I hate this game, HATE IT. I play people who are total scrubs, and struggle. It's like I get used to playing people who think properly but need a whole different set of tools to deal with mashing idiots. RAGE!
To be perfectly fair she's not really all that conventional. Plus you'll lose PP playing against characters you don't know anyway. Lost nearly all trying to learn ibuki.
I've played against good makotos (not me, I'm crap.) and believe me she can be really good.
I hate this game, HATE IT. I play people who are total scrubs, and struggle. It's like I get used to playing people who think properly but need a whole different set of tools to deal with mashing idiots. RAGE!
The best way to deal with mashing spamming scrubs is to play it safe.
Block when in doubt. Try to bait shoryukens and ultras, especially after a knockdown or a successful combo. Don't take risks, and don't assume they've learned from their mistakes. Wait for them to do something unsafe and punish it. If they're a shoto, don't try to pressure them with mindgames, because they're playing
mindlessly. Bait and punish, and use good pokes and anti airs to zone them out and get them frustrated.
I hate this game, HATE IT. I play people who are total scrubs, and struggle. It's like I get used to playing people who think properly but need a whole different set of tools to deal with mashing idiots. RAGE!
The best way to deal with mashing spamming scrubs is to play it safe.
Block when in doubt. Try to bait shoryukens and ultras, especially after a knockdown or a successful combo. Don't take risks, and don't assume they've learned from their mistakes. Wait for them to do something unsafe and punish it. If they're a shoto, don't try to pressure them with mindgames, because they're playing
mindlessly. Bait and punish, and use good pokes and anti airs to zone them out and get them frustrated.
Pretty much correct on all points. Playing a significantly weaker player in an exercise in fundamentals, and block/punish. Don't get greedy though, it could cause you to eat wakeup ultra.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
I hate this game, HATE IT. I play people who are total scrubs, and struggle. It's like I get used to playing people who think properly but need a whole different set of tools to deal with mashing idiots. RAGE!
The best way to deal with mashing spamming scrubs is to play it safe.
Block when in doubt. Try to bait shoryukens and ultras, especially after a knockdown or a successful combo. Don't take risks, and don't assume they've learned from their mistakes. Wait for them to do something unsafe and punish it. If they're a shoto, don't try to pressure them with mindgames, because they're playing
mindlessly. Bait and punish, and use good pokes and anti airs to zone them out and get them frustrated.
Pretty much correct on all points. Playing a significantly weaker player in an exercise in fundamentals, and block/punish. Don't get greedy though, it could cause you to eat wakeup ultra.
In my experience, scrubs will very consistently do a wakeup reversal of some kind nearly every time they get knocked down
If they have Ultra, just assume they'll wake up with it
I usually just walk up to their prone body and block low, and they usually do something stupid that I can punish
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Don't forget to make your baits at least somewhat convincing. Walk up to them when they're downed and pretend to do something stupid(spam medium punch/grab just outside grab range) and block low when they're about to get up.
Timing an overhead attack to end just before they stand up works really well for me, since those moves typically have a longer more choreographed animation to help encourage them to go for the reversal.
You know what the problem is right? "Make Makoto not terrible" was not listed under the changes. Apparently ChaosHat did not donate enough from Tuesdays Ranbat.
At this point, I'm going to assume it became a Capcom office joke to run around, punch someone in the dick and yell "Seichusen Godanzuki!" and run off. After the fifth or so dick punch, Ono had had enough. He would get the last laugh over the dick punchings.
Given Ono's personality i bet he was doing most of the running around and dick punching.
It's good to read that I am not the only one who suffers from playing poorly vs random masher type players. It does make me realize I need to tighten up my combo links, since the most common way I lose is from dropping links and eating srks in these matches. Well or trying to punish lp ken srks and eating EX srk for my troubles.
It's good to read that I am not the only one who suffers from playing poorly vs random masher type players. It does make me realize I need to tighten up my combo links, since the most common way I lose is from dropping links and eating srks in these matches. Well or trying to punish lp ken srks and eating EX srk for my troubles.
Thank god I'm not the only person who does this. Go to punish a whiffed Shoryuken and hey-ho, followup shoryukjen the face. So fucking annoying.
Have an easy to do punish dialed, preferably one that knocks down and has decent range. Mashers go down easy so long as you don't lose focus.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
What I do, and can work on anyone at least 2 or 3 times is get just in sweep range when they're down and as they start to get up, throw out a sweep. Scrubs won't block it at all, or at least not until the 5th or 6th one, and even people that know what to do will eat one or two.
What I do, and can work on anyone at least 2 or 3 times is get just in sweep range when they're down and as they start to get up, throw out a sweep. Scrubs won't block it at all, or at least not until the 5th or 6th one, and even people that know what to do will eat one or two.
This makes me eat all sorts of fun stuff way more then it works out good for me.
What I do, and can work on anyone at least 2 or 3 times is get just in sweep range when they're down and as they start to get up, throw out a sweep. Scrubs won't block it at all, or at least not until the 5th or 6th one, and even people that know what to do will eat one or two.
This makes me eat all sorts of fun stuff way more then it works out good for me.
It works for me, but your mileage may vary, and I suppose it is a bad recommendation.
Yay, a fighting game is actually getting a patch. Though it seems to just be to address bugs and other such unintended stuff. I wonder if we will see some rebalancing at some point?
Does anyone have any suggestions for playing as Cammy against Sagat in HDR? I'm getting good at playing against Ryu and Ken when they fireball spam, but Sagat's projectiles seem to move too slowly for me to backfist through them, and I hate to just sit there and take damage if I somehow get out of range.
Does anyone have any suggestions for playing as Cammy against Sagat in HDR? I'm getting good at playing against Ryu and Ken when they fireball spam, but Sagat's projectiles seem to move too slowly for me to backfist through them, and I hate to just sit there and take damage if I somehow get out of range.
If he's predictable enough how about a psychic EX hooligan across the screen?
Does anyone have any suggestions for playing as Cammy against Sagat in HDR? I'm getting good at playing against Ryu and Ken when they fireball spam, but Sagat's projectiles seem to move too slowly for me to backfist through them, and I hate to just sit there and take damage if I somehow get out of range.
If he's predictable enough how about a psychic EX hooligan across the screen?
I'm playing HDR, but I could probably do a hooligan throw and not cancel out of it to sweep him low if I'm close enough and I time it right after the fireball comes out. Or, maybe I could cancel out of it and do a low to high combo. As you all can see, I have no clue what I'm doing but I'm having fun.
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I've played against good makotos (not me, I'm crap.) and believe me she can be really good.
The best way to deal with mashing spamming scrubs is to play it safe.
Block when in doubt. Try to bait shoryukens and ultras, especially after a knockdown or a successful combo. Don't take risks, and don't assume they've learned from their mistakes. Wait for them to do something unsafe and punish it. If they're a shoto, don't try to pressure them with mindgames, because they're playing
mindlessly. Bait and punish, and use good pokes and anti airs to zone them out and get them frustrated.
Block/punish all day erryday
Pretty much correct on all points. Playing a significantly weaker player in an exercise in fundamentals, and block/punish. Don't get greedy though, it could cause you to eat wakeup ultra.
In my experience, scrubs will very consistently do a wakeup reversal of some kind nearly every time they get knocked down
If they have Ultra, just assume they'll wake up with it
I usually just walk up to their prone body and block low, and they usually do something stupid that I can punish
Cammy doesn't have one
If it's apparent I'm playing against a scrub, I'll just FADC with a backwards dash
EDIT: I wonder if her j.LK cross-up is viable against scrub spammers
I usually just play it safe and block/punish
Good call
I always think that sooner or later they're going to stop shoryuken'ing on wakeup(or after everything).
They never do.
Charging and cancelling Abel's Ultra2 or Makoto's Hayate are fan-frickin-tastic against people who don't know what's coming.
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Given Ono's personality i bet he was doing most of the running around and dick punching.
Thank god I'm not the only person who does this. Go to punish a whiffed Shoryuken and hey-ho, followup shoryukjen the face. So fucking annoying.
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Have an easy to do punish dialed, preferably one that knocks down and has decent range. Mashers go down easy so long as you don't lose focus.
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This makes me eat all sorts of fun stuff way more then it works out good for me.
It works for me, but your mileage may vary, and I suppose it is a bad recommendation.
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Holy shit, that last round. With the dizzied Rose in the corner.
Holy shit.
I need to work on my EX strike x3 combo now.
If he's predictable enough how about a psychic EX hooligan across the screen?
I'm playing HDR, but I could probably do a hooligan throw and not cancel out of it to sweep him low if I'm close enough and I time it right after the fireball comes out. Or, maybe I could cancel out of it and do a low to high combo. As you all can see, I have no clue what I'm doing but I'm having fun.
No, I seriously need to catch up with the rest of the world and grab a copy of SSF4.
Yeah, but there was a forth one in there.
The whole match was just pretty.
I have never in my 8000 matches in vanilla encountered a cammy capable of that.
No wonder you were frustrated.
If you get the cheap one you can make it really pretty, swap out the buttons, and change the joystick, and it will still be cheaper than the TE stick.
Buy the TE. It is a fantastic stick.