Bibble why are you such an insufferably annoying cunt most days?
Listen, Basic? Slainbylich? Have either of you guys considered military service? Lots of people join the military because they do not know where to go and feel trapped. These really aren't bad reasons, you know.
Now, I am a civilian, but I have multiple friends who have served in various branches, one of them was an alcoholic at age 19. He joined so he could secure his future, get money for school, and marry the girl of his dreams. Right now he's married and will be finished with his service in 3 months. The military has improved his life immeasurably.
The military is an alright suggestion except for the consideration of the stress it puts on everyone
My sister is getting married next month to a guy she has been dating for seven months, and he's going to Iraq in october for a six month tour
Understandably, an otherwise happy occasion has been marked by the overhanging tour of iraq
It can help you get your life together, sure, but realize the risks involved before you make the leap.
Bibble why are you such an insufferably annoying cunt most days?
Listen, Basic? Slainbylich? Have either of you guys considered military service? Lots of people join the military because they do not know where to go and feel trapped. These really aren't bad reasons, you know.
Now, I am a civilian, but I have multiple friends who have served in various branches, one of them was an alcoholic at age 19. He joined so he could secure his future, get money for school, and marry the girl of his dreams. Right now he's married and will be finished with his service in 3 months. The military has improved his life immeasurably.
NOTE: Also you might die.
I can't pretend to be particularly informed about the military.
But Basic Training doesn't sound like the best choice for overweight, deeply self loathing guys with attitude problems.
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Those closer to suicide then others, Often people will give you the advice "Just be yourself". I hate that advice because it doesn't do anyone any good. The intent behind that saying is "Just be comfortable". We all have different personalities and behavior styles depending on the environment we are in. I know I do not swear at all in front of my grandparents, and everything from my posture to how I say things changes.
You can create these different personalities to suit your situation, you just have to figure out what you want. That is something many people have a hard time in life. It's not easy and there are no books for it, but it is possible. You can do whatever you set your mind to. People have done it in the past and will do it in the future. The amount of roadblocks you encounter are related to your intelligence, your looks, and your finances.
In the end, you are defined by your actions and your wants. Figure out what you want, strive for it, and everything will fall into place.
Our personalities change depending on our wants and environment. All the power to change your image into whatever you want is there.
Of course don't be your fucking self. I was myself for five years and it didn't get me nowhere.
You have to change yourself. Your personality and appearance are not static. You're a goddamn human being, and you can grow and be a wonderful snowflake.
there is one, and only one, reason you should join the military
because you want to actively aid in the defense of your country from armed enemy forces and you are comfortable with killing people in the pursuit of doing so, even if only by associoation.
if you are doing it for any other reason besides that, it's the wrong one.
this is what my dad told me, and it's the reason i didn't join.
Some people have self-esteem issues because they have no direction with their life. The military gives this to you, it forces it on you and it causes some people to thrive.
You will grow and you will develop self-discipline, you will see progress in yourself. I would see military service being bad for people that have chemical instabilities due to genetics or other oddity. Otherwise enlisting is an excellent way of picking you up by your bootstraps and giving you a new hold on life.
Check out enlisting. It will broaden your horizons and give you a new perspective on life.
my grandfather was the Head of Naval Research for a great many years
trust me, the army produces a lot of fucked up individuals. the navy and the air force, not so much. every person from my family that was in the military went on to a wife, kids and a stable career in the field of their desire.
my best friend and the valedictorian of my class went into the AFA about a month and a half ago. gotten a few letters from him - it was pretty rough at first, but he seems to be doing really well now.
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Some people have self-esteem issues because they have no direction with their life. The military gives this to you, it forces it on you and it causes some people to thrive.
Other things will give this to you, too. Like sitting down, sorting through the things you enjoy doing and are good at doing in your life, and pursuing a career in those things. Or at least prioritizing your goals and coming up with a way to reach them.
You will grow and you will develop self-discipline, you will see progress in yourself. I would see military service being bad for people that have chemical instabilities due to genetics or other oddity. Otherwise enlisting is an excellent way of picking you up by your bootstraps and giving you a new hold on life.
Check out enlisting. It will broaden your horizons and give you a new perspective on life.
There are a million other things you can do that will accomplish these things. Enlisting is far from the only or best option.
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'twas a joke.
But then again, I made the joke because I still identified myself with the rest of the statement.
I see your point.
my father's entire family is military, including him, and i was a cadet for most of my youth.
The military is an alright suggestion except for the consideration of the stress it puts on everyone
My sister is getting married next month to a guy she has been dating for seven months, and he's going to Iraq in october for a six month tour
Understandably, an otherwise happy occasion has been marked by the overhanging tour of iraq
It can help you get your life together, sure, but realize the risks involved before you make the leap.
boot is not exactly therapy.
I can't pretend to be particularly informed about the military.
But Basic Training doesn't sound like the best choice for overweight, deeply self loathing guys with attitude problems.
Teefs what have you done
This here is why I will never join unless drafted
Bibble, that was worth a good laugh.
Pony, Good Advice.
Those closer to suicide then others, Often people will give you the advice "Just be yourself". I hate that advice because it doesn't do anyone any good. The intent behind that saying is "Just be comfortable". We all have different personalities and behavior styles depending on the environment we are in. I know I do not swear at all in front of my grandparents, and everything from my posture to how I say things changes.
You can create these different personalities to suit your situation, you just have to figure out what you want. That is something many people have a hard time in life. It's not easy and there are no books for it, but it is possible. You can do whatever you set your mind to. People have done it in the past and will do it in the future. The amount of roadblocks you encounter are related to your intelligence, your looks, and your finances.
In the end, you are defined by your actions and your wants. Figure out what you want, strive for it, and everything will fall into place.
Our personalities change depending on our wants and environment. All the power to change your image into whatever you want is there.
My friend is currently chilling in a studio in L.A. with M.I.A.
seph do you like me or hate me today
i figure you are like harvey dent
flipping a coin
Really? Is it that bad? I've actually been considering the military as an option.
both are lower ratios than Military --> Divorce and lingering depression
I've got one cousin, one brother in law, and three friends going in october
i'll let you know my own personal ratio next april.
you mean Army, Navy and Air Force all lumped in together? I am going to say that the first option is immensely more common than the second.
basic training will essentially destroy you if you are some out of shape guy with poor self-esteem and a shitty self-identity
it will shatter you
whether you can pick up the pieces and put together a decent fellow out of that is a question of your character
but i certainly don't think it's a healthy option
you could accomplish the same thing by developing an unhealthy addiction, fucking up your life, and going to rehab
that is also a stupid idea
Actually I am not ever hating on you
i may give you a hard time some days but it is not hate fueled
your points about the military are valid, it is a organization of people turned tools/weapons
actually boot camp is made to, over time, boost your confidence in yourself, your training and your physical ability level.
the military is not full metal jacket
As Pony pointed out, the self esteem and shit isn't going to be cured by the Military.
You have to change yourself. Your personality and appearance are not static. You're a goddamn human being, and you can grow and be a wonderful snowflake.
because you want to actively aid in the defense of your country from armed enemy forces and you are comfortable with killing people in the pursuit of doing so, even if only by associoation.
if you are doing it for any other reason besides that, it's the wrong one.
this is what my dad told me, and it's the reason i didn't join.
You will grow and you will develop self-discipline, you will see progress in yourself. I would see military service being bad for people that have chemical instabilities due to genetics or other oddity. Otherwise enlisting is an excellent way of picking you up by your bootstraps and giving you a new hold on life.
Check out enlisting. It will broaden your horizons and give you a new perspective on life.
my grandfather was the Head of Naval Research for a great many years
trust me, the army produces a lot of fucked up individuals. the navy and the air force, not so much. every person from my family that was in the military went on to a wife, kids and a stable career in the field of their desire.
my best friend and the valedictorian of my class went into the AFA about a month and a half ago. gotten a few letters from him - it was pretty rough at first, but he seems to be doing really well now.
Maybe in the offseason, when we're not at war.
Then it might be a good idea.
you have to work at it, BY YOURSELF, FOR YOURSELF
it is hard and it is tough and it is easy to slip and falter but it is worth it at the end
good friends will support you
but in the end it takes a mental adjustment and an awful lot of willpower
over time
whether a person survives that process is a question of the individual
some do
some don't
some kill themselves
but in the end, i think it's a less healthy option than say
just making better choices about your activities and your outlook on others
unless of course, war were declared
have to little? it will try to force you to get more, enough
so you can do what you need to do
follow orders
exactly
the military is not there to make you a better person
it is there to make you into the person your country needs you to be
a soldier
if you aren't looking to become a soldier, joining any military is a stupid idea
There are a million other things you can do that will accomplish these things. Enlisting is far from the only or best option.