DA2 was a great game and way better than DA: Origins
the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
DA2 was a great game and way better than DA: Origins
the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
Is this sarcasm? I'm not saying you're wrong, it is an opinion after all, but I have never met anyone who liked DA2 more than Origins.
DA2 was a great game and way better than DA: Origins
the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
Is this sarcasm? I'm not saying you're wrong, it is an opinion after all, but I have never met anyone who liked DA2 more than Origins.
Not sarcastic at all! DA2 was better in almost every way than Origins. The story-line, characters, world design, lay-out, game-play and anything else you care to bring up were all superior in my opinion.
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
you can go gay for Kaidan? Do you have to not have romanced any ladies previously?
Yes, and I think he'll try to make a move on you if you're nice to him when he's the in the hospital.
Huh.
I was nice to him in hospital but never noticed any sign he was into me.
Maybe if you shut down Cortez by saying you like ladies the game also rules out Kaidan.
Or my Shepard is super oblivious.
I romanced tali and kaidan still asked me if I would date him
Yeah, I don't remember if Kaiden asked me before I "locked-in" with Tali in ME3, so I'm not sure on that front. I didn't talk to Cortez either. All I know is that I was nice to him and bought him the booze at the hospital. But you will know because he'll actually show up at the cafe on the Citadel, talk about how lonely he is, and then awkwardly hit on you.
Ah, that's what that booze was for? I think I bought it eventually but never did anything with it. Guess that's why nothing happened.
To be honest I found some of his conversations kind of awkward anyway so I'm not too upset that he didn't try anything. He was such a debbie downer in this game.
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DA2 was a great game and way better than DA: Origins
the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
Is this sarcasm? I'm not saying you're wrong, it is an opinion after all, but I have never met anyone who liked DA2 more than Origins.
Not sarcastic at all! DA2 was better in almost every way than Origins. The story-line, characters, world design, lay-out, game-play and anything else you care to bring up were all superior in my opinion.
everything but the heavy environment recycling and the last 10 minutes was miles better than DA:O
DA2 was a great game and way better than DA: Origins
the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
Is this sarcasm? I'm not saying you're wrong, it is an opinion after all, but I have never met anyone who liked DA2 more than Origins.
Not sarcastic at all! DA2 was better in almost every way than Origins. The story-line, characters, world design, lay-out, game-play and anything else you care to bring up were all superior in my opinion.
Hmm. I wont say you're wrong but that's certainly a rare opinion. Did you play any of the expansions? Some of the Origins DLC was quite robust but I found the DA2 stuff pretty lacklustre, with respect to their parent titles, of course.
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KwoaruConfident SmirkFlawless Golden PecsRegistered Userregular
I keep hearing different production cycles for DA2
"oh it was made in a year"
"18 Months!"
"8 months"
"8 very busy days"
One absinthe-filled night.
"Ugh... dude, what the fuck did we do last night? All I remember is the bottle coming out and somebody dryhumping all the computers. And where'd this game come from? I don't remember making it... oh wait... oh shit."
DA2 was a great game and way better than DA: Origins
the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
Is this sarcasm? I'm not saying you're wrong, it is an opinion after all, but I have never met anyone who liked DA2 more than Origins.
Not sarcastic at all! DA2 was better in almost every way than Origins. The story-line, characters, world design, lay-out, game-play and anything else you care to bring up were all superior in my opinion.
Hmm. I wont say you're wrong but that's certainly a rare opinion. Did you play any of the expansions? Some of the Origins DLC was quite robust but I found the DA2 stuff pretty lacklustre, with respect to their parent titles, of course.
The only expansion stuff I played for DA2 was the Sebastian one
the DA: Origins expansion stuff seemed to all be about the same quality as Origins i.e. pretty good but not as good as DA2
Origins was much more favourably reviewed, and generally better received by fans. I'd argue that if anything, the DA2 scores were inflated by hype, and that the 79 on metacritic is generous to say the least.
But it's all opinions. Like I said, I'm not going to argue subjectives. But certainly I think the common opinion is that Origins is the better of the two.
DA2 for PC doesn't support gamepad conversion does it? Uggh that's the most annoying Bioware trend lately. ME2, ME3, none of them give you the option to play with a gamepad on the pc.
Origins was much more favourably reviewed, and generally better received by fans. I'd argue that if anything, the DA2 scores were inflated by hype, and that the 79 on metacritic is generous to say the least.
But it's all opinions. Like I said, I'm not going to argue subjectives. But certainly I think the common opinion is that Origins is the better of the two.
that is really weird to me but fair enough
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
Okay what the heck is this (romance spoilers again)
So not only can you romance Kaidan as a male Shepard but he talks like you've romanced him in previous games? Can you have a gay romance with him in ME1? Cos I didn't think you could.
Origins was much more favourably reviewed, and generally better received by fans. I'd argue that if anything, the DA2 scores were inflated by hype, and that the 79 on metacritic is generous to say the least.
But it's all opinions. Like I said, I'm not going to argue subjectives. But certainly I think the common opinion is that Origins is the better of the two.
I just dont understand how that can be the case unless having to clear the same cave was way more important to other people than it was to me
Because mechanically I felt that everything in DA2 was just better, like what they did from me1 to me2
Origins was much more favourably reviewed, and generally better received by fans. I'd argue that if anything, the DA2 scores were inflated by hype, and that the 79 on metacritic is generous to say the least.
But it's all opinions. Like I said, I'm not going to argue subjectives. But certainly I think the common opinion is that Origins is the better of the two.
I just dont understand how that can be the case unless having to clear the same cave was way more important to other people than it was to me
Because mechanically I felt that everything in DA2 was just better, like what the did from me1 to me2
Yeah pretty much, it was the same kind of jump in quality and the decision to use a Shepard-style fixed protagonist with options within that was a good one
Okay what the heck is this (romance spoilers again)
So not only can you romance Kaidan as a male Shepard but he talks like you've romanced him in previous games? Can you have a gay romance with him in ME1? Cos I didn't think you could.
Okay what the heck is this (romance spoilers again)
So not only can you romance Kaidan as a male Shepard but he talks like you've romanced him in previous games? Can you have a gay romance with him in ME1? Cos I didn't think you could.
Well, ok. The critics correctly panned the technical problems and wonky shooting--though I maintain they were too harsh. ME1's shooting is worse!
But what they were trying to do with the storytelling and dialog was impressive, and from what I remember, that was acknowledged.
false, truthfully everything about alpha protocol outside of the story and the dialogue was really pretty weak.
I'll just have to chalk this up to me having more bad opinions. But man, the fact that you could shoot under cover was cool, having to scope in with an assault rifle to make accurate shots made sense to me, and you could minimize the annoyance of the minigames by speccing into electronics or whatever. Honestly, like in ME2, the minigames weren't bad the first few times. But after the dozenth time you're staring at the hack screen...yeah, it got old. Stealth and pistols was hilariously broken (invisible murder machine that can stop time and shoot 5 people in the head in an instant!)
I still had fun with it though. Seems like a lot of people didn't!
Well, ok. The critics correctly panned the technical problems and wonky shooting--though I maintain they were too harsh. ME1's shooting is worse!
But what they were trying to do with the storytelling and dialog was impressive, and from what I remember, that was acknowledged.
my main problem with the story of Alpha Protocol was with the player character (mike? was that his name?)
the fact that you could change your dialogue approach on the fly made it seem like he didn't have a character of his own
having every personality is essentially having no personality
and the mechanics just weren't good enough for me to put up with a game full of characters I didn't give a shit about
though the crazy guy voiced by Nolan North almost made it worthwhile
It's the same problem you have in Mass Effect if you're constantly switching between paragon, renegade, and neutral options, honestly. But with more variety.
I put that one on the player to keep consistent. Certainly I was generally selecting one branch, same as Mass Effect.
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
Okay what the heck is this (romance spoilers again)
So not only can you romance Kaidan as a male Shepard but he talks like you've romanced him in previous games? Can you have a gay romance with him in ME1? Cos I didn't think you could.
Okay what the heck is this (romance spoilers again)
So not only can you romance Kaidan as a male Shepard but he talks like you've romanced him in previous games? Can you have a gay romance with him in ME1? Cos I didn't think you could.
the game probably lets you check kaidan as a romance even for male sheps if you edit the data
remember how in ME1 they had Meer read every bit of dialogue, even stuff that male sheps normally wouldn't get ("you're attracted to me even though we're both women?" etc.). That's probably the case in ME3 too.
Notice that Kaidan says "the person that I loved", not "the man" or the "woman"
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KwoaruConfident SmirkFlawless Golden PecsRegistered Userregular
These super spectre packs keep giving me bullshit cards I dont need
at least I've got almost all the shredder mods by now
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OrcaAlso known as EspressosaurusWrexRegistered Userregular
Except the miserable cunt dies smug and self-satisfied no matter what.
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Garret Dorigan"Why can't I be DLC for UMvC3?"Registered Userregular
In the talk of DA:O compared to DA2, I think that the likes are a bit tweaked.
DA:O gets a lot of love because it's a really good spiritual successor to BG2. The amount of people that love that game is astounding, so DA:O get's proxy love because of it.
DA2 is ME2 with swords.
I personally prefer Origins, but I completely understand why a lot of people prefer DA2. I've just always thought that the silent majority preferred Origins because of the Baldur's Gate influence.
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KwoaruConfident SmirkFlawless Golden PecsRegistered Userregular
the game probably lets you check kaidan as a romance even for male sheps if you edit the data
remember how in ME1 they had Meer read every bit of dialogue, even stuff that male sheps normally wouldn't get ("you're attracted to me even though we're both women?" etc.). That's probably the case in ME3 too.
Notice that Kaidan says "the person that I loved", not "the man" or the "woman"
I didn't know they did that for ME1. That's a bit crazy. Wonder why they did that.
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KwoaruConfident SmirkFlawless Golden PecsRegistered Userregular
Salarian infiltrator from a super spectre pack thank fucking god
now I have all the classes just in time for new shit to be put out
Except the miserable cunt dies smug and self-satisfied no matter what.
He died a long time ago. Ending the abomination that called itself Justice was pretty satisfying for my 'fuck stupid mages who make pacts with demons' Hawke.
Turns out the only Mage I liked was Bethany, who was sensible!
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OrcaAlso known as EspressosaurusWrexRegistered Userregular
Except the miserable cunt dies smug and self-satisfied no matter what.
He died a long time ago. Ending the abomination that called itself Justice was pretty satisfying for my 'fuck stupid mages who make pacts with demons' Hawke.
Turns out the only Mage I liked was Bethany, who was sensible!
Yeah, pretty much.
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Garret Dorigan"Why can't I be DLC for UMvC3?"Registered Userregular
Also calling somethign ME2 with swords doesnt seem like very good criticism?
ME2 was well written with very enjoyable gameplay, you bet I'd like a version of that with swords
It isn't, that's why I didn't go into it more than that. But it's a vastly different game than DA:O with a much more panned story than both Origins and ME2. The story was good, but not as well received as either of the other two.
DA2 got a lot of love with it's expansions, though, to quell a little of the "This is not as it once was, a child of the game we loved" hate that it got.
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the smaller scale was really cool as well. I wasn't fighting to save the world, I was fighting to re-establish my family in Kirkwall, gain power and influence, and use them for my own ends.
Is this sarcasm? I'm not saying you're wrong, it is an opinion after all, but I have never met anyone who liked DA2 more than Origins.
Not sarcastic at all! DA2 was better in almost every way than Origins. The story-line, characters, world design, lay-out, game-play and anything else you care to bring up were all superior in my opinion.
Ah, that's what that booze was for? I think I bought it eventually but never did anything with it. Guess that's why nothing happened.
To be honest I found some of his conversations kind of awkward anyway so I'm not too upset that he didn't try anything. He was such a debbie downer in this game.
everything but the heavy environment recycling and the last 10 minutes was miles better than DA:O
that was pretty bad
Hmm. I wont say you're wrong but that's certainly a rare opinion. Did you play any of the expansions? Some of the Origins DLC was quite robust but I found the DA2 stuff pretty lacklustre, with respect to their parent titles, of course.
because DA2 is way better
DA2 was a heck of a lot more fun.
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The only expansion stuff I played for DA2 was the Sebastian one
the DA: Origins expansion stuff seemed to all be about the same quality as Origins i.e. pretty good but not as good as DA2
Yeah I thought that too
people really like Origins more?
But it's all opinions. Like I said, I'm not going to argue subjectives. But certainly I think the common opinion is that Origins is the better of the two.
that is really weird to me but fair enough
4:10 in this video. How do you get this dialogue?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BuwOaq9dn8
I just dont understand how that can be the case unless having to clear the same cave was way more important to other people than it was to me
Because mechanically I felt that everything in DA2 was just better, like what they did from me1 to me2
Yeah pretty much, it was the same kind of jump in quality and the decision to use a Shepard-style fixed protagonist with options within that was a good one
I wonder if you get if you didn't romance ash or liara?
Maybe you need to have no romances at all before ME3?
I'll just have to chalk this up to me having more bad opinions. But man, the fact that you could shoot under cover was cool, having to scope in with an assault rifle to make accurate shots made sense to me, and you could minimize the annoyance of the minigames by speccing into electronics or whatever. Honestly, like in ME2, the minigames weren't bad the first few times. But after the dozenth time you're staring at the hack screen...yeah, it got old. Stealth and pistols was hilariously broken (invisible murder machine that can stop time and shoot 5 people in the head in an instant!)
I still had fun with it though. Seems like a lot of people didn't!
It's the same problem you have in Mass Effect if you're constantly switching between paragon, renegade, and neutral options, honestly. But with more variety.
I put that one on the player to keep consistent. Certainly I was generally selecting one branch, same as Mass Effect.
Seems kind of a leap that the game would assume you having no romance means
I wondered if it was using a modded save import, but that wouldn't explain Shepard having the appropriate dialogue.
I am intrigued.
I guess but
or something like that
DA:O was just a chore to play.
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remember how in ME1 they had Meer read every bit of dialogue, even stuff that male sheps normally wouldn't get ("you're attracted to me even though we're both women?" etc.). That's probably the case in ME3 too.
Notice that Kaidan says "the person that I loved", not "the man" or the "woman"
at least I've got almost all the shredder mods by now
DA2 > DA:O
DA:O gets a lot of love because it's a really good spiritual successor to BG2. The amount of people that love that game is astounding, so DA:O get's proxy love because of it.
DA2 is ME2 with swords.
I personally prefer Origins, but I completely understand why a lot of people prefer DA2. I've just always thought that the silent majority preferred Origins because of the Baldur's Gate influence.
the combat was probably more fun if you were some sort of baldur's gate fetishist
I love Baldur's Gate and the combat in DA: Origins was barely anything like it beyond "dude with swords"
ME2 was well written with very enjoyable gameplay, you bet I'd like a version of that with swords
Smacking stuff with weapons was better.
Magic sucked in comparison between the two.
I didn't know they did that for ME1. That's a bit crazy. Wonder why they did that.
now I have all the classes just in time for new shit to be put out
Turns out the only Mage I liked was Bethany, who was sensible!
Yeah, pretty much.
It isn't, that's why I didn't go into it more than that. But it's a vastly different game than DA:O with a much more panned story than both Origins and ME2. The story was good, but not as well received as either of the other two.
DA2 got a lot of love with it's expansions, though, to quell a little of the "This is not as it once was, a child of the game we loved" hate that it got.