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Star Trek - The Beginning of the Borg

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    please no more borg

    haven't we made them pathetic enough without castrating them even further by revealing some terrible origin

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    wil wheaton is a gaming advocate! he gets up in front of a bunch of gamers and says games are cool! advocacy!

    i

    LOVE

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Balefuego wrote: »
    please no more borg

    haven't we made them pathetic enough without castrating them even further by revealing some terrible origin

    yeah after seven-of-nine borg are total pussies

    it's nice to remember the good old days

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    gah, ST Online was such a disappointment.

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    It really was/is. I resubbed just before FFXIV came out and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan it sucks more then ever.

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    Samir Duran DuranSamir Duran Duran Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I liked First Contact even though it had holodeck shennanigans and time travel, two things I usually can't stand

    Goddamn time travel

    Maybe this isn't the place for it but goddamn I hate the holodeck and what it says about everyone in Star Trek.

    Here is a room in which you can have anything you desire and cap'n picard and the other soulless boring cool kids of the enterprise spend all day frolicking around playing Robin fucking Hood! You can have respect for the classics that is fine but goddamn space people you can have anything!

    It stretches my suspension of disbelief past the breaking point.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    it was interesting, but yeah

    I bet CCP could make a fucking amazing star trek mmo

    but I'd never play it because battles would take a week

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    There was one thing STO had going for it:

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I hear FFXIV is just as stupid and obtuse as 11 was but even more unplayable

    true or false

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The startrek MMO didn't seem to understand what people want out of a startrek game.

    Shoe: true. Also there is apparently no endgame content

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I hear FFXIV is just as stupid and obtuse as 11 was but even more unplayable

    true or false

    True to the max

    And I fucking loved FFXI. Loved loved loved. And then FFXIV came along and kicked me right in the nuts.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I liked First Contact even though it had holodeck shennanigans and time travel, two things I usually can't stand

    Goddamn time travel

    Maybe this isn't the place for it but goddamn I hate the holodeck and what it says about everyone in Star Trek.

    Here is a room in which you can have anything you desire and cap'n picard and the other soulless boring cool kids of the enterprise spend all day frolicking around playing Robin fucking Hood! You can have respect for the classics that is fine but goddamn space people you can have anything!

    It stretches my suspension of disbelief past the breaking point.

    So what would you do? And that's a serious question because if I had a holodeck you can bet your ass I'd hang out at Helm's Deep and nobody could stop me and I wouldn't care who knew.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    FFXI had a lot of great stuff going for it but some annoying stuff covering it up.
    FFXIV has a ton of annoying stuff and not much underneath it.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    bummer

    I wonder if it'll end up like some weird asheron's call situation, where the followup dies and the original lives forever

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Peen wrote: »
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I liked First Contact even though it had holodeck shennanigans and time travel, two things I usually can't stand

    Goddamn time travel

    Maybe this isn't the place for it but goddamn I hate the holodeck and what it says about everyone in Star Trek.

    Here is a room in which you can have anything you desire and cap'n picard and the other soulless boring cool kids of the enterprise spend all day frolicking around playing Robin fucking Hood! You can have respect for the classics that is fine but goddamn space people you can have anything!

    It stretches my suspension of disbelief past the breaking point.

    So what would you do? And that's a serious question because if I had a holodeck you can bet your ass I'd hang out at Helms Deep and nobody could stop me and I wouldn't care who knew.
    two chicks

    at the same time

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    FFXIV has literally nothing going for it besides it's pretty graphics

    Nothing

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The only ground stuff I liked in ST Online was at the end of the Beta when all the Borg showed up.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    look everyone knows that the holodeck would be used 99% of the time for weird sexual fantasies

    the other 1%: violent rampages

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    everyone would be Broccoli and we all know it

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    yeah, 11 seemed interesting, but there were so many obstacles to having fun it never felt worth it

    14 seems like one big obstacle with no fun at the end

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    Samir Duran DuranSamir Duran Duran Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    as was mentioned the midichlorians thing is the ideal example

    like oooh isn't the force cool it's all mystical and shit some people have an affinity for it, others don't, it is mysterious and powerful-

    wait what it's caused by microorganisms in the blood

    what

    that doesn't even make sense within the context of the hyperspace laser sword turbolaser world

    Whenever someone fights a jedi in any star-wars thing I'm hoping the jedi gets their ass kicked. Inventive, quick-thinking and pragmatic people over dumb space wizards any day of the week imo.

    I hope the empire comes back competent and burns down the jedi temple again.
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    look everyone knows that the holodeck would be used 99% of the time for weird sexual fantasies

    the other 1%: violent rampages

    And if they would do that I wouldn't be pulled out of the show by the jarring image of people choosing to play Robin Hood all day.

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    FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    STO had the best character creation around for an MMO

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    The rest of the game was complete ass.

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    neville wrote: »
    Peen wrote: »
    I've got to admit that I didn't watch Enterprise at all. I just know that one you mentioned because it was in the Borg dvd pack that I got because it had all of the good Borg episodes too.

    I could never get into DS9 or Enterprise.
    Should I try to remedy this?

    DS9? A million times yes.

    Enterprise? Eh, it's touch and go. It's not bad, really but it's not overly good either.

    DS9 is the best of the series, despite it dragging on the first few seasons. The last few years with the Dominion Wars are some of the best written tv shows ever. I highly suggest you watch it from season 1, but keep it in the back of your head that it takes a year or two to flesh out characters and story lines, and sweet jebus did they do a good job of making everything work out well.

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I want to catch up on DS9 so bad but I only have the Season 1 DVD and I just don't have the money to spend on the rest of the series :(

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Enterprise isn't as awful as people make it out to be. I honestly think if they hadn't had such teeth-clenchingly saccharine opening credits it would've been more successful.

    Funny thing, enterprise started to get really interesting at the end, and the latter episodes (minus the last one with troy and riker, which was abysmal as fuck) were pretty cool. I particularly liked.. this one, and this one, IIRC, though I don't remember WHY I liked the wild west one...
    And I'm glad the new Star Trek movie was good, I was really going to stop watching anything related to Star Trek after how much Nemesis sucked ass, which is pretty sad considering I loved it since I was a little kid

    Enterprise did indeed get much, much better when the different producer took over and ended that whole stupid Xindi temporal cold war thing.

    I still maintain the best teaser (ie - the part before the theme song and credits) is
    the episode where the Xindi make it to Earth and destroy it.

    My stomach literally sunk and my jaw just dropped.

    Clip:

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I am so tired of the borg.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I dunno, I always felt the characters in Enterprise were believable, and liked it

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Bad-Beat wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    tasha yar's death may have been the best moment of TNG

    The first time or second?

    the second time, easily.

    We never saw her die the 2nd time. She was captured by Romulans and was killed trying to escape.

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I liked how they did the first transporter moment.

    edit: When I said second time, I was refering to the episode 'Yesterday's Enterprise'. which I believe I may have the details wrong on...

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    DS9 was good

    but B5 was better

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Why oh why did they have such awful Irish stereotypes on the show? The Irish colonists on Next Gen who set fire to the Enterprise trying to cook their dinner was bad enough, but then years later Voyager decides to have an entire episode set in the holodeck in a godawful Irish village. I cringed so much I got muscle spasms.

    Come on, O'Brien was a great character.

    Actually yes. O'Brien was fantastic. His whole friendship with Bashir became so enjoyable to watch over the years.

    Indeed. DS9 was so. so. good in that regard. As it was said, there were so many good support characters, most shows didn't even have a main cast that interesting.
    On a related note, was I the only one who found it funny that bashir was acted pretty badly at the beginning, and later you find out he's actually (major spoiler)
    REALLY only acting it, since he is not what everyone thinks he is?

    his and dukats dialog is always fantastic

    You're thinking Garak.

    No he's not. It's a fake!

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Balefuego wrote: »
    DS9 was good

    but B5 was better

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzHR-VIrEm8

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    Samir Duran DuranSamir Duran Duran Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    SeñorAmor wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    Peen wrote: »
    I've got to admit that I didn't watch Enterprise at all. I just know that one you mentioned because it was in the Borg dvd pack that I got because it had all of the good Borg episodes too.

    I could never get into DS9 or Enterprise.
    Should I try to remedy this?

    DS9? A million times yes.

    Enterprise? Eh, it's touch and go. It's not bad, really but it's not overly good either.

    It's been a long road,
    To get from there to here.
    It's been a long time,
    but my time is finally here.

    And I can feel a change
    in the wind right now.
    Nothing's in my way.
    And they're not gonna
    hold me down no more.
    No they're not gonna hold me down.

    'CAUSE I'VE GOT FAITH, OF THE HEART.
    I'm going where my heart
    will take me.
    I've got faith to believe.
    I can do anything.
    I've got strength of the soul.
    AND NO ONE'S GONNA BEND OR BREAK MEEE!
    I can reach any star.
    I've got faith,
    I've got faith,
    Faith of the heart.

    It's been a long night,
    Trying to find my way.
    Been thru the darkness,
    Now I finally have my day.

    And I will see my dream
    come alive at last.
    I will touch the sky.
    And they're not gonna hold
    me down no more.
    No they're not gonna change
    my mind.

    'Cause I've got faith of the heart.
    I'm going where my heart
    will take me.
    I've got faith to believe.
    I can do anything.
    I've got strength of the soul.
    And no one's going to bend
    or break me.
    I can reach any star.
    I've got faith,
    Faith of the heart.

    I know the wind's so cold,
    I've seen the darkest days.
    But now the winds I feel,
    Are only winds of change.
    I've been thru the fire,
    And I've been thru the rain,
    But I'll be fine.

    'Cause I've got faith of the heart.
    I'm going where my heart
    will take me.
    I've got faith to believe.
    I can do anything.
    I've got strength of the soul.
    And no one's going to bend
    or break me.
    I can reach any star.
    'Cause I've got faith,
    'Cause I've got faith,
    Faith of the heart...

    Faith of the heart.
    I'm going where my heart
    will take me.
    I've got faith to believe.
    And no one's going to bend
    or break me.
    I can reach any star.
    'Cause I've got faith,
    'Cause I've got faith,
    Faith of the heart...


    Do you have faith of the heart, SeñorAmor??

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    Samir Duran DuranSamir Duran Duran Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    In Enterprise the Enterprise gets dive-bombed by Stukas with fucking space torpedo world war II era fighter-bomber bombs because space aliens have infiltrated the nazis.

    That is something you just don't get in star trek enough.

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    John MatrixJohn Matrix Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    In Enterprise the Enterprise gets dive-bombed by Stukas with fucking space torpedo world war II era fighter-bomber bombs because space aliens have infiltrated the nazis.

    That is something you just don't get in star trek enough.

    I... no.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    there should literally be a star trek series where they do nothing but fight nazis

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    there should literally be a star trek series where they do nothing but fight nazis
    They prefer to be called Cardassians.

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Later, she became captain of the famous star ship USS Voyager after only weeks of training. Demonstrating her undeniably womanly driving skills, she stranded the ship and entire crew in the Delta Quadrant

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    incredible

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    and then she is admitted to the admiralty

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