Note that the Hyperion qvq lost that day was worth many times over all those t1 frigs...
Did anyone get podded?
Thing that scares me most about PvP is 20 mil isk of implants >_>
Hahahahahaaha. Just wait until you have close to a billion isk worth of circuits in your head. (I have nearly a billion isk worth of implants and hardwirings)
Note that the Hyperion qvq lost that day was worth many times over all those t1 frigs...
Did anyone get podded?
Thing that scares me most about PvP is 20 mil isk of implants >_>
Hahahahahaaha. Just wait until you have close to a billion isk worth of circuits in your head. (I have nearly a billion isk worth of implants and hardwirings)
In one of your heads. I heard the other was lacking hard wiring.
Really though clone jumping out of implants for pvp is what I wanted to post . . . but I forgot what I was going to say and instead made a flaccid penis joke.
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So I'm a high SP minmatar pilot and I everyone says I should train Amarr.
you should amarr currently is the king of the following:
Dreads
Fleet BS
Delve Ratting BS
RRBS
HAC Snipers
Funny, when I was Amarr people laughed at me and told me to use Caldari or Minmatar ships.
On another note, when I saw the updated exploration stuff, I almost resubbed. Until I realized that the only way to make any profit on it would be to bring a battleship as everything would be super-guarded anyway, so it was just fancy ratting.
I've love if you could make a profit without needing heavy firepower through exploration. Not a LOT of profit, but enough to break even would be neat.
The Apoc range bonus buff combined with the Tracking Computer nerf really changed what was strong for fleet BS. The 5th turret for the zealot really reinforced it as the best hac sniper.
Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
Do what? With GoonFleet fleet fits, the Rokh is far superior to the Apoc or the Abbadon. The Apoc does 12 more DPS, has 40% less tank, and shoots for less range. The Abbadon does a lot of DPS, but it can't do it past 150k, and still has 20-30% less tank than the Rokh.
I don't fly a sniper to POS shot, so yay for the Geddon, it's good at POS shots.
This is coming from someone with characters that have Caldari BS 5 and Amarr BS 5. Amarr BS's are great, but the Rokh is hands down the best sniper we currently deploy.
Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
Do what? With GoonFleet fleet fits, the Rokh is far superior to the Apoc or the Abbadon. The Apoc does 12 more DPS, has 40% less tank, and shoots for less range. The Abbadon does a lot of DPS, but it can't do it past 150k, and still has 20-30% less tank than the Rokh.
I don't fly a sniper to POS shot, so yay for the Geddon, it's good at POS shots.
This is coming from someone with characters that have Caldari BS 5 and Amarr BS 5. Amarr BS's are great, but the Rokh is hands down the best sniper we currently deploy.
Rohks are also a heck of a lot more expensive than geddons so that is a bit of ahit against them. (does GS have fleet reimbursement for Rohks?)
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
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Yes, we reimburse sniper Rokhs.
Yes, the Rokh is more expensive. Especially if you fit it right and 3x CDFE rig it. My Rokh's still cost me ~70m even after reimbursement. That's just the price you pay for flying the brick of a tank that is the Rokh. I've also only lost two...in a year, and it's not for lack of fighting.
Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
Do what? With GoonFleet fleet fits, the Rokh is far superior to the Apoc or the Abbadon. The Apoc does 12 more DPS, has 40% less tank, and shoots for less range. The Abbadon does a lot of DPS, but it can't do it past 150k, and still has 20-30% less tank than the Rokh.
I consider the Apoc better as it does more dps ( esp once you move up to 2 tach + locus rigs ), has enough range for all current engagements and costs less to replace. Yes it has a smaller tank but I consider that to not be enough to make it the best.
For fleet work they are considered the worst, and by a fair margin.
For example a T1 gunned apoc has better range, dps, tracking, EHP than a T2 gunned tempest.
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Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
Do what? With GoonFleet fleet fits, the Rokh is far superior to the Apoc or the Abbadon. The Apoc does 12 more DPS, has 40% less tank, and shoots for less range. The Abbadon does a lot of DPS, but it can't do it past 150k, and still has 20-30% less tank than the Rokh.
I consider the Apoc better as it does more dps ( esp once you move up to 2 tach + locus rigs ), has enough range for all current engagements and costs less to replace. Yes it has a smaller tank but I consider that to not be enough to make it the best.
It does 12 more DPS. 12. Whole. DPS.
And when was the last time you were in an engagement against Kenny? We regularly fight them at > 160k these days. Yah, the Apoc is cheap to replace, but the tank of the Rokh basically means you rarely replace it. Again, I've replaced two, in a year. That makes the Rokh pretty cheap to fly over an extended period of time.
Fuck Amarr, I still argue that Caldari has the best battleships. You're not stuck with using "a laser ship with a little better armor/grid/cpu". With Caldari BS5, you get an ECM beast, Ratting Raven, and the best sniper in the game. So you can esscential cover all your basis for fleet engagements. Support, Torp POS shooter, Sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
Do what? With GoonFleet fleet fits, the Rokh is far superior to the Apoc or the Abbadon. The Apoc does 12 more DPS, has 40% less tank, and shoots for less range. The Abbadon does a lot of DPS, but it can't do it past 150k, and still has 20-30% less tank than the Rokh.
I consider the Apoc better as it does more dps ( esp once you move up to 2 tach + locus rigs ), has enough range for all current engagements and costs less to replace. Yes it has a smaller tank but I consider that to not be enough to make it the best.
It does 12 more DPS. 12. Whole. DPS.
And when was the last time you were in an engagement against Kenny? We regularly fight them at > 160k these days. Yah, the Apoc is cheap to replace, but the tank of the Rokh basically means you rarely replace it. Again, I've replaced two, in a year. That makes the Rokh pretty cheap to fly over an extended period of time.
I get the difference of 28dps between the apoc and rokh when you use the 3x Mega beams on the apoc. Plus with triple energy locus rigs you stay in optimal all the way out to 183km which is better than the 350mm rokh.
Yeah rokh's get shot at less often, but that is doesn't mean an apoc pilot is always going to die. That all depends on an whole other set of factors ( name, popularity, how soon he warps when told to etc ).
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Also I forgot to mention amarr don't need to reload which currently is broken in high lag situations, which still makes it the best ( as in best for the fleet, not you ).
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So, I'm trying to remember why I picked Minmatar, anyone want to tell me?
I'm assuming this was back when they still ruled the small gang warfare portion of the game. Back before CCP fixed all the ludicrous speed problems.
I mean, when I was playing 2 years ago, Amarr were considered the weakest, I still remember Goumindong's laundry list posts of "Why Amarr are broken".
Exactly my point.
Although after reading the supplementary stories on the EVE website I love the Minmatar now. Rebelling slaves with a tribal culture? I likes it.
Anyway until I can use my covops and exploration content to make small amounts of money without battleships or ratting in 0.0 I'm staying away. I'm so fucking sick of ratting.
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Minmatar have good sub-BS ships. The covops is still considered on of the best, the Vagabond is an awesome solo or small gang HAC. I'm told the Sleipnir is an amazing command ship (currently training for it). The speed nerf hurt a lot of Minmatar stuff but I still like my Rapier.
Minmatar have good sub-BS ships. The covops is still considered on of the best, the Vagabond is an awesome solo or small gang HAC. I'm told the Sleipnir is an amazing command ship (currently training for it). The speed nerf hurt a lot of Minmatar stuff but I still like my Rapier.
I want a rapier so hard, but that's such a tremendous amount of uninsurable isk.
Minmatar have good sub-BS ships. The covops is still considered on of the best, the Vagabond is an awesome solo or small gang HAC. I'm told the Sleipnir is an amazing command ship (currently training for it). The speed nerf hurt a lot of Minmatar stuff but I still like my Rapier.
I want a rapier so hard, but that's such a tremendous amount of uninsurable isk.
It's the price you pay for flying a fun ship. They aren't that expensive to fit.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
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The Rapier is meh now. The fun Minmatar ships are the Vagabond and the Broadsword. The Broadsword is especially awesome in a duo/trio sort of small gang gate camp or ratter hunting.
Warping in on a ratter with a Broadsword and tossing up your bubble is always good for laughs.
Yes, the Rokh is more expensive. Especially if you fit it right and 3x CDFE rig it. My Rokh's still cost me ~70m even after reimbursement. That's just the price you pay for flying the brick of a tank that is the Rokh. I've also only lost two...in a year, and it's not for lack of fighting.
I cross-trained Amarr from the Rokh simply to get ammoless weapons. The rokh chews through a retarded amount of ammo, even when you're not pos shooting. It simply became too much of a pain to find new ammo every single day that I spent in a hostile frontline system.
So, I'm trying to remember why I picked Minmatar, anyone want to tell me?
I'm assuming this was back when they still ruled the small gang warfare portion of the game. Back before CCP fixed all the ludicrous speed problems.
I mean, when I was playing 2 years ago, Amarr were considered the weakest, I still remember Goumindong's laundry list posts of "Why Amarr are broken".
Exactly my point.
Although after reading the supplementary stories on the EVE website I love the Minmatar now. Rebelling slaves with a tribal culture? I likes it.
Anyway until I can use my covops and exploration content to make small amounts of money without battleships or ratting in 0.0 I'm staying away. I'm so fucking sick of ratting.
I'm taking a break from ratting myself as well. I made a lot of money doing it, but I'm flat broke again and have resorted to lvl 1 missions to grind faction until I can join the faction wars. Just because I want to see what that offers.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Yes, the Rokh is more expensive. Especially if you fit it right and 3x CDFE rig it. My Rokh's still cost me ~70m even after reimbursement. That's just the price you pay for flying the brick of a tank that is the Rokh. I've also only lost two...in a year, and it's not for lack of fighting.
I cross-trained Amarr from the Rokh simply to get ammoless weapons. The rokh chews through a retarded amount of ammo, even when you're not pos shooting. It simply became too much of a pain to find new ammo every single day that I spent in a hostile frontline system.
Yah, my capital pilot is Amarr, so I am down with the ammoless gun thing. I just carrier jump ammo in to myself, which is an advantage not everyone has.
So, I'm trying to remember why I picked Minmatar, anyone want to tell me?
I'm assuming this was back when they still ruled the small gang warfare portion of the game. Back before CCP fixed all the ludicrous speed problems.
I mean, when I was playing 2 years ago, Amarr were considered the weakest, I still remember Goumindong's laundry list posts of "Why Amarr are broken".
Exactly my point.
Although after reading the supplementary stories on the EVE website I love the Minmatar now. Rebelling slaves with a tribal culture? I likes it.
Anyway until I can use my covops and exploration content to make small amounts of money without battleships or ratting in 0.0 I'm staying away. I'm so fucking sick of ratting.
I'm taking a break from ratting myself as well. I made a lot of money doing it, but I'm flat broke again and have resorted to lvl 1 missions to grind faction until I can join the faction wars. Just because I want to see what that offers.
I recommend that you buy tags to gain standings. With tags it only takes a day or two to get into a militia. The faction war has a lot of great pvp, but there is no end game. There is no way to "win" the war so you are basically throwing away isk to no gain.
Every once in awhile I miss this game. But then I remember all i did was fly my t2 ships around without doing anything. Someone sell me on playing again.
Every once in awhile I miss this game. But then I remember all i did was fly my t2 ships around without doing anything. Someone sell me on playing again.
So, I'm trying to remember why I picked Minmatar, anyone want to tell me?
I'm assuming this was back when they still ruled the small gang warfare portion of the game. Back before CCP fixed all the ludicrous speed problems.
I mean, when I was playing 2 years ago, Amarr were considered the weakest, I still remember Goumindong's laundry list posts of "Why Amarr are broken".
Exactly my point.
Although after reading the supplementary stories on the EVE website I love the Minmatar now. Rebelling slaves with a tribal culture? I likes it.
Anyway until I can use my covops and exploration content to make small amounts of money without battleships or ratting in 0.0 I'm staying away. I'm so fucking sick of ratting.
I'm taking a break from ratting myself as well. I made a lot of money doing it, but I'm flat broke again and have resorted to lvl 1 missions to grind faction until I can join the faction wars. Just because I want to see what that offers.
I recommend that you buy tags to gain standings. With tags it only takes a day or two to get into a militia. The faction war has a lot of great pvp, but there is no end game. There is no way to "win" the war so you are basically throwing away isk to no gain.
Buy tags? I vaguely remember you used to be able to sell tags to concord, is that what you're talking about?
Buy tags? I vaguely remember you used to be able to sell tags to concord, is that what you're talking about?
You can hand in tags at Data Centers. Either you can kill the rats for the tags, or buy the them off of the market in Jita. If you are really serious about joining the war then look for a FW corp to join. You don't need personal standing to get in, as long as your corp has the required standing.
Ahhh, I kind of remember that now. I don't know if I'm serious about it just yet, you only need a .5 standing to get in anyway and I'm almost there. Running missions is boring sure, but since I'm so over skilled for lvl 1's it's full on easy mode, and it's a nice chance from ratting in 0.0. Though local and corp chat is fucking laughable.
Some dude last night was all, "I just realized how profitable salvaging could be."
Every once in awhile I miss this game. But then I remember all i did was fly my t2 ships around without doing anything. Someone sell me on playing again.
you can now fly around in T3!!!!!!!!!!!
I've said it before, but T3 to me is one of the coolest innovations in a space MMO. There are literally 12500 different strategic cruisers, 3125 for each faction, and each, while looking similar, will have different models. It's like LEGO in space, only more awesome.
Now all that's left is to train for a year to get all the necessary skills.
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Every once in awhile I miss this game. But then I remember all i did was fly my t2 ships around without doing anything. Someone sell me on playing again.
you can now fly around in T3!!!!!!!!!!!
I've said it before, but T3 to me is one of the coolest innovations in a space MMO. There are literally 12500 different strategic cruisers, 3125 for each faction, and each, while looking similar, will have different models. It's like LEGO in space, only more awesome.
Now all that's left is to train for a year to get all the necessary skills.
And thirty seconds to lose the first one.
I do think the mix and match thing is neat though.
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Jump clones, man! Jump clones!
I was a part of that gallente fleet that the FC fleet warped into a smartbomb trap. I lost a fully fitted rook and a few hundred mil in implants, I was not amused.
Hahahahahaaha. Just wait until you have close to a billion isk worth of circuits in your head. (I have nearly a billion isk worth of implants and hardwirings)
Really though clone jumping out of implants for pvp is what I wanted to post . . . but I forgot what I was going to say and instead made a flaccid penis joke.
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The Apoc range bonus buff combined with the Tracking Computer nerf really changed what was strong for fleet BS. The 5th turret for the zealot really reinforced it as the best hac sniper.
Sorry the abaddon / apoc are way better snipers than the rokh for the current engagement distances, and the geddon is by far the best POS shooting ship.
Do what? With GoonFleet fleet fits, the Rokh is far superior to the Apoc or the Abbadon. The Apoc does 12 more DPS, has 40% less tank, and shoots for less range. The Abbadon does a lot of DPS, but it can't do it past 150k, and still has 20-30% less tank than the Rokh.
I don't fly a sniper to POS shot, so yay for the Geddon, it's good at POS shots.
This is coming from someone with characters that have Caldari BS 5 and Amarr BS 5. Amarr BS's are great, but the Rokh is hands down the best sniper we currently deploy.
Rohks are also a heck of a lot more expensive than geddons so that is a bit of ahit against them. (does GS have fleet reimbursement for Rohks?)
Yes, the Rokh is more expensive. Especially if you fit it right and 3x CDFE rig it. My Rokh's still cost me ~70m even after reimbursement. That's just the price you pay for flying the brick of a tank that is the Rokh. I've also only lost two...in a year, and it's not for lack of fighting.
it's pretty hard to lose one, unless your name is dbrb, and you still get to see everything going on.
my carrier's insurance is about to run out though, i need to lose it soon
I consider the Apoc better as it does more dps ( esp once you move up to 2 tach + locus rigs ), has enough range for all current engagements and costs less to replace. Yes it has a smaller tank but I consider that to not be enough to make it the best.
For fleet work they are considered the worst, and by a fair margin.
For example a T1 gunned apoc has better range, dps, tracking, EHP than a T2 gunned tempest.
It does 12 more DPS. 12. Whole. DPS.
And when was the last time you were in an engagement against Kenny? We regularly fight them at > 160k these days. Yah, the Apoc is cheap to replace, but the tank of the Rokh basically means you rarely replace it. Again, I've replaced two, in a year. That makes the Rokh pretty cheap to fly over an extended period of time.
I get the difference of 28dps between the apoc and rokh when you use the 3x Mega beams on the apoc. Plus with triple energy locus rigs you stay in optimal all the way out to 183km which is better than the 350mm rokh.
Yeah rokh's get shot at less often, but that is doesn't mean an apoc pilot is always going to die. That all depends on an whole other set of factors ( name, popularity, how soon he warps when told to etc ).
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Also I forgot to mention amarr don't need to reload which currently is broken in high lag situations, which still makes it the best ( as in best for the fleet, not you ).
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I'm assuming this was back when they still ruled the small gang warfare portion of the game. Back before CCP fixed all the ludicrous speed problems.
I mean, when I was playing 2 years ago, Amarr were considered the weakest, I still remember Goumindong's laundry list posts of "Why Amarr are broken".
Exactly my point.
Although after reading the supplementary stories on the EVE website I love the Minmatar now. Rebelling slaves with a tribal culture? I likes it.
Anyway until I can use my covops and exploration content to make small amounts of money without battleships or ratting in 0.0 I'm staying away. I'm so fucking sick of ratting.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I want a rapier so hard, but that's such a tremendous amount of uninsurable isk.
It's the price you pay for flying a fun ship. They aren't that expensive to fit.
Warping in on a ratter with a Broadsword and tossing up your bubble is always good for laughs.
I'm taking a break from ratting myself as well. I made a lot of money doing it, but I'm flat broke again and have resorted to lvl 1 missions to grind faction until I can join the faction wars. Just because I want to see what that offers.
Yah, my capital pilot is Amarr, so I am down with the ammoless gun thing. I just carrier jump ammo in to myself, which is an advantage not everyone has.
I recommend that you buy tags to gain standings. With tags it only takes a day or two to get into a militia. The faction war has a lot of great pvp, but there is no end game. There is no way to "win" the war so you are basically throwing away isk to no gain.
you can now fly around in T3!!!!!!!!!!!
Buy tags? I vaguely remember you used to be able to sell tags to concord, is that what you're talking about?
Some dude last night was all, "I just realized how profitable salvaging could be."
I've said it before, but T3 to me is one of the coolest innovations in a space MMO. There are literally 12500 different strategic cruisers, 3125 for each faction, and each, while looking similar, will have different models. It's like LEGO in space, only more awesome.
Now all that's left is to train for a year to get all the necessary skills.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
And thirty seconds to lose the first one.
I do think the mix and match thing is neat though.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.