amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
edited November 2010
Alright, I'm a little confused.
From the "coming up on the walking dead" bit at the end, it looks like they meet up with a small group of people in Atlanta, so rick doesn't just meet the delivery boy. Are they going away from the comics in that aspect?
First of all, well done internet. Glad this thread immediately became about arguing over how a hypothetical zombie apocalypse would go down.
But, as to the bleakness argument -- I don't think AMC is likely to un-bleaken the show relative to the comics. I mean, bleak is sort of AMC's thing. Mad Men is pretty bleak, really, albeit in a very different way. But it's full of bad people who do bad things and never really end up happy. And Breaking Bad is bleaker still -- hell, even the locations are unrelentingly bleak.
It seems like AMC has found an excellent niche of "horrible people doing horrible things in a bleak world where no one ever becomes happy or fulfilled" and they're making some fantastic television while doing it.
Rubicon is probably the most upbeat, happy-go-lucky show on AMC right now -- that should tell you something.
You all are also assuming that soldiers would remain loyal and follow orders instead of opting to go save their families.
It's almost like there are too many variables to consider in a hypothetical situation like a zombie apocalypse that debating about things like military effectiveness is meaningless...
The only satisfying movie zombies vs military thing I've seen is the original 28 days later.
Okay they got razor wire and machineguns, now what do the zombies do? Just get stuck on the razor wire.
Then in 28 weeks later an order of magnitude more American troops with significantly more firepower lose to a single zombie (because they stuck it in a room where they locked every survivor, rather than just telling everyone to shut and lock their doors until the crisis was over)
Don't get me started on Yonkers, contrivance after contrivance
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
I think people will have a harder time finding something to eat, and having clean drinking water than they would fending off zombies. A lot of households live week to week with their food and depend on a running tap for water. If those things go out expect mass looting and concentrations of worked up and desperate people.
Zombies are quite a longshot, but having a stockpile of food and water for an emergency isn't a bad idea if we've learned anything from Katrina.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
Eh, if we're going to be arguing what would happen "in reality" then zombie media exists and everyone knows what a zombie is.
So sure, every hospital, cemetery and morgue becomes ground zero. But the damn logcal police would be sufficient to contain it, nevermind the miltary. There won't be any "oh all these sick people are behaving oddly, let's subdue them, ouch he bit me". From minute one it would be "holy shit is that a zombie?!", head shots and containment. People would hardly even know anything was going on until it was all under control, much less an actual panic. And then it's just headshots to everyone who dies from natural causes from that day forward.
Also, some of you guys have ridiculous opinions regarding the government and military, for one thing no one would desert, even in the event of a full blown zombie apocalypse.
From the "coming up on the walking dead" bit at the end, it looks like they meet up with a small group of people in Atlanta, so rick doesn't just meet the delivery boy. Are they going away from the comics in that aspect?
SPOILER FROM THE COMICS OH GOD DON'T CLICK THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AHHHHHHHH
Yea, it's a deviation. Andrea is part of this new group, when in the comics she's with Amy and the rest of Rick's family.
You all are also assuming that soldiers would remain loyal and follow orders instead of opting to go save their families.
It's almost like there are too many variables to consider in a hypothetical situation like a zombie apocalypse that debating about things like military effectiveness is meaningless...
The only satisfying movie zombies vs military thing I've seen is the original 28 days later.
Okay they got razor wire and machineguns, now what do the zombies do? Just get stuck on the razor wire.
Then in 28 weeks later an order of magnitude more American troops with significantly more firepower lose to a single zombie (because they stuck it in a room where they locked every survivor, rather than just telling everyone to shut and lock their doors until the crisis was over)
Don't get me started on Yonkers, contrivance after contrivance
That really bugged me about 28 Weeks
HEY LETS LOCK EVERYONE IN A DARK BASEMENT WITH A POORLY SEALED BACK DOOR
It makes Ice and Fire look like Lord of the Rings (the movie versions).
Seriously, my mom said the first episode was the most depressing thing she's seen lately and Oh my God I have to hold my tongue.
I'm certain the ratings will hold up on account of zombies, but I wonder if the downward spiral will put off audiences who won't be able to stomach the really, really bad moments.
the trick is to start them off slow and then gradually increase the amount of depressing drip by drip so it is gradula building up a tolerance. then it is full on zombie porn and you are like holy fuck. zombie porn how did it come to this
From the "coming up on the walking dead" bit at the end, it looks like they meet up with a small group of people in Atlanta, so rick doesn't just meet the delivery boy. Are they going away from the comics in that aspect?
SPOILER FROM THE COMICS OH GOD DON'T CLICK THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AHHHHHHHH
Yea, it's a deviation. Andrea is part of this new group, when in the comics she's with Amy and the rest of Rick's family.
Speculation about the preview we saw last night:
Yes, it seems there is a group of survivors hiding out in Atlanta that are a waypoint before Rick finds the camp with his wife and child. I would assume that the asian guy (forgot his name) will be with those survivors, and the majority of them will die trying to reach the camp outside the city. This will probably be the entirety of the next episode, with Rick finding his family at the end of the second episode. Pure speculation on my part, though.
Of course at this rate I wonder how long it'll be before they show the Governor. I'm really curious who they'll cast for him.
Speculation about the Governor [COMIC BOOK SPOILERS] :
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Aw, man, as tantalizing as that would be, I don't want to associate that awesome actor with a character I absolutely abhor (in a fucked up, psychotic way).
Besides, I'm pretty sure the Governor is straight-up Texan, coming from that same hell-bound part of the state as Leatherface and so forth.
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edited November 2010
Another thing I just remembered: man, that hospital looked like it got really fucked up. Both on the inside and outside. From the outside it looked like whole sections caught fire.
Of course at this rate I wonder how long it'll be before they show the Governor. I'm really curious who they'll cast for him.
Speculation about the Governor [COMIC BOOK SPOILERS] :
all of my dicks
Aw, man, as tantalizing as that would be, I don't want to associate that awesome actor with a character I absolutely abhor (in a fucked up, psychotic way).
Besides, I'm pretty sure the Governor is straight-up Texan, coming from that same hell-bound part of the state as Leatherface and so forth.
The Governor also always looked rather thin and lanky to me, while that actor... certainly isn't.
I have absolutely no expectation of seeing the Governor plot line translated 100% faithfully... They are going to get a bunch of letters. I'm expecting tone downs and off screen action that episode.
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I have absolutely no expectation of seeing the Governor plot line translated 100% faithfully... They are going to get a bunch of letters. I'm expecting tone downs and off screen action that episode.
I don't expect them to. It has the potential to make a lot of people physically ill if shown on screen.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
Eh, if we're going to be arguing what would happen "in reality" then zombie media exists and everyone knows what a zombie is.
So sure, every hospital, cemetery and morgue becomes ground zero. But the damn logcal police would be sufficient to contain it, nevermind the miltary. There won't be any "oh all these sick people are behaving oddly, let's subdue them, ouch he bit me". From minute one it would be "holy shit is that a zombie?!", head shots and containment. People would hardly even know anything was going on until it was all under control, much less an actual panic. And then it's just headshots to everyone who dies from natural causes from that day forward.
Also, some of you guys have ridiculous opinions regarding the government and military, for one thing no one would desert, even in the event of a full blown zombie apocalypse.
Ok, no, not everyone knows what a zombie is. And when a local cop sees a zombie shuffling down the hall, what's he going to do? Either shoot it, or not shoot it and do something dumb. If he shoots it, he'll aim for center mass as he is trained to do, which of course won't stop it. If it's a runner, he's dead at this point as it's reached him and bitten.
Zombies -are- a threat in this regard.
Besides, if your wife/mom/sister/girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/bestfriend/daughter/ANY YOUNG CHILD comes sauntering towards you you aren't going to want to shoot them.
Plus, what if there IS a cure. Will you have committed murder at that point? Is that ok with your own personal morality?
When thrust suddenly into a zombie situation, people don't have time to think about those things and are thrown off balance so much that it's easy for them to bite your ass and start the spread.
Plus, is this a rage virus, zombie voodoo, evil scientist, bacteria, what? What creates them? Are they smart? How fast do they run? Do they animate the brain, or muscle tissue? Do only bites transfer, or will them spitting on me give it to me as well?
There's a ton of unknowns. Zombies taking over is entirely possible.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
EVERYONE in walking dead becomes a zombie? Is it airborne or something? Non spoilery as possible.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
Eh, if we're going to be arguing what would happen "in reality" then zombie media exists and everyone knows what a zombie is.
So sure, every hospital, cemetery and morgue becomes ground zero. But the damn logcal police would be sufficient to contain it, nevermind the miltary. There won't be any "oh all these sick people are behaving oddly, let's subdue them, ouch he bit me". From minute one it would be "holy shit is that a zombie?!", head shots and containment. People would hardly even know anything was going on until it was all under control, much less an actual panic. And then it's just headshots to everyone who dies from natural causes from that day forward.
Also, some of you guys have ridiculous opinions regarding the government and military, for one thing no one would desert, even in the event of a full blown zombie apocalypse.
Two weeks ago I would have agreed with you, but not now. Now this is completely anecdotal, but relevant.
I recently went to the 8th Annual Toronto Zombie Walk. Before we joined the horde, a dude walked up to me (keep in mind I was dressed up as a zombie, dripping with fake blood at the time) and asked me what was going on. I told him that it's the zombie walk. He looked at my puzzled and said "Zombies?" in a tone like he didn't know what I was talking about. I then said "It's a Halloween parade.". He then smiled, nodded, thanked me and walked away.
After this happened, I turned to my friends and said "Wow. I guess the movies aren't so wrong afterall. There are people that don't know what zombies were." Then my friend related a story to us about how she had to explain the concept of zombies to her mom.
Sadly, there's lots of people out there who are not in the know... and by the reaction of people at the zombie walk (crowd around, take pictures) a real zombie apocalypse would be a clusterfuck of fail. "Haha! Look at the zombies. I wonder what kind of event this is?" *snaps a pic* *dude gets bit*
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
EVERYONE in walking dead becomes a zombie? Is it airborne or something? Non spoilery as possible.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
EVERYONE in walking dead becomes a zombie? Is it airborne or something? Non spoilery as possible.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
EVERYONE in walking dead becomes a zombie? Is it airborne or something? Non spoilery as possible.
That hasn't been revealed yet.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
From the "coming up on the walking dead" bit at the end, it looks like they meet up with a small group of people in Atlanta, so rick doesn't just meet the delivery boy. Are they going away from the comics in that aspect?
SPOILER FROM THE COMICS OH GOD DON'T CLICK THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AHHHHHHHH
Yea, it's a deviation. Andrea is part of this new group, when in the comics she's with Amy and the rest of Rick's family.
Speculation about the preview we saw last night:
Yes, it seems there is a group of survivors hiding out in Atlanta that are a waypoint before Rick finds the camp with his wife and child. I would assume that the asian guy (forgot his name) will be with those survivors, and the majority of them will die trying to reach the camp outside the city. This will probably be the entirety of the next episode, with Rick finding his family at the end of the second episode. Pure speculation on my part, though.
Okay, just making sure I wasn't missing something there.
Also, did anyone else think that.
When rick gave the guns to the man and his son, and he walked upstairs and positioned the chair, he was going to kill himself and/or the kid? Even having read the books I was on the edge of my seat there.
The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
EVERYONE in walking dead becomes a zombie? Is it airborne or something? Non spoilery as possible.
Zombie wizards
I just spat tea all over myself! well done sir! well done. on a side not I HAVE to pick that compendium up.
If I could inject myself with this show, I would. The pilot was unbelievably good, and I can't wait until the next episode. One half of me wishes I didn't read the comics, so all the content to come would be new to me. Though the other half of me is still glad, because the comics are great. Though I guess since they're going to stray a little, there'll be some surprises in store.
This is the first show my friends and I have all agreed was awesome, since Dexter.
Caught this last night and enjoyed it. A little gory for me but I'll probably stick with it. I'm not a huge Zombie fan, but I am a fan of good writing, so we'll see.
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Didn't have high expectations and still felt kind of meh at the end. It dragged at times, nothing particularly memorable in the music or performances, though I liked the hospital scene. Nothing really glaringly wrong, just didn't dig it much.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
From the "coming up on the walking dead" bit at the end, it looks like they meet up with a small group of people in Atlanta, so rick doesn't just meet the delivery boy. Are they going away from the comics in that aspect?
SPOILER FROM THE COMICS OH GOD DON'T CLICK THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AHHHHHHHH
Yea, it's a deviation. Andrea is part of this new group, when in the comics she's with Amy and the rest of Rick's family.
Speculation about the preview we saw last night:
Yes, it seems there is a group of survivors hiding out in Atlanta that are a waypoint before Rick finds the camp with his wife and child. I would assume that the asian guy (forgot his name) will be with those survivors, and the majority of them will die trying to reach the camp outside the city. This will probably be the entirety of the next episode, with Rick finding his family at the end of the second episode. Pure speculation on my part, though.
SPOILER because I saw the beginning of Episode 2 at New York Comic-Con.
The guy on the radio was Glenn. He helps Rick escape the tank by letting him know the zombies are preoccupied with the horse carcass. He tells Rick what side of the street to run down and meets up with him a little later. They go up a fire escape, jump a roof, and go down the stairs of a department store. They meet up with said group on the ground floor, where Andrea is pissed because with all their shenanigans, they attracted a horde to their location.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
The Mist is great, but it became one of my favorites when I watched the Black-and-White Director's Version. It looks so much better in black-and-white.
I knew Frank Darabont was the perfect choice for The Walking Dead going into last night, but until I watched I had no idea just HOW perfect he was for the project.
I'm in for the long haul. AMC is the king of cable drama at this point.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
My dad told me he watched this the other day and the ending, in his words "Fucked him up for awhile."
This is coming from a man that was a cop for 42 years and has seen all sorts of unspeakable horrors. Stephen King is one twisted man.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
My dad told me he watched this the other day and the ending, in his words "Fucked him up for awhile."
This is coming from a man that was a cop for 42 years and has seen all sorts of unspeakable horrors. Stephen King is one twisted man.
That's not King's ending.
Darabont CHANGED King's ending because he didn't think it was tragic enough.
Don't get me wrong, Stephen King *is* one twisted man, but yea he didn't make that ending. The original ending in the novel was just them driving off into the mist. Kinda lame, if you ask me.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
The Mist is great, but it became one of my favorites when I watched the Black-and-White Director's Version. It looks so much better in black-and-white.
I knew Frank Darabont was the perfect choice for The Walking Dead going into last night, but until I watched I had no idea just HOW perfect he was for the project.
I'm in for the long haul. AMC is the king of cable drama at this point.
I look forward to the Emmy's being renamed the "AMC and maybe HBO" awards.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
The Mist is great, but it became one of my favorites when I watched the Black-and-White Director's Version. It looks so much better in black-and-white.
I knew Frank Darabont was the perfect choice for The Walking Dead going into last night, but until I watched I had no idea just HOW perfect he was for the project.
I'm in for the long haul. AMC is the king of cable drama at this point.
I look forward to the Emmy's being renamed the "AMC and maybe HBO" awards.
Don't get me wrong, Stephen King *is* one twisted man, but yea he didn't make that ending. The original ending in the novel was just them driving off into the mist. Kinda lame, if you ask me.
I was just pointing it out because it builds even more toward the "Frank Darabont can handle the tone of this series" argument.
I saw The Mist last week, and after that ending I'm fairly convinced that Frank Darabont is a master at making things depressing.
That ending, holllyyyy shit.
LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
My dad told me he watched this the other day and the ending, in his words "Fucked him up for awhile."
This is coming from a man that was a cop for 42 years and has seen all sorts of unspeakable horrors. Stephen King is one twisted man.
That's not King's ending.
Darabont CHANGED King's ending because he didn't think it was tragic enough.
Oh... huh. I didn't know that.
Well, the point still stands. That ending unnerved someone who has investigated murder/suicides similar to this in real life.
Kinda pissed at myself. I could have sworn I set the DVR to record this last night and I did not. Anyone know if/when they are doing an encore presentation?
Kinda pissed at myself. I could have sworn I set the DVR to record this last night and I did not. Anyone know if/when they are doing an encore presentation?
1 AM tonight on AMC.
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The government couldn't even respond to a fucking hurricane before an entire city obliterated itself. If you think they could respond to every city in the country self-destructing at the same time, you are on some serious drugs.
By the time the army was mobilized and responded, it would be too late. There wouldn't be a country left to defend. And that's not even counting the fact that the soldiers themselves are more than likely going to say "fuck your orders, i'm going to save grandma."
Yeah, let's keep in mind here
that this didn't start as an isolated incident. Everybody that dies in this universe, becomes a zombie. That means that at some point, some switch was flipped, and suddenly the hospitals in every city across the US became their own ground zeros. Who knows how many staff and patients were bitten, and in turn infected and zombified before the military were even called in.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
EVERYONE in walking dead becomes a zombie? Is it airborne or something? Non spoilery as possible.
That hasn't been revealed yet.
I've read to comic #84, general spoilery discussion with that in mind:
We only THINK from observation that EVERYONE who dies comes back. It could just as easily be that (like Pony said a few pages back) the Zombie gore is enough to infect so that post-death you become one of them. So someone who never got gored, might just die naturally. That's what I like about the series- there hasn't been some "oh-this-is-how-it-all-really-is speech, just a lot of piecing together from experience (like the "sick" zombies!)
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But, as to the bleakness argument -- I don't think AMC is likely to un-bleaken the show relative to the comics. I mean, bleak is sort of AMC's thing. Mad Men is pretty bleak, really, albeit in a very different way. But it's full of bad people who do bad things and never really end up happy. And Breaking Bad is bleaker still -- hell, even the locations are unrelentingly bleak.
It seems like AMC has found an excellent niche of "horrible people doing horrible things in a bleak world where no one ever becomes happy or fulfilled" and they're making some fantastic television while doing it.
Rubicon is probably the most upbeat, happy-go-lucky show on AMC right now -- that should tell you something.
The only satisfying movie zombies vs military thing I've seen is the original 28 days later.
Okay they got razor wire and machineguns, now what do the zombies do? Just get stuck on the razor wire.
Then in 28 weeks later an order of magnitude more American troops with significantly more firepower lose to a single zombie (because they stuck it in a room where they locked every survivor, rather than just telling everyone to shut and lock their doors until the crisis was over)
Don't get me started on Yonkers, contrivance after contrivance
I think people will have a harder time finding something to eat, and having clean drinking water than they would fending off zombies. A lot of households live week to week with their food and depend on a running tap for water. If those things go out expect mass looting and concentrations of worked up and desperate people.
Zombies are quite a longshot, but having a stockpile of food and water for an emergency isn't a bad idea if we've learned anything from Katrina.
Eh, if we're going to be arguing what would happen "in reality" then zombie media exists and everyone knows what a zombie is.
So sure, every hospital, cemetery and morgue becomes ground zero. But the damn logcal police would be sufficient to contain it, nevermind the miltary. There won't be any "oh all these sick people are behaving oddly, let's subdue them, ouch he bit me". From minute one it would be "holy shit is that a zombie?!", head shots and containment. People would hardly even know anything was going on until it was all under control, much less an actual panic. And then it's just headshots to everyone who dies from natural causes from that day forward.
Also, some of you guys have ridiculous opinions regarding the government and military, for one thing no one would desert, even in the event of a full blown zombie apocalypse.
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Aw, man, as tantalizing as that would be, I don't want to associate that awesome actor with a character I absolutely abhor (in a fucked up, psychotic way).
Besides, I'm pretty sure the Governor is straight-up Texan, coming from that same hell-bound part of the state as Leatherface and so forth.
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The Governor also always looked rather thin and lanky to me, while that actor... certainly isn't.
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I don't expect them to. It has the potential to make a lot of people physically ill if shown on screen.
Ok, no, not everyone knows what a zombie is. And when a local cop sees a zombie shuffling down the hall, what's he going to do? Either shoot it, or not shoot it and do something dumb. If he shoots it, he'll aim for center mass as he is trained to do, which of course won't stop it. If it's a runner, he's dead at this point as it's reached him and bitten.
Zombies -are- a threat in this regard.
Besides, if your wife/mom/sister/girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/bestfriend/daughter/ANY YOUNG CHILD comes sauntering towards you you aren't going to want to shoot them.
Plus, what if there IS a cure. Will you have committed murder at that point? Is that ok with your own personal morality?
When thrust suddenly into a zombie situation, people don't have time to think about those things and are thrown off balance so much that it's easy for them to bite your ass and start the spread.
Plus, is this a rage virus, zombie voodoo, evil scientist, bacteria, what? What creates them? Are they smart? How fast do they run? Do they animate the brain, or muscle tissue? Do only bites transfer, or will them spitting on me give it to me as well?
There's a ton of unknowns. Zombies taking over is entirely possible.
I haven't gotten far enough in the comic, but can someone explain why it is that
Two weeks ago I would have agreed with you, but not now. Now this is completely anecdotal, but relevant.
I recently went to the 8th Annual Toronto Zombie Walk. Before we joined the horde, a dude walked up to me (keep in mind I was dressed up as a zombie, dripping with fake blood at the time) and asked me what was going on. I told him that it's the zombie walk. He looked at my puzzled and said "Zombies?" in a tone like he didn't know what I was talking about. I then said "It's a Halloween parade.". He then smiled, nodded, thanked me and walked away.
After this happened, I turned to my friends and said "Wow. I guess the movies aren't so wrong afterall. There are people that don't know what zombies were." Then my friend related a story to us about how she had to explain the concept of zombies to her mom.
Sadly, there's lots of people out there who are not in the know... and by the reaction of people at the zombie walk (crowd around, take pictures) a real zombie apocalypse would be a clusterfuck of fail. "Haha! Look at the zombies. I wonder what kind of event this is?" *snaps a pic* *dude gets bit*
Please don't be kidding.
That hasn't been revealed yet.
Okay, just making sure I wasn't missing something there.
Also, did anyone else think that.
I just spat tea all over myself! well done sir! well done. on a side not I HAVE to pick that compendium up.
This is the first show my friends and I have all agreed was awesome, since Dexter.
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LTTP, but I watched this with my family (second time for me), and while they were pretty lukewarm towards the bulk of the movie, their facial expressions during the last like 10 minutes of the movie was sooooo worth it. The dawning look of horror on my brother's face was just priceless.
Also, I'm pissed I missed this premiere because even though I get AMC, I totally forgot it was going to be on. Going from having DVR to no DVR sucks hardcore.
SPOILER because I saw the beginning of Episode 2 at New York Comic-Con.
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The Mist is great, but it became one of my favorites when I watched the Black-and-White Director's Version. It looks so much better in black-and-white.
I knew Frank Darabont was the perfect choice for The Walking Dead going into last night, but until I watched I had no idea just HOW perfect he was for the project.
I'm in for the long haul. AMC is the king of cable drama at this point.
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My dad told me he watched this the other day and the ending, in his words "Fucked him up for awhile."
This is coming from a man that was a cop for 42 years and has seen all sorts of unspeakable horrors. Stephen King is one twisted man.
That's not King's ending.
Darabont CHANGED King's ending because he didn't think it was tragic enough.
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I look forward to the Emmy's being renamed the "AMC and maybe HBO" awards.
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House is awesome. Do not forget that.
But yeah, all other shows can fuck off.
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I was just pointing it out because it builds even more toward the "Frank Darabont can handle the tone of this series" argument.
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Oh... huh. I didn't know that.
Well, the point still stands. That ending unnerved someone who has investigated murder/suicides similar to this in real life.
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I've read to comic #84, general spoilery discussion with that in mind: