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His Corkiness

I wasn't watching, sorry.

His Corkiness

Take that you cheesy noobie

Variable

that was excellent

His Corkiness

Now c'mon Stork, beat the previous champion!

exoplasm

Damn zerglings are buff against marines in BW.

CuddlyCuteKitten

Why can I watch GomTV vods without paying? Odd.

Nvm was just the first 2 ones.

Anzekay

Fizban140 wrote: »

Enigma435 wrote: »

Fizban140 wrote: »

Enigma435 wrote: »

Fizban140 wrote: »

Yeah I would prefer zerg not having lurkers, something new please. It would be strange for zerg to have a siege tank like unit.

What you mean is that it would be totally awesome to have a good defensive unit for zerg.

Queens and spine crawlers? Also creep advantage. I just don't think this game needs lurkers, spider mines, and reavers.

If you think any of those are as good at defending as a AoE unit that can't be attacked without detection I have a bridge to sell you. If zerg got a different range AoE attacking unit of some kind I'd be down for that too, but I'd love to have one of any kind.

You just said defensive unit, protoss don't really have defensive units either unless you want to count Collosi then Zerg can count Broodlords. Anyways I think it would be more interesting to add something new. I could list tons of cool things, but I will just let blizzard show us, hopefully at the end of the month.

I agree with drag too, lurkers would be kind of weak against blink stalkers and bio balls.

Oh my gosh you complain so damn much about Zerg vs Protoss it confuses me to the extreme.

No long range AoE unit for Zerg? So, you mean, we don't ever get to have anything like Colossi or Tanks?

Actually, screw it. Doesn't matter how they work, Lurkers are just so badass.

Seguer

Casting Taiwan Clan League S2 W6 Nw vs DHC http://www.justin.tv/seguer_au

Frozenzen

Lurkers would be great for the zerg really.

Kinda miss having to pretty much coinflip whether I prepare for lurkers or mutas, and die horribly when I guess wrong!

And Inca just impressed me in game 3, that was a pretty nice comeback.

romanqwerty

Dhalphir wrote: »

i told you it was good karma

In fairness it was only against shitty 3rax and a proxy rax w/ reactor (???) but still the build felt good.

Also so many zergs just got crushed...

I figured out, that I can't just turtle up to 200/200 on 2 base and then push out TvZ, if I apply early pressure with bio/blue flame hellions i can normally just keep reinforcing into their base until I win, at-least at gold level.

Frozenzen

I'm sure this has been said already.

But Nestea vs SCfou game 5. Holy shit what a game.

peacekeeper

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220352

is this guy a good player? ;D

Raz

Frozenzen wrote: »

I'm sure this has been said already.

But Nestea vs SCfou game 5. Holy shit what a game.

I could barely sit in my chair at the end of that game, pure amazing! Cannot miss that one!

Biosys

And Starcraft 2 is mine!

Not sure what race to play, probably Zerg.

Seguer

VODs for tonight's TCL games, Nw vs DHC, are available at: http://www.justin.tv/seguer_au/b/285334941

EDIT: Oh hey awesome, Biosys you're from PA?

Praetor

Welcome to the Swarm!

and to your new pasttime for the next decade. ^_^

MMMig

Some fun games between Simon and I. BO5 which ended in a draw:

Game1 - et tu, banelings?


Game 2 - reverse FF ramp, bm


Game 3 - imba, imba, world


Game 4 - speeshul takticks


Game 5
I had to go to sleep (dodge op)

Fizban140

Anzekay wrote: »

Fizban140 wrote: »

Enigma435 wrote: »

Fizban140 wrote: »

Enigma435 wrote: »

Fizban140 wrote: »

Yeah I would prefer zerg not having lurkers, something new please. It would be strange for zerg to have a siege tank like unit.

What you mean is that it would be totally awesome to have a good defensive unit for zerg.

Queens and spine crawlers? Also creep advantage. I just don't think this game needs lurkers, spider mines, and reavers.

If you think any of those are as good at defending as a AoE unit that can't be attacked without detection I have a bridge to sell you. If zerg got a different range AoE attacking unit of some kind I'd be down for that too, but I'd love to have one of any kind.

You just said defensive unit, protoss don't really have defensive units either unless you want to count Collosi then Zerg can count Broodlords. Anyways I think it would be more interesting to add something new. I could list tons of cool things, but I will just let blizzard show us, hopefully at the end of the month.

I agree with drag too, lurkers would be kind of weak against blink stalkers and bio balls.

Oh my gosh you complain so damn much about Zerg vs Protoss it confuses me to the extreme.

No long range AoE unit for Zerg? So, you mean, we don't ever get to have anything like Colossi or Tanks?

Actually, screw it. Doesn't matter how they work, Lurkers are just so badass.

What does my complaining about PvZ have to do with anything? It is half joking, but I just hate zergling and muta harass. I don't think all 3 races need a long range AoE unit is all, and I don't see a way they can make the lurker fit into the game as is.

Dhalphir

while fiz is being a goose about it, wanting a long range aoe "just because i want one" is a bit of a silly reason

I don't look at zerg armies and think "man, they need a siege unit" and i dont think you guys really look at it and thin kthat either

Fizban140

Dhalphir wrote: »

while fiz is being a goose about it, wanting a long range aoe "just because i want one" is a bit of a silly reason

I don't look at zerg armies and think "man, they need a siege unit" and i dont think you guys really look at it and thin kthat either

..how am I being a goose about it? I stated my opinion, which has absolutely nothing to do with unit balance as I have stated before. It is just my perferences when I play the game.

I don't think a lot of people here understand my stance on this game well enough, but then again I don't really care too much. Balance and my opinions are two seperate things.

Guek

lurkers would be interesting. it'd force hydras, meaning lurker/roach would likely be the most common usage. in pvz, VR/colossi would still probably kick its butt, especially since there'd be fewer corruptors on the field. i'd be really excited to see what it did for zvt though since you'd probably have to waste a lot of scans trying to pick em off with tanks before engaging with bio at all. Drops could be defended a lot easier with 1-2 lurkers parked at each mineral line or at the very least force scans.

GoodKingJayIII

White-Ra and TLO just hit each other on the ladder. Both are streaming. DO IT.

815165

Dhalphir wrote: »

while fiz is being a goose about it, wanting a long range aoe "just because i want one" is a bit of a silly reason

I don't look at zerg armies and think "man, they need a siege unit" and i dont think you guys really look at it and thin kthat either

Zerg already has the best siege unit. NesTea taking out the reactor on the starport then the starport itself on Tal'Darim altar was so super smart and a perfect set up for his BL push.

That last game was so amazing, to win when you're in such a bad position on Crossfire.

Derrick

GoodKingJayIII wrote: »

White-Ra and TLO just hit each other on the ladder. Both are streaming. DO IT.

White-ra doesn't listen to derpstep. Time to start watching his streams again...

Sceptre

Awww yeah... Euro Rap.

Stay classy White Ra.

Edit: Holy fuck, did anyone else just see white ra do that multi pronged warp prism drop to kill those marines/tanks in the base race??

"Eez Very funny seetuation"

Metal Gear Solid 2 Demo

I'm not sure why people are clamoring for old BW units

I want new units frankly

Fizban140

Metal Gear Solid 2 Demo wrote: »

I'm not sure why people are clamoring for old BW units

I want new units frankly

Nostalgia, this is probably the game most affected by it.

Sceptre

Fizban140 wrote: »

Metal Gear Solid 2 Demo wrote: »

I'm not sure why people are clamoring for old BW units

I want new units frankly

Nostalgia, this is probably the game most affected by it.

While it can be pretty bad, nothing is as bad as Fallout and those who shall not be named.

Fizban140

Sceptre wrote: »

Fizban140 wrote: »

Metal Gear Solid 2 Demo wrote: »

I'm not sure why people are clamoring for old BW units

I want new units frankly

Nostalgia, this is probably the game most affected by it.

While it can be pretty bad, nothing is as bad as Fallout and those who shall not be named.

Fuck, I forgot about that. People...people never change

zerg rush

Dhalphir wrote: »

while fiz is being a goose about it, wanting a long range aoe "just because i want one" is a bit of a silly reason

I don't look at zerg armies and think "man, they need a siege unit" and i dont think you guys really look at it and thin kthat either

Okay, I want a long range AOE unit for zerg. Hell, I want every race to get a couple more really powerful AOE units.

Ideally, I want units that do more damage to groups of enemies than single enemies. I also want AOE units that get less effective the more you have of that unit clumped up (a-la the old siege tank). I want units that give a defender's advantage. I want units that are hideously destructive but you can micro'd to mitigate their attacks. Luckily, the lurker fulfills all the requirements but I'd be happy to take any other unit that did so as well. Spine crawlers getting a line-splash attack would be completely acceptable.

I feel that the side with more units or the better build order shouldn't automatically win the game. Sure, it should help a lot, but unit control and positioning should be the absolute most important thing. Currently, even in GSL there are a lot of build order wins and deathballs A-moving to victory. Looking at food counts before a battle is nearly all you need to know about who will win. Contrast that with BW where there would be multiple skirmishes going on in the entire map and every fight would be a toss up until the very end.

Ideally, I'd see Raven HSM getting massive buffs. Siege tanks returning to their BW selves. And lurkers (or something like it) making a return. I hope that explains my love for the lurker.

Fizban140

zerg rush wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

while fiz is being a goose about it, wanting a long range aoe "just because i want one" is a bit of a silly reason

I don't look at zerg armies and think "man, they need a siege unit" and i dont think you guys really look at it and thin kthat either

Okay, I want a long range AOE unit for zerg. Hell, I want every race to get a couple more really powerful AOE units.

Ideally, I want units that do more damage to groups of enemies than single enemies. I also want AOE units that get less effective the more you have of that unit clumped up (a-la the old siege tank). I want units that give a defender's advantage. I want units that are hideously destructive but you can micro'd to mitigate their attacks. Luckily, the lurker fulfills all the requirements but I'd be happy to take any other unit that did so as well. Spine crawlers getting a line-splash attack would be completely acceptable.

I feel that the side with more units or the better build order shouldn't automatically win the game. Sure, it should help a lot, but unit control and positioning should be the absolute most important thing. Currently, even in GSL there are a lot of build order wins and deathballs A-moving to victory. Looking at food counts before a battle is nearly all you need to know about who will win. Contrast that with BW where there would be multiple skirmishes going on in the entire map and every fight would be a toss up until the very end.

Ideally, I'd see Raven HSM getting massive buffs. Siege tanks returning to their BW selves. And lurkers (or something like it) making a return. I hope that explains my love for the lurker.

You don't want a lurker, you want a unit that rewards micro. A lurker fits that, but blizzard could come up with a lot of things that reward that. Maybe the game just hasn't been as explored but I do feel like more micro would make the game more exciting, at least meaningful micro like we saw in Thorzain vs MC.

undeinPirat

spine crawlers getting line splash would be so hilariously broken but so fun

DarkMecha

The only thing about SC2 that I really don't like is the tendency towards death-ball battles. For one, it really really seems to favor P when this happens, but just in general it's boring to watch and play. However it seems the most effective thing to do right now, so everyone does it. Sure drops force splitting abit and you see some skirmishes - it's not all doom pushes but, something seems missing right now to make it just that much better.

Fizban140

undeinPirat wrote: »

spine crawlers getting line splash would be so hilariously broken but so fun

It would lead to a hilarious amount of dead drones.

Caveman Paws

Gom player doesn't work well when your computer has been jacked by trojan alureon

Missed everything awesome at GSL last night/morning. :x

undeinPirat

paying 10 bucks for only nestea v sc is well fucking worth it

i fell asleep during game 2 last night, and my god catching up on the vods just now before tsl

HOLY SHIT

Frozenzen

Definately, an amazing series. Especially the final game, was on the edge on my seat for most of it.

kedinik

Frozenzen wrote: »

Definately, an amazing series. Especially the final game, was on the edge on my seat for most of it.

Yeah, that series was top notch and the final game was amazing.

His Corkiness

I thought this was funny. :P

[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220385]Nestea[/url] wrote:

- You will be facing a protoss in the finals.
I think Inca is a really good player. I know I complained a lot previously about ZvP matchups when I faced Anypro, but in practice my win rate against them was around 90%, so I have some confidence in the matchup. However, Inca’s style is so different that I don’t know what to expect. Since I have made it to the finals, I will try to ride my momentum and take the championship.

DarkMecha

TSL3!! Get the hype!