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[WoW] What A Long, Strange Chat it's Been

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Naxx25 is absolutely terrible for Warrior DPS plate. Very little in the way of Armor Pen.

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    pollofacepolloface Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SPOOKY FLAVOR DEBUFF IN ICECROWN THAT DOES "SEEMINGLY" LITTLE DAMAGE, AND IS NOT LIKE SUNWELL RADIANCE IN ANY WAY EXCEPT AS A DEBUFF ON YOU THE ENTIRE DUNGEON!

    Chill of the Throne:
    The chilling presence of the Frozen Throne deals Frost damage to all nearby enemies. Removes 1% of your health every 3 sec.

    Edited for people who have bursts of air flowing over their head.

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    815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    That isn't exactly like radiance, really.

    Plus free rage is awesome.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Why would you get free rage?

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    pollofacepolloface Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    815165 wrote: »
    That isn't exactly like radiance, really.

    Plus free rage is awesome.

    Well I meant more along the lines of their zone wide debuff.

    And its a ticking damage that currently fills rage and stops spells like summoning stone and the like.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Enviromental damage doesn't grant rage. Never did as far as I remember.

    Go stand in a cooking fire. You don't get any rage from it. And even then, I highly doubt Blizz would let you get free rage from this.

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    JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    That's nothing like sunwell radiance. That was to combat gear scaling. This is clearly just there to be like omg we entered ICC, it's so ominous that we take 300 damage per 3 seconds.

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    28682868 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dread/Radiance is awesome. It is one thing I love about LoTRO vs wow. One resistance/buff to worry about for the entire game. Plus the dread effect reminded me I was but a cog in the machine. So when bosses came and waved me away as inconsequential when they left me for their minions, it was because I was curled up sucking my thumb. Not because "I can't attack that target."

    Arthas should do that. And Deathwing, all those chaps. Until we find some holy power or blah blah blah something to face them down. I don't want to be able to "Brush up against Arthas and fart loudly, what stinks."

    A mechanic like dread is what this game was missing. No one would be calling Arthas a pussy if every time he made an appearance in northrend the character had to change their fucking depends.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    They are talking about Sunwell Radiance, not whatever LOTRO thing oyu are referring to.

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    28682868 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Enviromental damage doesn't grant rage. Never did as far as I remember.

    Go stand in a cooking fire. You don't get any rage from it. And even then, I highly doubt Blizz would let you get free rage from this.

    You get rage from auras that cause damage. Like Rivendare's

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    2868 wrote: »
    Enviromental damage doesn't grant rage. Never did as far as I remember.

    Go stand in a cooking fire. You don't get any rage from it. And even then, I highly doubt Blizz would let you get free rage from this.

    You get rage from auras that cause damage. Like Rivendare's

    Ok, I'll put it this way. I have my doubts that this would grant any rage at all. Or be considered actual damage in terms of affecting casting times, or preventing you bandage, or stuff like that. Just a flat -1% every tick. They ain't gonna give warriors some form of infinite rage, no way.

    Unless it's already been confirmed that it does do all that stuff. In which case I'll be happy to remove my foot from my mouth. :)

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    That's nothing like sunwell radiance. That was to combat gear scaling. This is clearly just there to be like omg we entered ICC, it's so ominous that we take 300 damage per 3 seconds.

    Yeah, this doesn't do anything for gear scaling, it's just a fun little bit of "fuck you players, DIE!".

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    28682868 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    2868 wrote: »
    Enviromental damage doesn't grant rage. Never did as far as I remember.

    Go stand in a cooking fire. You don't get any rage from it. And even then, I highly doubt Blizz would let you get free rage from this.

    You get rage from auras that cause damage. Like Rivendare's

    Ok, I'll put it this way. I have my doubts that this would grant any rage at all. Or be considered actual damage in terms of affecting casting times, or preventing you bandage, or stuff like that. Just a flat -1% every tick. They ain't gonna give warriors some form of infinite rage, no way.

    Unless it's already been confirmed that it does do all that stuff. In which case I'll be happy to remove my foot from my mouth. :)

    I bet there is some buff you can get to prevent it. Some NPC runs up ins, Jaina, or Sylvanas, and makes you immune to it. And if you get out of range then they spit in your eye with the damage, something. Who knows.

    I can see creative strategies that involve juggling the debuff/buff if this is true. Creative strategy intrigues me.

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    815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It does grant rage right now, but I doubt it will by the time the zone is actually finished.

    Sounds like the Aura is going to get worse the closer you get to the Frozen Throne.

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    tehmarkentehmarken BrooklynRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sounds very interesting an cool. Would be neat if it was like FF Crystal Chronicles with the bucket mechanic. Have an escort NPC (Jaina/Sylvanas) with a bubble around them, and you stop with them for buffing/drinking/rezzing/eating. And when you get into fights, you hafta take the "aura" damage or run around into the bubble, something like Malygos fight maybe.

    I'm just tossing ideas here, but there could be some interesting mechanics to arise from this aura thing.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    No more rogues Vanishing to avoid a wipe. Ho ho ho.

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    LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    No more rogues Vanishing to avoid a wipe. Ho ho ho.

    Two expansions later they finally and completely fixed all of the bugs with Vanish. :V
    fuck rogues

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Warlock Hellfire is still good though!

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Hellfire is the most OP shit I've ever seen on the Twins.

    What do you mean you're going into the fight with 94 charges already?

    Fucking warlocks.

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    CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    tehmarken wrote: »
    Sounds very interesting an cool. Would be neat if it was like FF Crystal Chronicles with the bucket mechanic. Have an escort NPC (Jaina/Sylvanas) with a bubble around them, and you stop with them for buffing/drinking/rezzing/eating. And when you get into fights, you hafta take the "aura" damage or run around into the bubble, something like Malygos fight maybe.

    I'm just tossing ideas here, but there could be some interesting mechanics to arise from this aura thing.

    Fuck the bucket! You be the bucket bitch!

    God that was the most annoying part of that game.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    tehmarken wrote: »
    Sounds very interesting an cool. Would be neat if it was like FF Crystal Chronicles with the bucket mechanic. Have an escort NPC (Jaina/Sylvanas) with a bubble around them, and you stop with them for buffing/drinking/rezzing/eating. And when you get into fights, you hafta take the "aura" damage or run around into the bubble, something like Malygos fight maybe.

    I'm just tossing ideas here, but there could be some interesting mechanics to arise from this aura thing.

    Fuck the bucket! You be the bucket bitch!

    God that was the most annoying part of that game.

    Crystal Chronicles was possibly the stupidest game design I've ever seen.

    Whoever made that game should be dragged into the street and shot.

    ....

    I mean seriously, how could ANYONE, EVER think that the bucket was a good idea? It boggles the fucking mind. I'd be less surprised by a game that, upon opening, you found out was just a lump of diarrhea in a jewel case. That would at least make sense.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It forced the group to stay together, added an additional element that had to be considered in fights, forced a certain amount of communication, started fights, and ended friendships.

    Sort of like being able to attack your ally in Battletoads.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hevach wrote: »
    It forced the group to stay together, added an additional element that had to be considered in fights, forced a certain amount of communication, started fights, and ended friendships.

    Sort of like being able to attack your ally in Battletoads.

    At least in Battletoads if your teammate hit you, you had some recourse

    But the number one reason Crystal Chronicles was never a hit around here is because no one wanted to be the one to hold that fucking bucket

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
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    Why was our enhancement shaman's DPS terrible for 4 attempts on anub tonight? Check out the achievement spam.

    (and yes, my gear is broken).

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    ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fist weapons use unarmed skill.

    It's not uncommon to have 399/400 in a weapon skill for ages, it takes forever to get that last %@*!ing point.

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    CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hevach wrote: »
    It forced the group to stay together, added an additional element that had to be considered in fights, forced a certain amount of communication, started fights, and ended friendships.

    Sort of like being able to attack your ally in Battletoads.

    No, it encouraged whoever was the bucket bitch to walk away from the group at random times.

    Because he's a douche.

    Edit: Note, I played with some friends and did honestly have a blast. But seriously. WTF bucket?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Arkan wrote: »
    Fist weapons use unarmed skill.

    It's not uncommon to have 399/400 in a weapon skill for ages, it takes forever to get that last %@*!ing point.

    He doesn't have fist weapons, he's got Stormpike Cleaver and Northren Tempset.

    There was a simple explanation, but fist weapon wasn't it. I wasn't the only person who was begging for a jeeves by that attempt.

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    ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well then.

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    LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    So did you rape said shaman for that, or

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Ledneh wrote: »
    So did you rape said shaman for that, or

    No, they finally dropped a goddamn jeeves. After that wipe we had 3 people at 0% duability. On that attempt, we had people low, but the raid leaders mod doesn't tell when people have a few broken pieces but still durability left on the rest, only their overall percent. You can see where my gear is. That shaman and I had both gotten two battle rezzes, nobody else got more than one, so we'd eaten a couple extra deaths than everybody else.

    I just thought the image was pretty funny out of context - I hadn't considered that an enhance shaman might be using a fist weapon.

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You know, I really wouldn't mind weapon skill all that much if it wasn't for the obscene jump in requirements for that last point.
    I am quite confident in saying that the jump from 399 to 400 is literally over ten times the jump from 398 to 399.

    This was extremely noticeable to me recently when I decided to max out bows and crossbows on my rogue (everything else was maxed out on that character page, so figured why not). I'd buy 200 cheap arrows and head out, figuring I'd get that last point long before I ran out...only to run out and have to buy another 200. And then another 200.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It didn't seem bad at all for me, but I've read that casters have an easier time leveling their melee skills, and I've also seen some tests that suggest intellect still increases skillups even though it was supposedly taken out in a patch years ago.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It would not surprise me if high intelligence still increased the rate in which weapon skills are levelled, as long as having how intelligence didn't cause it to decrease

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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Anyone else that has battlenet account get the pengiun pet?
    Is it supposed to do anything special? I just opened the mail and got it today before heading to work.
    Also any eta on the ony pet?

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Seemed to be a reskin of Pengu, no special abilities.

    Ony whelp is supposed to be coming in the anniversary event, so same time as the Baby Blizzard Bear came around last year. I think that was mid-late November through some time in December.

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah, I got Mr. Chilly. Everyone with an existing WoW account who merges should be getting him, no longer how long ago they did the merge.

    Ony pet will probably be Nov. 23.

    Edit: Looking, I see people got the blizzard bear cub Nov 23, 2008 - Dec 7, 2008. So two week period-ish.

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    AzareanAzarean Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Radiation wrote: »
    Anyone else that has battlenet account get the pengiun pet?
    Is it supposed to do anything special? I just opened the mail and got it today before heading to work.
    Also any eta on the ony pet?

    Got Penguin. I presume it's just a "Hey, we know you're not keen on this, so here's a penguin!" dealie.

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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah the reskin thing was my initial reaction.
    "Oh...its the same pet I already have."

    I guess I was hoping he would do something, have a cool animation...or something to make me desire to have him out.
    Shit, busting him out with other pengiuns, and they all started doing some fucking dance would be awesome.
    Which brings me to my next thing. Weren't we promised moar dance stuffs?

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2009
    Mr. Chilly is not the same.

    Look at Pengu. He is pure, brooding evil.

    I'm pretty sure I will wake up in the morning and find Chilly's neck broken.

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    HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Mr. Chilly is not the same.

    Look at Pengu. He is pure, brooding evil.

    I'm pretty sure I will wake up in the morning and find Chilly's neck broken.

    They're making Pengu's eyes blue in 3.3. Chilly's just got to hold out another couple months or so.

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