Dr Strange has made $122 million overseas its first week.
It hasn't even opened in America or China yet.
Or Canada!
Got my tickets (FINALLY), catching it with friends on Sunday at 6, really looking forward to this from the reactions I'm hearing.
Hope you're seeing it in 3d!
I am not.
Because one friend hates wearing glasses over his glasses, and another gets migraines from 3D movies.
So I guess I'm just going to have to go back and see it again in 3D.
Luckily I'm maybe a 5 minute walk from the theater, so it's not like I'll be going out of my way, and if it's as good as I'm hearing, I don't think a double viewing will put me out any.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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Dr Strange has made $122 million overseas its first week.
It hasn't even opened in America or China yet.
Or Canada!
Got my tickets (FINALLY), catching it with friends on Sunday at 6, really looking forward to this from the reactions I'm hearing.
Hope you're seeing it in 3d!
I am not.
Because one friend hates wearing glasses over his glasses, and another gets migraines from 3D movies.
So I guess I'm just going to have to go back and see it again in 3D.
Luckily I'm maybe a 5 minute walk from the theater, so it's not like I'll be going out of my way, and if it's as good as I'm hearing, I don't think a double viewing will put me out any.
The 3D was incredible and I think it is absolutely requisite, and on the largest screen possible. If at all possible an IMAX theater with their Laser projection technology.
I think the Hand and actual Hand ninjas could have stayed a sort of background "oh shit here they come" threat rather than becoming the generic mooks of the series.
At the same time, it is appropriate to the source;
I disagree, the Hand could have been a great threat - unfortunately the show runners bungled the attempt.
edit: Elektra was a highlight in that storyline, despite the fact I didn't like
making her a Black Sky, they should have kept her as a psychotic, bored rich girl.
I don't know that I said anything about whether the Hand could have been a great threat. Just that they went from existential threat (Nobu) to zombie/Nazi fodder in less than a season. The problem with ninjas is that once you see them they lose their power.
The problem wasn't the aesthetics, they did a good job there. It's the characterization, vague goals and being too mysterious as if they got off the island from Lost. The reason Fisk's gang was so beloved is that the writers gave them interesting personalities as well as intriguing goals. The Hand got neither in season 2.
If we would have gotten Miller-esque cascades of Hand ninjas off of buildings that evaporated into the shadows once their targets got their bearings back, they would have been a lot better as a primary antagonist force.
Nah, that's why the Hand aren't so well defined in the comics. They're a supernatural hit squad with a gimmick, the best villains need good motivation and personalities. There was plenty of material there to do that, and they blew the opportunity. I think under DeKnight this wouldn't have happened, the Hand were excellent adversaries in season 1.
They could've used the ninjas as a legion of disposable mooks, if they'd sprinkled some personality in there. Tarantino pulled this off in Kill Bill with the Crazy 88. Just a legion of bad motherfuckers getting iced, but then you have Gogo and Bald Dude as mini bosses, and the whole time you know who the real threat is.
I didn't hate the ninja stuff, but I think they balanced the stakes poorly and didn't have enough interesting baddies mixed in.
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Am i the only one that really loved DD s02?
I thought the whole thing right up until the last fight was great stuff. I really liked Elektra.
DD2 is fine, it's the people who rank Luke Cage anywhere in the top 4 that are insane.
Luke Cage > Matt Murdoch therefore his show is better.
I really fucking hate Matt as a character which makes watching a show about him a chore.
Luke is a nicer person, who's less interesting. There are several people in his show who over shadow him in being engaging, Misty Knight being the best. Give her a tv show, Marvel. Just a detective solving crime in Harlem.
They completely fucked up Misty's character.
Like completely and utterly fucked up writing her. Bad nonsense garbage writing for no reason. Easily my least favorite part of that show other than final fight cheese.
I disagree.
And while Luke may not be the most exciting character, I agree, I don't find Matt interesting at all. He's just a hypocrite and a douche. That doesn't interest me as a main character. I find nothing compelling about him.
Punisher though was great and the best part by far.
Hang on, you hate Matt for being a hypocrite and douche yet you like the Punisher?
Maybe not a hypocrite but he's a far bigger douche than Matt is. He's a remorseless killer, and a huge asshole. Karen had to do a lot just to gain a smidgen of his trust. Matt's a decent man underneath, Punisher's a broken man who wants to watch the world burn.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Agreed, but Batman is a jerk too.
Most Superheroes are jerks. Peter does tell Harry about him and his dad, causing Harry to hate Spiderman, which breaks their friendship once he does find out and Harry becomes the Hobgoblin. CW's Oliver destroys relationships and friendships because he can't be honest with anyone, pushes them away because he can't stand being a leader. Barry wouldn't tell his girlfriends he was the flash, pushing away two really good love interests, and goes back in time for selfish reasons, fucking up everything. It's kinda part of being a superhero, wear tights, punch bad guys, be a dick.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Agreed, but Batman is a jerk too.
Most Superheroes are jerks. Peter does tell Harry about him and his dad, causing Harry to hate Spiderman, which breaks their friendship once he does find out and Harry becomes the Hobgoblin. CW's Oliver destroys relationships and friendships because he can't be honest with anyone, pushes them away because he can't stand being a leader. Barry wouldn't tell his girlfriends he was the flash, pushing away two really good love interests, and goes back in time for selfish reasons, fucking up everything. It's kinda part of being a superhero, wear tights, punch bad guys, be a dick.
It varies, Flash and Spider-man are good people most of the time but the super-hero stuff interferes with their relationships. Both handle this better than Matt did in S2, and Oliver being a dick is a holdover from batman's influence since on the show he's CW's Batman stand in. In the comics he isn't anywhere near as dickish. Harry becoming the Hobgoblin after hearing that relevant is a huge over reaction and bad writing, Fogey's reaction to Matt in S1 is the gold standard for a normal person discovering their best friend is a super-hero.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Agreed, but Batman is a jerk too.
Most Superheroes are jerks. Peter does tell Harry about him and his dad, causing Harry to hate Spiderman, which breaks their friendship once he does find out and Harry becomes the Hobgoblin. CW's Oliver destroys relationships and friendships because he can't be honest with anyone, pushes them away because he can't stand being a leader. Barry wouldn't tell his girlfriends he was the flash, pushing away two really good love interests, and goes back in time for selfish reasons, fucking up everything. It's kinda part of being a superhero, wear tights, punch bad guys, be a dick.
It varies, Flash and Spider-man are good people most of the time but the super-hero stuff interferes with their relationships. Both handle this better than Matt did in S2, and Oliver being a dick is a holdover from batman's influence since on the show he's CW's Batman stand in. In the comics he isn't anywhere near as dickish. Harry becoming the Hobgoblin after hearing that relevant is a huge over reaction and bad writing, Fogey's reaction to Matt in S1 is the gold standard for a normal person discovering their best friend is a super-hero.
The issue I have with like Flash and Spiderman is that they hide the truth to "protect the ones they love" but that means they aren't ready for shit to go down when a psychopath supervillain. A good example of this is Aunt May in Sensational Spider-Man, when after she knows Peter is Spiderman, defeats Chameleon by poisoning him with cookies. Because she knows, she is better prepared to deal with stuff. Had she not known, the Chameleon would have killed her just to get to Spiderman. Of course, Chameleon knows because Peter was outed but still.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Agreed, but Batman is a jerk too.
Most Superheroes are jerks. Peter does tell Harry about him and his dad, causing Harry to hate Spiderman, which breaks their friendship once he does find out and Harry becomes the Hobgoblin. CW's Oliver destroys relationships and friendships because he can't be honest with anyone, pushes them away because he can't stand being a leader. Barry wouldn't tell his girlfriends he was the flash, pushing away two really good love interests, and goes back in time for selfish reasons, fucking up everything. It's kinda part of being a superhero, wear tights, punch bad guys, be a dick.
It varies, Flash and Spider-man are good people most of the time but the super-hero stuff interferes with their relationships. Both handle this better than Matt did in S2, and Oliver being a dick is a holdover from batman's influence since on the show he's CW's Batman stand in. In the comics he isn't anywhere near as dickish. Harry becoming the Hobgoblin after hearing that relevant is a huge over reaction and bad writing, Fogey's reaction to Matt in S1 is the gold standard for a normal person discovering their best friend is a super-hero.
The issue I have with like Flash and Spiderman is that they hide the truth to "protect the ones they love" but that means they aren't ready for shit to go down when a psychopath supervillain. A good example of this is Aunt May in Sensational Spider-Man, when after she knows Peter is Spiderman, defeats Chameleon by poisoning him with cookies. Because she knows, she is better prepared to deal with stuff. Had she not known, the Chameleon would have killed her just to get to Spiderman. Of course, Chameleon knows because Peter was outed but still.
Yeah, it does get too ridiculous at times and when the time has passed for keeping that secret just let the character in and move forward. USM did this well, Flash's tv show has been horrendous at it. Like give it a rest, Barry, tell IrisLinda Patty already. They deserve to know.
Watch the world burn is a bit ott, he killed the child-porn peddler, he has morals, he's just not willing to sit back and let god or the rules put the bad people in their place.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Agreed, but Batman is a jerk too.
Most Superheroes are jerks. Peter does tell Harry about him and his dad, causing Harry to hate Spiderman, which breaks their friendship once he does find out and Harry becomes the Hobgoblin. CW's Oliver destroys relationships and friendships because he can't be honest with anyone, pushes them away because he can't stand being a leader. Barry wouldn't tell his girlfriends he was the flash, pushing away two really good love interests, and goes back in time for selfish reasons, fucking up everything. It's kinda part of being a superhero, wear tights, punch bad guys, be a dick.
Finally got around to Supergirl on Netflix, and that's where it's kinda refreshing, if anything Kara's supporting cast has to work to keep her from telling every single person she meets she's Supergirl. Pretty sure 80% of the main cast knew by the first episode.
Finished Luke Cage. Wish it had its own thread, but oh well.
I loved it! It had such a cool vibe. It might be the most fun I've had watching a show in a long time, because this is the only show I've danced to. I'd set up my monitor at standing height, clear out some room, put on my good headphones, and groove out. The music is just unbelievably great in this show.
Fantastic cast and great characters. I thought Mike Colter was great.
Mahershala Ali was awesome as Cottonmouth, and the character was interesting. One of my favourite moments was when he was in the police station and the soundtrack was this cool jazz tune - then we see Cornell's fingers moving in time with the soundtrack and we realize the music we're hearing is in his head. It was brilliant.
Misty was great. The character was very interesting and I loved the performance. One thing I like about Netflix Marvel is they take moments to reflect on trauma that would be completely glossed over or ignored in their other media. I'm thinking of Misty's trauma from having her own gun pointed at her head by Diamondback. I loved how they addressed that, and it made so much sense that her behaviour became more erratic afterward.
Theo Rossi was pretty impressive given that his character, Shades, didn't really have that much to do. But he was able to impart so much gravitas and create a lot of intrigue just from the way he moved, the way he stood, the way he looked at people.
Diamondback was a bit nonsensical as a character, and I can see how that would bother people, but I still got a lot out of the performance. I enjoyed watching that actor do his thing.
Rosario Dawson was great and it was nice to see more of her.
I loved the way they made the community of Harlem feel real and alive. I loved that it was a "black" show, and that it had a different tone and point of view as a result. The symbolism of a bulletproof black man was powerful and the show did a great job showing people talking about that.
Method Man and the radio show were friggin' amazing.
Luke Cage was fantastic. In a totally different way than Daredevil and Jessica Jones were.
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Maybe not a hypocrite but he's a far bigger douche than Matt is. He's a remorseless killer, and a huge asshole. Karen had to do a lot just to gain a smidgen of his trust. Matt's a decent man underneath, Punisher's a broken man who wants to watch the world burn.
With Punisher you know what you're getting. Frank is not what anyone (including him) would call a reliable friend or someone with a good sense of priorities. Matt has roughly the same reliability and priority system as Frank, but with the force-o-meter dialed a few notches. This makes him a world class flake, because he seems to think that the fact he doesn't shoot people in the face somehow makes him a more reliable friend than Frank. He's not. If you asked Matt to pick up a birthday cake for your party, there's about a 90% chance he'd get distracted and end up beating up ninjas or muggers, or just banging Elektra, instead of delivering your cake. This wouldn't be a problem for Frank because if you asked him to run cake duty, he'd look at you like you were crazy and decline, mentioning something about needing to shoot people, but maybe he'd show up towards the end of the party, assuming he could ditch the cops.
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Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
I have wildly different reads on the characters, if not the likely results of said scenario's. Matt flakes out, yes, but he's not just off banging his girlfriend. But this is the same problem everyone on the show has too, so the writers did a good job it seems.
Maybe not a hypocrite but he's a far bigger douche than Matt is. He's a remorseless killer, and a huge asshole. Karen had to do a lot just to gain a smidgen of his trust. Matt's a decent man underneath, Punisher's a broken man who wants to watch the world burn.
With Punisher you know what you're getting. Frank is not what anyone (including him) would call a reliable friend or someone with a good sense of priorities. Matt has roughly the same reliability and priority system as Frank, but with the force-o-meter dialed a few notches. This makes him a world class flake, because he seems to think that the fact he doesn't shoot people in the face somehow makes him a more reliable friend than Frank. He's not. If you asked Matt to pick up a birthday cake for your party, there's about a 90% chance he'd get distracted and end up beating up ninjas or muggers, or just banging Elektra, instead of delivering your cake. This wouldn't be a problem for Frank because if you asked him to run cake duty, he'd look at you like you were crazy and decline, mentioning something about needing to shoot people, but maybe he'd show up towards the end of the party, assuming he could ditch the cops.
All this tells me is that Frank is a bigger asshole than Matt, which is accurate. Matt may be a flake, but at least he is a friend and he will help you when he can - Frank doesn't care about anyone and would rather be shooting criminals in the face than have a relationship with someone.
edit: Reliability is a really low standard to judge these characters a good people. And Frank's less likely to help you than Matt is.
In the theoretical, Frank isn't refusing because he's an asshole, but because he has his priorities straight. Neither you nor your cake among them. I mean, he is an asshole, but that's not why he wont go get your cake.
Matt, on the other hand, will earnestly promise to get your cake, but then end up distracted. Is it the thought that counts, or the result? If Matt is always going to prioritize Ninjas over Cake, maybe he should be honest with his friends and tell them he won't be able to bring the cake rather than instilling false hope.
Matt wants to bring the cake, hell he was on his way to the bakery... when suddenly ninjas!
The reality is, Matt is a great lawyer but an even better hero. The struggle of balancing both lives, especially when he isn't invulnerable, is basically the struggle of every comic book dude with an alter ego. Would you really begrudge someone who literally puts his life on the line to help people and put away untouchable mob bosses?
Even when Foggy knows what he's up to, he doesn't support him or try to help. Maybe instead of yelling at Matt for missing a case, he should understand the stakes. Is Matt selfish for ignoring one responsibility for another? Does he not constantly agonize over guilt, like a good Catholic should?
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Matt wants to bring the cake, hell he was on his way to the bakery... when suddenly ninjas!
The reality is, Matt is a great lawyer but an even better hero. The struggle of balancing both lives, especially when he isn't invulnerable, is basically the struggle of every comic book dude with an alter ego. Would you really begrudge someone who literally puts his life on the line to help people and put away untouchable mob bosses?
Even when Foggy knows what he's up to, he doesn't support him or try to help. Maybe instead of yelling at Matt for missing a case, he should understand the stakes. Is Matt selfish for ignoring one responsibility for another? Does he not constantly agonize over guilt, like a good Catholic should?
Honestly I think this is why it's written so well. The past five or six posts are all correct IMO. Sometimes it is okay to be frustrated with someone, and people can be shitty to their friends for all the right reasons and it's still shitty.
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After watching a bunch of reviews for Dr Strange, I'm glad I got high in the parking lot before going into the movie.
Maybe not a hypocrite but he's a far bigger douche than Matt is. He's a remorseless killer, and a huge asshole. Karen had to do a lot just to gain a smidgen of his trust. Matt's a decent man underneath, Punisher's a broken man who wants to watch the world burn.
With Punisher you know what you're getting. Frank is not what anyone (including him) would call a reliable friend or someone with a good sense of priorities. Matt has roughly the same reliability and priority system as Frank, but with the force-o-meter dialed a few notches. This makes him a world class flake, because he seems to think that the fact he doesn't shoot people in the face somehow makes him a more reliable friend than Frank. He's not. If you asked Matt to pick up a birthday cake for your party, there's about a 90% chance he'd get distracted and end up beating up ninjas or muggers, or just banging Elektra, instead of delivering your cake. This wouldn't be a problem for Frank because if you asked him to run cake duty, he'd look at you like you were crazy and decline, mentioning something about needing to shoot people, but maybe he'd show up towards the end of the party, assuming he could ditch the cops.
All this tells me is that Frank is a bigger asshole than Matt, which is accurate. Matt may be a flake, but at least he is a friend and he will help you when he can - Frank doesn't care about anyone and would rather be shooting criminals in the face than have a relationship with someone.
edit: Reliability is a really low standard to judge these characters a good people. And Frank's less likely to help you than Matt is.
We make time for what's important, and it's been pretty clear that Matt rates ninja fighting well above pretty much everything else. It doesn't make him a bad person, but his continual self-deception on what his priorities are means that he makes and breaks promises to his friends. And if you aren't willing to follow through on your promises to your friends, then you're a pretty bad friend.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Me too. I started out hating the character but by the end she had been redeemed for me.
I think they might have gone a little too far in making you hate her early on. A lot of people didn't seem to accept the fact that it was all an act and she was being used to get to Matt the whole time.
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I am not.
Because one friend hates wearing glasses over his glasses, and another gets migraines from 3D movies.
So I guess I'm just going to have to go back and see it again in 3D.
Luckily I'm maybe a 5 minute walk from the theater, so it's not like I'll be going out of my way, and if it's as good as I'm hearing, I don't think a double viewing will put me out any.
The 3D was incredible and I think it is absolutely requisite, and on the largest screen possible. If at all possible an IMAX theater with their Laser projection technology.
Mine had it, but it was the same one on YouTube right now.
See now I came here thinking this is Dr Strange's own thread.
They could've used the ninjas as a legion of disposable mooks, if they'd sprinkled some personality in there. Tarantino pulled this off in Kill Bill with the Crazy 88. Just a legion of bad motherfuckers getting iced, but then you have Gogo and Bald Dude as mini bosses, and the whole time you know who the real threat is.
I didn't hate the ninja stuff, but I think they balanced the stakes poorly and didn't have enough interesting baddies mixed in.
I disagree.
Hang on, you hate Matt for being a hypocrite and douche yet you like the Punisher?
Maybe not a hypocrite but he's a far bigger douche than Matt is. He's a remorseless killer, and a huge asshole. Karen had to do a lot just to gain a smidgen of his trust. Matt's a decent man underneath, Punisher's a broken man who wants to watch the world burn.
DD2 also has the whole jail/Kingpin/Punisher/DDvKingpin thing. It's so far ahead as a series. Yes DD is a bit of a jerk in the second series but I do think that's intentional, it's brought up that he's addicted to fighting crime as a vigilante rather than as a lawyer, and his lust for Elektra makes him even worse, it's not like he isn't punished for the decisions he makes. If anything it's a pretty realistic portrayal of the impact trying to be Batman without Batman's money and resources is like.
Which is every criminal he runs across. He's DD's worst aspects times 11, that's the reason the city fear him more than DD. He goes where DD tries not to. He has morals, sure, but they're very loose. If you're a criminal and you get his attention you're not going the hospital you're going to the morgue.
Agreed, but Batman is a jerk too.
Most Superheroes are jerks. Peter does tell Harry about him and his dad, causing Harry to hate Spiderman, which breaks their friendship once he does find out and Harry becomes the Hobgoblin. CW's Oliver destroys relationships and friendships because he can't be honest with anyone, pushes them away because he can't stand being a leader. Barry wouldn't tell his girlfriends he was the flash, pushing away two really good love interests, and goes back in time for selfish reasons, fucking up everything. It's kinda part of being a superhero, wear tights, punch bad guys, be a dick.
It varies, Flash and Spider-man are good people most of the time but the super-hero stuff interferes with their relationships. Both handle this better than Matt did in S2, and Oliver being a dick is a holdover from batman's influence since on the show he's CW's Batman stand in. In the comics he isn't anywhere near as dickish. Harry becoming the Hobgoblin after hearing that relevant is a huge over reaction and bad writing, Fogey's reaction to Matt in S1 is the gold standard for a normal person discovering their best friend is a super-hero.
The issue I have with like Flash and Spiderman is that they hide the truth to "protect the ones they love" but that means they aren't ready for shit to go down when a psychopath supervillain. A good example of this is Aunt May in Sensational Spider-Man, when after she knows Peter is Spiderman, defeats Chameleon by poisoning him with cookies. Because she knows, she is better prepared to deal with stuff. Had she not known, the Chameleon would have killed her just to get to Spiderman. Of course, Chameleon knows because Peter was outed but still.
Yeah, it does get too ridiculous at times and when the time has passed for keeping that secret just let the character in and move forward. USM did this well, Flash's tv show has been horrendous at it. Like give it a rest, Barry, tell Iris Linda Patty already. They deserve to know.
Finally got around to Supergirl on Netflix, and that's where it's kinda refreshing, if anything Kara's supporting cast has to work to keep her from telling every single person she meets she's Supergirl. Pretty sure 80% of the main cast knew by the first episode.
I loved it! It had such a cool vibe. It might be the most fun I've had watching a show in a long time, because this is the only show I've danced to. I'd set up my monitor at standing height, clear out some room, put on my good headphones, and groove out. The music is just unbelievably great in this show.
Fantastic cast and great characters. I thought Mike Colter was great.
Misty was great. The character was very interesting and I loved the performance. One thing I like about Netflix Marvel is they take moments to reflect on trauma that would be completely glossed over or ignored in their other media. I'm thinking of Misty's trauma from having her own gun pointed at her head by Diamondback. I loved how they addressed that, and it made so much sense that her behaviour became more erratic afterward.
Theo Rossi was pretty impressive given that his character, Shades, didn't really have that much to do. But he was able to impart so much gravitas and create a lot of intrigue just from the way he moved, the way he stood, the way he looked at people.
Diamondback was a bit nonsensical as a character, and I can see how that would bother people, but I still got a lot out of the performance. I enjoyed watching that actor do his thing.
Rosario Dawson was great and it was nice to see more of her.
I loved the way they made the community of Harlem feel real and alive. I loved that it was a "black" show, and that it had a different tone and point of view as a result. The symbolism of a bulletproof black man was powerful and the show did a great job showing people talking about that.
Method Man and the radio show were friggin' amazing.
Luke Cage was fantastic. In a totally different way than Daredevil and Jessica Jones were.
With Punisher you know what you're getting. Frank is not what anyone (including him) would call a reliable friend or someone with a good sense of priorities. Matt has roughly the same reliability and priority system as Frank, but with the force-o-meter dialed a few notches. This makes him a world class flake, because he seems to think that the fact he doesn't shoot people in the face somehow makes him a more reliable friend than Frank. He's not. If you asked Matt to pick up a birthday cake for your party, there's about a 90% chance he'd get distracted and end up beating up ninjas or muggers, or just banging Elektra, instead of delivering your cake. This wouldn't be a problem for Frank because if you asked him to run cake duty, he'd look at you like you were crazy and decline, mentioning something about needing to shoot people, but maybe he'd show up towards the end of the party, assuming he could ditch the cops.
All this tells me is that Frank is a bigger asshole than Matt, which is accurate. Matt may be a flake, but at least he is a friend and he will help you when he can - Frank doesn't care about anyone and would rather be shooting criminals in the face than have a relationship with someone.
edit: Reliability is a really low standard to judge these characters a good people. And Frank's less likely to help you than Matt is.
Matt, on the other hand, will earnestly promise to get your cake, but then end up distracted. Is it the thought that counts, or the result? If Matt is always going to prioritize Ninjas over Cake, maybe he should be honest with his friends and tell them he won't be able to bring the cake rather than instilling false hope.
The reality is, Matt is a great lawyer but an even better hero. The struggle of balancing both lives, especially when he isn't invulnerable, is basically the struggle of every comic book dude with an alter ego. Would you really begrudge someone who literally puts his life on the line to help people and put away untouchable mob bosses?
Even when Foggy knows what he's up to, he doesn't support him or try to help. Maybe instead of yelling at Matt for missing a case, he should understand the stakes. Is Matt selfish for ignoring one responsibility for another? Does he not constantly agonize over guilt, like a good Catholic should?
Honestly I think this is why it's written so well. The past five or six posts are all correct IMO. Sometimes it is okay to be frustrated with someone, and people can be shitty to their friends for all the right reasons and it's still shitty.
When they said "fuckit! lets go full on awesome"
it could stand to be more awesome though.
We make time for what's important, and it's been pretty clear that Matt rates ninja fighting well above pretty much everything else. It doesn't make him a bad person, but his continual self-deception on what his priorities are means that he makes and breaks promises to his friends. And if you aren't willing to follow through on your promises to your friends, then you're a pretty bad friend.
It was kind of obvious given DD season 2's ending, but you hope for the best, prepare for Luke Cage (a bulletproof zing)
Defenders is gonna be badass
Me too. I started out hating the character but by the end she had been redeemed for me.
But I want Cake. So Matt is an asshole.
Matt never really explained what was happening to Foggy so Foggy just thought he was fighting regular criminals the police could deal with.