Five was really the first god-awful Star Trek movie and also the worst, although Nemesis gave it a run for its money.
One is turgid and overlong but has been vastly improved by the new cut and is now actually kind of cool, and three isn't really bad, just kind of flatly directed and talky.
Five was an offense against cinema, though.
One damn near killed any future movies though, so that holds a special place of suck. Three was also bad because it came off of the great two and went to shit pretty damn fast.
What I hated the most about Nemesis was the wasted fucking potential.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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So if Mazzy's post is correct and Jared Loughner really did make a video of himself in a red g-string holding a Glock 9 I think it's important to note that he chose RED. OBVIOUS REPUBLICAN DEBATE OVER!
So if Mazzy's post is correct and Jared Loughner really did make a video of himself in a red g-string holding a Glock 9 I think it's important to note that he chose RED. OBVIOUS REPUBLICAN DEBATE OVER!
I hate you.
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Five is the only Trek film I actively disliked. The first one felt like an attempt to do a proper SF film, with a really good SF plot idea (VGER) powering things along, but is admittedly a bit dull in parts.
Five was really the first god-awful Star Trek movie and also the worst, although Nemesis gave it a run for its money.
One is turgid and overlong but has been vastly improved by the new cut and is now actually kind of cool, and three isn't really bad, just kind of flatly directed and talky.
Five was an offense against cinema, though.
One damn near killed any future movies though, so that holds a special place of suck. Three was also bad because it came off of the great two and went to shit pretty damn fast.
What I hated the most about Nemesis was the wasted fucking potential.
The thing I hate and love the most about Nemesis is how it drove the franchise into a wall.
On the one hand, it was a regrettable ending to a regrettable run of Trek movies and shows.
On the other hand, it forced Paramount to start over with JJ Abrams.
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So if Mazzy's post is correct and Jared Loughner really did make a video of himself in a red g-string holding a Glock 9 I think it's important to note that he chose RED. OBVIOUS REPUBLICAN DEBATE OVER!
Yeah, he was great. Christopher Lloyd was pretty good, but he didn't have Chang's sense of humour.
Though I've always had a soft spot for the Klingon Ambassador who keeps ragging on Kirk and then has to applaud him at the end of VI, but does so in a forced slow-handclappy kind of way.
I still haven't seen Nemesis. The TNG films were all kind of lame, I guess First Contact was fairly enjoyable, if not very good. Generations was bad though, and Insurrection was like a terrible first season episode of the normal series with souped up special effects.
Undiscovered Country is a really good Trek film. I like the way almost all the crew are unremittingly racist for almost the whole length of the movie.
Nicholas Meyer is a very sharp cookie. I listened to his commentary on Wrath of Khan recently and it's impressive how he seems to instinctively understand how to make a good Star Trek movie even though he personally doesn't understand its appeal at all.
He probably knows how to make a good Trek movie because he's not a Trekkie.
Well, that's the argument that has often been made.
But I dunno. I understand that the sort of stories I enjoy from Star Trek on TV - the talky, character-heavy ones, or the episodes with cool sciencefictional puzzles (like "Booby Trap" from TNG, or "Devil in the Dark" from the original series) - aren't really suited for a two-hour movie, while Meyer's background in adventure stories and pulp fiction pastiches made him the right choice to tell the sort of seafaring adventure stories that play well on film. But I think the kinds of stories I like, the stuff he largely dismisses as weird sci-fi shit, have their place too.
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Yeah, he was great. Christopher Lloyd was pretty good, but he didn't have Chang's sense of humour.
Though I've always had a soft spot for the Klingon Ambassador who keeps ragging on Kirk and then has to applaud him at the end of VI, but does so in a forced slow-handclappy kind of way.
In the Star Wars Universe he'd have a full backstory and 5 book series dedicated to him.
I still haven't seen Nemesis. The TNG films were all kind of lame, I guess First Contact was fairly enjoyable, if not very good. Generations was bad though, and Insurrection was like a terrible first season episode of the normal series with souped up special effects.
Nemesis bugs me because for some reason the Romulans, probably my favorite bad guy species in Star Trek were reduced to nothing so they could have a clone of Picard and some other scary looking race be the bad guys.
Fucking hell, perfect set up for the Romulans to try and push in since it was after the Dominion war. Should of been about uncovering a plot, awesome warbirds maybe and lots of underhandedness. Maybe a spy on the Enterprise.
I rewatched the Trek reboot recently and though I still like it and love the cast, boy oh boy it's a fucking dumb movie. The plot is one of the stupidest pieces of work I can remember seeing.
Still like it, though. The beginning is fantastic.
I am a still a big fan of First Contact. In general it was fun, especially if you know who they are meeting(mentioned in the original series in a talk between McCoy and Spock). The action was fun. I write off the queen but like the idea of how they were trying to assimilate Data.
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The thing about one is that despite having a bad rep it still made Paramount fuckloads of money. It just didn't do Star Wars business, so they decided it was a failure, slashed the budget for II and basically doomed future movies to try and make do on the kind of budgets that mid-range comedies get.
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If the writers hate her why am *I* being punished with this crap?
I am a still a big fan of First Contact. In general it was fun, especially if you know who they are meeting(mentioned in the original series in a talk between McCoy and Spock). The action was fun. I write off the queen but like the idea of how they were trying to assimilate Data.
In general I enjoyed the movie a lot.
First Contact was fun because it should have been the end of the Borg, fucking Voyager.
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I am a still a big fan of First Contact. In general it was fun, especially if you know who they are meeting(mentioned in the original series in a talk between McCoy and Spock). The action was fun. I write off the queen but like the idea of how they were trying to assimilate Data.
I still haven't seen Nemesis. The TNG films were all kind of lame, I guess First Contact was fairly enjoyable, if not very good. Generations was bad though, and Insurrection was like a terrible first season episode of the normal series with souped up special effects.
there's no reason to watch Nemesis
nothing good can come of it
I have no plans to see it.
I still haven't seen the third Matrix film.
If a movie gets enough bad press, short of someone kind of forcing me to watch it, I generally don't.
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That and Kim Cattral in his dressing room for a couple hours.
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As poison is drawn from a wound.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
One damn near killed any future movies though, so that holds a special place of suck. Three was also bad because it came off of the great two and went to shit pretty damn fast.
What I hated the most about Nemesis was the wasted fucking potential.
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Feral for the last time I know thats not a snake bite and no way am I sucking on it.
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so much
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I hate you.
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Yeah how does his cock taste there preach?
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The thing I hate and love the most about Nemesis is how it drove the franchise into a wall.
On the one hand, it was a regrettable ending to a regrettable run of Trek movies and shows.
On the other hand, it forced Paramount to start over with JJ Abrams.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
BBQ sauce, I swear Nocturnes was the same, must be a kansas thing.
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Yeah, he was great. Christopher Lloyd was pretty good, but he didn't have Chang's sense of humour.
Though I've always had a soft spot for the Klingon Ambassador who keeps ragging on Kirk and then has to applaud him at the end of VI, but does so in a forced slow-handclappy kind of way.
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yeah it is completely terrible in every way
One sip will make a...
uh...
person flip?
Yeah hopefully Abrams doesn't fuck it up though he doesn't have the greatest track record of following through.
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Well, that's the argument that has often been made.
But I dunno. I understand that the sort of stories I enjoy from Star Trek on TV - the talky, character-heavy ones, or the episodes with cool sciencefictional puzzles (like "Booby Trap" from TNG, or "Devil in the Dark" from the original series) - aren't really suited for a two-hour movie, while Meyer's background in adventure stories and pulp fiction pastiches made him the right choice to tell the sort of seafaring adventure stories that play well on film. But I think the kinds of stories I like, the stuff he largely dismisses as weird sci-fi shit, have their place too.
In the Star Wars Universe he'd have a full backstory and 5 book series dedicated to him.
there's no reason to watch Nemesis
nothing good can come of it
Fucking hell, perfect set up for the Romulans to try and push in since it was after the Dominion war. Should of been about uncovering a plot, awesome warbirds maybe and lots of underhandedness. Maybe a spy on the Enterprise.
But nope, had to go with psychic rape.
Still like it, though. The beginning is fantastic.
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Everclear and OJ!
Or just get a half gallon of Sailor Jerry. Drinkable/tasty on its own, and you'll definitely manage to get fucked up at some point.
He was great as Mike Wallace. I swear the Insider is an overlooked movie full of good performances, even Pacino.
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In general I enjoyed the movie a lot.
I think the writers just hate Marina Sirtis, I swear she's the least liked of the TNG cast.
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First Contact was fun because it should have been the end of the Borg, fucking Voyager.
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So that you hate her too and they could write her out of anything ever.
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What's this, now?
Sterilium
I have no plans to see it.
I still haven't seen the third Matrix film.
If a movie gets enough bad press, short of someone kind of forcing me to watch it, I generally don't.