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Yeah, "released for businesses" means they are allowing corporations that purchase business licenses to start upgrading their machines and networks to Vista, and has allowed that for the last month or more.
It doesn't mean there is a business-grade product out for consumer purchase.
I have a friend who works for the state doing IT (California) and they've gotten in copies of vista. He says the chess game that's included is really nice.
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I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.
Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?
I'm taking CS courses and got Win XP pro on disc free (along with Visual Studio.Net and Office Suite). I gave it to my friend when I built him a new system.
Problem is, my school is slow to upgrade. They told us not to upgrade to the newest IE and Reader because their software isn't compatiable.
Uhh. Could I buy a Vista for Business at the local Fry's?
No. We're holding till the 30th.
Vista Business and "business sales channel" are two different things. It's available now through volume licensing: 5+ media-less licenses or more. Vista Business through the retail channel will be available the 30th.
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edited January 2007
Here's the easy breakdown:
1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate
2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate
3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.
4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
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1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate
2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate
3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.
4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.
I agree, in that people won't really know what to buy. The saving grace, though, and I'm happy that Microsoft *finally* did this, is that you can pay to upgrade your current Vista to a more advanced one, without having to reinstall the OS or buy an entire new version. So if you need one feature that's offered at the next step up, you don't need to worry about knowing that at the time of purchase.
Not that it doesn't mean that Microsoft did what it did entirely as a money grab.
Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of
Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?
No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).
Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of
Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?
No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).
Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.
That's true as long as you have a prior OS disc (95, 98, ME, XP, 2000) it'll allow you to do a fresh install. This check occurs when you boot from the disc just before you format and install.
Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of
Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?
No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).
Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.
Right, but as far as I know, it doesn't allow you to do a fresh install w/o reformating, AND allow you to keep the old OS as-is and bootable (in case something weird happens or you just don't like it).
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1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate
2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate
3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.
4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.
Won't Business have everything that Home Premium has, except Medie Center? I hope, since that's the version I'm getting for free thank's to the Powertogether workshop.
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It's been so long since I've posted here, I've removed my signature since most of what I had here were broken links. Shows over, you can carry on to the next post.
Ok I have a media center edition that came on my XPS laptop. I didn't get a disc. So what would happen if I install Vista on it?
Also I'm going to build a new PC in the Fall can I still use the Vista disc that I get now or would I need a whole new copy?
You should be able to use the same install disc to install Vista, but you need to buy another CD Key from Microsoft to use it legally (If you're going to run both installs at the same time).
If you're going to remove Vista from the laptop, and install Vista on the new PC you're going to build, then you could use the same CD Key.
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It's been so long since I've posted here, I've removed my signature since most of what I had here were broken links. Shows over, you can carry on to the next post.
Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of
Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?
No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).
Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.
What if I don't happen to have the CD but my "certificate of authenticity is emblazoned onto my laptop's undercarriage?
Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of
Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?
No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).
Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.
What if I don't happen to have the CD but my "certificate of authenticity is emblazoned onto my laptop's undercarriage?
I'm pretty sure you only need the number on that "certificate", but don't quote me on that.
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EDIT: Not before the 30th, of course.
It doesn't mean there is a business-grade product out for consumer purchase.
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strange that only the upgrade version comes with that.
btw. supposedly you'll be able to acquire it (legally) via an internet download; it won't be cheaper or anything though.
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Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?
You do know that there is already adiscount if your upgrading your windows XP to vista, right?
I'm a business major and I can get XP Pro for 10 bucks
*shrug*
I honestly don't know.
I'm taking CS courses and got Win XP pro on disc free (along with Visual Studio.Net and Office Suite). I gave it to my friend when I built him a new system.
Problem is, my school is slow to upgrade. They told us not to upgrade to the newest IE and Reader because their software isn't compatiable.
Vista Business and "business sales channel" are two different things. It's available now through volume licensing: 5+ media-less licenses or more. Vista Business through the retail channel will be available the 30th.
1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate
2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate
3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.
4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.
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I need to go ask my college about this shit. I didn't know you could get it for that cheap!
I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of
What a clusterfuck.
Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?
If you don't want it, I'll take it. Free Vista is good Vista.
I agree, in that people won't really know what to buy. The saving grace, though, and I'm happy that Microsoft *finally* did this, is that you can pay to upgrade your current Vista to a more advanced one, without having to reinstall the OS or buy an entire new version. So if you need one feature that's offered at the next step up, you don't need to worry about knowing that at the time of purchase.
Not that it doesn't mean that Microsoft did what it did entirely as a money grab.
No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).
Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
Right, but as far as I know, it doesn't allow you to do a fresh install w/o reformating, AND allow you to keep the old OS as-is and bootable (in case something weird happens or you just don't like it).
Won't Business have everything that Home Premium has, except Medie Center? I hope, since that's the version I'm getting for free thank's to the Powertogether workshop.
Also I'm going to build a new PC in the Fall can I still use the Vista disc that I get now or would I need a whole new copy?
You should be able to use the same install disc to install Vista, but you need to buy another CD Key from Microsoft to use it legally (If you're going to run both installs at the same time).
If you're going to remove Vista from the laptop, and install Vista on the new PC you're going to build, then you could use the same CD Key.
What if I don't happen to have the CD but my "certificate of authenticity is emblazoned onto my laptop's undercarriage?
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I'm pretty sure you only need the number on that "certificate", but don't quote me on that.