He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
We do have data.
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He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
Boy it's a good thing Trump has a twitter account.
I remember Trump had a plan to defeat ISIS. The best plan. Guaranteed to work. He'd totally crush ISIS.
But he wouldn't tell anyone his plan to destroy ISIS because then somebody else would steal it and take the credit.
Well, Trump's president now.
I'm sure he'll announce his fool-proof, guaranteed-to-work ISIS-obliterating plan any second now. And it'll be terrific.
We already know his plan
it's to let Putin ethnically cleanse everything to keep Assad in power
Ethnic cleansing is not what is happening in Syria. If anything, that's closer to the situation in Iraq, with US air support, although I still wouldn't describe it that way.
Maybe not ethnic but population cleansing. Putin and Assad basically just reduced a city of 2 million people to a burning cinder.
The vast majority of Aleppo's civilian population had either fled to the western, government-controlled side of the city, elsewhere in government-controlled Syria, or other countries. Other civilians attempted to flee but were not allowed to by the rebels, as the rebels wanted to use them as human shields.
Look at what the US Air Force did to Ramadi, Tikrit, or Kobane. War is fucking brutal, and air forces are an especially destructive instrument of war. The Russian bombing of Syria is terrible, but the situation is far more nuanced than in this portrayal.
He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
Boy it's a good thing Trump has a twitter account.
imdointhis I just remember you posting for a while, over and over, in dozens of different ways: Well, but I just don't understand circumstantial evidence of racism; that doesn't sound like racism, I don't get it!
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I mean yeah no this guy is Hitler. There will be riots tonight I think.
I'd be a little disappointed in my country if there weren't
Supports Israel, has Jewish relatives...
is Hitler.
Man I don't get it.
regardless of how apt or relevant the comparison is, it is incredibly easy to be anti-semitic and pro-isreal at the same time. They are not even remotely incompatible viewpoints.
WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR HEART TO PATRIOTISM THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PREJUDICE- Donald John Trump, 45th President of the United States of America.
I for one hope all people of all races can come together in harmony and set our differences aside.
I love you all.
This is not as inspirational as you think it is
It is if you are a nationalist.
If you are not a nationalist it just seems like another form of prejudice.
The speech was basically "NATIONALISM."
Disagree. It sounds inspirational if you are a jingoistic white supremacist. Especially when you append the quote with the name of the man who said it.
It's nationalist only by the Republican definition of nationalist. The one with "white" in front of it.
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You know, if he follows through on what this speech says, it's going to be a great 4 years. Really, it's full of great platitu...
Never mind, "the inner city is full of drugs and gangs... this carnage stops right now"
Fuck
In Cleveland gang related violence has seen a dramatic uptick and the drug problem is so bad (re: heroine and fentanyl) that it is constantly talked about on NPR and there are billboards posting for help everywhere.
Let's ... make that not a problem...? Somehow?
Same solution as always: more police brutality.
That's not what I suggested and I haven't heard anyone suggest it.
How would you like to stop the problem?
Trump has been suggesting police brutality. His promise is that the police won't need to be "politically correct" and will be able to to what is needed against thugs.
It is something Trump has repeatedly suggested even if he refuses to call it police brutality.
His promise is that the police won't need to be "politically correct" - point me to where he said that, that is very interesting
He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
INFOSEC was a major reason for me.
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I'm confused on the make our military strong again issue, is that not a thing? Do we have a weak military in America?
The Energy plan is depressing.
The US military budget is only about 40% of the entire world's military budget. A single carrier battlegroup only has more firepower than 9 out of every 10 nations' entire militaries (we have, I believe, 11 of them).
Low energy. Sad.
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You know, if he follows through on what this speech says, it's going to be a great 4 years. Really, it's full of great platitu...
Never mind, "the inner city is full of drugs and gangs... this carnage stops right now"
Fuck
In Cleveland gang related violence has seen a dramatic uptick and the drug problem is so bad (re: heroine and fentanyl) that it is constantly talked about on NPR and there are billboards posting for help everywhere.
Let's ... make that not a problem...? Somehow?
Same solution as always: more police brutality.
That's not what I suggested and I haven't heard anyone suggest it.
How would you like to stop the problem?
Trump has been suggesting police brutality. His promise is that the police won't need to be "politically correct" and will be able to to what is needed against thugs.
It is something Trump has repeatedly suggested even if he refuses to call it police brutality.
His promise is that the police won't need to be "politically correct" - point me to where he said that, that is very interesting
I'm confused on the make our military strong again issue, is that not a thing? Do we have a weak military in America?
The Energy plan is depressing.
The US military budget is only about 40% of the entire world's military budget. A single carrier battlegroup only has more firepower than 9 out of every 10 nations' entire militaries (we have, I believe, 11 of them).
Low energy. Sad.
Okay, that's what I was thinking. Is this something that even his supporters think is a problem?
I'm confused on the make our military strong again issue, is that not a thing? Do we have a weak military in America?
The Energy plan is depressing.
The US military budget is only about 40% of the entire world's military budget. A single carrier battlegroup only has more firepower than 9 out of every 10 nations' entire militaries (we have, I believe, 11 of them).
Low energy. Sad.
Okay, that's what I was thinking. Is this something that even his supporters think is a problem?
Yes. Our military is in ruin.
All the other countries are laughing at us.
We have fewer boats than we used to.
These might not be facts, but like Newt said, feelings are more important than the truth.
Fucking douchenozzle putzbag jackoffs.
Except the boat thing. That's true. Fucking Romney.
He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
I'm confused on the make our military strong again issue, is that not a thing? Do we have a weak military in America?
The Energy plan is depressing.
The US military budget is only about 40% of the entire world's military budget. A single carrier battlegroup only has more firepower than 9 out of every 10 nations' entire militaries (we have, I believe, 11 of them).
Low energy. Sad.
Okay, that's what I was thinking. Is this something that even his supporters think is a problem?
Yes. Our military is in ruin.
All the other countries are laughing at us.
We have fewer boats than we used to.
These might not be facts, but like Newt said, feelings are more important than the truth.
Fucking douchenozzle putzbag jackoffs.
Except the boat thing. That's true. Fucking Romney.
The number of horses in our cavalry is fucking embarrassing.
He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
Your sentence. . . it makes no sense.
It's one of the few reasons I support him, but I can't speak for everyone else that supports him because I didn't go out and poll them.
WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR HEART TO PATRIOTISM THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PREJUDICE- Donald John Trump, 45th President of the United States of America.
I for one hope all people of all races can come together in harmony and set our differences aside.
I love you all.
This is not as inspirational as you think it is
It is if you are a nationalist.
If you are not a nationalist it just seems like another form of prejudice.
The speech was basically "NATIONALISM."
Disagree. It sounds inspirational if you are a jingoistic white supremacist. Especially when you append the quote with the name of the man who said it.
It's nationalist only by the Republican definition of nationalist. The one with "white" in front of it.
His only mention of race was to say that he'd make America great again regardless of whether you're "black, brown, or white" or something along those lines
I don't believe him, of course. His campaign was clearly geared toward stoking racist sentiment and I believe that's a significant part of what carried him to victory.
But the speech itself was not ethnically focused. If you already regard Trump as racist it's easy to add "white" before every mention of America, and it may be that that's how much of his base interprets his statements, but the speech itself seemed more generally nationalist than ethnically nationalist.
Maybe given the context of Trump's campaign it is reasonable to interpret it the way you are, though. I don't fucking know what's going on anymore.
I can't imagine that it's going to be a boring 4 years, so at least there's that.
I mean
I don't want an exciting government. I want a boring government that works boringly without me being in suspense if say my school district goes bankrupt or if my wife's job that relies on grants for women's services will continue.
Or if the national parks I go to once a year will still be around.
He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
Your sentence. . . it makes no sense.
It's one of the few reasons I support him, but I can't speak for everyone else that supports him because I didn't go out and poll them.
Exit polling can speak for those people and it's not correct.
He got here largely because of the prejudices against Mexicans, Muslims, women, etc that him and his base share. We're talking about someone who was endorsed by the KKK and who, after November 8th, witnessed the same thing that we all did: people emboldended to commit hate crimes because of the win of their preferred presidential candidate. That is what his win inspired.
Weird, I thought he got there because people were sick of being unemployed because their jobs were being sent overseas.
*shrug*
whadda i know.
You do realize that the voters who cared the most about the economy voted for Hillary right?
I don't realize that because I don't think it's true, but that's just my opinion and I have no consensus data so it'd be conjecture at best on my part.
Your sentence. . . it makes no sense.
I've been running into a lot of this on Facebook. I have no idea how to respond to it there either.
The closest I can come up with is "Your opinion is the hollow echo of platitudes expressed by liars and bigots around you. I implore you to find some facts before restating things you don't understand."
But it feels kinda goosey. I'm not referring to you directly @imdointhis just the "its just my opinion man, we can agree to disagree" thing that's been popping up a lot lately.
I'm confused on the make our military strong again issue, is that not a thing? Do we have a weak military in America?
The Energy plan is depressing.
The US military budget is only about 40% of the entire world's military budget. A single carrier battlegroup only has more firepower than 9 out of every 10 nations' entire militaries (we have, I believe, 11 of them).
Low energy. Sad.
Okay, that's what I was thinking. Is this something that even his supporters think is a problem?
Yes, because the notion that our military has become weak under Obama is a popular right-wing talking point
It is among the most absurd right wing talking points
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I didn't watch it, but it sounds like this
It's not theft anymore, it's presidential behavior.
We do have data.
Boy it's a good thing Trump has a twitter account.
Look at what the US Air Force did to Ramadi, Tikrit, or Kobane. War is fucking brutal, and air forces are an especially destructive instrument of war. The Russian bombing of Syria is terrible, but the situation is far more nuanced than in this portrayal.
I'm still most fond of the ones calling the 2012 election a fraud because he thought Romney won the popular but not electoral vote.
Replace Jews with Muslims
regardless of how apt or relevant the comparison is, it is incredibly easy to be anti-semitic and pro-isreal at the same time. They are not even remotely incompatible viewpoints.
The Energy plan is depressing.
Disagree. It sounds inspirational if you are a jingoistic white supremacist. Especially when you append the quote with the name of the man who said it.
It's nationalist only by the Republican definition of nationalist. The one with "white" in front of it.
Sure @imdointhis
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INFOSEC was a major reason for me.
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The Air Force is experiencing an exodus of pilots and cyber professionals.
An unemployed person and a person employed by Trump can often expect to receive the exact same amount of financial gain.
That is a true statement.
Watching the death of all good things will do that to you.
The US military budget is only about 40% of the entire world's military budget. A single carrier battlegroup only has more firepower than 9 out of every 10 nations' entire militaries (we have, I believe, 11 of them).
Low energy. Sad.
Pfff.
He's too patriotic for that.
Okay, that's what I was thinking. Is this something that even his supporters think is a problem?
Trump
Violent crime is down in America, yes.
If the draft is reinstated I go full on insurgency.
Yes. Our military is in ruin.
All the other countries are laughing at us.
We have fewer boats than we used to.
These might not be facts, but like Newt said, feelings are more important than the truth.
Fucking douchenozzle putzbag jackoffs.
Except the boat thing. That's true. Fucking Romney.
Your sentence. . . it makes no sense.
The number of horses in our cavalry is fucking embarrassing.
It's one of the few reasons I support him, but I can't speak for everyone else that supports him because I didn't go out and poll them.
I'll take boredom, thanks.
I don't believe him, of course. His campaign was clearly geared toward stoking racist sentiment and I believe that's a significant part of what carried him to victory.
But the speech itself was not ethnically focused. If you already regard Trump as racist it's easy to add "white" before every mention of America, and it may be that that's how much of his base interprets his statements, but the speech itself seemed more generally nationalist than ethnically nationalist.
Maybe given the context of Trump's campaign it is reasonable to interpret it the way you are, though. I don't fucking know what's going on anymore.
"May you live in interesting times" is actually a curse, remember.
I mean
I don't want an exciting government. I want a boring government that works boringly without me being in suspense if say my school district goes bankrupt or if my wife's job that relies on grants for women's services will continue.
Or if the national parks I go to once a year will still be around.
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"May we live in interesting times."
The key word being live.
Exit polling can speak for those people and it's not correct.
I've been running into a lot of this on Facebook. I have no idea how to respond to it there either.
The closest I can come up with is "Your opinion is the hollow echo of platitudes expressed by liars and bigots around you. I implore you to find some facts before restating things you don't understand."
But it feels kinda goosey. I'm not referring to you directly @imdointhis just the "its just my opinion man, we can agree to disagree" thing that's been popping up a lot lately.
I just wandered into the cafeteria and watched the Obamas get in the chopper and take off. I felt...many things.
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It is among the most absurd right wing talking points
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