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[Canadian Politics]: New Liberal Cabinet Sworn In
KetBra
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Welcome to the New and Improved Canadian Politics Thread! (This time with 100% more cowboys!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLXQltR7vUQ
For the OP I thought I would clear up how exactly our system works, and how it is different from the American one.
The first thing you have to know, is that we only elect cowboys. Here are our current top three gunslingers:
Stephen "Steve" Harper
Current Prime Minister and Grand Sherriff of Canada, this cow-poke is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. He also really likes vests. And cats.
Tom "The Grizzly" Mulcair
This fellow is the leader of the New Democratic Party, and leader of the Official Opposition. He's also in a bit of a bind, because he's pretty consistently polling in third place.
That is due to this rogue, Justin "the son of" Trudeau:
Expert pancake flipper, and Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. He claimed the leadership of the Liberal Party in the traditional way, by trial by combat.
There's also the BQ, and the Greens, but they technically don't have party status! Sorry Elizabeth May! You'll never get anywhere in politics without a cowboy hat!
Also apparently Forces et Démocratie is a party with seats in the House. Who knew!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLXQltR7vUQFor the OP I thought I would clear up how exactly our system works, and how it is different from the American one.
The first thing you have to know, is that we only elect cowboys. Here are our current top three gunslingers:
Stephen "Steve" Harper
Current Prime Minister and Grand Sherriff of Canada, this cow-poke is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. He also really likes vests. And cats.
Tom "The Grizzly" Mulcair
This fellow is the leader of the New Democratic Party, and leader of the Official Opposition. He's also in a bit of a bind, because he's pretty consistently polling in third place.
That is due to this rogue, Justin "the son of" Trudeau:
Expert pancake flipper, and Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. He claimed the leadership of the Liberal Party in the traditional way, by trial by combat.
There's also the BQ, and the Greens, but they technically don't have party status! Sorry Elizabeth May! You'll never get anywhere in politics without a cowboy hat!
Also apparently Forces et Démocratie is a party with seats in the House. Who knew!
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Basically a former Bloc MP who had resigned over an argument with the new leader and a former NDP MP who was tired of being relevant got together and formed a new party. This party already equals the Green Party and the Bloc Québécois in representation
There's something special about someone splintering off from the BQ to form another Quebec nationalist party.
Also, looking at the two members, I like to think they have an unwritten rule about all of their members being named Jean-Francois.
And now I just pictured Harper with a beard *shudder*
I never finish anyth
Yeah, despite being a member, I'm not holding out a lot of hope for the Greens this election. Don't tell the nice people who send me all those e-mails. I do hope May wins her seat again.
I would expect the Greens to hold their two seats. May, at the very least should keep hers, as she has been a fantastic MP.
I never even hear people talk about the NDP out here. It's all Cons or Liberal.
Also, the legalizing Marijuana thing is going to be a lot more popular than Harper thinks. Most non-consumers I know are still pro legalization because at this point most people have tried it at some point and even if they did not enjoy the experience most did not go on a drug fueled crime spree.
Just ate too many oreos and watched simpsons reruns.
I just think it's funny that it's required that all the party leaders show up in their cowboy garb
I just checked the pictures again and tried to make up a mental story for each.
"Ok, so what should I do at this stampede thing?"
"Well sir, try to look cowboyish by putting on this hat and..."
Harper aide: "...this leather vest and striking a pose for the cameras."
Mulclair aide: "...this stampede t-shirt and talking about the issues in a manly way."
Trudeau aide "...this dress shirt and flipping some pancakes."
"Stephen Harper is a strong leader we need, he's so strong, he managed to fix the Canadian Economy even with all the debt and unfair taxes. And who left that debt, and who destroyed the economy in the first place? Pierre Trudeau. Don't make the same mistake twice"
It was almost art.
I wish I could make Conservative adds as a living.
"Remember the robocall scandal? That's right, even machines are rooting for Stephen Harper. And machines are like, super smart. Are you smart? Then vote for Stephen Harper, or the machines will rise and destroy mankind!"
That's not a Conservative ad. This is a Conservative ad.
"Remember the Robocall scandal? That's when the Liberals used robots to call people in Montreal and get Trudeau elected. And you know who lives in Montreal? Sovereignists who want to destroy Canada. That's the same goal the Jihadists have. And all this is funded using your tax money, like Pierre Trudeau did."
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"So after we killed the intrusive big-government census, we went eliminated all privacy laws and hired Conservative party interns to dig through your personal data without your knowledge and consent, and managed to discover some anecdotal evidence that our policies work, and lots of data proving they don't but we won't be releasing those because they're proprietary Conservative data and we'll sue anyone who talks about it. More importantly, all your personal banking information has been passed to the Conservative Party reelection fund, and your voting intentions have been extrapolated and used to plan road works and closures on election day. Oh, and our nation is now in massive deficit because of the cost of hiring those interns. What, you don't like massive government deficits and loss of privacy? See, big government doesn't work, that's why you have to keep the Liberals out of power and keep us slashing government services like the census!"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1513457-bill-c-51.html
Seriously? That's pretty fucking low.
Look, I hate pretty much anything to do with the military. I actually get uncomfortable whenever I see a serviceperson. But, I know that it's not my place to try to push my personal philosophy.
I say this because even though I don't like the military, I still realize that what's happening here is pretty disgusting.
I mean, the whole argument here is that there's never been official legislation on the subject. There's only ever been verbal promises. And, while technically you might be correct, that's a pretty grotesque argument to make.
It's not often that you hear politicians actually admit that their "promises" mean nothing.
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...what is with the Harper government adopting stuff that the US started to figure out wasn't really working like ten fucking years ago?
This seems like a really weird attitude to have. You'd probably have a conniption if you walked around Halifax for 15 minutes.
Well, that certainly explains marriage equality and our Martin era banking regulations.
You are not getting what I'm saying. I'm talking with how our politics shift time wise. We get out Clinton-esque years and our Bush-esque years and such several years behind the US for the past while.
The cathedral I sing at is right next to an armoury. You'd think I'd get used to it after all these years, but nope.
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Because they don't let that stop them from being idealogues.
They have no love for anything that tells them their ideals are wrong and are so willing to hold a grudge against those messengers that pop their bubble that they will chip away at those things for years in any way that they can. They don't care if its the charter of rights, scientific study, public infrastructure, census, parliamentary procedure, bureaucratic principles, democratic right to vote, supreme court judges, peaceful protest...
These aren't the Progressive Conservatives anymore. Hell, they are not even the Reform I thought I knew. And many of us have discovered that their detractors were right on many accounts for years now since they started showing their true colours when they only formed a minority government in Parliament.
I think the only thing that gives me hope is that they don't have a militant wing that's willing to burn parliament to the ground and blame it on terrorists ... that I am aware of anyways. This C51 reads like they are making fucking secret police that will fuck up your life for whatever they determine is a terrorist.
Which apparently could be for thinking badly of the pipeline if some recent events are anything to go by.
I bring him up because he is currently in the process of taking the government to court for inciting genocide, vis-a-vis the current position on Israel and Hamas (link below). In addition, he has been pretty vociferous online about his belief that Russia is being setup by the West with regards to the Ukraine war. As objectionable and stupid as some of his commenting is, I can't help but think that this new bill is going to bleed over and effect him, despite his mostly harmless idiocy.
I just really distrust this government, and the various Canadian security services, to use these powers with any kind of restraint.
http://www.thewesternstar.com/News/Local/2015-01-29/article-4024247/Genoicide-hearing-begins-in-Corner-Brook-court/1
I do not understand the article linked. It says he is arguing that a Criminal Code law about genocide is anti-constitutional? What's his end-goal with this?
from what I have read ( and I might be way off base) it's that he wants to change the definition of genocide to include the treatment of Palestinians.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/long-form-census-back-on-lawmakers-radar-1.2216682
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It's a bill sponsored by a liberal backbencher, it has literally no hope of passing.