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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
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    Jack Chick's nightmare fantasy world would make a good Rifts campaign setting. I do like that this dystopian future was caused by Jesus Christ Superstar.


    hahahaha holy fuck

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    best old games are Quest for Glory, it is known

    Have you played Heroine's Quest? It's a totally free game, a lovingly fan-made homage to the QfG games

    I recently did a full-series runthrough on QfG when that big Sierra Humble Bundle went up, and then finally gave Heroine's Quest a shot after. It's a better Quest for Glory game than any of the actual Quest for Glory games, with the possible exception of QfG4, which it at least ties with.

    I hadn't heard about this and I am VERY intrigued

    It's all wrapped up in Norse folklore/mythology, has some very clever ideas (including a frostbite mechanic that makes exploration genuinely exciting and dangerous), fun puzzles, really excellent SVGA graphics, combat that's actually half-decent, a really slick soundtrack. It's even fully voice-acted, with most of it half-competent. Can't recommend it highly enough.

    Holy shit, thanks for the recommendation! I just tried it out tonight and jeez it brings back memories. Even the jokes are just like the old QfG series! (And of course I died from frostbite in 27 minutes... maybe I shouldn't try the highest difficulty setting yet.)

    I'm glad you dig it!

    Look, everybody! Jack Chick indirectly made somebody happy!

    Well hold on there.

    Jack Chick's death made someone indirectly happy.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    there's an alternate universe where jack chick spent his whole life drawing the funniest goddamn comics for mad magazine and that's where I want to go

    here's the kind of thing that really reminds me of his stuff:

    http://jeffoverturf.blogspot.com/2011/10/murder-husband-murder-story-jack-davis.html

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I would like to be able to say I'm not glad he's dead.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Lalabox wrote: »
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    Is that...Harry Potter on that poster?

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    I remember in grade school (4th grade I think) we listened to these...tapes...that were basically 20-minute long Chick Tracts. I distinctly remember one about a big brother that is in a D&D group and he has to sacrifice someone to obtain power, so of course he abducts his little brother and literally tries to sacrifice him in the fucking woods before the parents wise up and put a stop to his teenage shenanigans and it's all laughed off as a learning experience.

    A couple years later, 6th grade specifically, our teacher condemned D&D and Magic cards as 'black magic' and 'evil' 'without exception' and I was like, "Mr. Husby, I don't think an object can be evil. I play Magic cards and the most evil thing I've ever done is kill bugs." He then proceeds to call my mom at like 6:30 that night to tell her that I was playing with the devil's toys or some shit and my mom laughed at him until he hung up.

    Kind of off-topic, but that's my story.

    And fuck Jack Chick. (Don't fuck Jack Chick)

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    It's a King Arthur riff. It's utterly harmless and something of a commentary on Thatcherism, but seriously, I sometimes think some people resent children being happy.

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    Pokémon is the one that really confused me.

    Like, I can sort of see how witches and wizards and Defence Against the Dark Arts teachers can be seen as somewhat nefarious if you've never actually read the books.

    But Pokémon? How is an adorable, electric mouse supposed to lure innocent children away from Jesus? What, just because the games used the word 'evolution'? Makes no sense.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    Pokémon is the one that really confused me.

    Like, I can sort of see how witches and wizards and Defence Against the Dark Arts teachers can be seen as somewhat nefarious if you've never actually read the books.

    But Pokémon? How is an adorable, electric mouse supposed to lure innocent children away from Jesus? What, just because the games used the word 'evolution'? Makes no sense.

    To be fair, it is technically glorified dogfighting.

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    NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    I had a hyper-religious friend back when the Harry Potter books were just coming out (and subsequently getting banned). She told me that the books "taught people the ingredients needed to make potions". I'd read all the books up to that point, and remembered how many ingredients were things like unicorn hair and dragon liver. Telling her this seemed to have no effect on her fear of Harry Potter.

    She was very afraid of witches and the occult.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    On the thread topic: Fuck Jack Chick, the world is bettered by his passing, but I'm also not like, gonna celebrate good times (come on) at the news.

    It's like, you are what you leave in this world; the impact you make on the lives around you, the emotions people feel about you, the ideas you propagate. That's what you are when you're gone, at least insofar as a thing anyone can say with any kind of certainty.

    Being thus, ain't nobody owed being thought of as decent. Nobody is owed respect or being spoken of well. Yes, most everybody has got someone who cared for them, who liked them, who they respected and treated well. And those people might speak and think well of them. But if you're not those people, then you don't owe them a god damn thing.

    Take Antonin Scalia. A corpulent husk of pure hate, so far as I'm concerned. A man who single-handedly managed to damage the lives of millions of people simply being an obstinate prick, for no other reason than political and legal principles he couldn't even be internally consistent about. He was a Constitutional Originalist... when it suited him to stick it to gays. Or women. Fuck Antonin Scalia.

    But hey, y'know, people who knew the man personally said he was warm, genuine, an intelligent man with a keen mind for debate who deeply loved his country. Ruth Bader Ginsberg thought highly of the man, and considered him a friend. She mourned his passing, as did his other friends and family.

    Good for them. I'm not them. The millions of people whose lives he damaged aren't them. And they don't owe Scalia any kind of respect just because RBG thought he was a good dude personally. That's not how shit works. A person is capable of being many different people to different kinds of people, and those different kinds of people are going to see (and mourn) the person they know. If they mourn that person at all.

    So who knows or cares if Jack Chick was a good father or husband outside of being a shitty, hateful cartoonist. I don't know that Jack Chick. That's not the person who died. The person who died is the one who literally tried to promote hate. And fuck that guy.

    That said, I don't celebrate when human beings die. That's ghoulish and vengeful, it gives them a power over my life as if I'm so invested in their existence that I get some kind of emotional catharsis from their cessation of vital functions. No, the best justice for them when they die is that I dismiss their existence. They are done. I am done with them, and I am glad for it in the same way that I'm glad to be done with an especially troublesome bowel movement.

    Pony on
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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    it's probably meant to be, yeah

    The first Chick Tract I saw in person was the harry potter one
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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    In general, getting invested in publicly hating on someone serves more to boost them than to damage them.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    The comics really reflect a subset of belief wherein the believer just can't imagine how another person couldn't believe what they believe, so assumes they are merely being rebellious or obstinate. Like the obsession with warning people against partying and having fun, it speaks to a kind of pathetic mindset where deep down the believers are super jealous and really wish they could party and have fun too, but they can't because God said no. I'd feel sorry for them if they didn't also often spread and promote so much misery and hate

    It really gets deep down into the heart of morals and their functioning. Most are about balance and teaching basic practical wisdom, but end up as thousand year old Telephone Games where these comics are the absurd result

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    Please oh please tell me there are Anti-Mormon ones

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    Pokémon is the one that really confused me.

    Like, I can sort of see how witches and wizards and Defence Against the Dark Arts teachers can be seen as somewhat nefarious if you've never actually read the books.

    But Pokémon? How is an adorable, electric mouse supposed to lure innocent children away from Jesus? What, just because the games used the word 'evolution'? Makes no sense.

    Pokemon recieved a Papal blessing from John Paul 2 he said it promoted values of hard work friendship and kindness.
    Bendict revoked it I assume after @Beasteh trolled him on netbattle

    No idea,where Francis stands.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Please oh please tell me there are Anti-Mormon ones

    There is a video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvhlOE1Elw

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I would like to be able to say I'm not glad he's dead.

    I'm not. It doesn't undo anything he's done and in fact calls more attention to his hateful shit.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Yeah
    On my Dad's side, my grandparents, and one of my uncle's and his family, and one of my aunts, are all into this evangelical Christian religion.
    It never appealed to me, even when I was a kid getting sent to their church.

    My parents are Methodist.

    I'm an atheist, I think, but I sure haven't told anyone.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I am an atheist but it's easy to guess since I know very little about the bible and such
    2 years ago when I was asked to go with someone to an atheist forum they at the Uni I was more shocked by the 2 things the number of very pregnant women there and the fact I was the only person not to raise their hand when it was asked who came from a religion.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    That raises a good point.

    Who is Jesus?

    Find out on my new sitcom about That Lady and her invisible friend Jesus where they hunt vampires

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqWx9KXCWxc

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    Pokémon is the one that really confused me.

    Like, I can sort of see how witches and wizards and Defence Against the Dark Arts teachers can be seen as somewhat nefarious if you've never actually read the books.

    But Pokémon? How is an adorable, electric mouse supposed to lure innocent children away from Jesus? What, just because the games used the word 'evolution'? Makes no sense.

    To be fair, it is technically glorified dogfighting.

    And it's, to a degree, based in "other" religions and cultures. Though I suppose that anything where the main character doesn't kneel and pray isn't christian enough for the religious right.

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    Gonzo the ClownGonzo the Clown Registered User new member
    It's sad. Jack Chick and his D&D scare in the 80s was deeply formative for me. It was the first time in my life I went behind my Dad's back in anything important. I even tried in my weird, 13-year-old way to talk to him, but there was no way for me to muster the words necessary. Today I can say all of it; the D&D kids were my friends. They were the only clique in my school not getting into bad shit. We stayed out of trouble, we all either went military or college. I don't blame him; he had other stuff to worry about, and saying 'no' to this was an easy choice amid what I now know were a bunch of much more serious concerns. It's thirty years too late to revisit the conversation now, but in his memory I hope like Hell my kids manage to find a group of friends like I had, and that as a dad I can be less blinded by whatever crazy, Jack Chick bullshit is flying around when the time comes.

    Damn you for what you did, Jack Chick. By your works do I judge you, and your works were hatred and lies that turned father against son and made folly of wisdom.

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    NoisymunkNoisymunk Registered User regular
    For all of you who were young and gay
    or a woman finding her agency
    or a person discovering their gender
    or a lover of music
    or a roleplayer
    or faithless
    or followed a different faith
    or curious about your body and mind
    and the only thing the elders and teachers in your life had to offer you were self-righteous sermons full of fear and hate
    You deserved better and the world is wide enough.

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    POKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMANPOKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMAN i can make this march and i will make georgia howlRegistered User regular
    in the corner of the world i grew up in, which by maryland standards was "backward compared to montgomery/PG/baltimore but less bad than the truly rural parts," chick tracts were something i encountered occasionally as they were, for example, being handed out in baker park at the fourth of july celebration (or nearby on the ground around a trash can). they were fortunately mostly regarded as too aggressively stupid even for frederick, and the couple of times i found them i got a good laugh out of them even when i was barely into double digits age-wise.

    i don't think i'd ever sincerely say anything like, "i hope jack chick dies," because he was just a stupid asshole, not a monster, and so far as i can recall all the coverage i've ever read about his work was making fun of it. i have a hard time believing anyone ever picked up a tract and thought well this dude's got it figured OUT if they weren't already riding the crazytrain

    but i am glad he's finally dead, because he was a stupid asshole, and if he couldn't sort that out over the course of decades it's probably because it wasn't possible. the world is a better place without him

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    It's a King Arthur riff. It's utterly harmless and something of a commentary on Thatcherism, but seriously, I sometimes think some people resent children being happy.

    it's interesting to me that the thing about harry potter that really upsets evangelicals is the magic and not the fact that the books are basically about how adults can't be trusted

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    SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    My mother works for the company that publishes that series and had a couple of Christian schools tell her that they wouldn't allow them in her bookfairs. My mother calmly responded that if they wanted to do that it was fine, they just needed to not unpack them. The librarian told her that my mother would have to take the books with her because she wouldn't even allow them to sit in an unopened box in the library because "evil oozes..."

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    It's a King Arthur riff. It's utterly harmless and something of a commentary on Thatcherism, but seriously, I sometimes think some people resent children being happy.

    it's interesting to me that the thing about harry potter that really upsets evangelicals is the magic and not the fact that the books are basically about how adults can't be trusted

    well that one old gay guy could
    oh wait I guess that wouldn't make it any better huh

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Sassori wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    My mother works for the company that publishes that series and had a couple of Christian schools tell her that they wouldn't allow them in her bookfairs. My mother calmly responded that if they wanted to do that it was fine, they just needed to not unpack them. The librarian told her that my mother would have to take the books with her because she wouldn't even allow them to sit in an unopened box in the library because "evil oozes..."

    this is what I grew up with

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    SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    Also, I used to be a waitress and people would leave these stupid tracts and other similar items for me instead of an actual tip.

    So fuck all of the people that do that.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    In basic, two brothers in my flight got sent a box of chick tracts. The TI called them "comic books" and made them do pushups for each one. After every push up they did together on cue, he'd pull one out of the box, rip it up, and toss it in the trash.

    Couldn't have happened to two nicer assholes.

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    POKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMANPOKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMAN i can make this march and i will make georgia howlRegistered User regular
    Sassori wrote: »
    Also, I used to be a waitress and people would leave these stupid tracts and other similar items for me instead of an actual tip.

    So fuck all of the people that do that.
    sounds like a good reason to dump a bit of coffee in their lap next time they stop in

    it's not their undying soul's groin that's getting scorched, so in the grand scheme of things what does it matter, really

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    jesus christ: vampire hunter rules

    I was working video when this came through receiving and I immediately put it to the side for myself to buy and watch at the end of my shift.

    It's all good. It's all right.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Sassori wrote: »
    Also, I used to be a waitress and people would leave these stupid tracts and other similar items for me instead of an actual tip.

    So fuck all of the people that do that.
    sounds like a good reason to dump a bit of coffee in their lap next time they stop in

    it's not their undying soul's groin that's getting scorched, so in the grand scheme of things what does it matter, really

    "You tip me with cash, or you fuck off to the Country Kitchen down the street. I don't have time for your bullshit." = fired on the spot.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    I think it was largely fueled by people who knew nothing about it

    Witches are of the devil

    Children being witches is bad

    The end

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    SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I remember in grade school (4th grade I think) we listened to these...tapes...that were basically 20-minute long Chick Tracts. I distinctly remember one about a big brother that is in a D&D group and he has to sacrifice someone to obtain power, so of course he abducts his little brother and literally tries to sacrifice him in the fucking woods before the parents wise up and put a stop to his teenage shenanigans and it's all laughed off as a learning experience.

    Was this Adventures in Odyssey? We had a bunch of those tapes when I was a kid. I think that one was one of the worst, though I also remember one about a kid who couldn't read being really cheesy.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Harry Potter is probably the weirdest moral panic of its size in my lifetime.

    Like, I lived through the D&D panic and Satanic Ritual Abuse but Harry Potter is just so quaint.

    D&D, I kinda get it, y'know? It's this weird game of make believe that can be hard for people who don't play it to conceptualise and it involves pretending you are things or whatever.

    I get how easily that pushes paranoia buttons. It's weird and alien and makes your kids do weird things you don't understand.

    But Harry Potter is... a novel series? God, so weird.

    I think it was largely fueled by people who knew nothing about it

    Witches are of the devil

    Children being witches is bad

    The end

    if you expose yourself to its wickedness by reading it

    you will have already fallen for its tricks

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    It's sad. Jack Chick and his D&D scare in the 80s was deeply formative for me. It was the first time in my life I went behind my Dad's back in anything important. I even tried in my weird, 13-year-old way to talk to him, but there was no way for me to muster the words necessary. Today I can say all of it; the D&D kids were my friends. They were the only clique in my school not getting into bad shit. We stayed out of trouble, we all either went military or college. I don't blame him; he had other stuff to worry about, and saying 'no' to this was an easy choice amid what I now know were a bunch of much more serious concerns. It's thirty years too late to revisit the conversation now, but in his memory I hope like Hell my kids manage to find a group of friends like I had, and that as a dad I can be less blinded by whatever crazy, Jack Chick bullshit is flying around when the time comes.

    Damn you for what you did, Jack Chick. By your works do I judge you, and your works were hatred and lies that turned father against son and made folly of wisdom.

    I have known more than a few people who were in this position during the 80's and 90's. A notable example for me personally was a kid I went to school with, whose parents expressly forbid him from playing that game, Dungeons & Dragons. Specifically that one. That game promotes Satanism.

    But these other games, like GURPS and Rifts? Nope he doesn't care. He's never heard of them and they have goofy, not scary names.

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