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Is Vista Out?

powersspowerss Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
I know this seems like a retarded question. Is vista out right now? could I go to a store and pick up a copy?

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  • ZellZell Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    No.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    January 30th.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    As far as I know, it's out for businesses, and coming out for everyone else on January 30th.

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Uhh. Could I buy a Vista for Business at the local Fry's?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    powerss wrote:
    Uhh. Could I buy a Vista for Business at the local Fry's?

    Probably.

    EDIT: Not before the 30th, of course.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, "released for businesses" means they are allowing corporations that purchase business licenses to start upgrading their machines and networks to Vista, and has allowed that for the last month or more.

    It doesn't mean there is a business-grade product out for consumer purchase.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This thread makes me proud to have spent a large chunk of my life living in Fremont.

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  • SuperunknownSuperunknown Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pancake wrote:
    This thread makes me proud to have spent a large chunk of my life living in Fremont.

    I don't get it.

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pancake wrote:
    This thread makes me proud to have spent a large chunk of my life living in Fremont.

    I hate this city.

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  • fogeymanfogeyman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pancake wrote:
    This thread makes me proud to have spent a large chunk of my life living in Fremont.
    I don't get it and I live in Fremont.

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  • Akilae729Akilae729 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    Pancake wrote:
    This thread makes me proud to have spent a large chunk of my life living in Fremont.
    I don't get it and I live in Fremont.

    This Fremont?

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  • robaalrobaal Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Heh, Amazon has Vista Ultimate "signature edition" - signed by Bill Gates' :o
    strange that only the upgrade version comes with that.

    btw. supposedly you'll be able to acquire it (legally) via an internet download; it won't be cheaper or anything though.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I've got a free upgrade coming in the mail eventually... not sure that I'll ever actually use it. Might be more trouble than it's worth.

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  • fogeymanfogeyman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.

    Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.

    Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?

    You do know that there is already adiscount if your upgrading your windows XP to vista, right?

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.

    Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?

    I'm a business major and I can get XP Pro for 10 bucks

    *shrug*

    I honestly don't know.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.

    Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?

    I'm a business major and I can get XP Pro for 10 bucks

    *shrug*

    I honestly don't know.
    I got XP Pro for free as a downloadable. $16 for a hard-copy of both the regular and 64 bit editions.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    powerss wrote:
    Uhh. Could I buy a Vista for Business at the local Fry's?
    No. We're holding till the 30th.

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  • TheMorningStarTheMorningStar Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I have a friend who works for the state doing IT (California) and they've gotten in copies of vista. He says the chess game that's included is really nice.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.

    Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?

    I'm taking CS courses and got Win XP pro on disc free (along with Visual Studio.Net and Office Suite). I gave it to my friend when I built him a new system.

    Problem is, my school is slow to upgrade. They told us not to upgrade to the newest IE and Reader because their software isn't compatiable.

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  • MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    variant wrote:
    powerss wrote:
    Uhh. Could I buy a Vista for Business at the local Fry's?
    No. We're holding till the 30th.

    Vista Business and "business sales channel" are two different things. It's available now through volume licensing: 5+ media-less licenses or more. Vista Business through the retail channel will be available the 30th.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    edited January 2007
    Here's the easy breakdown:

    1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate

    2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate

    3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.

    4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What are the huge gains for ultimate that aren't there in Home Premium?

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What are the huge gains for ultimate that aren't there in Home Premium?

    BOP'd :oops:

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    I plan to buy Vista as soon as I can. Problem is, I can't get it at full price. I have to hope my brother can get it cheaper through college.

    Do those discounts usually only come to students majoring in a tech field or can any student get it (assuming the college offers it)?

    I'm a business major and I can get XP Pro for 10 bucks

    *shrug*

    I honestly don't know.

    I need to go ask my college about this shit. I didn't know you could get it for that cheap!

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    syndalis wrote:
    Here's the easy breakdown:

    1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate

    2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate

    3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.

    4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.

    What a clusterfuck.
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

    Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I've got a free upgrade coming in the mail eventually... not sure that I'll ever actually use it. Might be more trouble than it's worth.

    If you don't want it, I'll take it. Free Vista is good Vista.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    syndalis wrote:
    Here's the easy breakdown:

    What a clusterfuck.

    I agree, in that people won't really know what to buy. The saving grace, though, and I'm happy that Microsoft *finally* did this, is that you can pay to upgrade your current Vista to a more advanced one, without having to reinstall the OS or buy an entire new version. So if you need one feature that's offered at the next step up, you don't need to worry about knowing that at the time of purchase.

    Not that it doesn't mean that Microsoft did what it did entirely as a money grab.
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

    Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?

    No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).

    Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.

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  • fogeymanfogeyman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    EggyToast wrote:
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

    Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?

    No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).

    Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
    The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.

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  • MerovingiMerovingi regular
    edited January 2007
    That's true as long as you have a prior OS disc (95, 98, ME, XP, 2000) it'll allow you to do a fresh install. This check occurs when you boot from the disc just before you format and install.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    EggyToast wrote:
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

    Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?

    No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).

    Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
    The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.

    Right, but as far as I know, it doesn't allow you to do a fresh install w/o reformating, AND allow you to keep the old OS as-is and bootable (in case something weird happens or you just don't like it).

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Might as well add this in here. Recent magazine interview from EDGE with Gabe Newell of Valve.
    Edge wrote:
    How significant is the arrival of Windows Vista for you?
    Gabe Newell: Right now I think we're sort of focused on how painful Vista is for our customers. SLI is not supported yet, there are no 8800 drivers, so even thought it's about DX10, the only DX10 hardware doesn't have drivers for it yet. Limited user accounts are very frustrating. It seems that in some wats Vista is very much a work in progress, so it's nice that there are going to be end caps for customers in retailer stores. However, for our customers, the sort of key features they already have in XP are going to make it hard for people to migrate over to VIsta at the moment. It really puts a drag on Microsoft's attempts to position Vista as a great gaming platform when there are so many nuts-and-bolts issues that it fails on in comparison to XP.

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    syndalis wrote:
    Here's the easy breakdown:

    1) If you are on a complex network with multiple servers, you need either Business or Ultimate

    2) If you are a gamer / modder who wants a "leet" desktop (the mods for aeroglass are going to be awesome, and I cannot wait to see the desktop thread), then get Home Premium, or Ultimate

    3) If you are a media Center buff who will want to use managed copy, cableCARD, etc... buy a new Media PC with OCUR in it... and it will come with ultimate.

    4) If all you are going to do is play games and run apps on a very basic network, with no real intentions of doing anything media center, multi-server, or aeroglass related, then get home basic.

    Won't Business have everything that Home Premium has, except Medie Center? I hope, since that's the version I'm getting for free thank's to the Powertogether workshop.

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  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Ok I have a media center edition that came on my XPS laptop. I didn't get a disc. So what would happen if I install Vista on it?

    Also I'm going to build a new PC in the Fall can I still use the Vista disc that I get now or would I need a whole new copy?

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Ok I have a media center edition that came on my XPS laptop. I didn't get a disc. So what would happen if I install Vista on it?

    Also I'm going to build a new PC in the Fall can I still use the Vista disc that I get now or would I need a whole new copy?

    You should be able to use the same install disc to install Vista, but you need to buy another CD Key from Microsoft to use it legally (If you're going to run both installs at the same time).

    If you're going to remove Vista from the laptop, and install Vista on the new PC you're going to build, then you could use the same CD Key.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fogeyman wrote:
    EggyToast wrote:
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

    Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?

    No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).

    Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
    The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.

    What if I don't happen to have the CD but my "certificate of authenticity is emblazoned onto my laptop's undercarriage?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    TheLong wrote:
    fogeyman wrote:
    EggyToast wrote:
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    Rohan wrote:
    Dublo7 wrote:
    Hmm, my dad's new laptop gets a free upgrade to Vista when it comes out. Maybe I should steal it from him...

    The upgrade path isn't the greatest choice to make... it's much better to just install it afresh.

    I agree because on a reformat you'll have to do like double the work kind of

    Vista doesn't have an archive and install option?

    No, because its install files aren't text-based. That's not to say that you couldn't historically simply "overwrite" your current install, but then you're screwed if it doesn't work. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it offers a similar functionality for SP1, 2, or the upgrade options (from home basic to more advanced versions).

    Installation has a GUI finally, too, so hopefully won't be nearly as obtuse as the text-based ones of the past. I hope so, at least. For that amount of money, it better have no problems at all.
    The upgrade version of Vista still lets you do a fresh install. It only requires that you have your XP CD on hand to prove that you own XP.

    What if I don't happen to have the CD but my "certificate of authenticity is emblazoned onto my laptop's undercarriage?

    I'm pretty sure you only need the number on that "certificate", but don't quote me on that.

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