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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    jigrah, please

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Wait, what is this "history" you speak of?
    Faricazy wrote: »
    This country has a rather illustrious history of the majority acting on their ideals, which others recognized as immoral and eventually overturned.

    If you're blind to history then I don't know what else to say to you.


    It was a joke. I was sarcastically agreeing with the guy who said I don't actually know history because I'm mormon. :|

    well, the mormon church does hide and bury it's history, but they can learn normal history just fine.
    Actually, most historical records are held at the church offices in Salt Lake and any Joe Schmo can go and look at them. It's less hiding and more not talking about it. Because really who is going to go to the trouble?

    yeah, but why not teach some of the full real history in those 3 hours of church i went to every sunday, and the many hours of youth group, or even in those hours of seminary. when i started studying on my own, my bishop scolded me for it and said it was best to not dig up the past and to just concern myself with having faith in the church leaders

    i mean, i really would have loved to have been told about how a prophet is on record at a congressional hearing swearing that he has never received revelation from god, and that he was not chosen by god and that the apostles were also not chosen through revelation, and more. instead they teach the opposite of that! and those are all very important points to know

    No church in its right mind would do something so foolish. That would only cause fear and distrust.

    exactly, and therein lies the joke about hiding history.

    we could also talk about how joseph smith gave the priesthood to black men and women, and the prophet after him took it away.

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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ObiFett wrote: »
    According to you, my cave is my religion and the outside is the "real world"

    According to me, your cave is this world and the outside is the truth I have learned through my religion.

    So, right back at ya.

    No offense intended.
    you mean you heard some things that you felt comfortable assuming or accepting the truth of because you agreed with them


    edit: or accepting

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  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Spectre-x wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    but all of this is useless masturbation anyways, anything i say won't convince you, because you have your eyes firmly shut, feeling righteous in your cause, and that what you are offering is fair.

    it's the same with my extended family, i was furious when they donated money to the yes on 8 campaign, but their church leaders sent down the command, and they, like a nice little flock, go and obey without thinking it out logically. but nothing i say will make them look at it with a fair even view, they are far too skewed.

    it makes me very very sad.

    That bolded phrase is an impossibility. :winky:

    I personally don't feel like my eyes are shut. I am very much a free thinker (Philosophy major) and welcome any viewpoints. I don't think I have been unreasonable or illogical in my statements so I'm not sure why you are comparing me to sheep, but whatev. Regardless, thanks for the convo and for not getting pissed off. Most people just get all angry when having any sort of debate.

    Of course you don't feel your eyes are shut. This is like Plato's cave. You don't know any better so you don't realise that what you see or think isn't at all rational or fair.

    And you're obviously not a free thinker because you twist and turn in your logic to desparately cling to your backwards beliefs.

    No offense intended.

    According to you, my cave is my religion and the outside is the "real world"

    According to me, your cave is this world and the outside is the truth I have learned through my religion.

    So, right back at ya.

    No offense intended.

    Religion is not a cave. Religion is in the cave with you.

    You are refusing to see MORE than just your religion. You do not need to abandon your religion to be open minded, you just need to be willing to see that there are other things that have the possibility of being true.



    You can't call yourself open minded if you are in actuality closed off to the existence of an outside truth.

    If God is eternal, he created us, and put us here for a reason, then all truth can be discovered or confirmed through Him. Its his game, afterall. So explain what you mean by "outside truth". Cuz thats not specific enough for me to fully follow.

    And what if God isn't eternal?

    The moment that you declare your "faith" to be "truth" you are closing your mind.

    You CAN believe something without insisting to know it.

    Evander on
  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    But it's a terrible example and unrealistic and thus you are dumb

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  • Little JimLittle Jim __BANNED USERS
    edited February 2009
    Mysst wrote: »
    jigrah, please

    heh heh heh

    heh

    ugh

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    bel i thought you were gonna read comics

    i am intermittently, my attention span is really low right now. my body is saying it is tired, but my mind won't let me sleep, it is annoying.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Tossrock wrote: »
    You can't learn any truth through religious practice

    Isn't that the whole point? Having faith?

    What about the truth that you should love and accept others?
    The truth that it is best to forgive and turn the other cheek?
    The truth that all things are temporary?
    That suffering could be overcome with love?

    Or are you talking about a different definition of truth?

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    bel i thought you were gonna read comics

    i am intermittently, my attention span is really low right now. my body is saying it is tired, but my mind won't let me sleep, it is annoying.

    i believe my advice in this situation is clear

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    bel i thought you were gonna read comics

    i am intermittently, my attention span is really low right now. my body is saying it is tired, but my mind won't let me sleep, it is annoying.

    Bel what are you reading now

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    My favorite gay republican is Bob Allen, the representative from Florida who tried to give a police officer a blowjob

    Later, when asked why he did it, Allen said that fear made him do it.

    Fear of black people, who apparently were "all over the place".

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    Wow. It would be perfectly possible for society to function, and the birth rate could be maintained in any number of ways.

    Two women is not the same as a man and a woman.

    How enormously fucking insightful.

    How you made the jump from "not equal qualitatively" to "not equitable" is way fucking beyond me.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    Funny thing about homosexuality; it doesn't seem to be proportional to one's desire to have children.

    I think if the world were chiefly homosexual, adaptations like large scale sperm banks and adoption centers would take place. The only change between then and now would be having children would be a much more conscious decision. No more 'mistakes' and births born of rape would all but disappear.

    Javen on
  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    bel i thought you were gonna read comics

    i am intermittently, my attention span is really low right now. my body is saying it is tired, but my mind won't let me sleep, it is annoying.

    Bel what are you reading now

    just started runaways

    also tehe ori

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  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Really, why government has any control over marriage is beyond me.

    Because it's a useful secular institution as well. We let people perform the religious ceremonies because it's their right to free exercise.

    Then they get confused, thinking we're sanctioning their religious practices, and start demanding control of the secular institution, and then I have to explain the Establishment Clause again.

    Yup. A religious marriage has no actual legal standing. You have to have a legal marriage liscence to get married, and you don't need an elaborate ceremony to get one.



    The great irony of all of this is that Religions are actually free to perform Gay Marriages. There are liberal churches out there which will marry gay couples, and no amount of legislation could prevent that. All that the legislation has done is prevented human beings from having equal rights (before you respond, butters, sitting at the front of a bus isn't a civil right either, but that's the term we use) with absolutely NOTHING done to actually protect the word.

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    bel i thought you were gonna read comics

    i am intermittently, my attention span is really low right now. my body is saying it is tired, but my mind won't let me sleep, it is annoying.

    i believe my advice in this situation is clear
    you gotta draw it out so that you pass out from it.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Spectre-x wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    but all of this is useless masturbation anyways, anything i say won't convince you, because you have your eyes firmly shut, feeling righteous in your cause, and that what you are offering is fair.

    it's the same with my extended family, i was furious when they donated money to the yes on 8 campaign, but their church leaders sent down the command, and they, like a nice little flock, go and obey without thinking it out logically. but nothing i say will make them look at it with a fair even view, they are far too skewed.

    it makes me very very sad.

    That bolded phrase is an impossibility. :winky:

    I personally don't feel like my eyes are shut. I am very much a free thinker (Philosophy major) and welcome any viewpoints. I don't think I have been unreasonable or illogical in my statements so I'm not sure why you are comparing me to sheep, but whatev. Regardless, thanks for the convo and for not getting pissed off. Most people just get all angry when having any sort of debate.

    Of course you don't feel your eyes are shut. This is like Plato's cave. You don't know any better so you don't realise that what you see or think isn't at all rational or fair.

    And you're obviously not a free thinker because you twist and turn in your logic to desparately cling to your backwards beliefs.

    No offense intended.

    According to you, my cave is my religion and the outside is the "real world"

    According to me, your cave is this world and the outside is the truth I have learned through my religion.

    So, right back at ya.

    No offense intended.

    Religion is not a cave. Religion is in the cave with you.

    You are refusing to see MORE than just your religion. You do not need to abandon your religion to be open minded, you just need to be willing to see that there are other things that have the possibility of being true.



    You can't call yourself open minded if you are in actuality closed off to the existence of an outside truth.

    If God is eternal, he created us, and put us here for a reason, then all truth can be discovered or confirmed through Him. Its his game, afterall. So explain what you mean by "outside truth". Cuz thats not specific enough for me to fully follow.

    Or

    Maybe

    "He" put us here and endowed us with reason and compassion because we were meant to use it to examine the universe instead of burying our noses in one particular gospel and learning from nothing outside of a church setting.



    Fucking homotextuals.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    bel i thought you were gonna read comics

    i am intermittently, my attention span is really low right now. my body is saying it is tired, but my mind won't let me sleep, it is annoying.

    Bel what are you reading now

    just started runaways

    also tehe ori

    The first run is pretty good (Volumes 1-4, I think, of the digests or like 16 issues)

    After that I stopped being able to care but the first arc of the relaunch was pretty cool with it's "teen hero support group"

    Me Too! on
  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    My favorite gay republican is Bob Allen, the representative from Florida who tried to give a police officer a blowjob

    Later, when asked why he did it, Allen said that fear made him do it.

    Fear of black people, who apparently were "all over the place".

    Man, I know that when I have to drive through inner city Baltimore I'm always thinking to myself "I hope a cop shows up, if things start to get bad, so I can blow him."

    Evander on
  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    My favorite gay republican is Bob Allen, the representative from Florida who tried to give a police officer a blowjob

    Later, when asked why he did it, Allen said that fear made him do it.

    Fear of black people, who apparently were "all over the place".

    Man, I know that when I have to drive through inner city Baltimore I'm always thinking to myself "I hope a cop shows up, if things start to get bad, so I can blow him."
    The best part is that Allen offered to pay the cop 20 bucks.

    A blowjob AND cash from a state representative? Shit, now that's a bargain.

    Clint Eastwood on
  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dubh wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

    What if 100% of the population was sterile.

    THAT would be a serious issue.

    Evander on
  • babyeatingjesusbabyeatingjesus Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

    What if 100% of the population was sterile.

    THAT would be a serious issue.
    What if it was only the women??

    Then we'd have to have gay marriage!

    wait...

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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

    they sure were prompt in getting to the voting booths do you get me

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  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    My favorite gay republican is Bob Allen, the representative from Florida who tried to give a police officer a blowjob

    Later, when asked why he did it, Allen said that fear made him do it.

    Fear of black people, who apparently were "all over the place".

    Man, I know that when I have to drive through inner city Baltimore I'm always thinking to myself "I hope a cop shows up, if things start to get bad, so I can blow him."
    The best part is that Allen offered to pay the cop 20 bucks.

    A blowjob AND cash from a state representative? Shit, now that's a bargain.

    Well, yeah.

    Allen was practicing a new form of anti-prostitution, where you pay some one to get them off.

    Evander on
  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

    What were you seriously hoping for?

    Fire Truck on
  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dubh wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

    My point is that straight couples are more valuable to society then gay couples. However I am starting to think that a small percentage of gay couples could have lots of benefits to society. Mostly for the adoption issue. People want their own blood to continue, so they have kids, gay couples don't have this option as readilly available as straight couples. That puts on high demands on adoption which would help out a lot.

    Jigrah on
    jigrah please. pass the pipe
    Ruckus wrote: »
    Jigrah please. take my hand.
    Butters wrote: »
    Jigrah please! You'll wake the children
    Mysst wrote: »
    jigrah, please, we won't have this moment again.
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Jigrah, please, I have a headache
    Jigrah, please. Just the tip, I promise.
    jigrah please let me have your babies
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I'm going to name my next global pestilence "Jigrah"
    Mysst wrote: »
    jigrah, please don't stop
    Tasteticle wrote: »
    jigrah please invite me next time you watch robotech.
    Druhim wrote:
    Jigrah, please, our dinner is getting cold
    Well Jigrah, maybe if you said please.


  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    No one is quoting me

    that must mean I'm right.

    I'm going to get pizza to celebrate.

    Javen on
  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Tossrock wrote: »
    You can't learn any truth through religious practice

    Isn't that the whole point? Having faith?

    What about the truth that you should love and accept others?
    The truth that it is best to forgive and turn the other cheek?
    The truth that all things are temporary?
    That suffering could be overcome with love?

    Or are you talking about a different definition of truth?

    I am talking about truth in the sense of, you know, things that are quantifiably correct. What you've listed are beliefs. Noble beliefs, but you can't prove that they are true in the way that you can prove an object accelerates at 9.8 meters per second per second under the influence of Earth's gravity.

    If you're deriving truth from religion, you're worshiping a textbook.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    My favorite gay republican is Bob Allen, the representative from Florida who tried to give a police officer a blowjob

    Later, when asked why he did it, Allen said that fear made him do it.

    Fear of black people, who apparently were "all over the place".

    Man, I know that when I have to drive through inner city Baltimore I'm always thinking to myself "I hope a cop shows up, if things start to get bad, so I can blow him."
    The best part is that Allen offered to pay the cop 20 bucks.

    A blowjob AND cash from a state representative? Shit, now that's a bargain.

    Well, yeah.

    Allen was practicing a new form of anti-prostitution, where you pay some one to get them off.
    "Lately I've been charging Brenna for sex."

    "Oh yeah? How's that going?"

    "I'm flat fucking broke"

    Clint Eastwood on
  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

    What were you seriously hoping for?

    discussion about food? maybe starship troopers

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

    What were you seriously hoping for?

    from his previous track record?

    locked in four pages

    MrMonroe on
  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

    What were you seriously hoping for?

    from his previous track record?

    locked in four pages

    man when you make threads some are bound to crash and burn

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  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

    My point is that straight couples are more valuable to society then gay couples. However I am starting to think that a small percentage of gay couples could have lots of benefits to society. Mostly for the adoption issue. People want their own blood to continue, so they have kids, gay couples don't have this option as readilly available as straight couples. That puts on high demands on adoption which would help out a lot.

    Jigrah, please.

    As long as there is no HARM in gay marriage, it should be allowed.

    Debating HOW useful it is, is beyond the point.

    Evander on
  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    holy shit that jigrah post is weapons grade crazy

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

    My point is that straight couples are more valuable to society then gay couples. However I am starting to think that a small percentage of gay couples could have lots of benefits to society. Mostly for the adoption issue. People want their own blood to continue, so they have kids, gay couples don't have this option as readilly available as straight couples. That puts on high demands on adoption which would help out a lot.

    This is flat out not true. As I said, there has yet to be correlation between sexual preference and desire to raise children.

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  • PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    Phonehand wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
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    Wait, what is this "history" you speak of?
    Faricazy wrote: »
    This country has a rather illustrious history of the majority acting on their ideals, which others recognized as immoral and eventually overturned.

    If you're blind to history then I don't know what else to say to you.


    It was a joke. I was sarcastically agreeing with the guy who said I don't actually know history because I'm mormon. :|

    well, the mormon church does hide and bury it's history, but they can learn normal history just fine.
    Actually, most historical records are held at the church offices in Salt Lake and any Joe Schmo can go and look at them. It's less hiding and more not talking about it. Because really who is going to go to the trouble?

    yeah, but why not teach some of the full real history in those 3 hours of church i went to every sunday, and the many hours of youth group, or even in those hours of seminary. when i started studying on my own, my bishop scolded me for it and said it was best to not dig up the past and to just concern myself with having faith in the church leaders

    i mean, i really would have loved to have been told about how a prophet is on record at a congressional hearing swearing that he has never received revelation from god, and that he was not chosen by god and that the apostles were also not chosen through revelation, and more. instead they teach the opposite of that! and those are all very important points to know

    No church in its right mind would do something so foolish. That would only cause fear and distrust.

    exactly, and therein lies the joke about hiding history.

    we could also talk about how joseph smith gave the priesthood to black men and women, and the prophet after him took it away.

    It's really more just a lack of desire by people to research and understand. Which is fine. They are happy people. Whatever.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
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    Could our society survive if it was a complete 100% gay couple population?

    Yes.

    Gay people aren't infertile. They could still conceive children, either through arranged agreements or through artificial means.

    But are you suggesting that gay is contagious? That allowing gay marriage means that everyone would become Gay?

    If it was 100% gay population the birth rate would be tremendously low. Society would not function, it's possible but just no.

    I was using the 100% to show value to society, not that it is contagious but to show they are not the same thing. People like to think they are, but they really are not.

    So you use a highly improbably example to prove your point. That makes sense. Here's another one: "What if 100% of the straight population decided they didn't want to have babies?"

    My point is that straight couples are more valuable to society then gay couples. However I am starting to think that a small percentage of gay couples could have lots of benefits to society. Mostly for the adoption issue. People want their own blood to continue, so they have kids, gay couples don't have this option as readilly available as straight couples. That puts on high demands on adoption which would help out a lot.

    No. no they're not you twit.

    That's our point.

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    You know guys this thread really didn't go in the direction I wanted

    What were you seriously hoping for?

    discussion about food? maybe starship troopers
    EVERYONE FIGHTS

    NO ONE QUITS

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