[FFXIV] Things are starting to shape up!

Bremen

Fryhole wrote: »

I've been holding onto a theory that the PC release is more or less a beta test leading up to the PS3 release, and this just seems to confirm that.

Now if I could only stop being so indecisive and create a character. =/
I will be joining you guys on Wutai.

While I thought the same thing at first, a lot of the changes they're promising like map scrolling with the mouse or clicking on the party list to target party members (healer love!) are useless to the PS3 version. My new theory is that they originally planned on the PC version to be a beta test for PS3, but got so many subscribers they're racing to hold onto them.

Darkewolfe

So, I registered with that clickandbuy or whatever the fuck it is, then cancelled my Final Fantasy account without ever paying it. Today they put like six charges of $2.40 through on my account, refunding some of them, which flagged my account and got me a call from my credit card company. They have no option to remove your credit card info or anything like that, and they don't provide any contact info for your credit card company's fraud department.

Also, my credit card company ended up deciding that it must have been my fault I got charged, because the lady I was talking to "knows there's some stuff on the internet where you think it's free but it's not." No matter how much I tried to explain to her that the company wasn't authorized to make any charges to my credit card.

Stolls

Man, I'm too busy to log in for a few days and resign myself to XIV getting slow, incremental updates several months from now, then I come back to updates all over the place and a free extra month of play.

I mean, they have a ways to go yet, but still it's nice to be pleasantly surprised for a change.

And now, back to the intricacies of making honey without blowing it up.

Professor Snugglesworth

Just_Bri_Thanks wrote: »

Brass wrote: »

And lol, SE listening?? The game must be doing worse than I thought.

Jebus, some people can make anything into a negative!

Speaking purely as a big SE fan, they are and have been frustratingly hard-headed about things. You should read stories on how they treat other game journalists. It's the equivalent of them standing on a pedestal stating "Fuck your smelly fanboy bullshit. You don't deserve to play our awesome games, but we're willing to let you have a taste of our greatness. Make sure you wash up first."

So it is encouraging to hear that they're going to make a conscious effort to fix things, but like the above poster said, it could be a result of the game ending up far more negative than they planned.

I really have to wonder why they simply didn't include everything that was up to date and functional with FFXI and just apply it to this new game? Why in the world would it be missing features?

If they're smart, they'll go to great lengths to build up the PS3 launch as "FFXIV 2.0".

Greg USN

ostermei wrote: »

I LIKED FF13. I know I'm in the minority and will probably be castigated for mentioning it, but I thought it was tremendously fun. You just have to go into it realizing that it's going to be different than what came before. I LIKE FF14. Yes, there are absolutely rough edges to it, there's not a single person in the world who can claim it's anything like perfect. But, to me, it's fun. It's "something (I) like."

Hey i got 1000/1000 on FFXIII, It not perfect but i don't get the hate. I liked it a lot


Edit: Great TOTP or GREATEST TOTP?

Silas Brown

I'm at work so I can't do a proper lookup. Are there any disciplines that cast Haste and/or Slow spells?

Bremen

Thamaturge gets slow, maybe haste.

Brass

Delphinidaes wrote: »

Just_Bri_Thanks wrote: »

Brass wrote: »

And lol, SE listening?? The game must be doing worse than I thought.

Jebus, some people can make anything into a negative!

Exactly the point I made in the last thread. It doesn't matter if SE makes all the right decisions, or listens, or suddenly makes the game perfect. People like Brass will always have this response.

Nope, they made one right decision. If they made all the right decisions, listened, or made the game perfect I would absolutely have nothing to poke a hole into. I would truly love for FFXIV to be what FFXI is at the very least. Not a perfect game but a playable one. If you think I am hating for the sake of hating, I am definitely not. I just need to balance out people like you who think it's blasphemy to speak ill of the great Square-Enix and their god-child FFXIV.


You should check out the other point made in the last thread about stockholm syndrome. It's like SE has been beating you for weeks but they throw you a bone and you come crawling back.

I am just skeptical, that's all. I really doubt they are making changes because they want to, I think it's because they have to if they want to turn a profit. This feedback has been around since before the game released, but they wait until now to do something about it. It's not coincidence.

I will say that it's great that they are making changes that people want. Inventory sorting is awesome, but it's just another great thing about FFXI they didn't bring over for some reason.

Jadaen Jax

I hope this is the right place to post this, I am looking for a linkshell to join, and a friend told me to post ni the forum for an invite. If this is the wrong spot for that, please advise me where to go. Thanks!

ostermei

Jadaen Jax wrote: »

I hope this is the right place to post this, I am looking for a linkshell to join, and a friend told me to post ni the forum for an invite. If this is the wrong spot for that, please advise me where to go. Thanks!

You are in the right spot, my friend. Take a look at the first page... can't recall the post #, but one of Bri's OPs has a list of everyone who's in by forum name/character name and I believe specifies who can invite. Just keep an eye out for one of 'em in game and they'll get you taken care of.

Edit: Post #5

IndieGirl

Per the conversation in the linkshell:

If you're running Windows 7, use this gadget for leve reset timing. This also has moon phase/polarity, day/hour element, and server uptime and is super nice (I just happened to find it while search for the other link and am switching to this) : http://ffxiv.zam.com/wiki/FFXIV_Windows_Gadget

If you're running an older version of Windows, this works and is just a little icon that sits in your systray and pops a bubble when leves reset, or will tell you when they reset if you click it: http://www.mediafire.com/?vbrh57sz80bzpgu

Professor Snugglesworth

Has there been an explanation why quests have reset timers, and why you can't just repeat a quest whenever you want?

I suppose the official explanation would be "So you can try other stuff", but it seems pretty silly to impose this limit considering the game as it stands is bare-bones in content.

Delphinidaes

Professor Snugglesworth wrote: »

Has there been an explanation why quests have reset timers, and why you can't just repeat a quest whenever you want?

I suppose the official explanation would be "So you can try other stuff", but it seems pretty silly to impose this limit considering the game as it stands is bare-bones in content.

The Quest leves are a "bonus" on top of standard grinding mechanics. It's not so you can "try other stuff" it is to offset grinding experience with bonus gil, sp and access to items.

Bremen

Professor Snugglesworth wrote: »

Has there been an explanation why quests have reset timers, and why you can't just repeat a quest whenever you want?

I suppose the official explanation would be "So you can try other stuff", but it seems pretty silly to impose this limit considering the game as it stands is bare-bones in content.

Many of the unpopular features in the game like leve reset timers, anima, guardian's favor, fatigue, etc are all just attempts to do the same thing as WoW's rested exp: provided diminishing returns for longer lengths of playtime. They all do this in various ways; Guardian's favor means if you only do half your leves you get more per leve than if you did all, anima means you have to spend less time travelling if you don't play much, etc.

All told it looks like SE is trying to make the game smooth for people who play 1-2 hours a day, which is probably a decent estimate for casual console players, while allowing more frequent players to accomplish more but not completely outstrip them.

Shorn Scrotum Man

Bremen wrote: »

Professor Snugglesworth wrote: »

Has there been an explanation why quests have reset timers, and why you can't just repeat a quest whenever you want?

I suppose the official explanation would be "So you can try other stuff", but it seems pretty silly to impose this limit considering the game as it stands is bare-bones in content.

Many of the unpopular features in the game like leve reset timers, anima, guardian's favor, fatigue, etc are all just attempts to do the same thing as WoW's rested exp: provided diminishing returns for longer lengths of playtime. They all do this in various ways; Guardian's favor means if you only do half your leves you get more per leve than if you did all, anima means you have to spend less time travelling if you don't play much, etc.

All told it looks like SE is trying to make the game smooth for people who play 1-2 hours a day, which is probably a decent estimate for casual console players, while allowing more frequent players to accomplish more but not completely outstrip them.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me. However, I predict at least one person sounding like this:

Silas Brown

Well, I think I'm officially going to make a new character in Wutai. Not only has my linkshell proven unavailable, they've proven insane as fuck. There's just no reason to stick around Trabia anymore.

Can I... can I play with you guys? *puppy dog eyes*

Just_Bri_Thanks

Sure, the more the merrier. Post your character name so I can add you to my watch list.

a puddle

Wanna hear more about that linkshell, tho.

Just_Bri_Thanks

Ditto.

Silas Brown

Yeah, I'll drop by with a character name once I have one in. Right now I'm dealing with indecision on race and class. It was easier to pick when I knew nothing about the game.

EDIT: Is there any advantage to being in/near a city that has a guild for your discipline?

IndieGirl

Silas Brown wrote: »

Yeah, I'll drop by with a character name once I have one in. Right now I'm dealing with indecision on race and class. It was easier to pick when I knew nothing about the game.

EDIT: Is there any advantage to being in/near a city that has a guild for your discipline?

Your storyline quest and class quests would be in the same city, which would be convenient in my opinion

JoDaddy

I am looking for a linkshell to join, and a friend told me to post in the forum for an invite.

ingame name Jodaddy Whitefang

Classes
Crp 25 Fishing 21 Bot 20 lnc 20 Gld13 Arc10

Silas Brown

Okay, I finally made a character. Name is Mora Promi and I'm wandering around Gridania at the moment.

Kashi

So they're going to add a search function. And item type-designated wards for like every gear slot and item type.

So they're making an auction house that isn't an auction house, just for the sake of it being different.

They could just make an auction house and... yeah, that's all they'd need to do.


That said, the extra free time is amusing, and if they actually update all that junk it might be a game.

Shimazu

I just wanted to post some thanks to the Nice Guys who helped me with my faction leve today, and in doing so launched my Lancer career. We all know the only thing more important than kicking ass is looking good while you do it. I owe you.

Badwrong

So for rank 20 leves, the only marks Ive ever been offered are pugilist guild marks. PUG was the class I picked on character creation, but I'm doing these as a GLA. When I finish the leves it says "Pugilist guild marks X 0" and I get none.

Ive NEVER seen any other guild marks offered to me, no matter which town I do leves in.

So, is there something I gotta do to get a different type of mark?

Just_Bri_Thanks

As I said in game, I am in Orlando for the day. See you duders later.

Shimazu

Badwrong wrote: »

So for rank 20 leves, the only marks Ive ever been offered are pugilist guild marks. PUG was the class I picked on character creation, but I'm doing these as a GLA. When I finish the leves it says "Pugilist guild marks X 0" and I get none.

Ive NEVER seen any other guild marks offered to me, no matter which town I do leves in.

So, is there something I gotta do to get a different type of mark?

I think level 20 leves can offer you guild marks for any job you have over level 10 (at least in my experience, I only have been offered Pugilist, Gladiator, and Marauder), and you must complete the leve on that class to get the marks. I've never been offered anything other than Pugilist marks from 30 leves, and pugilist is my only job over 20. I guess I'll be able to say for certain if that changes when I get a few more levels on my lancer and see a few more resets worth of leves.

Badwrong

Shimazu wrote: »

I think level 20 leves can offer you guild marks for any job you have over level 10 (at least in my experience, I only have been offered Pugilist, Gladiator, and Marauder), and you must complete the leve on that class to get the marks. I've never been offered anything other than Pugilist marks from 30 leves, and pugilist is my only job over 20. I guess I'll be able to say for certain if that changes when I get a few more levels on my lancer and see a few more resets worth of leves.

Thats the thing, its only offered me PUG marks, my PUG is rank 10, but my GLA is 21, still havent gotten a single GLA mark.

edit: oh, now i found a GLA specific quest in the guild... i swear the guy didnt have any quests for me when i checked before at the same level.

IndieGirl

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a puddle

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IndieGirl

So upon puddle's insistence I moved one more time (I had already tried 2/4 fishing holes in Cass Hollow, and since they both yielded the same fish I assumed they would ALL yield the same fish) and started hooking blindfish at the rate of about 6/hr, along with some crimson crayfish and various other weird shit that may or may not turn out to be useful.

Good news, my endeavors have gotten me to r22 fishing, so hopefully I can actually catch one of these stupid fish in the next few days.

Bad news, I die a lot. There's aggro mobs around the spot where I fish and they kill me in 2 shots. I'm vigilant for about 30 mins, then I forget to keep checking my minimap for new dots, and then BAM! So I need to work on that.

AtomBomb

Monza, my UPS tripped and cut power to my PC. Getting a lobby error now, I'll be back in a few (hopefully). Sorry!

Silas Brown

Well I haven't spent much time actually interacting with the linkshell yet, but already you guys have proven way more friendly and helpful than the last linkshell I was in. Thanks for having me along.

Saphier

You can only get marks if you complete the leve with the specified mark class. The mark rewards are prorated by how many of the mobs you kill with that class, so you can't kill all but the last mob and then switch. Also, it includes all mobs in the leve, not just objective mobs. Ie if your objective is to kill 4 imps, you can't go kill the non imps with another class for skill.

neville

I only have about 100k.
I haven't had much luck selling, mostly due to not knowing what prices to use.
I plan on grinding a lot of weaving tonight... maybe making some hemp items, then I'll move on from there.

What should I price the hempen pieces at? Head, body, etc?

Bremen

I usually look for prices on YG and price at about 80% of the lowest there, since if you're crafting the item you usually want it to sell fast (I can easily restock all 10 sales slots each day).

Atreidez

Anyone got a spare buddy key invite? feeling like giving it another go another the disappointing beta experience

Sejarki

Atreidez wrote: »

Anyone got a spare buddy key invite? feeling like giving it another go another the disappointing beta experience

If you were in the Open Beta then not much has changed.

neville

Bri can you give me a sack again?
Someone wanted an invite and I couldnt give one