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Just_Bri_Thanks
Seething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
Seething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
Final Fantasy XIV
MMORPG
Game is live!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JIdpHuLKY&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBol-NJFuA
Screenshots
Story
Men are wont to suffer
And forget wherein they've sinned
Ne'er hearkening black on tragedies past
Lest the Twelve might humble them
- Unknown
Countless moons have waxed and waned since wandering tribes from across Hydaelyn first arrived in Eorzea and settled its untamed lands. The benevolent deities who ruled the empty continent and its surrounding islands were impressed with the resilience of these primitive men and women, and in an act of mercy, each saw fit to ensure their welfare.
These gods and goddesses soon came to be known as the Twelve, and the villages thrived in their light until the land was bespeckled with several independant city-states. Though, where man walks, strife follows, and for generations, these tiny nations carved out a history of blood and betrayal built upon broken oaths and the sunbleached bones of the fallen.
However, the fate of the land would soon change... (read more at http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/)
MMORPG
Game is live!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JIdpHuLKY&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBol-NJFuA
Screenshots
Story
Men are wont to suffer
And forget wherein they've sinned
Ne'er hearkening black on tragedies past
Lest the Twelve might humble them
- Unknown
Countless moons have waxed and waned since wandering tribes from across Hydaelyn first arrived in Eorzea and settled its untamed lands. The benevolent deities who ruled the empty continent and its surrounding islands were impressed with the resilience of these primitive men and women, and in an act of mercy, each saw fit to ensure their welfare.
These gods and goddesses soon came to be known as the Twelve, and the villages thrived in their light until the land was bespeckled with several independant city-states. Though, where man walks, strife follows, and for generations, these tiny nations carved out a history of blood and betrayal built upon broken oaths and the sunbleached bones of the fallen.
However, the fate of the land would soon change... (read more at http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/)
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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The game takes place in a land called Hydaelyn, mainly in a region named Eorzea. What we know so far is that there are 4 major city states, presumably 3 starting cities and one independant nation, much like Final Fantasy XI: Limsa Lominsa, Ul'dah, Gridania, and Ishgard.
*note: what you saw in the alpha videos (http://video.mmosite.com/default.php?controller=resource&action=play&id=13639) took entirely on the southwest island. The map you see when he opens up the map is for that small island only.
Limsa Lominsa
"No man may tread upon me, for I am the sea." -77th Admiral of Limsa Lominsa, N'bolata Tyata
On the southern coast of the island of Vylbrand, under the shadow of ancient cliffs worn by the relentless onslaught of the Rhotano Sea, lies the marine city-state of Limsa Lominsa. Said to be blessed by the goddess of navigation, Llymlaen, the city is spread out over countless tiny islands, each connected by brilliant ivory bridges. It is this that has earned her the name the "Navigator's Veil" from traveling bards who have witnessed the city's beauty from afar... (read more at http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/)
Ul'dah
Everyone here is after something - fame, notoriety, power, money. Me? I'll have the whole bloody lot." - self-made Lalafell and former Syndicate Member, Cicidoa Sosodoa
The bustling commercial hub of Ul'dah sits amid the desolate desert landscape of southern Aldenard. The city is organized strategically around the dome-shaped citadel at its center. Its towering fortifications and protective outer walls are visible for malms in all directions, and serve as a stark deterrent to would-be besiegers... (read more at http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/)
Gridania
"Each tree, each shrub, each leaf, each blade of grass - we treat them as our own sons and duaghters. And for that we are loved by this wood." - master conjurer and prophet, O-Guna-Por
In the eastern reaches of the Aldenard landmass, home to vast, dense woodlands and coursing rivers, lies the forest nation of Gridania. The cityscape is a mosaic of labyrinthine waterways and great wooden structures, so gracefully constructed they seem a part of the surrounding environment... (read more at http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/)
Races
Hyur
- Diversity in Numbers -
Boasting the largest population in Eorzea, the Hyur came from neighboring continents and islands in three great migratory waves. With them they brought a sophisticated technology and complex ethos tempered by the breadth of the outside world. They rapidly became a driving force behind cultural progress, and are now widely attributed with spearheading advances in Eorzean civilization.
One of the Hyur's strengths is the staggering variety of languages and social institutions they exhibit. This is said to account for their firm conviction in individual freedoms, though it also results in a relative lack of solidarity and group cohesion.
Two distinct groups now exist among the Hyur - Highlanders, denizens of mountainous areas, and Midlanders, who reside in lower elevations.
Elezen
- Noble and Refined -
The Elezen are a traditionally nomadic people who in former times claimed sole dominion over Eorzea, their presence predating that of the other races. Believing this prominence to be ordained by the gods, they came to develop an esteemed sense of honor and pride.
Their chracteristically tall, slim physiques and elongated limbs are part of a successful adaptation to the land's various environments. Indeed, it is said that their highly sensitive ears can discern the squeak of a field mouse at a distance of up to several malms.
The Elezen perceived the immigration of the Hyur as tantamount to invasion, and as a result the two share a past plagued by warfare. At present, however, they can be seen coexisting peacefully, the exception being the reclusive Duskwight Elezen.
Lalafell
- More Clever by Half -
The Lalafell were originally a group of agriculturalists inhabiting the fertile islands of the south seas. With the introduction of transmarine commerce, they soon found their way to Eorzea via trade routes. They are now one of the more populous races and are well established throughout the region, though they remain averse to cold climates.
The short, round builds of the Lalafell belie an incredible agility, and their seemingly feeble legs are capable of carrying them long distances over any terrain. Many among them are also known for possessing highly developed and cunning intellects.
The Lalafell place a great deal of significance on familial bonds, but are by no means unfriendly to outsiders. This is evidenced by the fact that they continue to share prosperous relations with all of the other races of Eorzea.
Roegadyn
- Size Matters -
The Roegadyn are a maritime people whose largest concentrations are found in northern seas, by way of which they came to Eorzea.
They possess enormous, muscular builds and are known for the cultural emphasis they place on competition and unflinching courage, through tender, introspective individuals can also be found.
Roegadyn in and around the Limsa Lominsa area are typically seamen putting in at port, but many have also settled permanently becoming mercenaries, bodyguards, or even pirated by trade. Far away, deep in the mountains of Ul'dah, live mountain clans of reclusive Roegadyn known as the Hellsguard, said to have mastered the magical arts.
Miqo'te
- A Tribe of One -
During the Age of Endless Frost, as the seas turned to ice and passage over them became possible, Eorzea saw an influx of foreign fauna to her shores. This in turn brought the hunting tribes which subsisted upon them, the modern descendants of whom are today known as the Miqo'te.
Since then, the Miqo'te have diverged into two physically distinguishable groups--the diurnal Seekers of the Sun and the nocturnal Keepers of the Moon. Both groups share a suberb olfactory sense and powerful leg musculature, results of a long evolution geared towards hunting and predation.
Comparatively few in number, they maintain an insular group mentality, tending to avoid contact with the other races. Many individuals lead isolated lifestyles, even when residing in the more populous cities.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
"To discern the true nature of a man, one need look no further than the palm of his hand." - from Treatise on the Principles of Self-Actualization, RbyLoygg Bbirlonoyn
The Armoury system is one of the foundations of the Final Fantasy XIV experience, simultaneously being both the impetus behind character development and a key factor determining individual gameplay.
By merely equipping any of a variety of weapons or tools, players can instantly change their active skills, thus enabling them to dramatically alter their style of play as well as their character's outward appearance
Disciples of War
Fighters are weapon-masters who live for battle. In English, they will be called "Disciples of War" and have open to them various classes that excel at physical damage. Disciples of War will be able to equip a broad range of weapons, such as swords, spears, axes, katana, daggers, bows and more.
The enduring popularity of the bow is a testament to its elegant design, but this simple weapon would be of little worth without the surpassing skill of those who master it -- the archers.
Projectile techniques such as high-angle fire enable archers to assail their foes with deadly precision even at great distances.
Constant assessment of the battlefield enables them to carefully determine the most advantageous ground from which to loose, as well as the nature of the arrows best suited to their enemy. Together with the longbow sentries of the Elezen military, the shortbow hunters among the Miqo'te are widely regarded as the most skilled with a bow. The guild's teachings cover a variety of projectile weapons, down to the simplest throwing rock.
Archers possess a situational awareness in combat which allows them to assault enemies from great range while simultaneously providing support to their companions.
Though weak at close range limited by their quivers, an archer's expertise in positioning and arrow selection can easily determine the outcome of battle.
Lancer
The strategy of the lancers is to outrange and fluster opponents with their long, two-handed polearms, peppering them with a barrage of thrusting attacks. They are trained with a number of weapons, giving a diversity to their attacks that makes them extremely versatile combatants.
In former times, the longspear saw the most widespread use, due in great part to the influence of the proud lancer legions of Ala Mhigo. Since then, the guild has greatly expanded its armories to include a variety of weaponry, such as the throwing javelin.
By utilizing the long reach of their polearms, lancers are able to deal devastating damage from a position of relative safety.
The battle tactics of the lancers afford them numerous advantages, such as avoiding the ire of enemies and enhancing the attacks of companions.
Gladiator
Gladiators specialize in the handling of all manner of one-handed blades, from daggers to longswords, be they single or double-edged, straight or curved. A defining characteristic of the guild is its emphasis on diverse combat tactics, training its members to bring their martial skills to bear in any situation.
As such, there are practitioners who marry sword with shield, seeking to defend their fellow companions. Others opt for an empty off hand, choosing instead to focus entirely on their sword arm. The gladiator's proficiency with blades also extends to those hurled at range, such as throwing knives.
With their versatile slashing and stabbing attacks, gladiators are adept at dispatching a wide range of opponents.
When armed with sword and shield, they are unmatched at their ability to defend others, as their diverse talents enable them to focus the enemy's wrath upon themselves.
Marauder
The marauder is a combat specialist whose weapon of choice is the greataxe -- a fearsome arm emblematic of Eorzea's pirates. Their approach to battle is one of brute force, relying on strength and steel to crush enemies and sunder weapons.
They are highly sought after for their ferocity and intimidating presence, and are often employed to hunt down monsters plaguing the land, or to turn the tide of battle between warring nations. Throwing axes such as the francisca supplement the marauder's arsenal, making them fearsome adversaries even at range.
While stationary, marauders are able to generate a solid base from which they are able to carry out devastating attacks.
The strength of marauders lies in their ability to control timing and distance to maximize the efficacy of their blows.
Pugilist
The path of the pugilist is one of incessant training aimed at mastering the traditional techniques of hand-to-hand combat. Though they command formidable power when unarmed, they are wont to use metal, leather, and bone weaponry to maximize their destructive potential.
Their preference for fighting at close-quarters makes negotiating distances an absolute necessity. Many among them accomplish this by using throwing weapons such as the chakram to momentarily daze their enemies while they move in for the kill.
Masters of offensive and defensive stances, pugilists continuously adapt their fighting style to best suit their companions as well as their enemies.
Pugilists compensate for a lack of reach and defense with their high maneuverability and cunning techniques that fluster opponents.
Disciples of Magic
Sorcerers wield vessels of magic imbued with great power and harness sorcery to harm and heal. These "Disciples of Magic" will be adept at striking foes with destructive spells and assisting their allies with soothing cantrips. One vessel of magical power that has been revealed is the Staff, with others expected to follow. The way the articles refer to these "weapons" makes it seem that magical weapons will play much less of a physically offensive role, and rather boost the user's powers.
In the hands of a skilled practitioner, thaumaturgy can be a force of terrifying destruction. At the heart of this school of magic lies the ability to call forth and command the latent aether within oneself through deep introspection.
To then mold that aether into sorcery, the thaumaturge makes use of a scepter or staff, within which is housed a medium- a natural stone imbued with magical properties. The guild is centered at the Arrzaneth Ossuary in Ul'dah, within whose hallowed walls are said to reside powers of life, death, and the beyond.
Thaumaturges are unparalleled in their powers of destruction, eclipsing even the Disciples of War.
By enfeebling enemies and enhancing their allies, thaumaturgy can prove to be an invaluable asset, particularly in battles of attrition.
Conjurer
Conjury calls upon elemental forces present in nature and concentrates them to a potency at which spells can be weaved. Through practiced meditation on the essences of creation, conjurers draw forth and absorb aether from their immediate surroundings. A wand or cane made from unworked wood is then utilized to focus the aether until it manifests as the desired spell. The seat of the Conjurers' Guild lies at the Stillglade Fane in Gridania, where the voices of Eorzea's elementals are said to be the most powerful.
Conjurers are trained to coax metaphysical forces forth from the elements which comprise all of creation, allowing them to weave powerful spells.
Attuned to the essence of all things around them, the conjurers' intimacy with all forms of being enables them to shift between both offensive and defensive magic as needed.
Disciples of the Hand
Crafters drive the manufacturing and production side of Eorzea. By equipping various tools, one can enter a number of trades. So far, only two have been revealed, but it is expected they will include many more. Final Fantasy XI, for example, allowed players to practice woodworking, blacksmithing, goldsmithing, clothcrafting, leathercrafting, boneworking, alchemy and cooking.
Masters of Science and Nature, the devilish and the divine, alchemists ensure their livelihood through the transmogrification of mundane materials into wondrous wares--from curative concoctions to potent potables. Upon conducting their symphonies of commixing and combining, distilling and decocting, the impossible waxes possible, and miracles are born.
The Eorzean school only recently came to be recognized in scientific circles as a valid branch of alchemical orthodoxy. It is based on fundamental principles originating in the Near East tradition, but draws heavily upon esoteric elements of both Lalafellin herbalism and Miqo'te occultism as well.
Blacksmith
Oft covered from head to toe in soot and sweat, blacksmiths forge their livings from red-hot steel, ever coaxing the unyielding metal into submission with their tireless poundings. Whether it be smelting an ingot in the fires of a city forge, or hammering the dents from an adventurer's breastplate at a remote aetheryte camp deep in the wilderness, their work knows no boundaries--making smithing one of Eorzea's most widespread professions.
The roots of smithing can be traced back to Hydaelyn's bronze era. It was during this period that a system of prenticeship was established, ensuring the methods of this art would be passed along to future generations. And while these basic techniques have survived the ages, countless different branches of smithing, including gunsmithing, have emerged in recent years, further broadening the scope of this ancient trade.
Culinarian
Whetting appetites from dawn until dusk with prowess of pot and pan, culinarians provide more than simple sustenance. Armed with a cornucopia of ingredients from across the realm, and versed in methods from the far corners of Hydaelyn, these master chefs help adventurers maintain their strength on the battlefield, bringing truth to the age-old adage that the road to victory truly does run through one's stomach.
Although an established trade far before recorded history, it wasn't until half a century ago when Limsa Lominsan admiral and self-proclaimed gourmand, Ghuolskyf Bhaldwaensyn, known by the masses as "Mastcleaver," put forth a thalassocratic decree proclaiming the culinary arts as a guildworthy craft. Henceforth, it has been recognized across Eorzea as a legitimate member of the Tradescraft Society -- its recipe compendiums now grace the shelves of every librarium in the realm.
Tanner
Contrary to popular belief, a tanner's skills are not limited to the mere boiling and dying of pelts and skins, but also encompass those of an armourer and clothier, for a true leatherworker would never entrust his hides to the hands of another. Perhaps a tanner's most arduous and time-consuming task is procuring the various coats and furs necessary for his trade, which is the reason why many who choose this profession tend to dabble in hunting and trapping as well.
The Elezen have long been known for their skill in leathercrafting, yet for centuries their techniques were heavily guarded. However, when dwindling numbers of guildmasters were threatened with the disappearance of their immense wealth of compiled knowledge, Elezen leatherworkers set aside pride and reluctantly began revealing those techniques to a select few. As a result, the quality of Eorzean-made leather improved significantly, creating an increased demand for products using the superior-quality material.
Weaver
From fiber to thread, thread to cloth, cloth to dress, and path of a tailor literally weaves its way from basic beginnings to extravagant ends. And while this alone can prove a long and arduous journey, a weaver's work spans more than just the spinning of strings and the sewing of seams. Those who wish to excel as clothcrafters must also stay attuned to the latest fashion trends, ensuring their custom are never scoffed by their peers for looking anything less than posh.
Just as the Spinner, Nymeia, spins the fate of all Eorzeans, the warp and weft of a weaver's work, too, have been known to alter the course of destinies both large and small. Perhaps this is why so many of the realm's tailors pay homage to the fickle goddess.
Disciples of the Land
Gatherers will cover most of the HELM activities of Final Fantasy XI. These include, but may not be limited to, Hunting, Excavating, Lumbering, Mining and Fishing. By taking a tool in hand, players can improve their skills in a variety of professions.
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Miner
The Miner's Guild is responsible for the excavation and handling of Eorzea's mineral wealth, be it ores, fossils, precious stones, or otherwise. It should come as no surprise, then, that their most eager customers are the ream's blacksmiths and goldsmiths.
To fully master the advanced techniques developed by the great mining nation of Ul'dah, miners must undertake a wide range of tasks, from the meticulous prospecting of the most minute deposits to large-scale civil engineering. The guild staunchly subscribes to the theory of continental drift, and as such many among its ranks for their patron deity Oschon, the Wanderer.
The primary tool of the miner is the pickaxe.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
We have been offered a 200 person Vent server.
Connection info is
IP: vent11.gameservers.com
Port: 4670
It is passworded. Please do not post the password here on the forums. Give the password only in PM to linkshell members.
FF14's version of the playonline website has gone live, called the lodestone. Link is:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/index.html
This site will handle all your billing and support questions, as well as all other basic must have info about the game. I.E. This would be your game manual! Thanks to Delphinidaes for the link!
I am told this is a worthwhile link for stuff:
http://ffxiv.yg.com/
These links might also be worth your time:
http://www.eorzeapedia.com/wiki/en/Main_Page
http://ffxivarchives.com/page/guides/_/game-mechanics/battle-regimens-r31
Important: Reports are in that those who don't like the UI are feeling that the game is much improved should you switch to a controller. Give it a go, you might like it!
When you get in game, you will get involved with some NPC in your city that tries to be helpful. KEEP TALKING TO THAT PERSON! That is the tutorial.
This part is for Gridanians who are stuck on the dancing children:
Powle - cheer
Sansa - Bow
Ryd - Surprise
Aunille - Beckon
Elyn - Lookout
How to patch using a torrent program.
1 Start the SE patcher
2 Stop the SE patcher once it gets going (to create the torrent files)
3 Go to C:\Documents and Settings\YourName\My Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Version\downloads\ffxiv-beta\d96437e6\metainfo
This is on XP, it'll be slightly different for Vista/7.
4 Use a Bittorrent program to download every patch in this folder (or whatever you don't have, if you're updating). This should be considerably faster than the SE patcher.
5 When completed, put the files in C:\Documents and Settings\YourName\My Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Version\downloads\ffxiv-beta\d96437e6\patch
Go ahead and overwrite the files the patcher had already started on.
Again, it'll be slightly different for Vista/7
6 Run the SE patcher again, and it will verify/install the updates
7 Done.
Note: Once the installer has installed patches they are removed from the patch folder. If you are all patched up and you still have things in the patch folder you can remove them.
Important note: The game will probably not have a centralized auction house at launch. The economy and crafting will depend on networked crafters forming supply chains. We have an advantage in this in that we are all cool cats here that love co-operative efforts.
To this end please keep me posted on what levels you have in different jobs related to gathering and crafting. Your fellow crafters need your materials and skills!
Hey, I have been asked to put this up here: Fatigue and you; a newbie primer, or some such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abE09-tqhoM
If you want one of the nifty character sigs you see in people's posts, go here:
http://www.enjin.com/tools/ffxiv-signatures
Put it in spoiler tags though, or a mod will spank you.
Bri Edit: That first post is a monster. Topia wrote it, everyone go give him a hard time over it.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Special note: Going forward, request a pearl from the shell "Eorzean Liberation Front".
Oh, and look at this awesome helmet. The pope WISHES he had this hat! (Although on further consideration I think the Vatican Police might wear something along these lines on occasion.)
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Empty, but with a framework promising of future content.
It's almost like a metaphor for something.
It's perfect.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Screen goes black. Clearly my Doomspike has triggered a cut scene.
Gathol Duare is disconnected.
I AM TOO POWERFUL. THE GAME COULD NOT COMPREHEND IT.
Edit - Place in Login Queue: 1
SWTOR - Elysium
League of Legends Handle - Siegfreid
WoW - Siegfreid
FFXIV - Maxim
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
And I have to ask, is this being done for dramatic effect? Or is that really the only way to sell multiples of items? I literally never got far enough during my playtime to sell anything more than single items, so I'm curious. I'm leaning towards 'someone just wanted to make a funny video' but I figured I'd just copy it over here and ask.
I'd just do what you were going to do, I got my tongue in cheek laugh and I'll amend my post when you amend yours
Picture Me Rollin'
Nope, it's accurate. Sadly the video is actually smoother than my experience.
Yup that seems about right.
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This is accurate, but it looks like the person is using a controller. It's even more clunky with a keyboard/mouse.
Sticking to the keyboard is nearly the same as using a controller.
Rebinding stuff with something like a G9 mouse and extra thumb buttons can make the game better with key/mouse than with controller. The main issue is that enter and menu are in dumb spots by default and you cant rebind them in the games menu (you can rebind other stuff though just fine). But having enter and menu on my two thumb buttons changes everything.
There are very few MMOs that I have liked everything in their default setup... hell I spent the most time setting up my WoW UI and keybinds than compared to FFXIV.
By default, yes key/mouse is bad. But I have zero issues with the UI after changing some things. Not to be confused with the LAG that happens with each interaction like selling vendor junk, I dont blame that on the UI at all, I blame it on the servers only being in Japan.
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So you have zero issues with the fact that
1. Inventory can't be sorted
2. You can only trade 4 items at a time, despite being able to use 8 in a synth
3. That crystals/shards are arbitrarily capped
4. That you can't see durability on items in the equipment tab, only in the inventory tab
5. That you have to remove items to repair them
6. That underwear is something that needs to be repaired, even though you can't take it off
7. That you can't target party members by clicking on their health bar, you have to either click on them directly or cycle through party members in an unintuitive order
8. The ridiculous number of steps involved in any action
9. That you can't just walk away from a vendor, you have to back all the way out of the interaction
10. That chat is capped at about as many characters as are in this sentence
11. That you have to switch linkpearls to talk in different chat channels
12. That you have to be next to somebody to invite them to a party, or a linkshell, or to remove them from a linkshell.
13. That you can't see party members on the world map
14. That you can't zoom out on the world map
15. That equipped gear takes up inventory space, in a game where you're likely already carrying multiple gear sets.
NONE of these things bother you? Is one thing to acknowledge the glaring flaws and say you've gotten used to them, that's fine. It's another to pretend they don't exist.
Or did you just mean that you had no problem navigating the UI? Because obviously that's a different issue, and in that case whoops.
Also, all of my friends have given up on this game until march, so I'm glad I insisted on rolling on Wutai with you guys. I'll at least have someone to play with.
Well yes, I have no issues navigating the UI. By default I did, with some keybinds in windows though its easily better with key/mouse than gamepad for me.
But I also don't really have issue with this list of things you made, to the point that I call them flaws. I see a "flaw" in a game as something broke, buggy or not working how the developers designed it. Initially it felt weird for all those things to work as you listed, I can't say I notice it bothering me at this point.
Don't get this confused with me saying I don't notice all that stuff. Surely I do if comparing FFXIV to most popular MMOs. Its just that one or two extra keypressed doesn't bother me.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then I guess it's a question of definition. For me, flaws and bugs are two distinct entities. Flaws are shortcomings in the game, often stemming from poor design. For example, it wasn't a bug that the market wards were a complete clusterfuck at release. It was a deeply flawed system. They're improving it, sure. We'll see what happens.
It's ok to like a game in spite of its flaws, but to adamantly defend them as actually being good design (even if it's just good because its not WoW) is a bit odd to me.
Oh the market ward thing is idiotic. I've only made about 200k gil using my retainer in there for many days. I've made over 900k gil just setting up my bazaar in Ul'dah while I'm not playing.
There is no defending that the game just simply needs a AH and/or search function on retainers. However its not something I worry about, for now bazaars arent bad at all.
I dont like the game because it "isnt WoW". In fact I hate that mentality. I like WoW. I like EVE. I like Fallen Earth. I like Ryzom. I liked EQ1, I liked Ultima.... well you get the picture (Ive played way more MMOs than I can list). My point is I DONT compare MMOs on the idea that one is better than another. I'm not playing all these MMOs at once of course...my WoW account isnt active, when the expansion comes I'm sure I'll enjoy it for a while. I see so many people saying this, "I'm playing WoW until UPCOMING MMO comes out." Then those same people just go right back to WoW and while they spent a few weeks with whatever they hoped would replace WoW, they constantly just chatted in general about how things are better or worse than WoW.
Its a silly cycle though. I'll never look at one MMO as being "THE BEST", because then I would spend all day comparing things to other games and worry about flaws and features. I just look at them and ask, "Is this fun for me?". FFXIV is fun for me. People pointed out that selling items in WoW is quick and easy while in FFXIV it takes a few extra minutes to do the same thing... I don't recall ever playing WoW due to the fact that vendoring items is entertaining. So why would it bother me that vendoring items is slower in FFXIV? Now if combat, crafting and the community were no fun, then surely I wouldn't play FFXIV anymore.
With all the comparing of MMOs though, I think someone needs to make an MMO that is just about "comparing MMOs".... think about it, thats what so many people waste their time doing anyway in new MMOs.
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EDIT: Also, a change from XI, Dia and Bio seem to stack!
In my experience Sacrifice and Cure actually have a comparable up front amount of HP when healing on a Thaum. Last time I was playing I think Sac healed for 173+ Regen, Cure healed for like 175. The difference is that Sacrifice takes some of your health, so it's less ideal for healing you if you're taking a pounding.
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Well, as I'm sure you know, placement is different for both mages. Conjurers cast their spells as an AoE off of the target, and Thamaturges cast in a cone starting with them and traveling to (and past) the target.
Maybe it was a Conj that wanted in on the heal or Stoneskin?
As for healers being so close, not sure about Conj range but thaum range for heals isn't very far at all and as our AoEs fire in a cone type effect if we're trying to hit multiple people with it sometimes we have to be even closer/doing the see who all is in range dance.
Another factor may be just plain them not paying attention when a mob does an AoE or not knowing what the AoE animation is to run from it.
I might be that my group was rather low and just getting critted on though, since I was 20 and they were lvl 20 leves.. but most the group was 13ish.
I just feel bad when tanking and someone dies for stuff that I cant really prevent, cant move the mob if they are readying an AOE cause they like to stand still while doing the animation.
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There's no reason to feel bad. This is called learning; hopefully they catch on. Neither FF MMO is a game where you can just do your own thing and not pay attention. Shit be dangerous, and it will eat your face off if you're not careful.
Also, it's not like there's a huge penalty to dying like in FFXI. Nothing was more depressing than having someone in the party delevel after a wipe.
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Let me know you are from PA, otherwise I will likely ignore you.
Oh ya, I got PLD BRD and SAM to 75 in FFXI... didnt play it when the cap went above that. The death penalty was silly, more than once I had to grind back to 75 from deleveling on endgame content.
Other than getting a party, the combat mechanics were just great. The only thing I didnt like was no customization at all... and FFXIV fixes that wonderfully with mixing of skills, more so than talent tree type MMOs I would say, since talent trees really are just fill in the blanks of the same thing everyone else SHOULD pick anyway depending on what role they wanna fill. I'm sure in a party, a tank will eventually be required to have certain stuff to be min/maxed... but solo and duo situations it leaves things flexible to do almost anything you want. Until WoW had dual specs, some people just had to deal with sucking as solo.... with FFXIV i just push a macro that changes my skills around.
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WOAH WOAH WOAH! You're taking this way too far. If you're going to be an extremist like this get OUT.
Number 15 is totally normal for some games.