Action movie logic has a habit of ignoring those kind of details when it's convenient.
This argument is always such a stupid fall-back! There are laws and established knowns throughout every story! Saying that it is okay to fib for the purpose of action negates the entire purpose of setting up background!
Here, I'll offer a solution. They could still have their big explosion and Harrison in a fridge, but just do not have the fridge fly a mile high and a mile away. So, it clearly stood the blast. let it stay there, or just fly out the house a little. Feeling outrageous? let it bounce down the street!
That is 100 times more acceptable than having him launched and land injury free the way he did. You know why?
A movie audience, for the most part, does not know the effects of a nuclear blast. Maybe a lead lined and thick fridge could protect from that radiation and heat!
But a movie audience does know that the fridge could be equated to a good sturdy car. It could roll real hard and fast and bounce down the street. Indy would be a bit worse for wear, but he could possibly walk it off. They will also be pretty god damned certain that if that same car is cannoned through the air over an arch of a mile, it will be crushed and its inhabitants will be a 5-o-clock shadowed pile of mush
whoa dude why you such a fusser it's just a movie talk on innernet
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I am a part of a small club who likes Temple of Doom better than the others. Mock us as you are wont, but it is written that one day we shall inherit the earth.
I never understood why people seriously think that Temple Of Doom is inferior to the other two (and yeah, f Crystal Skull, I was so depressed in the theatre).
Action movie logic has a habit of ignoring those kind of details when it's convenient.
This argument is always such a stupid fall-back! There are laws and established knowns throughout every story! Saying that it is okay to fib for the purpose of action negates the entire purpose of setting up background!
Didn't say it was okay, just that it happens all the time in action movies, and that getting angry over it is dumb.
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Action movie logic has a habit of ignoring those kind of details when it's convenient.
This argument is always such a stupid fall-back! There are laws and established knowns throughout every story! Saying that it is okay to fib for the purpose of action negates the entire purpose of setting up background!
Didn't say it was okay, just that it happens all the time in action movies, and that getting angry over it is dumb.
show another example where a thoroughly used concept in a well-established series of movies
such as PHYSICS
was completely shit on and it was somehow okay
seriously "it happens sometimes so don't get mad" is still a full on stupid argument
there is a need for internal consistency in movies and in all kinds of fiction
people confuse this for an expectation of realism, like they think the deal is that movies either are or are not like real life and that's where it ends
and then they say "well here's a part where it's unrealistic, so you can't complain about any other ridiculous shit that happens which violates the story's own rules because it's already unrealistic"
no, that's retarded. if i write a fantasy story with shitloads of dragons, that's already unrealistic because dragons do not exist. but if i establish over the course of that story that my dragons breathe fire and that remains true for the whole story, the reader can still expect that the dragon at the end of the story will also breathe fire. if i have it breathe magical antigravity rays instead so it can save the hero from falling, they have the right to be like "what the fuck" because that's not internally consistent. whether the story is realistic to begin with doesn't matter.
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FishmanPut your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain.Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
Let's forget Crystal Skull and talk about how boss Fate of Atlantis is instead.
Action movie logic has a habit of ignoring those kind of details when it's convenient.
This argument is always such a stupid fall-back! There are laws and established knowns throughout every story! Saying that it is okay to fib for the purpose of action negates the entire purpose of setting up background!
Didn't say it was okay, just that it happens all the time in action movies, and that getting angry over it is dumb.
show another example where a thoroughly used concept in a well-established series of movies
such as PHYSICS
was completely shit on and it was somehow okay
seriously "it happens sometimes so don't get mad" is still a full on stupid argument
A well established series of movies in which two of the movies are nearly two decades apart, you mean?
Because it's a lot easier to forget certain nuances in your approach to specific details, or just have a significantly altered outlook on how you do movies over a span of 19 years.
It really should not have come as a surprise to anyone that the newer film did not have the exact same approach on everything as the previous movies.
Well I bought the Lucas arts pack in some sale a few months back, but haven't actually replayed any of the games since I bought them. It was more oh hey, it's pretty cheap on steam, better go buy it.
FishmanPut your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain.Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
My mother, brother and I used to race to be the first to finish adventure games from LucasArts.
Fate of Atlantis was great because I was the first to finish brains, my brother was the first to finish brawn, and my mother was the first to finish co-op.
I was the first to finish all three. I win!
So far, since the Steam Sale, I've done LOOM and Secret of Monkey Island SE (and Machinarium, which was awesome). I was going to hit up Ben There, Dan That next, but maybe I'll do The Dig or Fate of Atlantis instead.
Temple of Doom is awesome. It's like Indiana Jones tackling some classic James Bond villain complete with cult henchmen and a super fortress. And the mine car chase is awesome.
Crystal Skull was just excessive in pretty much every category.
It assumed that as long as the film was flashy and unpredictable it would delight audiences. The whole thing seemed like they'd made it more "family friendly" and dumbed it down. It was just so over the top that it was hard for me to take it at all seriously. And with that your "suspense" goes right out the window and it takes with it the core of the action sequences.
I had to be physically restrained from walking out of Crystal Skull by my friends.
There came a point, and I don't remember when exactly maybe like 20 minutes in, that it was just too bad. Stood up and tried to walk out, but nope...had to sit through another hour and change in that turd of a movie.
i never really had a problem with the aliens at the end of Crystal Skull
because i looked back at the other movies and saw:
1. Face melting God box
2. Reaching into somebody's chest and pulling out their still beating heart
3. 700+ year old knight chilling in a cave waiting to chat about a cup that gives immortality
i never really had a problem with the aliens at the end of Crystal Skull
because i looked back at the other movies and saw:
1. Face melting God box
2. Reaching into somebody's chest and pulling out their still beating heart
3. 700+ year old knight chilling in a cave waiting to chat about a cup that gives immortality
it didnt seem so bad in comparison
Conceptually, I agree.
From an execution standpoint the movie was a steaming pile.
The worst thing about Crystal Skull was that it evoked the same bad gut check that I got when I saw Phantom Menace for the first time. All excited cause my favorite thing was coming back after all these years and the trailers made it sound awesome. Sitting in the theater all excited and ready to have fun with a movie.
I think it was right at the point where they start chasing the floating magnet trail and in Star Wars as soon as they tried to murder the Jedis with poop gas. Because after those points both movies continue to go down hill on a avalanche of shit.
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Action movie logic has a habit of ignoring those kind of details when it's convenient.
This argument is always such a stupid fall-back! There are laws and established knowns throughout every story! Saying that it is okay to fib for the purpose of action negates the entire purpose of setting up background!
Here, I'll offer a solution. They could still have their big explosion and Harrison in a fridge, but just do not have the fridge fly a mile high and a mile away. So, it clearly stood the blast. let it stay there, or just fly out the house a little. Feeling outrageous? let it bounce down the street!
That is 100 times more acceptable than having him launched and land injury free the way he did. You know why?
A movie audience, for the most part, does not know the effects of a nuclear blast. Maybe a lead lined and thick fridge could protect from that radiation and heat!
But a movie audience does know that the fridge could be equated to a good sturdy car. It could roll real hard and fast and bounce down the street. Indy would be a bit worse for wear, but he could possibly walk it off. They will also be pretty god damned certain that if that same car is cannoned through the air over an arch of a mile, it will be crushed and its inhabitants will be a 5-o-clock shadowed pile of mush
whoa dude why you such a fusser it's just a movie talk on innernet
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Didn't say it was okay, just that it happens all the time in action movies, and that getting angry over it is dumb.
show another example where a thoroughly used concept in a well-established series of movies
such as PHYSICS
was completely shit on and it was somehow okay
seriously "it happens sometimes so don't get mad" is still a full on stupid argument
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goatmon is totally bashing physics
fight that man
word.
people confuse this for an expectation of realism, like they think the deal is that movies either are or are not like real life and that's where it ends
and then they say "well here's a part where it's unrealistic, so you can't complain about any other ridiculous shit that happens which violates the story's own rules because it's already unrealistic"
no, that's retarded. if i write a fantasy story with shitloads of dragons, that's already unrealistic because dragons do not exist. but if i establish over the course of that story that my dragons breathe fire and that remains true for the whole story, the reader can still expect that the dragon at the end of the story will also breathe fire. if i have it breathe magical antigravity rays instead so it can save the hero from falling, they have the right to be like "what the fuck" because that's not internally consistent. whether the story is realistic to begin with doesn't matter.
A well established series of movies in which two of the movies are nearly two decades apart, you mean?
Because it's a lot easier to forget certain nuances in your approach to specific details, or just have a significantly altered outlook on how you do movies over a span of 19 years.
It really should not have come as a surprise to anyone that the newer film did not have the exact same approach on everything as the previous movies.
Is that a better argument?
Yeah redhead got it right.
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Should have been the fourth film, just swap Nazis for Commies.
they should make a movie version now just because. Christina hendricks as Sophia
dangit, now I wanna replay it. Steam version ahoy
Because so far the series is following an odds-are-great, evens-are-awful format
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Fate of Atlantis was great because I was the first to finish brains, my brother was the first to finish brawn, and my mother was the first to finish co-op.
So far, since the Steam Sale, I've done LOOM and Secret of Monkey Island SE (and Machinarium, which was awesome). I was going to hit up Ben There, Dan That next, but maybe I'll do The Dig or Fate of Atlantis instead.
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Temple of Doom is awesome. It's like Indiana Jones tackling some classic James Bond villain complete with cult henchmen and a super fortress. And the mine car chase is awesome.
It assumed that as long as the film was flashy and unpredictable it would delight audiences. The whole thing seemed like they'd made it more "family friendly" and dumbed it down. It was just so over the top that it was hard for me to take it at all seriously. And with that your "suspense" goes right out the window and it takes with it the core of the action sequences.
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I liked the idea for Crystal Skull. Cause alien shit kinda like Stargate would be cool in the Indy universe. But it was a horrible movie.
There came a point, and I don't remember when exactly maybe like 20 minutes in, that it was just too bad. Stood up and tried to walk out, but nope...had to sit through another hour and change in that turd of a movie.
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because i looked back at the other movies and saw:
1. Face melting God box
2. Reaching into somebody's chest and pulling out their still beating heart
3. 700+ year old knight chilling in a cave waiting to chat about a cup that gives immortality
it didnt seem so bad in comparison
Conceptually, I agree.
From an execution standpoint the movie was a steaming pile.
I think it was right at the point where they start chasing the floating magnet trail and in Star Wars as soon as they tried to murder the Jedis with poop gas. Because after those points both movies continue to go down hill on a avalanche of shit.