I do not get people being hyped for a final fantasy 7 remake
Like what is the point
Well, I've never played it, so I might check it out when it's eventually released.
It might be nice to see what all the fuss is about without having to put up with the mess that is early 3D Playstation graphics.
The story goes on for like a thousand hours and makes no fuggin sense but it looked pretty in 1997
It's a JRPG.
I don't expect it to make any goddamn sense, in the slightest.
I also expect a few other terrible things, and I hope to be disappointed at least once.
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I want to replay FFVII to see if I'm misremembering it, but in my head the story was largely incoherent and filled with stuff that 12 year old me thought was awesome which in retrospect... not so much.
Some of the music was fkin rad though.
If it's the part I'm thinking of, the reason the story comes off as incoherent is the ingame explanation is at an optional detour you have no reason to go to otherwise.
coincidentally i just was listening to a podcast where john hodgeman came on to argue that nostalgia is a toxic and useless emotion, or at best a soothing drug, and like all drugs should be used with moderation
Ahh, yes. I remember when when the simple act of thinking back fondly on days of yore wasn't a political act that needed to be rejected in service to the agenda of progress.
Those were the days, man. Things were better back then.
Nostalgia for things that never were is the best nostalgia.
One of my fave Metalocalypse moments was the episode where Dr.Rockso relapses and ends with him going insane, doing massive amounts of cocaine and shouting I. Do. Cocaine!
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
You could have spent most of the last like 20 years playing FF7 on a variety of systems
why be excited about that?
1 die hard fans have been requesting it for a long time. I'm happy for those fans, and it is cool to see a company actually listening to a fanbase like that.
2 I barely played final fantasy 7 (my childhood RPG of choice is Lunar Silver Star Story Complete) so this rerelease is a chance for me to give the game another go, and maybe finish it without having to play through terrible psx graphics.
I mean I'm excited about it, but not necessarily enough that I'm buying a ps4 for it, but it could be the biggest push towards getting one.
Topically, NPR had a really good piece on Muhammad Ali, and how his legacy has already been co-opted, citing Bob Costas quip during the '96 Olympics that Ali was receiving a gold medal to replace the one that he 'lost'
It explored how this happens to all radical black activists after the fact. Was good.
I guess as well I don't really see the point of updating it?
Surely taking out elements, even shitty ones, is going to negatively impact the nostalgic value or something like that?
that's the thing with these remake things
if you keep it the same and just update the graphics, it's going to be a horribly dated game and you'll realize how much you've gotten used to how much better games are now
if you change it to "improve" it, everyone gets upset because you aren't being true to the original
it's pretty much a bad deal any way you slice it
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
It does seem like "Mt Doom" was a placeholder until he figured out a cool elvish name but then accidentally sent the manuscript to the publisher before he changed it
Of all the JRPGs i've played the only one that wasn't at least a bit confusing in terms of plot is Chrono Trigger
but that's because Chrono Trigger is a transcendent game and exists...out of time
:cool:
it's a damning indictment of the hot mess that is JRPG's that the one that features time travel as a central part of the story is the one that is the most comprehensible.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
It does seem like "Mt Doom" was a placeholder until he figured out a cool elvish name but then accidentally sent the manuscript to the publisher before he changed it
It does seem like "Mt Doom" was a placeholder until he figured out a cool elvish name but then accidentally sent the manuscript to the publisher before he changed it
It does seem like "Mt Doom" was a placeholder until he figured out a cool elvish name but then accidentally sent the manuscript to the publisher before he changed it
I guess as well I don't really see the point of updating it?
Surely taking out elements, even shitty ones, is going to negatively impact the nostalgic value or something like that?
It depends on if the goal to appeal to nostalgia or to update it in a way that appeals to a new generation that never played the original?
Though even in the former, the updates usually strive to make it like it is remembered rather than how it was. PS1 games were usually 320x240. I don't think most people remember them looking as bad as they actually did.
Of all the JRPGs i've played the only one that wasn't at least a bit confusing in terms of plot is Chrono Trigger
but that's because Chrono Trigger is a transcendent game and exists...out of time
:cool:
it's a damning indictment of the hot mess that is JRPG's that the one that features time travel as a central part of the story is the one that is the most comprehensible.
The problem with JRPGs is often the random twists the story takes. In Chrono Trigger, there is a moment when your goal becomes clear, and everything else is in service to that. In other games, like FFVI, there are some twists following your goal, but it is always clear at the moment.
Contrastingly, in games like the Tales series (which I love), the goal changes a trillion times. In Tales of Symphonia, you start out taking your friend on a journey, then you kill an angel, then you are betrayed, then you are sent to a new world knowing nothing, then you try to cure your now angel-friend, then some other stuff happens - I can't remember what - then you start fighting some bros, then it turns out a heroic figure isn't dead, then you go to space for a bit, then you fight the guy that betrayed you again, then you fight the hero who is also an angel.
Your actual main goal changes, and you're always doing adjacent stuff that leads you towards it, but the main villain isn't revealed until later, and there are tons of distractions.
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ur fav game sux
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Random battles, appalling writing, horribly confused plotting, endless ... dialogue. It needs a flamethrower taken to it.
And I say this as someone who loves that game. The original trailer still gives me goosebumps.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
It's a JRPG.
I don't expect it to make any goddamn sense, in the slightest.
I also expect a few other terrible things, and I hope to be disappointed at least once.
Celeste [Switch] - She'll be wrestling with inner demons when she comes...
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age [Switch] - Sit down and watch our game play itself
If it's the part I'm thinking of, the reason the story comes off as incoherent is the ingame explanation is at an optional detour you have no reason to go to otherwise.
Nostalgia for things that never were is the best nostalgia.
Good ol' Merrie Olde England.
Well, I don't think we're going to see less of the confused plotting and endless dialogue, it is still a JRPG after all
As for the writing, I think there were a lot of issues with the English translation in 1995 that might be getting a revisit
AND. Cloud is still going to cross-dress
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also bell bottoms and tie dye
He's going to fight a lion.
I sound like a Debbie Downer about this, which is annoying. Maybe FFXV will be super cool. I will probably buy it and see.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
JRPGs can have plots that are weird as shit, but I don't think they're always as confused as FFVII was.
he's going to fight the best lion. it's going to be so fight. he's going to make lion great again.
I don't know who this guy is, but it already seems unaffordable
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1 die hard fans have been requesting it for a long time. I'm happy for those fans, and it is cool to see a company actually listening to a fanbase like that.
2 I barely played final fantasy 7 (my childhood RPG of choice is Lunar Silver Star Story Complete) so this rerelease is a chance for me to give the game another go, and maybe finish it without having to play through terrible psx graphics.
I mean I'm excited about it, but not necessarily enough that I'm buying a ps4 for it, but it could be the biggest push towards getting one.
*goes to restart modem*
*notices an Xfinity logo*
N...n-no...NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
It explored how this happens to all radical black activists after the fact. Was good.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
Surely taking out elements, even shitty ones, is going to negatively impact the nostalgic value or something like that?
The Sr. PM just threw a shit fit and quit.
but that's because Chrono Trigger is a transcendent game and exists...out of time
:cool:
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's the thing with these remake things
if you keep it the same and just update the graphics, it's going to be a horribly dated game and you'll realize how much you've gotten used to how much better games are now
if you change it to "improve" it, everyone gets upset because you aren't being true to the original
it's pretty much a bad deal any way you slice it
justified meltdowns are great though
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it's a damning indictment of the hot mess that is JRPG's that the one that features time travel as a central part of the story is the one that is the most comprehensible.
Celeste [Switch] - She'll be wrestling with inner demons when she comes...
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age [Switch] - Sit down and watch our game play itself
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let me tell you about a little fuzzy animal called the hyena . . . .
Its just far from the best, and yes, 6 would have been a better choice.
Mt Magic Robot
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Though even in the former, the updates usually strive to make it like it is remembered rather than how it was. PS1 games were usually 320x240. I don't think most people remember them looking as bad as they actually did.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436070488675685351/208420F66FC9244D0E50504FEC62BC81A754C658/
The problem with JRPGs is often the random twists the story takes. In Chrono Trigger, there is a moment when your goal becomes clear, and everything else is in service to that. In other games, like FFVI, there are some twists following your goal, but it is always clear at the moment.
Contrastingly, in games like the Tales series (which I love), the goal changes a trillion times. In Tales of Symphonia, you start out taking your friend on a journey, then you kill an angel, then you are betrayed, then you are sent to a new world knowing nothing, then you try to cure your now angel-friend, then some other stuff happens - I can't remember what - then you start fighting some bros, then it turns out a heroic figure isn't dead, then you go to space for a bit, then you fight the guy that betrayed you again, then you fight the hero who is also an angel.
Your actual main goal changes, and you're always doing adjacent stuff that leads you towards it, but the main villain isn't revealed until later, and there are tons of distractions.
now
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