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Inaugural Coin Return Board of Directors Election [2025] - VOTING closed. Results soon.
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Fuckin' A dude! This is a rad thing to do.
would you believe not a single person has gone to bat for him? a shocker, I know
presumably you were led astray by the olivia colman vibes
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In case it wasn't clear, disabling Twitter embeds to not send them any traffic (by simply showing the raw URL link instead) is one of the personal preferences. The settings page explains it for those who are motivated by that.
I think if we are going to ban Twitter usage, we should also ban screenshots. In my view, posting screenshots is actually worse, because they are difficult to verify and prone to fake news. I don't think people should be just taking a screenshot someone gave them and spreading it around.
If we feel that there's enough important stuff happening on Twitter that it's not feasible to ban screenshots, then we should not ban the posting of links IMO. The tools are there to let people decide for themselves how to engage with it. There will be some social pressure to not just post Twitter links without discussion, because a lot of people won't want to click it.
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You'd be surprised how difficult it is for a wound to heal when the person responsible for the injury keeps shoving salt into it and insisting that they simply were not aware that shoving salt into a wound would be such a big deal to the wrong sort.
1) tynic - Actual robotics genius who makes some of the best posts on the forum, both informative and shitpost. One of like 3 or 4 people I reference when I’m trying to convince offline folks these forums are cool, actually (sorry tynic haha).
2) DrZiplock - Extremely qualified for a board position and a fixture at PAXes back in the day.
3) Raijin Quickfoot - Representative of the heart of these forums and trying to make them a fun place. Continuing to manage Secret Saints alone is enough to qualify him and LDB would disqualify him anywhere but here.
4)spono - a great dude who is probably flying under the radar a bit. Would definitely do a fantastic job.
For #5 I’m not entirely sure who I’ll pick yet but since my votes are heavily SE folks I’ll probably try to figure out someone from the other subforums. I’ll also pick a couple other folks whose responses in here I’ve liked and rank them. But I want to advocate for my top 4 because they are all great.
I appreciate him for his willingness not to back down in the face of a witch hunt, and to continue standing on his principles and belief that he can be a positive force for CORE despite the level of unwarranted vitriol he's earned.
We have so so many vague accusations of these terrible things he's done. Some of them are really mean spirited and inflammatory! He's an abuser now? He's apart of mass campaigns to drive off posters.
But there's no evidence or specificity to any of it. So we settled on a witch hunt because he.....has access to a mod forum that virtually every ex-mod has had access to for long periods of time. He broke no rules, he didn't hide it -- yes some people didn't know about it (you may note this is very common with everything regarding the TT too -- lots of people learning for the first time who's on what committee and such in these threads), but because of what appears to be a decades long campaign to harass him off of the forums, this is now the most important disqualifying thing ever that we must talk about forever.
Of course, with occasional allusions to much worse things like "harassment" and "abuser". Because those would be very bad, but we keep just getting vague allegations and no concrete details on these things.
It certainly feels like a lot of people are upset at him for....moderating, on the PA forums, for a long time. That moderation, where he gave problematic posters a pretty long leash to mess up but they occasionally couldn't help themselves and he had to actually infract them or *gasp* thread kick them occasionally. This has somehow, through a game of internet telephone, morphed into Jeffe being the worst human ever who kicks your puppies for fun, where people are digging up his PMs and acting like they're super terrible for 15 pages before finally posting them and oh hey they're not very terrible or inflammatory at all.
I'm very happy that he is attempting to stand up for like, actual rules and culture! I can't handle having the heat dialled up on me 24/7 like he has to deal with, and if you can deal with that you can deal with whatever issues Coin Return throws at us.
I feel like, put as plainly as possible, that stating you may vote for him likely opens you up for abuse, so they aren't? It's not a great situation!
There isn't anything more to be said, at least nothing interesting, on that specific topic that hasn't already flamed out across this thread and the one yesterday. People are asking questions, he and the other candidates are answering, and that seems way more useful right now.
As a note (not specifically calling you out), the planned voting method would allow you to rank all 19 candidates if you so choose, you don't necessarily have to pick just a top five.
I dunno man. If jeffe never had access to that mod forum etc then he still had behaved pretty poorly at times. I don't think "literally dozens of people have said they don't think I should do this, but I know I never did anything wrong! It has to be me!" is actually what we need on the board
Jeffe has been volunteering to moderate on these forums for decades and it is hard to appreciate just how much of a commitment that has been to making these forums a place worth hanging out in. I'm glad that he has been willing to keep helping while on the board. You don't moderate for twenty years without building up some grievances, but I've always found him to be fair and congenial. That much time spent at the wheel has built up a lot of trust, and I think his perspective will be very helpful as we move into a new spot.
It's not a witch hunt when there is a screenshot of him posting on mod actions about him when he is not a mod. That is abuse of power, that most users didn't know he had.
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I'm of the opinion that if you're of the mind that there is a candidate is so unlikeable as to have nobody go to bat for them, and has no discernable talents that would justify them having a position in spite of their unlikability, then this seems like a situation that resolves itself in the best possible way - a large scale rejection of that candidate at the ballot box.
Calls for them to remove themselves from the ballot and whatnot seem like overegging the pudding.
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Okay look
I’m gonna try to be very fair and not-awful about this
I think most of us just don’t care. Or we disagree with the assertions of the coterie against his position, just not to any vehement or actionable degree. I have no dog in this hunt, no horse in this race. He has never slighted me or anyone I’m very close with, and I’ve known him for two decades. We are not best buds, but we are what I would call friends and I do enjoy his inclusion here, and I’ve never seen him display a lapse in judgment that I would judge to be morally disqualifying.
A few pages back, I made a very unpointed rebuttal to the assertion this place was empirically homophobic, and that post got a lot of positive responses—much moreso than the original post demanding the candidates accept this crime of social injustice and answer for it.
I’m going to use that outcome to extrapolate into the notion that maybe there are some squeaky wheels here who really really really really need someone to take their complaints ultra super seriously…. while the rest of just stay out of it because, well, we can’t be fucked to pull this place apart one stray bit of yarn at a time.
So maybe it’s me. Maybe I’m the problem. There’s a very specific reason I didn’t nominate myself for leadership here despite being one of our seniormost members, and among that is my own knowledge-of-self that says I’m not always capable of being fair or impartial. You need someone better than I can be.
But go to bat for Jeff? Sure. Easy peazy. He’s a solid guy. And I don’t a give single purple fuck about any of the drama eating this thread up. Not one fucking bit. Which is why I’m not running for the board. I’m not fair. I’m not impartial. I don’t care about who is technically right in an endless fight over minutiae when it’s clear that’s all some people care about.
I’ll vote for Jeff just out of spite.
the recent misconduct is very simple and has been clearly explained like a dozen times.
he secretly read confidential reports and advocated for his preferred decisions in the mod forum, despite not being a mod.
that authority was no longer his to wield, and he knew it.
it betrays dishonesty and a lack of judgment.
See this is the thing though, can anyone actually say that the forum community has been headed in a good direction for some time now? Especially his forum? Like yeah damn he's been doing this forever. Lets see what the results are huh?
I am absolutely voting for ElJeffe and I think that everyone knows stating it will open people up for abuse that will not be moderated is one of the major issues that has caused a decline in PA. He has shown excellent judgement over the years, and has continuously been an adult and civil about a series of attacks that keeps getting walked back and withdrawn when receipts are asked for.
I think a substantial majority of D&D posters both current and historical would view the framing of ElJeffe as an abuser as comical.
Again, following the example of many people in our last national election.
EDIT: I mean, if you think the candidate will do a good job, that's one thing. But to do it specifically because, as I've said a couple of times now in this thread, it'll piss off people you don't like? I'm gonna say that's bad.
Yep, I can. The forum has been pretty great for a long time, that's why I've stayed here.
You haven't been an active poster for years though? Like fine ok you're still a poster in good standing etc but there's no reason to think you have your thumb on the pulse.
Ok, so you're a terrible person. Good for you.
Reposting this since it appears to have been overlooked. Or perhaps I missed the answer.
Oglulk/Gereg was given a chance like everybody else, as part of this whole "healing the divide" thing and cooperating with each other. While *I* do not find surprising that he pissed it away, I don't blame anybody that truly thought that he was going to try. He's not here anymore, that's it.
You gain nothing. Nobody fucking cares that you voted for someone out of spite…if you vote for someone, you vote for their beliefs and views. You don’t get to use spite as an attempt to avoid responsibility.
Anyone who has posted in the D&D movie thread knows 'Mika is terrible.
if the best reason you have to vote for someone is spite, that kind of says everything we need to know about him and you. thank you for being honest.
Yes, I’m a terrible person because I’m exhausted by the energy expended in this never-ending purity test by our forum’s most steadfastly begrudged. That’s me. History’s greatest monster. Bake me away, toys.
Well, I am now. Fuck all the way off
There are a lot of generally reasonable people who feel very strongly that he shouldn't have the job. Even in the hypothetical scenario that they were all wrong about him, I still think it would be a very bad start for this community if he won this election. I don't honestly care if they're right about him or not - there are plenty of other options that nobody despises. And I don't see what unique qualities he possesses that justify taking this kind of risk on him. You might be thinking that if Jeffe is right then this is all very unfair to him, and maybe it is! If so, that sucks. But fighting to right that wrong is simply not worth the cost.
You're a terrible person because your response to the multiple, well documented issues that people have with Jeffe was "well he never abused or was a dick to anyone I cared about, it's just you losers who are complaining"
Like, yeah, that makes you a fucking asshole
Christ, get fucked
We are having an election to determine who should have the job. A vocal minority trying to bully him aside is irrelevant to the will of the greater community. If he wins, he wins. If he doesn't he doesn't.
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And for those who will complain about "bullying" I present this page where Atomika has been subjected to textbook prohibited posts twice in like 5 minutes.
I'm not voting for ElJeffe because I disagree with his position on what former mods should be able to do, but it ends there, for me at least.
I'll be voting for Jeffe towards the top, I think he's more than qualified especially with his experience. I fundamentally disagree that he did anything worth disqualifying him and I just don't care if there's a bloc that hates his guts
We want someone to select mods, review appeals and such, who better than someone who shoveled the shit for years?