The DC Universe (Established 2011) + Sept. Solicits

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Pretty glaring hint that Green Lantern #1 will star Sinestro through saying, "Set aside your fear."

    That said, what would the Sinestro Corps be called without him as its leader?

    Yellow Lantern Corps

    Parallax Corps

    Qwardian Corps

    (Mongul Corps)

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    What
    One of the final signs of the apocalypse, BATGIRL will be getting a new series starring Barbara Gordon losing the wheel chair and walking around in costume. Booooooo!!!

    the
    Superman will be youth-i-fied (he certainly looks so in that Jim Lee image) and he’s also rumored to have a relationship with Wonder Woman and not Lois Lane in this new, hip, kooky, fresh DCU.

    fuck

    those are from aicn... the gordon thing is fact, superman thing rumor.

    they have confirmed a Nightwing #1 but have also shown a batman on both JLA and JLI. So maybe Tim is Nightwing now? or some other shenanigans like the french "le batman" is on JLI.

    Hearing no PG news is bad news as the poor girl was spawned from all these multiple reboots....

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  • Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It's not fact till DC reports its pretty much (granted those could easily all be true), but pretty much don't worry about it till DC's announced it.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Grrrr.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tim being Nightwing wouldn't surprise me, since Didio would and has tried to get rid of Dick Grayson.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tairu wrote: »
    Kyle leading the New Guardians seems like an odd choice

    Yeah I think Guy would have been a better fit for the New Guardians, since his antagonistic attitude towards the other Corps would have added drama, but I'm also excited to have Kyle in a leading role.

    Kyle has been in Corps for a long time now, but even then he always felt secondary to either Guy or John. Hoping that's not the case with New Guardians.

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  • NinjabearNinjabear Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Maybe Batman (Bruce) will be in the JLI and JLA, while Batman (Dick) is the Batman of Gotham. And Cassandra Cain could be Nightwing.

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  • Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rans wrote: »
    Tairu wrote: »
    Kyle leading the New Guardians seems like an odd choice

    Yeah I think Guy would have been a better fit for the New Guardians, since his antagonistic attitude towards the other Corps would have added drama, but I'm also excited to have Kyle in a leading role.

    Kyle has been in Corps for a long time now, but even then he always felt secondary to either Guy or John. Hoping that's not the case with New Guardians.

    I'm wondering if the New Guardians will all have their corps entitys and since Kyle has the most experince with Ion, he's joined them?

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Oh my goodness The New Guardians starring Kyle Rayner? Yes yes yes.

    Seriously, dude is my favorite Lantern and I like the other corps.

    I will definitely get New Guardians and Red Lantern, but I'll have to pick between GL and GLC. I love Tomasi but a Sinestro book would be pretty interesting

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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Oh my goodness The New Guardians starring Kyle Rayner? Yes yes yes.

    Seriously, dude is my favorite Lantern and I like the other corps.

    I will definitely get New Guardians and Red Lantern, but I'll have to pick between GL and GLC. I love Tomasi but a Sinestro book would be pretty interesting

    My thoughts exactly. Bout time Kyle was in a leading role again. I buy Green Lantern, but I still find Hal Jordan to be boring, I just buy it because I basically have to if I'm also getting Emerald Warriors and GLC.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I will be getting all the Green Lantern books that aren't the Red Lantern book (I'll see how that goes first, my pull list already looks big), but yeah the New Guardians with Kyle Raynor sounds like it could be really, really good. Kyle is only second to Guy and works very differently anyway, so glad he is essentially starring in this.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    New Guardians does sound fucking awesome, the first Green Lantern comics I really read were Kyle Rayner 90s stuff. I wonder if it's gonna be established Lanterns like Larfleeze and skeleton winged red lantern chick or a whole new set of characters?

    Edit: I don't think I've ever seen three people post the same sentiments simultaneously before...

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Those sound like they will make an excellent start to my digital pull list, albeit a month after publication.

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tairu wrote: »
    Kyle leading the New Guardians seems like an odd choice

    Why? He's done the Ion thing before. Hell, he's done the Parallax thing.

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rans wrote: »
    Tairu wrote: »
    Kyle leading the New Guardians seems like an odd choice

    Yeah I think Guy would have been a better fit for the New Guardians, since his antagonistic attitude towards the other Corps would have added drama, but I'm also excited to have Kyle in a leading role.

    Kyle has been in Corps for a long time now, but even then he always felt secondary to either Guy or John. Hoping that's not the case with New Guardians.

    I'm wondering if the New Guardians will all have their corps entitys and since Kyle has the most experince with Ion, he's joined them?

    That's what I was wondering too. The title of the book could certainly be talking about Kyle's group acting as guardians for the Corps-entities rather then them acting as replacements for the Guardians we usually associate with the Corps.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Those Green Lantern books are really, really good. I will keep on Johns GL, just because it still sets the direction for the entire universe, and because for the most part it has been consistently good with just a few slow spots.

    I will have to pick between GLC and New Guardians, although I'm leaning toward GLC after reading Bedard's run and Tomasi's EW run back to back recently. EW was just so much better, while GLC felt like it was running in place under Bedard.

    Either way, I'll certainly pick the other Green Lantern stuff up in trade.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited June 2011
    oh hey bleeding cool took my post about Darwyn Cooke's Vigilante project

    take this post too: bleeding cool is shit

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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So am I correct in understanding that Flashpoint is meant to be a precursor to the reboot? Does that mean we can expect some canon elements from the "old DC" to continue making their mark, or is the plot expected to somehow truly wipe everything right off the board? I understand that Crisis was a major consolidation of DC properties, but I get the impression that this reboot is somehow meant to be much more final.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    As Final as...Final Crisis?

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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I guess I should qualify that post with the fact that I don't actually have much experience with DC, but as my income grows and this reboot lingers, I grow more interested. Yeah, I'm the anomalous "new fan" that DC is apparently trying to tempt.

    Anyway, my understanding is that at some point there was some sort of crisis, and that the resolution of this crisis involved the removal of a lot of extra characters.. or universes.. or both.

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  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    There have been 3 crises (5 if you count Zero Hour and Identity Crisis but those are so bad).

    The first was Crisis On Infinite Earths back in the 80's which removed the multiverse (Earth-One, Earth-Two, etc.). It was a mega huge year long event by Marv Wolfman and George Perez. It was pretty fucking awesome, and we got some really good stuff out of it, like Batman: Year One and the Byrne Superman stuff.

    The second Crisis was Infinite Crisis in 2005 which brought back the multiverse and created the 52 Earths. It was by Geoff Johns and Phil Jiminez and it was kind of ok I guess.

    Final Crisis was in 2008 and it was just Grant Morrison writing an awesome story with awesome art from JG Jones and Doug Mahnke. There weren't any continuity reboots or anything.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Basically the best Crisis' are the first and last ones.

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  • MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah, Crisis on Infinite Earths cleaned up a lot of timeline bullshit back in the eighties involving Earth-1 and Earth-2, etc. Having multiple Supermen and Flash's and such was beginning to get confusing so they merged all of these Earths into one.

    There have been several other "Crisis's" in recent years. What they resolved I have no idea. I think DC just likes to throw the word Crisis on everything for nostalgia purposes.

    I'm hoping for some news within the next couple weeks on whether or not Flashpoint is going to lead into an actual reboot or not. I order all my books online and I'll probably skip 95% of my DC stuff if everything is getting wiped clean and starting over the following month.

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Solar wrote: »
    Basically the best Crisis' are the first and last ones.

    Totally agreeing with this.

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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Okay, so the true nature of the reboot is still subject to speculation, then?

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It's not a reboot (because that term has negative connotations, so DC is pretending it's something else)!

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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Maybe that's why I'm so confused.

    What do you call it when you release 52 #1 issues and cease production of your original stories?

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    As far as we can tell...

    Some characters are getting their history cleaned up, certain things tweaked or removed etc. Hal Jordan looks to be one of those types, the GLs are staying mostly the same but a few minor alterations are expected and possible. For these guys it's essentially a renumbering.

    Some characters are getting de-aged, like Wonder Woman, Superman and possibly Batman. I have no idea why but hey whatever floats Didio's boat. Some characters are also getting changed to a greater extent, like Cyborg (it seems). To what extent we don't know, and to who we don't know, but so far it doesn't look like many of them. This links in with the de-ageing above. For these guys it's a soft reboot.

    Other characters are getting retconned to a greater extent. Hawkman was a horrendous black hole of continuity that drove anyone who went near him insane, so it looks like they are sayign "fuck that" and completely restarting him. For these guys it's a harder reboot, though that seems to be the least common change and is happening to very few characters.

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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Okay, I think I'm understanding. Based on what is known, it's basically a major erm-- retooling of DC properties focused on losing some baggage without necessarily dropping all the cargo in the river.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This is basically One More Day or Superboy Prime's retcon punch on a grander scale.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It's not a reboot (because that term has negative connotations, so DC is pretending it's something else)!

    I eagerly await the new word or phrase DC will use to describe whatever this is.

    "displacement of certain character aspects"
    "revitalization of key time standards"

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    This is basically One More Day or Superboy Prime's retcon punch on a grander scale.
    Don't you dare compare this to OMD until we have seen it. Don't you dare.

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  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    It's not a reboot (because that term has negative connotations, so DC is pretending it's something else)!

    I eagerly await the new word or phrase DC will use to describe whatever this is.

    "displacement of certain character aspects"
    "revitalization of key time standards"

    I think "revamp" works pretty well.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    not a revamp, DCvamp

    Like how DC was calling themselves "the New DC" before the first Crisis, at least have fun with it.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    This is basically One More Day or Superboy Prime's retcon punch on a grander scale.
    Don't you dare compare this to OMD until we have seen it. Don't you dare.

    Well in concept it basically is. Erasing or tampering with various parts of continuity instead of doing an all out reboot.

    Hopefully the execution is better.

    But if they erase the Lois and Clark marriage then it pretty much will be OMD for Superman.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I really don't see why Superman and Wonder Woman are seen as a suitable match. They have nothing in common apart from prominence.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I still want to see Batman and Wonder Woman hook up. They've been hinting at that for years. They need to just do it.

    Heck, I had a really sweet idea for how they could work it into current continuity. Now that Batman is ever expanding his team with the new Batman Inc, it would be awesome for WW to take a second super-hero persona as part of the Bat-family. Put her in a dark, yet majestic costume. Something like Donna Troy's outfit, only with a cape and cowl.

    Then she and Batman could have some sweet adventures together as they work to clean up Gotham (or anywhere else).

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I've never really understood what drives people to need to see fictional characters hook up. I'm all for relationships and character development, but...if they will, they will. If not, they're still superheroes being awesome.

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  • WishpigWishpig Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I really don't see why Superman and Wonder Woman are seen as a suitable match. They have nothing in common apart from prominence.

    Man I would hate to be anywhere in their vicinity when they have sex. Fucking richter scale would hit 11.
    I guess I should qualify that post with the fact that I don't actually have much experience with DC, but as my income grows and this reboot lingers, I grow more interested. Yeah, I'm the anomalous "new fan" that DC is apparently trying to tempt.

    Anyway, my understanding is that at some point there was some sort of crisis, and that the resolution of this crisis involved the removal of a lot of extra characters.. or universes.. or both.

    Yeah, count me as one of those "new fans" they're trying to attract. I'm sure I COULD catch up to current DC events and thoroughly enjoy it all, but this makes jumping in seem so much more appealing.

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