ago.

    The hell with anyone touching Ted Williams/.400, you'll be lucky to see another George Brett or Tony Gwynn .380+ season again.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    I wasn't expecting two series to end tonight. Celtics Heat looking very over, aaand unfortunately it appears the exciting ending to 76ers Knicks we saw last night was fraudulent:
    According to the NBA's Last Two Minute Report from Game 5 of the instant classic first-round series between the Philadelphia 76ers and New York Knicks, Tyrese Maxey's heroics never should've happened.

    That's because the league said the game's refereeing crew missed a Maxey travel on his 3-pointer with 25.4 seconds to go, on which he was fouled by Knicks center Mitchell Robinson and made the free throw, beginning Philadelphia's remarkable comeback from down 6 with 28.9 seconds remaining in regulation to eventually win 112-106 in overtime and keep the 76ers' season alive.
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    There were three other calls that were deemed incorrect: there should have been 0.4 seconds left in regulation, and Knicks ball, after Nicolas Batum blocked Jalen Brunson's potential game-tying shot out of bounds (the clock instead ran out, sending the game to overtime); Brunson should've been called for an offensive foul in overtime on the play that ultimately became a flagrant foul on Joel Embiid for hitting Brunson in the head; and Josh Hart was not actually out of bounds with 41.5 seconds to go.

    Pack it up, on to the next round.

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  • DirtyboyDirtyboy Registered User regular
    Benches clear in Brewers-Rays game after Milwaukee manager Pat Murphy loses his mind, a breakdown


    Brewers starting pitcher Freddy Peralta received a five-game suspension for intentionally throwing at Siri during the top of the sixth inning of the Brewers' 8-2 victory while reliever Abner Uribe received six games after he and Siri squared off against each other two innings later.

    Siri received a three-game suspension -- that was later reduced to two games -- while Murphy will miss two games as a result of Peralta's actions in addition to his inappropriate conduct toward umpires.

    All four were also fined.

  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    TelMarine wrote: »
    Fiatil wrote: »
    I wasn't expecting two series to end tonight. Celtics Heat looking very over, aaand unfortunately it appears the exciting ending to 76ers Knicks we saw last night was fraudulent:
    According to the NBA's Last Two Minute Report from Game 5 of the instant classic first-round series between the Philadelphia 76ers and New York Knicks, Tyrese Maxey's heroics never should've happened.

    That's because the league said the game's refereeing crew missed a Maxey travel on his 3-pointer with 25.4 seconds to go, on which he was fouled by Knicks center Mitchell Robinson and made the free throw, beginning Philadelphia's remarkable comeback from down 6 with 28.9 seconds remaining in regulation to eventually win 112-106 in overtime and keep the 76ers' season alive.
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    There were three other calls that were deemed incorrect: there should have been 0.4 seconds left in regulation, and Knicks ball, after Nicolas Batum blocked Jalen Brunson's potential game-tying shot out of bounds (the clock instead ran out, sending the game to overtime); Brunson should've been called for an offensive foul in overtime on the play that ultimately became a flagrant foul on Joel Embiid for hitting Brunson in the head; and Josh Hart was not actually out of bounds with 41.5 seconds to go.

    Pack it up, on to the next round.

    Too bad Jimmy got hurt, I think it would've been a good series.

    Adam Silver had to extend the series, Western conference had too many sweeps.

    That must have been so painful for him, given his well documented and thoroughly proven hatred of the 76ers.

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    The very simple explanation is that NYC WAS the bigger market for game 2, but that swapped to Philly after so many Knicks fans made the trip to take over their stadium.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Man, its too bad Kyrie is such a dipshit, because he cab be can be a pretty damn fun player to watch ball.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Another illustrious entry in the long and distinguished history of Harden and PG playoff flops.

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  • admanadman unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    god watching baseball players fight is so funny

  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    admanb wrote: »
    god watching baseball players fight is so funny

    I don't know Monty, Vaighn's carrying his left a little low, this could come back to hurt him in the later rounds.
    https://youtu.be/0RfMVu-bfng?si=_HG5XtTve1zwoKQF

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  • FiatilFiatil Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Alright Clippers, time to force game 7.

    I think our series start date is set either way, but wear each other out and give me some good games.

    Also looks like Milwaukee/Indiana gets the fun 3:30 pacific start time today. Doc Rivers has a chance to do the funniest thing and lose with Giannis and Lillard after blowing them out without either last game, if they can make it back.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Dirtyboy wrote: »
    Benches clear in Brewers-Rays game after Milwaukee manager Pat Murphy loses his mind, a breakdown


    Brewers starting pitcher Freddy Peralta received a five-game suspension for intentionally throwing at Siri during the top of the sixth inning of the Brewers' 8-2 victory while reliever Abner Uribe received six games after he and Siri squared off against each other two innings later.

    Siri received a three-game suspension -- that was later reduced to two games -- while Murphy will miss two games as a result of Peralta's actions in addition to his inappropriate conduct toward umpires.

    All four were also fined.

    Who among us hasn't wanted to chuck a baseball at Siri, or Alexa, or Hey Google?

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    The Mavs are just exploiting the major weakness of Clips that everyone has known since January; they are old and slow in transition. They simply can't compete with a team that can force a quicker pace without Leonard, and they still struggle at that even with him.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    I had the wrong thread open

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  • marajimaraji Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    burbo wrote: »
    Man, its too bad Kyrie is such a dipshit, because he cab be can be a pretty damn fun player to watch ball.

    He’s maybe top of the list of players with the biggest gap between on and off court appeal.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    All that drama, and Dame just ends up back where he always was with the Blazers.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Well shit, this might end up giving me a free evening if this keeps up

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    edited April 11
    Stay classy Patrick Beverley...

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    Buddy Buckets is ballin. Love to see it from the former King

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    lowry and tobias harris want to go on vacation despite embiid's best efforts

    Theyve combined for 3 shot attempts in 39 minutes of play. Crazy.

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  • burboburbo Registered User regular
    edited April 11
    This is such a great game. Can we make them play best of 15?

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