Hamsters are never this cute. I've owned hamsters and they've never been this cute. They're always little furry assholes who make beds in the little habitrail pod that's supposed to be for pooping, and poop in the habitrail pod that supposed to be for food. Also they poop in the habitrail exercise dome and leave pee trails through all the habitrail tubes.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
And thus why I despise many comics, TV shows, and movies.
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I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
also i have pretty much decided to start a blogspot blog wherein i discuss science and have evolution science debates
through the use of image macros and internet memes
i have already reserved the name
bi-LOL-ogy
I feel like 90% of science blogs are evolution ones that specifically target ID
as if through sheer massive blogitute scientists can put an end to creation "science"
they are
and also it is a matter of "hey if we let all the crazy ID guys have their blogs up and say crazy things, then soon we will have this be repeated FOREVER"
which is also why i said it will be about debating evolution science (which could mean ANYTHING) and also normal science
if i can figure out a way to phrase it in the context of an internet meme or an image macro, it will be on there
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
And thus why I despise many comics, TV shows, and movies.
....because they ask you to make assumptions to make the story work?
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
I don't like Ray Kurzweil. I don't agree with his view of the singularity.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
And thus why I despise many comics, TV shows, and movies.
....because they ask you to make assumptions to make the story work?
Next he'll complain about Wile E. Coyote never just buying food.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
He regenerated himself from a single drop of blood once.
That far exceeded my capacity for suspension of disbelief.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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Will might know off the top of his head what the average flight time is for an ICBM. But say it's half an hour. That's 1800 seconds. If Doctor Manhattan could stop missiles at the amazing rate of one every single second, that still is just a fraction of the total Soviet arsenal.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
He regenerated himself from a single drop of blood once.
That far exceeded my capacity for suspension of disbelief.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
God I hope not. I know he's been cloned.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
Wolverine once regenerated from the sperm inside of a girl he fucked.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
He regenerated himself from a single drop of blood once.
That far exceeded my capacity for suspension of disbelief.
That's true, but it was a very specific situation. The drop of blood landed on a magical thingy that granted ultimate power, and so although wolvie was being gutted over there, the drop of blood regenerated him using the jewel's ultimate power.
So it's less silly than it sounds.
Except for the whole magical jewel of ultimate power thing.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
He regenerated himself from a single drop of blood once.
That far exceeded my capacity for suspension of disbelief.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
He regenerated himself from a single drop of blood once.
That far exceeded my capacity for suspension of disbelief.
Wait what? With his adamantium as well?
IIRC this was during the time when he didn't have his adamantium because Magneto ripped it out of his body.
(Which was cool when it happened.)
Edit: though I might be wrong
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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Well I certainly don't have a problem with a jewel of ultimate power.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
And thus why I despise many comics, TV shows, and movies.
....because they ask you to make assumptions to make the story work?
I tend to prefer at least some semblance of cohesion.
It's like with LOTR. Gandalf is a very finite creature. Sure, he's a God, but he's a God with flaws and Tolkien kept that consistent.
I just can't get past the mental block when a character is supposed to be X but then they have to limit him in situation where he shouldn't have a problem.
Kinda like how Heroes fucked itself and had to retcon characters
Wolvie once regenerated after being reduced to his adamantium skeleton. It was very, very silly. And doesn't even make sense.
To be fair, he used to be much much much less over-the-top.
They did give a justification for this in the comics. he had the adamtium taken out of his body, and his natural healing factor, which had been held in check by the slow poisoning of the adamtium for years, suddenly ballooned in strength.
Wolvie once regenerated after being reduced to his adamantium skeleton. It was very, very silly. And doesn't even make sense.
To be fair, he used to be much much much less over-the-top.
I remember the heady days of reading the Claremont/Miller Wolverine limited series as a wee lad. That was just about the right power level for him then.
Man, I don't deserve this job. Everyone's being all super understanding about me being gone for the last few days. Jesus.
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edited October 2010
One of the great things about the old X-Men comics, before Wolverine was the #8 most toyetic IP of the year or whatever, was that when he'd get fucked up in a fight he'd spend the next six or eight months real time gimping around in bandages and casts, bleeding everywhere after the slightest exertion.
It seems to me like the most straight-forward way to overcome aging is to accomplish, and then perfect, a total central nervous system transplant. Even just the brain might suffice. If we could then perfect human cloning, we could theoretically, if that individual could afford it, cloning several sets of an individual, and then, when he needs a new body, just kill one and move his brain to it.
Obviously there's an issue if your body starts breaking down before one has reached maturity, but if you started early and don't have any abnormally early deadly hereditary diseases, that shouldn't happen. Also, obviously no surgical procedure is perfect and there would always be a chance that your brain might die during the operation. And then there's the issue of environmental diseases, and trauma, but those will likely always be problems to some degree.
So, you play a game of Russian roulette every forty, sixty years, whatever. Or, hell, twenty if you could afford the more regular start-up procedures for the next bodies and the fee for the surgery. Ideally, as you got older and wiser you would be exponentially more powerful and richer than lesser people in first generation bodies. Although, I guess unless we start moving into space soon, or the ocean there probably wouldn't be very many first generation people around after awhile. It would just be the same stagnant population, with a few new ones here and there due to population control issues. Maybe some sub-culture would decide it's cool to start actually awakening their growing bodies and letting them run around like real people. There'd probably be all kinds of crazy culture clash and ethical debates there. And if the population was more or less stagnant, it would probably organize itself into some wretched pyramid scheme, or network of pyramid schemes, with people who started this bullshit the earliest wresting control of the rest of the world with their decades or centuries of greater experience and accumulated wealth and power.
I got ideas.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
Wolverine once regenerated from the spit on a sandwich he half-ate and then after regenerating he finished the sandwich.
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I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
And when Magneto does that, Prof X lobotomizes him. Soooooooo.
Wolvie once regenerated after being reduced to his adamantium skeleton. It was very, very silly. And doesn't even make sense.
Oh, when he went outside the shuttle? yeah, that was a bit much.
No, post Civil War in his own title. Whatsisface who blew up the civilians to kick off Civil War exploded and reduced him, on panel, to his skeleton. A few panels later, Wolvie's back and going snikt.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
And thus why I despise many comics, TV shows, and movies.
....because they ask you to make assumptions to make the story work?
I tend to prefer at least some semblance of cohesion.
It's like with LOTR. Gandalf is a very finite creature. Sure, he's a God, but he's a God with flaws and Tolkien kept that consistent.
I just can't get past the mental block when a character is supposed to be X but then they have to limit him in situation where he shouldn't have a problem.
Kinda like how Heroes fucked itself and had to retcon characters
Gandalf is more of an angelic creature with a free-will
One of the great things about the old X-Men comics, before Wolverine was the #8 most toyetic IP of the year or whatever, was that when he'd get fucked up in a fight he'd spend the next six or eight months real time gimping around in bandages and casts, bleeding everywhere after the slightest exertion.
He was fucked up for about a solid year after Donald Pierce crucified him and the Reavers knocked him about.
Wolvie once regenerated after being reduced to his adamantium skeleton. It was very, very silly. And doesn't even make sense.
To be fair, he used to be much much much less over-the-top.
They did give a justification for this in the comics. he had the adamtium taken out of his body, and his natural healing factor, which had been held in check by the slow poisoning of the adamtium for years, suddenly ballooned in strength.
yeah didn't magneto put it back because he's like "oh well fuck now he's a goddamn bullet made to kill me"
Wolvie once regenerated after being reduced to his adamantium skeleton. It was very, very silly. And doesn't even make sense.
To be fair, he used to be much much much less over-the-top.
They did give a justification for this in the comics. he had the adamtium taken out of his body, and his natural healing factor, which had been held in check by the slow poisoning of the adamtium for years, suddenly ballooned in strength.
I rather liked that event.
Because Wolverine and Magneto had both been somewhat pussified over the years. Wolverine's inner conflict between his savagery and his family-oriented mentality had taken a back seat to him just being a bad-ass soldier; Magneto hadn't really been a villain in any substantive capacity in a long time.
Then Magneto goes and does something really, really fucked up to remind us that yes, this guy is not nice and Wolverine goes back to struggling with his animal instincts.
I kind of liked it.
I did stop reading not long after that, though.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I mean, you might as well ask "Why can't Superman use his x-ray vision to look through a mile of lead?" Because he can't. "Why can't Wolverine's regenerative factor allow him to make copies of himself just by chopping off, like, an arm?" Because he can't. "Why couldn't Magneto just wander in to the White House, destroying all the tanks/guns/missiles in a 100 mile radius, and declare himself President?" Because he can't.
You do kind of have to accept some limitations to these characters' abilities or else there is no plot.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
And when Magneto does that, Prof X lobotomizes him. Soooooooo.
The superman thing is a because he can't, though.
Surely magneto couldn't get leverage to pull the adamantium out of wolverine.
Like if he pulled it towards himself the rest of Wolverine's body would just follow with.
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And thus why I despise many comics, TV shows, and movies.
I am almost positive the wolverine thing has actually happened
they are
and also it is a matter of "hey if we let all the crazy ID guys have their blogs up and say crazy things, then soon we will have this be repeated FOREVER"
which is also why i said it will be about debating evolution science (which could mean ANYTHING) and also normal science
if i can figure out a way to phrase it in the context of an internet meme or an image macro, it will be on there
She changes Manhattan's mind to never interfere again, and come back.
Although he knew she'd be doing this she still had to come and do it which is why he teleported her there.
....because they ask you to make assumptions to make the story work?
Thank you Jacob.
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He regenerated himself from a single drop of blood once.
That far exceeded my capacity for suspension of disbelief.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
less than half an hour
seriously cass you are like the coolest
Wait what? With his adamantium as well?
To be fair, he used to be much much much less over-the-top.
God I hope not. I know he's been cloned.
That's true, but it was a very specific situation. The drop of blood landed on a magical thingy that granted ultimate power, and so although wolvie was being gutted over there, the drop of blood regenerated him using the jewel's ultimate power.
So it's less silly than it sounds.
Except for the whole magical jewel of ultimate power thing.
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Oh, when he went outside the shuttle? yeah, that was a bit much.
yes
IIRC this was during the time when he didn't have his adamantium because Magneto ripped it out of his body.
(Which was cool when it happened.)
Edit: though I might be wrong
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I tend to prefer at least some semblance of cohesion.
It's like with LOTR. Gandalf is a very finite creature. Sure, he's a God, but he's a God with flaws and Tolkien kept that consistent.
I just can't get past the mental block when a character is supposed to be X but then they have to limit him in situation where he shouldn't have a problem.
Kinda like how Heroes fucked itself and had to retcon characters
They did give a justification for this in the comics. he had the adamtium taken out of his body, and his natural healing factor, which had been held in check by the slow poisoning of the adamtium for years, suddenly ballooned in strength.
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i don't know it has been a while
I remember the heady days of reading the Claremont/Miller Wolverine limited series as a wee lad. That was just about the right power level for him then.
It seems to me like the most straight-forward way to overcome aging is to accomplish, and then perfect, a total central nervous system transplant. Even just the brain might suffice. If we could then perfect human cloning, we could theoretically, if that individual could afford it, cloning several sets of an individual, and then, when he needs a new body, just kill one and move his brain to it.
Obviously there's an issue if your body starts breaking down before one has reached maturity, but if you started early and don't have any abnormally early deadly hereditary diseases, that shouldn't happen. Also, obviously no surgical procedure is perfect and there would always be a chance that your brain might die during the operation. And then there's the issue of environmental diseases, and trauma, but those will likely always be problems to some degree.
So, you play a game of Russian roulette every forty, sixty years, whatever. Or, hell, twenty if you could afford the more regular start-up procedures for the next bodies and the fee for the surgery. Ideally, as you got older and wiser you would be exponentially more powerful and richer than lesser people in first generation bodies. Although, I guess unless we start moving into space soon, or the ocean there probably wouldn't be very many first generation people around after awhile. It would just be the same stagnant population, with a few new ones here and there due to population control issues. Maybe some sub-culture would decide it's cool to start actually awakening their growing bodies and letting them run around like real people. There'd probably be all kinds of crazy culture clash and ethical debates there. And if the population was more or less stagnant, it would probably organize itself into some wretched pyramid scheme, or network of pyramid schemes, with people who started this bullshit the earliest wresting control of the rest of the world with their decades or centuries of greater experience and accumulated wealth and power.
I got ideas.
And when Magneto does that, Prof X lobotomizes him. Soooooooo.
The superman thing is a because he can't, though.
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No, post Civil War in his own title. Whatsisface who blew up the civilians to kick off Civil War exploded and reduced him, on panel, to his skeleton. A few panels later, Wolvie's back and going snikt.
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Gandalf is more of an angelic creature with a free-will
He was fucked up for about a solid year after Donald Pierce crucified him and the Reavers knocked him about.
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yeah didn't magneto put it back because he's like "oh well fuck now he's a goddamn bullet made to kill me"
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I rather liked that event.
Because Wolverine and Magneto had both been somewhat pussified over the years. Wolverine's inner conflict between his savagery and his family-oriented mentality had taken a back seat to him just being a bad-ass soldier; Magneto hadn't really been a villain in any substantive capacity in a long time.
Then Magneto goes and does something really, really fucked up to remind us that yes, this guy is not nice and Wolverine goes back to struggling with his animal instincts.
I kind of liked it.
I did stop reading not long after that, though.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Surely magneto couldn't get leverage to pull the adamantium out of wolverine.
Like if he pulled it towards himself the rest of Wolverine's body would just follow with.
Makes no sense.
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